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  • How was your Profit/Loss account last year on the F1, Morris Dancer? When I saw Kimi win the first race I was having none of it.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,469

    Charles said:

    Just back from Germany. It was a fascinating trip and a real privilege to get to talk to senior IP folk in so many world class R&D-based companies. If only we had a few more of these. But we don't and won't until the way things work here changes dramatically, inside both boardrooms and banks.

    SO, you are looking in the wrong place. The lifesciences industry is progressing at great pace - I spent my life with IP driven companies and the consistent view is that the patent box has been extremely helpful.

    The patent box works well for life sciences companies because they already know IP and invest in creating it via R&D. I am not sure it has really incentivised all those companies that don't do it to change their ways. But it is potentially a great scheme.

    We do have some great life sciences companies, I agree. So do the Germans. Where they beat us hands down is that they also have them in loads of other areas too. It was a real eye opener going into companies and seeing how they work close up.

    Then why don't you educate Miliband. Because he's got f'all idea about business or investment.

    I find your position on this odd, to say the least.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,344
    edited January 2014
    Charles said:

    Lennon said:

    Charles said:

    Carnyx said:





    One can reverse that - why does Mr Cameron desperately want to avoid debate and send his LD penal battalions instead? Obviously it's a bit of a Mexican standoff.

    And, incidentally, it was Cameron who promised a Respect agenda in the first place.

    It might be more interesting to consider that Mr C's decision is not risk-free, given that (if I recall rightly) polling on both sides of the border and both sides of the question in Scotland shows a majority desire to see such a debate. I suppose his calculation is that if there is a Yes, he's got much bigger worries than being seen not to have strained "every fibre of his being" as I recall him promising a year ago in Edinburgh (appropriately enough, just before the porridge factory photo-op). If there is a No, then he's got nothing to worry about.


    At the risk of being controverisal, Salmond and Cameron are not peers. Cameron is the PM of the UK, Salmond the FM of a region within the UK and a prospective (I presume) leader of an independent Scotland.

    While Scotland remains part of the UK, he is a peer to the leaders of the regional governments in Wales and Northern Ireland and - arguably, de facto, if not de jure - the Mayor of London. They all should be viewed as having equivalent rank to senior Cabinet Ministers.

    If he was insisting on debating Carmichael rather than Alexander he might have a point. To insist on debating Cameron is mere self-aggrandisement.
    Wonder what Salmond would do if we sent Boris?
    Tory, check
    Posh, check
    (very) English, check
    Jester, check

    wet himself?
    Well, those are at least reasonable (if slightly mischievous) suggestions. Mind you, the precedence can't work like that, or the Unionists don't take it too seriously, because Mr Carmichael was happy to debate with Ms Sturgeon (till it actually happened and she got her teeth into him, but that is another matter).

    I suppose, also, the Scots have as much right to Cameron as the English do, we all being in the UK, of which he is PM, so his refusal to speak is to say the least a bit hurt-making ...

    Johnson would certainly be interesting in debate - but his liking for Highland cows and see-you-Jimmy hats won't necessarily cut it. He is vulnerable to such things as his complaints about the negativity of the No campaign last year (except insofar as his coming up would reflect well on him), and the increasing de-Barnettization of infrastructure costs and the analogous diversion of Lottery funds to the Olympics. And his own efforts to make himself Mr London do not make himself more popular with those who feel that London IS part of the problem. I have a gut feeling he might find a Scottish audience difficult to handle, even if he could hold his own with Salmond.
  • Charles said:

    Just back from Germany. It was a fascinating trip and a real privilege to get to talk to senior IP folk in so many world class R&D-based companies. If only we had a few more of these. But we don't and won't until the way things work here changes dramatically, inside both boardrooms and banks.

    SO, you are looking in the wrong place. The lifesciences industry is progressing at great pace - I spent my life with IP driven companies and the consistent view is that the patent box has been extremely helpful.

    The patent box works well for life sciences companies because they already know IP and invest in creating it via R&D. I am not sure it has really incentivised all those companies that don't do it to change their ways. But it is potentially a great scheme.

    We do have some great life sciences companies, I agree. So do the Germans. Where they beat us hands down is that they also have them in loads of other areas too. It was a real eye opener going into companies and seeing how they work close up.

    Then why don't you educate Miliband. Because he's got f'all idea about business or investment.

    I find your position on this odd, to say the least.

    All our politicians need educating, as do our banks and businesses.

    Sorry you find my position odd.

  • Putting Sky Sports on expenses isn't so good when it's you're own expenses.

    My understanding is that Suzi Perry is trolling F1 wives.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Mr. Ronald, it was a weird year.

    On race tips I was behind. Oddly, I finished ahead in reality because the untipped bets I made (usually losers) generally won. Annoyingly, I almost always lost on Betfair and won on Ladbrokes, so the former account is rather depleted and the latter fairly healthy.
  • Keep on trucking Morris.

    Two accounts sounds dangerous - Does Ladbrokes have better odds sometimes I take it? I like to think that because my Betfair history is in profit I'm not an idiot gambler who's lost thousands and thousands over the years.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323

    "London has three or four times the GDP of Scotland"

    Really? Yet they're roughly the same population size. Clearly London is doing something right and Scotland is doing something wrong. Scots are clearly missing a trick here. If I was in charge of Scotland I'd copy whatever London is doing and triple GDP.

    On no measure do London and Scotland have roughly the same population size. Greater London has about three times Scotland's population.

    Greater London has a population of 8.2m, Scotland 5.3m. You can construe greater London bigger than Greater London, though.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Grandiose said:

    "London has three or four times the GDP of Scotland"

    Really? Yet they're roughly the same population size. Clearly London is doing something right and Scotland is doing something wrong. Scots are clearly missing a trick here. If I was in charge of Scotland I'd copy whatever London is doing and triple GDP.

    On no measure do London and Scotland have roughly the same population size. Greater London has about three times Scotland's population.

    Greater London has a population of 8.2m, Scotland 5.3m. You can construe greater London bigger than Greater London, though.
    The West Midlands region has about a quarter of million more people than Scotland, although they both have the same number of Westminster constituencies, 59.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    Thanks for responses re south Korea. I had no idea there was a significant Christian community. Drink, can't be worse than Poland, can it? Just have to make sure I'm not screwed, I often manage that. A friendly race with a rampant dislike of close neighbours.

    If I go down this route I will either ask more questions, or report progress.

  • I live in Stockton South. My Tory MP has a 332 majority and understands what really concerns local voters. 1. Sri Lanka - Tory HQ had to ban him from going on yet another junket on the shilling of the Columbo junta. 2. Europe - he voted with government pro-Europe positions until he won the draft and was given the anti-UKIP Bill to push through. 3. Xenophobia. He's campaigning against pokey campsites and for the south of the seat to assert it's Yorkshire identity in conflict to Stockton which is Durham.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737



    I would have thought you'd have left off, given the way you've just embarrassed yourself.

    Stick to electoral reform and PR^2, rather than insulting women.

    I don't insult women. I insult Fools, malicious obsessives and moral cowards. And if they happen to be women, so be it.
    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    edited January 2014

    I live in Stockton South. My Tory MP has a 332 majority and understands what really concerns local voters. 1. Sri Lanka - Tory HQ had to ban him from going on yet another junket on the shilling of the Columbo junta. 2. Europe - he voted with government pro-Europe positions until he won the draft and was given the anti-UKIP Bill to push through. 3. Xenophobia. He's campaigning against pokey campsites and for the south of the seat to assert it's Yorkshire identity in conflict to Stockton which is Durham.

    What a ridiculous post, as a cursory glance at the excellent James Wharton's website shows. This is what he's actually been doing:

    http://www.jameswharton.co.uk/intouch/
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Mr. Ronald, I've had them both since 2009, when I first started offering regular tips. My original plan was to open several more, but I've never really seen the need. Ladbrokes sometimes offer better odds, and often have some good markets Betfair lacks.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited January 2014

    I live in Stockton South. My Tory MP has a 332 majority and understands what really concerns local voters. 1. Sri Lanka - Tory HQ had to ban him from going on yet another junket on the shilling of the Columbo junta. 2. Europe - he voted with government pro-Europe positions until he won the draft and was given the anti-UKIP Bill to push through. 3. Xenophobia. He's campaigning against pokey campsites and for the south of the seat to assert it's Yorkshire identity in conflict to Stockton which is Durham.

    What a ridiculous post, as a cursory glance at the excellent James Wharton's website shows. This is what he's actually been doing:

    http://www.jameswharton.co.uk/intouch/
    RochalePioneer's post is not only ridiculous, it is illiterate.

    A campaign against a pokey campsite would evidence claustrophobia not xenophobia.

    As any fule kno.

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    RodCrosby said:


    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.

    Well, besides claiming you'd read the report that hadnt even been given to Rennard.
  • @Avery - I'd assumed that was his Yorkshire accent, and thought it best to gloss over it..
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited January 2014
    Neil said:

    RodCrosby said:


    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.

    Well, besides claiming you'd read the report that hadnt even been given to Rennard.
    You know I meant the statement. How could I possibly have read the Report?

    I'd rather you lie about me, than just belch nonsense!
  • Grandiose said:

    "London has three or four times the GDP of Scotland"

    Really? Yet they're roughly the same population size. Clearly London is doing something right and Scotland is doing something wrong. Scots are clearly missing a trick here. If I was in charge of Scotland I'd copy whatever London is doing and triple GDP.

    On no measure do London and Scotland have roughly the same population size. Greater London has about three times Scotland's population.

    Greater London has a population of 8.2m, Scotland 5.3m. You can construe greater London bigger than Greater London, though.
    Thanks. I'm meant the London metropolitan area, which has a population of slightly over 15m.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    In 1992 the Tories increased their majority in Stockton South from 774 to 3,369 against the national trend.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    edited January 2014

    I live in Stockton South. My Tory MP has a 332 majority and understands what really concerns local voters. 1. Sri Lanka - Tory HQ had to ban him from going on yet another junket on the shilling of the Columbo junta. 2. Europe - he voted with government pro-Europe positions until he won the draft and was given the anti-UKIP Bill to push through. 3. Xenophobia. He's campaigning against pokey campsites and for the south of the seat to assert it's Yorkshire identity in conflict to Stockton which is Durham.

    What a ridiculous post, as a cursory glance at the excellent James Wharton's website shows. This is what he's actually been doing:

    http://www.jameswharton.co.uk/intouch/
    That must be the lamest defence of an MP I have ever seen, a link to the MP's website.
    Don't tell me, it says he is doing a fantastic job.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    AndyJS said:

    In 1992 the Tories increased their majority in Stockton South from 774 to 3,369 against the national trend.

    True but in 1987 2nd place had been held by the SDP ex MP Ian Wrigglesworth who did not stand in 1992 , Labour moving back into 2nd place .
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    For starters in the embarrassment stakes, hands up all the ignoramuses who thought the word 'credible' is a synonym for 'true' or for 'proven' '....
  • RodCrosby said:



    I would have thought you'd have left off, given the way you've just embarrassed yourself.

    Stick to electoral reform and PR^2, rather than insulting women.

    I don't insult women. I insult Fools, malicious obsessives and moral cowards. And if they happen to be women, so be it.
    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.
    What this forum needs is a contest for Most Arrogant Post of the Year. I nominate this for January's contender...

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    RodCrosby said:



    I would have thought you'd have left off, given the way you've just embarrassed yourself.

    Stick to electoral reform and PR^2, rather than insulting women.

    I don't insult women. I insult Fools, malicious obsessives and moral cowards. And if they happen to be women, so be it.
    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.
    What this forum needs is a contest for Most Arrogant Post of the Year. I nominate this for January's contender...

    Certainly the most incredible post of the month.

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    RodCrosby said:



    I would have thought you'd have left off, given the way you've just embarrassed yourself.

    Stick to electoral reform and PR^2, rather than insulting women.

    I don't insult women. I insult Fools, malicious obsessives and moral cowards. And if they happen to be women, so be it.
    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.
    What this forum needs is a contest for Most Arrogant Post of the Year. I nominate this for January's contender...

    OK, I blame it on the football on the side of my face where a tooth used to be.
    I'm going out for dinner now. Wish me luck...
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Have we established yet who these 'sh!t stirring harpies' are?
  • And not a member on his website if his excellent work in Sri Lanka or lobbying for public cash from a body he campaigned to axe for his friend's cock statue business. Or his response to the swathes of job losses in his seat. When you have a massive majority like 332 you can afford to spend so much energy on issue of local import like referenda and sub-continental juntas.

    Entertainingly having just been banned by his own party from going on yet another trip to Ceylon he complained that his newly chosen Labour opponent wasn't spending enough time on local issues. But as it's not on his website it didn't happen or something
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    RodCrosby said:



    I would have thought you'd have left off, given the way you've just embarrassed yourself.

    Stick to electoral reform and PR^2, rather than insulting women.

    I don't insult women. I insult Fools, malicious obsessives and moral cowards. And if they happen to be women, so be it.
    And I think the next few turns of events will demonstrate I am about the only one here with nothing to be embarrassed about.
    What this forum needs is a contest for Most Arrogant Post of the Year. I nominate this for January's contender...

    What made you decide to come back here and troll in such an obvious way>????.
  • Grrr bloody spellchecker on my phone! Not a MENTION on his website. Not member. The member was of course his friend's giant cock statues that he wanted One North East to fund before as he had campaigned successfully for they were wound up as a waste of money....
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited January 2014
    Mrs Lamont continued to press him how the money was spent and a stay for him and his wife in the luxury Peninsula Hotel, which is popular with stars such as Brad Pitt and Justin Bieber and charges more than £1,200 per night for a suite.

    Perhaps Eck will be adopting Justin Bieber's most recent form of accommodation.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @MonikerDiCanio

    'The madness of Alex Salmond;'

    The greed & arrogance is staggering.
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Rod, just to say I've very much enjoyed your recent posts re the Rennard affair.

    BTW, I have toothache as well, so my sympathy!
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Blueberry said:

    Rod, just to say I've very much enjoyed your recent posts re the Rennard affair.

    BTW, I have toothache as well, so my sympathy!

    Sir Roderick's toothache is self-inflicted.

    He is in Bratislava to have his molars replaced by incisors extracted from local wolves.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    Not sure we should be so quick to critisice Rod here. He was right over the Mitchell affair.

    Time will tell...
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Pulpstar said:

    Not sure we should be so quick to critisice Rod here. He was right over the Mitchell affair.

    Time will tell...

    Sir Roderick is often right, invariably for the wrong reasons.

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Blueberry said:

    Rod, just to say I've very much enjoyed your recent posts re the Rennard affair.

    BTW, I have toothache as well, so my sympathy!

    Thanks. I'm actually enjoying my meal in a 200 year old restaurant. Incredibly good and impossibly cheap. It's almost a pleasure to have my teeth out here....
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,624
    Drinking wine, eating nice food, and posting on pb. Does an evening get any better than that?
  • New thread
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    That would be real dynamite. We know that some LD women were immune to Rennards charm, but were some others involved.

    RodCrosby said:

    sh!t stirring harpies

    That's what they were was it?

    Charming....

    Mind you, there aren't that many female Lib Dem MPs to keep quiet in the first place.....

    I wonder why? :Innocent Face:

    Do you think any of them owe their position to Lord Rennard?

  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited January 2014
    AveryLP said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Not sure we should be so quick to critisice Rod here. He was right over the Mitchell affair.

    Time will tell...

    Sir Roderick is often right, invariably for the wrong reasons.

    Whereas your out of touch spin is invariably wrong, and completely immune to reason as we saw when you and stuarttruth were cheerleading Romney to such hilarious effect.

    Your prediction of a kipper wipeout at the EU elections is going to be yet another of your finest comedy spinning moments, Seth O Logue.
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    john_zims said:

    @MonikerDiCanio

    'The madness of Alex Salmond;'

    The greed & arrogance is staggering.

    ROFL

    PB tories fall over themselves to believe the same old labour spin on a story that nobody took seriously months ago and aren't about to just because Lamont and the torygraph are shrieking about it yet again.

    The PB tory gullibility and ignorance is staggering.


  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Scott_P said:

    Re the latest SNat whinge; why are they complaining about Hague proffering his opinion?

    It's part of their RESPECT agenda...

    He's English, so any abuse is fair comment
    Unspoofable.

    The scottish tory surgers really are the most comical and ignorant posters on PB.
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