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Sorry Iain you’ve got this wrong – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 8,489
edited November 9 in General
Sorry Iain you’ve got this wrong – politicalbetting.com

The BBC TV 6pm news led on Matt Hancock???? I get that it's amusing, a glorified diary story or second order story about the curious antics of an MP. But it isn't anything like the most important thing that happened in Britain today, and then there's Ukraine and so on.

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  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    what else has happened?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 42,989
    Ishmael_Z said:

    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    what else has happened?
    The death of Takeoff!
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    High profile former minister pisses off to undertake a vanity project while drawing his MPs salary? I think that makes it.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Ishmael_Z said:

    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    what else has happened?
    The death of Takeoff!
    @Alistair has served a D notice on discussion of comtemporary "music."
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 4,123
    edited November 1
    If he was the Health Secretary right now, yes I’d agree, big deal worthy of top story.

    As a backbencher, it deserves to be covered in the news (partly so that his constituents can make their own minds up about whether they want him eating kangaroo penis whilst he’s supposed to be doing his day job), but top story does seem excessive IMHO.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    Bolsonaro says he will follow the constitution but does not concede. Lets it all fester some more.
  • Matt Hancock doesn't rewrite the first line of his obituary but does add another subclause.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 24,465
    edited November 1

    Bolsonaro says he will follow the constitution but does not concede. Lets it all fester some more.

    If he follows the constitution he doesn't have to concede.
    The constitution says he lost. So, by inference he accepts he has.
    If he follows the constitution he'll vacate office on Jan 1st.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    edited November 1
    dixiedean said:

    Bolsonaro says he will follow the constitution but does not concede. Lets it all fester some more.

    If he follows the constitution he doesn't have to concede.
    The constitution says he lost. So, by inference he accepts he has.
    If he follows the constitution he'll vacate office on Jan 1st.
    Well, quite
    Im not sure hes calmed the waters though, and thats probably exactly as planned
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 8,473

    Matt Hancock doesn't rewrite the first line of his obituary but does add another subclause.

    I imagine such considerations are secondary when he's offered any wage.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 19,616
    Hancock is due his 30mins.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 8,473
    Jonathan said:

    Hancock is due his 30mins.

    And the working man?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 17,467
    The Yougov poll refers to 'Con Voters' and 'Lab Voters'.

    Does that refer to those who are saying they'll vote Labour/Conservative or those who voted that way at the last election?


  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    edited November 1
    Ishmael_Z said:

    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    what else has happened?
    Well there is a war in Ukraine, a fire bombing that is not really being talked about for two. I find the fire bombing story odd. Why is there not much coming out about it?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    Weirdly enough Opik of earlier discussion has been out to bat for Kissy Hancock saying we should leave him alone, hes paid his dues and is ENTITLED to go on Sleb.
    Gormless twonks
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    What's "news" isn't what's important.

    It's what sells hits, viewings and sales.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Ishmael_Z said:

    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    what else has happened?
    Well there is a war in Ukraine.
    Going on so long it is modern history rather than news now.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    Jonathan said:

    Hancock is due his 30mins.

    Haaa-Hancock's half-hour.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 6,786
    Jonathan said:

    Hancock is due his 30mins.

    Coincidentally the Lad himself was on R4 at 6:30pm.

  • FPT:

    Israel

    https://13tv.co.il/live/

    https://votes25.bechirot.gov.il/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Israeli_legislative_election

    Unlike Denmark which will probably finish counting in 3-4 hours after poll closing, Israel counts slowly and we aren't likely to get any results for a while.

    UPDATE: exit polls giving Right bloc 61-62/120 seats so looking like a return for Bibi.

    Thanks,

    DC
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 20,066

    What's "news" isn't what's important.

    It's what sells hits, viewings and sales.

    The BBC used to be different.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 8,473
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    tlg86 said:

    First.

    Was Hancock really the lead story on the Six O'Clock News? That is ridiculous.

    what else has happened?
    Well there is a war in Ukraine.
    Going on so long it is modern history rather than news now.
    I imagine many can recall the time we cared if Russians lived or died.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 17,467
    I'd say it's a very important story and should open a can of worms. They might even enquire what Boris Johnson was doing giving a talk to a bunch of US insurance brokers for $150,000 before returning to his beach hideaway while parliament was sitting and he was being paid to attend.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 105,256
    edited November 1
    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the tasks will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!
  • Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 6,786
    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the task will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    Hancock's 15 minutes of fame then. How's he gonna use the other fifteen?

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the task will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    .

    😳
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    Literally worse than Hancock, anyway.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    edited November 1

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 6,786
    Anyone watching Only Connect atm? Victoria Coren going on a bit about our own Tissue Price.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571

    I notice yougov have 42%/37% support Rwanda policy

    I think that may come as a surprise to some and not sure but Braverman may have hit a cord with her much criticised 'invasion'

    It is certainly divisive and not easily resolved

    Although strongly oppose is just ahead of strongly support - and both are in the mid-20s.

    It doesn't alter the fact that the policy is not as unpopular with the public as many would have you believe, and of course it is legal challenges that are preventing its implementation
    Do people actually understanding the policy? Or just like the concept?

    Not sure that "we've spent £120m, its almost certainly illegal under English law on multiple fronts, and even if we get past that Rwanda won't actually accept any asylum seekers" will be as popular as you say.
    It is not me saying it - it is a YouGov poll

    As far as the law is concerned that is yet to be resolved but 42% support indicates that it is not as unpopular as some would hope
    🙂

    From the start, the problems and dangers the Rwanda policy offered the Tory party was never how popular the policy was with the public, the problem was how unpopular it would be with the public when it didn’t work, and collapsed into a costly fiasco.

    Sam Tarry was sacked by Starmer for making up Labour policy on the hoof, so as Sievella is still in post we have to believe she spoke for Rishi’s Sunak’s whole government when talking about “The Invasion” yesterday, and Rwanda is currently the most well known untried response to that Invasion. But they’ve kept Rwanda policy away from the HoC, except for one debate and non vote, as it was clear from the debate a strong majority of Tory backbenchers would not vote for it, simply because they didn’t get assurances it would work or how much the gamble of it working would cost.

    In fact Patel told the house she could share neither costs nor time frames for the policy working, because revealing that would play into the hands of the traffickers.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    Yeah hammer the fuckers with a proper death tax, no weaselling out by putting shit in trust and living 7 years, no million notes exemption for the family home. Crucify the really big estates - Grosvenor, etc - and teach the essentially poor people who live in squillion pound inflated houses that they are essentially poor, and serve them right.

    Numerous studies have shown the optimality of pursuing this strategy while reducing the tax burden on the merely well off.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,145
    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the tasks will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    Weall, you were happy to support a Johnson regime which had Ms Dorries as a key element.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 6,932
    Hancock has been suspended from the Parliamentary Party but it's meaningless as we all know the whip will just get restored in a few weeks time.

    Sunak would earn a lot of credit if he made the suspension permanent - so Hancock can't stand as Con candidate at the next GE.

    No doubt people would say that is too harsh - but never mind - Sunak could say he is doing things differently and this behaviour is not acceptable. And it would cut through with the public as IAC is very high profile.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571
    edited November 1

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    MikeL said:

    Hancock has been suspended from the Parliamentary Party but it's meaningless as we all know the whip will just get restored in a few weeks time.

    Sunak would earn a lot of credit if he made the suspension permanent - so Hancock can't stand as Con candidate at the next GE.

    No doubt people would say that is too harsh - but never mind - Sunak could say he is doing things differently and this behaviour is not acceptable. And it would cut through with the public as IAC is very high profile.

    Reading his Constituency Assoc response im not sure he will get reselected anyway even if he were to be reinstated. They are not happy
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the tasks will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    You’re full of surprises, you know that?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482

    What's "news" isn't what's important.

    It's what sells hits, viewings and sales.

    The hope is the important stuff can be trogan horses in around the stuff that sells. The old 'the public interest is not what the public is interested in' conundrum.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
    Ok if im not allowed to tax lady nonsense then lets look at this thingamy.....
    It looks OK frankly as a tax raising idea, but my biggest concern is renters make no financial contribution whatsoever to their local services.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    DavidL said:

    FPT:

    Israel

    https://13tv.co.il/live/

    https://votes25.bechirot.gov.il/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Israeli_legislative_election

    Unlike Denmark which will probably finish counting in 3-4 hours after poll closing, Israel counts slowly and we aren't likely to get any results for a while.

    UPDATE: exit polls giving Right bloc 61-62/120 seats so looking like a return for Bibi.

    Thanks,

    DC

    Deeply depressing news. The world does not need Bibi back in charge of Israel.
    Their recent glut of elections seems to be a case study in stable instability.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    edited November 1

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    If it speeds up his transition to a post-MP career, all the better.

    Why can't he just quit and seek to influence things from the sidelines like Farage? He's probably be better at it, now Brexit has already occurred.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 5,778

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
    Ok if im not allowed to tax lady nonsense then lets look at this thingamy.....
    It looks OK frankly as a tax raising idea, but my biggest concern is renters make no financial contribution whatsoever to their local services.
    I don't understand that. Landlords will just add the property tax onto the rent.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 23,770

    Why has Hancock been suspended when everybody knows that Boris is on some kind of permanent junket?

    And Penny Mordaunt didn't lose the whip for doing some belly flops.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
    Ok if im not allowed to tax lady nonsense then lets look at this thingamy.....
    It looks OK frankly as a tax raising idea, but my biggest concern is renters make no financial contribution whatsoever to their local services.
    I don't understand that. Landlords will just add the property tax onto the rent.
    But what about social housing and part owned etc? I dunno, maybe its ok. My brain is swiss cheese tonight
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    tlg86 said:

    Why has Hancock been suspended when everybody knows that Boris is on some kind of permanent junket?

    And Penny Mordaunt didn't lose the whip for doing some belly flops.
    I think the main difference there was time commitment and location.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571
    Ishmael_Z said:

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    Yeah hammer the fuckers with a proper death tax, no weaselling out by putting shit in trust and living 7 years, no million notes exemption for the family home. Crucify the really big estates - Grosvenor, etc - and teach the essentially poor people who live in squillion pound inflated houses that they are essentially poor, and serve them right.

    Numerous studies have shown the optimality of pursuing this strategy while reducing the tax burden on the merely well off.
    Thank you Z for running that one up the flag pole, we’ll see who salutes.

    If Sunak does “PROPER DEATH TAX” like he done proper windfall tax, the government will end up paying the dead.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    tlg86 said:

    Why has Hancock been suspended when everybody knows that Boris is on some kind of permanent junket?

    And Penny Mordaunt didn't lose the whip for doing some belly flops.
    We’re the belly flops stopping her from working?

    Besides, Sunak has just assumed office and is laying down the law.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 20,066
    edited November 1
    Latest Danish prediction seems to be Red 80, Blue 79, Moderates 16. Red bloc is down 5 from the exit poll.

    https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/folketingsvalg/live-foelg-folketingsvalget-2022
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 5,778

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    Surely that's no different to Rishi Sunak swanning about pretending to be Prime Minister while he's supposed to be MP for Richmond Yorks
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    News involves the presentation of new information. This is new information, in that it happened today, I’m not sure where the ire of the BBC comes from.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
    The idea of taxing wealth, rather than increasing taxes on income, has been discussed many times on here and I believe, widely supported.

    A property tax is a proxy for a wealth tax. In many ways it's easier and fairer to tax property than other forms of wealth, since property cannot be squirrelled away offshore and UK property owned by non-doms would also be taxable.

    Disadvantages are: property is illiquid so it may not be easy for property rich, income poor individuals to find the tax. The other issue is agreeing an accurate valuation.

    Both of these issues are easily solvable, e.g.: Allow the owner to 'pay' the tax by placing a charge on the property to be settled when the property is sold or on death. For valuations, default the value to the last sale price uprated by the relevant property or land price index, allowing the owner to request (and pay for) an official valuation.

    I'm in favour, even though it will cost me.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    DougSeal said:

    News involves the presentation of new information. This is new information, in that it happened today, I’m not sure where the ire of the BBC comes from.

    There's lots of new information to choose from.

    I'm not full of ire, I'm just surprised this particular new information is felt to be of such interest. I mean, a former minister suspended, but not even for a scandalous or criminal reason?
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Drinking South African shiraz with Migos' long playing record "Young Rich N---s" on the radiogram. Rather good.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 5,778
    DougSeal said:

    News involves the presentation of new information. This is new information, in that it happened today, I’m not sure where the ire of the BBC comes from.

    Well they went on about the Queen being dead ad nauseum for several days despite there being no news.

    And sticking to "what's new" however trivial it is tends to downplay other serious stuff that's developing more slowly, such as a genocidal war in Europe.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    On Hancock: HMG have made this front page news by (rightly imo) withdrawing the whip.

    Question is are they going to withdraw the whip from other truants, including you know who?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 28,250
    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482

    On Hancock: HMG have made this front page news by (rightly imo) withdrawing the whip.

    Question is are they going to withdraw the whip from other truants, including you know who?

    I think they do it when it would affect the dignity of the House (no laughs please).

    Filling your pockets is what people expect of a few, so long as they are theoretically on hand to deal with MP stuff if needed.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 35,663
    edited November 1

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    Is there any reason to suppose that Johnson knows anything at all about blockchain or crypto?

    He used to specialise in a gormless gaze when dressing up for photo-stunts in anything science or tech.

    Or perhaps he could get something ghostwritten by his old friend Arcuri.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,145
    edited November 1
    kle4 said:

    DougSeal said:

    News involves the presentation of new information. This is new information, in that it happened today, I’m not sure where the ire of the BBC comes from.

    There's lots of new information to choose from.

    I'm not full of ire, I'm just surprised this particular new information is felt to be of such interest. I mean, a former minister suspended, but not even for a scandalous or criminal reason?
    It's the principle. Suspend him for eating a wombat's bollocks in work time, and have all the party say hooray, then you can go after the real offenders.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    Sounds like good news. And good that Ed M is sensible enough to attack the situation, rather than the existance of worst case plans.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 28,250

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    posted 10 days ago...

    https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1583861207815319552
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    edited November 1
    Foxy said:

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    Is there any reason to suppose that Johnson knows anything at all about blockchain or crypto?

    He used to specialise in a gormless gaze when dressing up for photo-stunts in anything science or tech.

    Or perhaps he could get something ghostwriter by his old friend Arcuri.
    Crytpo bros not investing their money wisely on speakers?
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 5,778

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
    Ok if im not allowed to tax lady nonsense then lets look at this thingamy.....
    It looks OK frankly as a tax raising idea, but my biggest concern is renters make no financial contribution whatsoever to their local services.
    I don't understand that. Landlords will just add the property tax onto the rent.
    But what about social housing and part owned etc? I dunno, maybe its ok. My brain is swiss cheese tonight
    I don't see how you could do anything other than levy it on all property owners. I'd be OK as it would work out at about the same as my council tax.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571

    tlg86 said:

    Why has Hancock been suspended when everybody knows that Boris is on some kind of permanent junket?

    And Penny Mordaunt didn't lose the whip for doing some belly flops.
    We’re the belly flops stopping her from working?

    Besides, Sunak has just assumed office and is laying down the law.

    . .
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 35,663
    edited November 1
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Drinking South African shiraz with Migos' long playing record "Young Rich N---s" on the radiogram. Rather good.

    The music or the wine? Or the apposite conjunction of South African post-apartheid life?

  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    DougSeal said:

    News involves the presentation of new information. This is new information, in that it happened today, I’m not sure where the ire of the BBC comes from.

    Well they went on about the Queen being dead ad nauseum for several days despite there being no news.

    And sticking to "what's new" however trivial it is tends to downplay other serious stuff that's developing more slowly, such as a genocidal war in Europe.
    It was different every day, it was splendid telly, it had some real quirks: the couple off the telly queue jumping, Becks not, that bizarre wideboy Harold and Maude hearse traversing Scotland (gonna write a widely acclaimed three act play set in the funeral directors' office), Haz n Megs, her pony at Windsor. Fun for all the family.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 17,402
    geoffw said:

    Anyone watching Only Connect atm? Victoria Coren going on a bit about our own Tissue Price.

    Just seen it on iplayer. I knew @Tissue_Price had won Only Connect but not about his Deal Or No Deal success. PPE at Oxford like Matt Hancock so must be a shoe-in for Prime Minister one day, or the jungle. Is he still a government bag carrier or did he get lost during the Boris/LizT/Rishi transitions?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    So far at least, Bolsonaro demonstrating more integrity than Trump.

    Brazil's far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, has broken the silence he had maintained since being defeated in Sunday's presidential election.

    He thanked voters who had cast their ballots for him but did not acknowledge defeat.

    But he did not contest the result either, as some had feared he would


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-63451860
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571

    On Hancock: HMG have made this front page news by (rightly imo) withdrawing the whip.

    Question is are they going to withdraw the whip from other truants, including you know who?

    You mean a head on a spike, so the others stop taking the piss? Good luck.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 5,778
    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    I don't see why we're not all being encouraged to save power.

    I have managed to keep my heating off into November, although I have noticed that, although it is still 19 degrees indoors, with the wetter and cooler weather outside it actually feels colder indoors than it did.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Foxy said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Drinking South African shiraz with Migos' long playing record "Young Rich N---s" on the radiogram. Rather good.

    The music or the wine? Or the apposite conjunction of South African post-apartheid life?

    Both. And, yes, good spot of that juxtaposition.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    tlg86 said:

    Why has Hancock been suspended when everybody knows that Boris is on some kind of permanent junket?

    And Penny Mordaunt didn't lose the whip for doing some belly flops.
    We’re the belly flops stopping her from working?

    Besides, Sunak has just assumed office and is laying down the law.

    . .
    "They said you were hung."

    "They were right."
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482

    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    I don't see why we're not all being encouraged to save power.

    I have managed to keep my heating off into November, although I have noticed that, although it is still 19 degrees indoors, with the wetter and cooler weather outside it actually feels colder indoors than it did.
    Encouraging people to take personal action is nanny statism or some such rubbish.

    I'd say an acknowledgement the state cannot fix everything and people need to take their own steps would be a good thing.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 105,256
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the tasks will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    Weall, you were happy to support a Johnson regime which had Ms Dorries as a key element.
    Dorries was also suspended for doing I'm a Celeb but Johnson liked her, Sunak clearly does not like Hancock as his blanking him showed. Hence he will not bring him back post suspension
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 17,402
    Scott_xP said:

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    posted 10 days ago...

    https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1583861207815319552
    That's a better suit than he used to wear as Prime Minister. Not that "Boris" was just an act, or anything.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 105,256

    FPT:

    Israel

    https://13tv.co.il/live/

    https://votes25.bechirot.gov.il/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Israeli_legislative_election

    Unlike Denmark which will probably finish counting in 3-4 hours after poll closing, Israel counts slowly and we aren't likely to get any results for a while.

    UPDATE: exit polls giving Right bloc 61-62/120 seats so looking like a return for Bibi.

    Thanks,

    DC

    1 more victory for the right then, along with Italy and Sweden. Even if most recent elections are still going left, including Brazil and it seems Denmark
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571

    HYUFD said:

    @YouGov
    ·
    45m
    How should the government deficit be closed?

    All through tax rises: 14%
    Mostly tax rises: 19%
    Equally tax rises and spending cuts: 25%
    Mostly spending cuts: 9%
    All spending cuts: 8%

    As long as it is not my tax rise is the true response
    Fleece the buggers just over the economic horizon there
    So, how exactly will Sunak and Starmer governments unlock the money in property to line the government coffers? Is there a tax they can use to get away with that?
    50% tax on womens accessories would get us out of the hole the money they waste on that old shit
    Edit - even better, a loitering about browsing then prosecco lunchies tax.
    Man i think Ive solved it!
    “Man i think Ive solved it!‘

    As only a Man could.

    Being serious for a second, what are property taxes, and why haven’t they been tried in this situation. Yet.

    Lord Willetts to me, David Willetts to you, is proposing a proportional property tax.

    How do PBers feel about paying the good lords proportional property tax?

    https://fairershare.org.uk/property-tax-would-bridge-the-wealth-gap-between-ages-lord-willetts/
    The idea of taxing wealth, rather than increasing taxes on income, has been discussed many times on here and I believe, widely supported.

    A property tax is a proxy for a wealth tax. In many ways it's easier and fairer to tax property than other forms of wealth, since property cannot be squirrelled away offshore and UK property owned by non-doms would also be taxable.

    Disadvantages are: property is illiquid so it may not be easy for property rich, income poor individuals to find the tax. The other issue is agreeing an accurate valuation.

    Both of these issues are easily solvable, e.g.: Allow the owner to 'pay' the tax by placing a charge on the property to be settled when the property is sold or on death. For valuations, default the value to the last sale price uprated by the relevant property or land price index, allowing the owner to request (and pay for) an official valuation.

    I'm in favour, even though it will cost me.
    Thanks for the input.

    So why the difference between PB widely supporting property tax, but government not acting on our recommendation?

    How do you see the chances of this months budget including property tax’s?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 17,402
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the tasks will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    Weall, you were happy to support a Johnson regime which had Ms Dorries as a key element.
    Dorries was also suspended for doing I'm a Celeb but Johnson liked her, Sunak clearly does not like Hancock as his blanking him showed. Hence he will not bring him back post suspension
    If Starmer does not ask about Rishi's inconsistency...
  • glwglw Posts: 8,790

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    That should be good. It would be like asking a goldfish to talk about impressionism.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 5,778
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    I don't see why we're not all being encouraged to save power.

    I have managed to keep my heating off into November, although I have noticed that, although it is still 19 degrees indoors, with the wetter and cooler weather outside it actually feels colder indoors than it did.
    Encouraging people to take personal action is nanny statism or some such rubbish.

    I'd say an acknowledgement the state cannot fix everything and people need to take their own steps would be a good thing.
    It's not really nanny-statism if they are wargaming power outages. The less we use, the less likely they are to happen.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 28,250
    Boris Johnson held an event for 60 of his supporters tonight in his new office in Westminster

    He told MPs he will support Sunak and the new govt

    BUT he also said he will seek to ‘protect his legacy’ on Ukraine, Brexit, levelling up & the 2019 manifesto

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1587550739680854017
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    HYUFD said:

    FPT:

    Israel

    https://13tv.co.il/live/

    https://votes25.bechirot.gov.il/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Israeli_legislative_election

    Unlike Denmark which will probably finish counting in 3-4 hours after poll closing, Israel counts slowly and we aren't likely to get any results for a while.

    UPDATE: exit polls giving Right bloc 61-62/120 seats so looking like a return for Bibi.

    Thanks,

    DC

    1 more victory for the right then, along with Italy and Sweden. Even if most recent elections are still going left, including Brazil and it seems Denmark
    Depends on the 'right'. In a binary choice election the 'left' option might even be closer to the 'right' than the latter is to the 'far-right'.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482

    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    I don't see why we're not all being encouraged to save power.

    I have managed to keep my heating off into November, although I have noticed that, although it is still 19 degrees indoors, with the wetter and cooler weather outside it actually feels colder indoors than it did.
    Encouraging people to take personal action is nanny statism or some such rubbish.

    I'd say an acknowledgement the state cannot fix everything and people need to take their own steps would be a good thing.
    It's not really nanny-statism if they are wargaming power outages. The less we use, the less likely they are to happen.
    I was attempting to imagine the reasoning of a government refusing to make such an encouragement, hence the lack of rationality.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    edited November 1

    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    I don't see why we're not all being encouraged to save power.

    I have managed to keep my heating off into November, although I have noticed that, although it is still 19 degrees indoors, with the wetter and cooler weather outside it actually feels colder indoors than it did.
    I think the idea is intelligent people, when faced with increased bills, will be be prudent without the nanny state laying it on thick. This, at least, is a conservative vs labour issue. I think if labour were in power the save energy campaigns would be prominent.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,482
    Scott_xP said:

    Boris Johnson held an event for 60 of his supporters tonight in his new office in Westminster

    He told MPs he will support Sunak and the new govt

    BUT he also said he will seek to ‘protect his legacy’ on Ukraine, Brexit, levelling up & the 2019 manifesto

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1587550739680854017

    So he does not plan to support SunaK or the new government then, thanks for the clarity Boris.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,145
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Hancock will want to cash in on his fame while he still has it, as he has made clear he has zero chance of returning to government now anyway. Sunak effectively blanked him when he greeted supporters.

    Included in the tasks will be eating various parts of animal anatomy, one could say he has had plenty of practice on that already in the office of the Health Secretary during the lockdown with Gina but we won't go too much into that given this is a serious political site!

    Weall, you were happy to support a Johnson regime which had Ms Dorries as a key element.
    Dorries was also suspended for doing I'm a Celeb but Johnson liked her, Sunak clearly does not like Hancock as his blanking him showed. Hence he will not bring him back post suspension
    TBF I can't remember either if she was doing it while Parliament was in session? She did go off without clearing it with the Party, though.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 4,426
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    EXCL: Government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in event of national power outage. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow

    The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

    I don't see why we're not all being encouraged to save power.

    I have managed to keep my heating off into November, although I have noticed that, although it is still 19 degrees indoors, with the wetter and cooler weather outside it actually feels colder indoors than it did.
    Encouraging people to take personal action is nanny statism or some such rubbish.

    I'd say an acknowledgement the state cannot fix everything and people need to take their own steps would be a good thing.
    Sensible advice is often conveniently swept aside as "nanny statism" if it means doing something you would rather not do.

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 17,712
    Man-cock, meet kangaroo-gonad.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,485

    FPT:

    Israel

    https://13tv.co.il/live/

    https://votes25.bechirot.gov.il/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Israeli_legislative_election

    Unlike Denmark which will probably finish counting in 3-4 hours after poll closing, Israel counts slowly and we aren't likely to get any results for a while.

    UPDATE: exit polls giving Right bloc 61-62/120 seats so looking like a return for Bibi.

    Thanks,

    DC

    It's looking like 61.

    So, the government will last about nine months until something happens to one of the 61.

    There aren't many better arguments for FPTP than Israel.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 1,846
    glw said:

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    That should be good. It would be like asking a goldfish to talk about impressionism.
    He's only in it for the Monet.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Gullis trending on twitter having apparently IDed a hotel where migrants are being housed.
  • glw said:

    Boris Johnson is literally worse than Hitler.

    Boris Johnson will address a cryptocurrency conference in Singapore next month as he forges a post-prime ministerial speaking career.

    Having failed to secure a second stint in Downing Street, Johnson will be the featured keynote speaker at the International Symposium on Blockchain Advancements on December 2. He remains the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip and the event will take place while parliament is sitting.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-speak-at-singapore-cryptocurrency-conference-w5kt7rn2g

    That should be good. It would be like asking a goldfish to talk about impressionism.
    He's only in it for the Monet.
    Surreal, innit?
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278

    Jonathan said:

    Hancock is due his 30mins.

    Haaa-Hancock's half-hour.
    Post of the day.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 17,712
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Drinking South African shiraz with Migos' long playing record "Young Rich N---s" on the radiogram. Rather good.

    The missing word must be "Northerners". What with levelling up and all.
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