PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It isn’t a “border dispute” it’s a sodding invasion!
Presumably for you, other famous “border disputes” include Germany invading Poland and Iraq invading Kuwait.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott · 13m Literally hundreds of people joined @reformparty_uk today. Presumably they’re former Tory supporters who no longer feel that the Conservatives are conservative. Bye bye red wall……
Excellent news
Will feel good for about 5 minutes, followed by years of despair and irrelevance.
As far as Boris Johnson is concerned, I've been trying to work out why he didn't get himself on the ballot today. I presume someone somewhere told him he wouldn't win the members' vote and as we know he doesn't take well to defeat so he prefers not to fight as we saw in 2016.
He was fortunate in facing the combined busted flushes known as Ken Livingstone (twice) and Jeremy Corbyn (once) and I think many other Conservatives would also be 3-0 against those gentlemen.
To be blunt, Boris Johnson has had his time - his moment was to unite the LEAVE vote (or 75% of it) as well as getting the 20% of REMAIN voters who were more scared of Corbyn than Brexit to form the winning 2019 coalition.
That has been shattered and Boris Johnson has gone with it - yes, there are a vociferous few who still think "good old Boris" is the best but they are loud on Twitter and that's all. I suppose enough could go to Reform and get then 4-5% at the next election and accentuate the Conservative disaster but that's about all.
As for Boris, add ten years of Labour rule and he's nearly 70 and while I suppose Kemi Badenoch could find a role for him in terms of actual serious power and influence, he'll be an elder statesman and treated with the same respect or contempt as Hague, Howard and Major are today.
In truth, there's nothing more EX than an ex-party leader.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
Your regular reminder that the only person who might start a nuclear war is named Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott · 13m Literally hundreds of people joined @reformparty_uk today. Presumably they’re former Tory supporters who no longer feel that the Conservatives are conservative. Bye bye red wall……
Excellent news
Will feel good for about 5 minutes, followed by years of despair and irrelevance.
The right of the conservative party are destined to follow the Corbynite culture into irrelevance
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
An important point raised here though. We know precious little of his opinions out with the economy. Has there ever been a PM that was more of a blank canvas?
I'm pretty confident there will have been a few, since many will have been deliberately bland and malleable in their opinions. Plus when they were appointed by the monarch more directly some might have been obscure to anyone not in the know.
But part of why he is a blank canvas is he has only been an MP for 7 years, which is a very short time to become PM, and he has been a junior minister or higher for all but 2.5 years of that, so he's not really been in a position where he would reveal his views, hence leaks about where he stood on covid and the like.
He's only been a Cabinet Minister for less than 3 years, he has to be one of the least experienced PMs we've had in a long time.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
Think what you want but heritage does affect outlook on the world somewhat, Obama too was less focused on Europe in foreign policy than previous Presidents
As ever with you, the problem is the certainty of your proposition and the weight you are giving to a single factor to the exclusion of all else. You presented it as a simple equation - he is of asian descent, therefore he does not care about Ukraine.
If you'll forgive me some virtue signalling, I'd invite you to examine one word you included above, which is rather important, which was 'somewhat'.
Even if we accept the premise that heritage affects outlook somewhat, to what extent is that true in general, and to what extent is that true for him specifically?
Without seeing inside his head we cannot know for certain what lies behind his views and focuses, but besides an assertion that asian people don't care about Ukraine, do you have any evidence that is why Sunak cares less about it, if he even does? And do alternative explanations exist besides racial foreign policy?
Your explanation excludes other rationales, even though you suggested he'll be closer to Macron in policy. Macron, who is not British Asian, did you know?
The French are usually more realpolitik and less hawkish than we are, see also Iraq
Look at why Rwanda 1994 happened.
New readers: HYUFD has never left the country, except on a coach tour of Israel to see first hand the archaeological evidence of how God hates queers and abortions. And how Christ deffo never got anal with John the disciple, no sirree.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
Think what you want but heritage does affect outlook on the world somewhat, Obama too was less focused on Europe in foreign policy than previous Presidents
Oh, I am of part Irish heritage. That must be why I find myself doing a little jig every now and again and getting into fights down the pub. I am sure I also have a little bit of Viking too, but somehow, I manage to resist the temptation to sail my ships to new lands, fight the fight, sing and cry and hope that one day I might get to Valhalla
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
There's me thinking that he was British, born, educated and elected here.
I am sorry to hear he is still a foreigner.
Truly bizarre coming from a supporter (and not a fake one either, he backed Sunak over Truss).
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
You think British people of different ethnicity cannot share foreign policy views?!
Wait until he hears about my views on the 'border dispute'.
I think as President and co-founder of the Start The War Coalition I'm the most hawkish person on this board.
You're a slacker.
I want Global Thermonuclear War now. And none of that tactical nuclear war nonsense - straight to the crowd pleasers.
EDIT: Bet you are a wimp on the position of the Ukraine/Republic of China border....
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It is not a border dispute. It is a war of conquest.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Utterly shocking comment and frankly complete garbage and even dangerous to imply such nonsense
I do despair at times. I really do ! HYUFD does occasionally do some fact based interesting posts and then we get these sweeping statements where everything is either black or white with no grey .
Sunak regardless of where his parents came from is PM of the UK so what happens in Europe matters .
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It is not a border dispute. It is a war of conquest.
The Crimean population for example is mostly ethnic Russian, we are not going to nuclear war with Moscow over the Crimea
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
Your regular reminder that the only person who might start a nuclear war is named Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
I find it hard to fathom how people as stupid as you have enough of an autonomous nervous system to keep you breathing. Even in your sleep! Can you really not understand (rhetorical question obv) that causing someone to start a war, is actually causing a war?
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Utterly shocking comment and frankly complete garbage and even dangerous to imply such nonsense
I do despair at times. I really do ! HYUFD does occasionally do some fact based interesting posts and then we get these sweeping statements where everything is either black or white with no grey .
Sunak regardless of where his parents came from is PM of the UK so what happens in Europe matters .
He would be a terrible PM to be uninterested in what is happening next door!
It's similar to when certain people claimed the EU no longer cared or was interested in the UK, as a slam against Brexit, when regardless of what everyone thinks about Brexit we are a very large developed nation right next to the EU, so if would be a harsh insult on EU leaders to suggest they would not be interested.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It is not a border dispute. It is a war of conquest.
The Crimean population is mostly ethnic Russian, we are not going to nuclear war with Moscow over the Crimea
What about Zaporizhia, Kherson, Lugansk and Donetsk?
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
Think what you want but heritage does affect outlook on the world somewhat, Obama too was less focused on Europe in foreign policy than previous Presidents
As ever with you, the problem is the certainty of your proposition and the weight you are giving to a single factor to the exclusion of all else. You presented it as a simple equation - he is of asian descent, therefore he does not care about Ukraine.
If you'll forgive me some virtue signalling, I'd invite you to examine one word you included above, which is rather important, which was 'somewhat'.
Even if we accept the premise that heritage affects outlook somewhat, to what extent is that true in general, and to what extent is that true for him specifically?
Without seeing inside his head we cannot know for certain what lies behind his views and focuses, but besides an assertion that asian people don't care about Ukraine, do you have any evidence that is why Sunak cares less about it, if he even does? And do alternative explanations exist besides racial foreign policy?
Your explanation excludes other rationales, even though you suggested he'll be closer to Macron in policy. Macron, who is not British Asian, did you know?
The French are usually more realpolitik and less hawkish than we are, see also Iraq
Look at why Rwanda 1994 happened.
New readers: HYUFD has never left the country, except on a coach tour of Israel to see first hand the archaeological evidence of how God hates queers and abortions. And how Christ deffo never got anal with John the disciple, no sirree.
Yes, I have, the USA, most of Europe, Mauritius and Palestine too, not just Israel
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
An important point raised here though. We know precious little of his opinions out with the economy. Has there ever been a PM that was more of a blank canvas?
I'm pretty confident there will have been a few, since many will have been deliberately bland and malleable in their opinions. Plus when they were appointed by the monarch more directly some might have been obscure to anyone not in the know.
But part of why he is a blank canvas is he has only been an MP for 7 years, which is a very short time to become PM, and he has been a junior minister or higher for all but 2.5 years of that, so he's not really been in a position where he would reveal his views, hence leaks about where he stood on covid and the like.
He's only been a Cabinet Minister for less than 3 years, he has to be one of the least experienced PMs we've had in a long time.
First ever PM from a Yorkshire constituency. An amazing stat.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It is not a border dispute. It is a war of conquest.
The Crimean population for example is mostly ethnic Russian, we are not going to nuclear war with Moscow over the Crimea
I am not entirely convinced that you are ethnically human
As far as Boris Johnson is concerned, I've been trying to work out why he didn't get himself on the ballot today. I presume someone somewhere told him he wouldn't win the members' vote and as we know he doesn't take well to defeat so he prefers not to fight as we saw in 2016.
He was fortunate in facing the combined busted flushes known as Ken Livingstone (twice) and Jeremy Corbyn (once) and I think many other Conservatives would also be 3-0 against those gentlemen.
To be blunt, Boris Johnson has had his time - his moment was to unite the LEAVE vote (or 75% of it) as well as getting the 20% of REMAIN voters who were more scared of Corbyn than Brexit to form the winning 2019 coalition.
That has been shattered and Boris Johnson has gone with it - yes, there are a vociferous few who still think "good old Boris" is the best but they are loud on Twitter and that's all. I suppose enough could go to Reform and get then 4-5% at the next election and accentuate the Conservative disaster but that's about all.
As for Boris, add ten years of Labour rule and he's nearly 70 and while I suppose Kemi Badenoch could find a role for him in terms of actual serious power and influence, he'll be an elder statesman and treated with the same respect or contempt as Hague, Howard and Major are today.
In truth, there's nothing more EX than an ex-party leader.
Regular readers will know that I was convinced from Friday that he would pull out, even if he got the hundred noms. It seemed obvious to me that the member ballot was never intended to happen. There are tons of levers the party hierarchy might have pulled to force Johnson to accept the inevitable; we can’t really guess what brutal truth or threat or promise did the trick, but the trick was done nevertheless.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
Your regular reminder that the only person who might start a nuclear war is named Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
I find it hard to fathom how people as stupid as you have enough of an autonomous nervous system to keep you breathing. Even in your sleep! Can you really not understand (rhetorical question obv) that causing someone to start a war, is actually causing a war?
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It is not a border dispute. It is a war of conquest.
The Crimean population for example is mostly ethnic Russian, we are not going to nuclear war with Moscow over the Crimea
That's is irrelevant as to whether or is accurate to characterise the war as a border dispute.
Finally, a quick look at the latest Danish polling with polling day for the Folketing just a week away.
The latest poll I've seen is the Voxmeter poll with fieldwork from 19-21 October.
That has the centre-left bloc on 49% and the centre-right bloc on 41.8% and the Moderates continuing to do well with 8.8% so the risk for Lars Lokke Rasmussen is even if his group join with the centre-right they may not have enough votes to overcome the centre-left.
On the centre-right side, Voxmeter have Venstre on 14.2% but the Conservatives and Denmark Democrats both down to 6.8% with the Liberal Alliance improving to 7.5%.
On the centre-left side, the Social Democrats are on 25.7% and the Socialist Folkeparti on 9.1% with Radikale Venstre stabilising just below 5%.
It's a very good poll for Mette Frederiksen and the centre-left and in contrast to Epinion which had the centre-left ahead by less than four points and the Moderates just shy of 10%.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
A russian nuke over the Crimea isnt going to flatten Epping Forest. Wont be too clever for Sevastopol tbf
Nobody wants centimetres. Fools measurement. The lady wants 6 foot and 6 inches not 182.88 and 15.24 cm
Without googling or using a calculator, due to my boyhood fascination with WW1 and WW2 battleships and their guns, I can tell you that:
3 inches = 76 mm 4 inches = 102 mm 5 inches = 127 mm 6 inches = 152 mm 7.5 inches = 190 mm 8 inches = 203 mm 9.2 inches = 234 mm 10 inches = 254 mm 11 inches = 279 mm 12 inches = 305 mm 13.5 inches = 343 mm 14 inches = 356 mm 15 inches = 381 mm 16 inches = 406 mm 18 inches = 457 mm
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
Think what you want but heritage does affect outlook on the world somewhat, Obama too was less focused on Europe in foreign policy than previous Presidents
As ever with you, the problem is the certainty of your proposition and the weight you are giving to a single factor to the exclusion of all else. You presented it as a simple equation - he is of asian descent, therefore he does not care about Ukraine.
If you'll forgive me some virtue signalling, I'd invite you to examine one word you included above, which is rather important, which was 'somewhat'.
Even if we accept the premise that heritage affects outlook somewhat, to what extent is that true in general, and to what extent is that true for him specifically?
Without seeing inside his head we cannot know for certain what lies behind his views and focuses, but besides an assertion that asian people don't care about Ukraine, do you have any evidence that is why Sunak cares less about it, if he even does? And do alternative explanations exist besides racial foreign policy?
Your explanation excludes other rationales, even though you suggested he'll be closer to Macron in policy. Macron, who is not British Asian, did you know?
If a white European leader can not 'care' as much about Ukraine as Boris and Truss, so can a non-white European leader. And if a white European leader can care as much about it as they did, so can a non-white leader.
The "Asian descent" stuff is crap, and ugly crap.
But Sunak's billionaire father-in-law is a Modi supporter. His foreign policy decisions are bound to be scrutinised in that context.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
As has been ably demonstrated by the U.K. and its allies, there is actually a middle ground between doing nothing and obliterating Moscow.
The reality of the situation in Ukraine is that it probably isn't currently in the US/western interest to make any deal with Russia. The aim should be to just keep on inflicting maximum damage to Russian military capability, so it just gets harder and harder for Russia to pursue the conflict. Psychologically the war is working well. Gradually the 'myths' about the greatness of Russia and the justice of the conflict will be revealed as a sham. Particularly given the fate of the conscripts. The trouble is that if you have a 'peace deal', then you will have to start again in a few years time and you will be back to square one. Russia has to be faced with a resolve greater than its own, and that is what it is encountering in Ukraine.
Nobody wants centimetres. Fools measurement. The lady wants 6 foot and 6 inches not 182.88 and 15.24 cm
Without googling or using a calculator, due to my boyhood fascination with WW1 and WW2 battleships and their guns, I can tell you that:
3 inches = 76 mm 4 inches = 102 mm 5 inches = 127 mm 6 inches = 152 mm 7.5 inches = 190 mm 8 inches = 203 mm 9.2 inches = 234 mm 10 inches = 254 mm 11 inches = 279 mm 12 inches = 305 mm 13.5 inches = 343 mm 14 inches = 356 mm 15 inches = 381 mm 16 inches = 406 mm 18 inches = 457 mm
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
An important point raised here though. We know precious little of his opinions out with the economy. Has there ever been a PM that was more of a blank canvas?
I'm pretty confident there will have been a few, since many will have been deliberately bland and malleable in their opinions. Plus when they were appointed by the monarch more directly some might have been obscure to anyone not in the know.
But part of why he is a blank canvas is he has only been an MP for 7 years, which is a very short time to become PM, and he has been a junior minister or higher for all but 2.5 years of that, so he's not really been in a position where he would reveal his views, hence leaks about where he stood on covid and the like.
He's only been a Cabinet Minister for less than 3 years, he has to be one of the least experienced PMs we've had in a long time.
First ever PM from a Yorkshire constituency. An amazing stat.
Yorkshire born, Yorkshire bred. Strong in’t arm, thick in’t ‘ead. Well, 1 out of 4 ain’t bad!
Nobody wants centimetres. Fools measurement. The lady wants 6 foot and 6 inches not 182.88 and 15.24 cm
Without googling or using a calculator, due to my boyhood fascination with WW1 and WW2 battleships and their guns, I can tell you that:
3 inches = 76 mm 4 inches = 102 mm 5 inches = 127 mm 6 inches = 152 mm 7.5 inches = 190 mm 8 inches = 203 mm 9.2 inches = 234 mm 10 inches = 254 mm 11 inches = 279 mm 12 inches = 305 mm 13.5 inches = 343 mm 14 inches = 356 mm 15 inches = 381 mm 16 inches = 406 mm 18 inches = 457 mm
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
A russian nuke over the Crimea isnt going to flatten Epping Forest. Wont be too clever for Sevastopol tbf
It might guarantee a suntan for those Russian beach babes though
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
Your regular reminder that the only person who might start a nuclear war is named Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
I find it hard to fathom how people as stupid as you have enough of an autonomous nervous system to keep you breathing. Even in your sleep! Can you really not understand (rhetorical question obv) that causing someone to start a war, is actually causing a war?
Don't feel you have to answer that.
How do we "cause" VVP to start a nuclear war?
Better yet, if we might "cause" him to start a nuclear war how do we avoid it? Please bear in mind that if your answer is "give into his nuclear blackmail", it only delays him, it doesn't stop him.
The reality of the situation in Ukraine is that it probably isn't currently in the US/western interest to make any deal with Russia. The aim should be to just keep on inflicting maximum damage to Russian military capability, so it just gets harder and harder for Russia to pursue the conflict. Psychologically the war is working well. Gradually the 'myths' about the greatness of Russia and the justice of the conflict will be revealed as a sham. Particularly given the fate of the conscripts. The trouble is that if you have a 'peace deal', then you will have to start again in a few years time and you will be back to square one. Russia has to be faced with a resolve greater than its own, and that is what it is encountering in Ukraine.
Yes, there is a cynical take on that which is that we can see Russian capability degraded whilst the Ukrainians pay the price. However what we don't want is an endless on/off conflict if we can avoid it.
The reality of the situation in Ukraine is that it probably isn't currently in the US/western interest to make any deal with Russia. The aim should be to just keep on inflicting maximum damage to Russian military capability, so it just gets harder and harder for Russia to pursue the conflict. Psychologically the war is working well. Gradually the 'myths' about the greatness of Russia and the justice of the conflict will be revealed as a sham. Particularly given the fate of the conscripts. The trouble is that if you have a 'peace deal', then you will have to start again in a few years time and you will be back to square one. Russia has to be faced with a resolve greater than its own, and that is what it is encountering in Ukraine.
You believe that ideas about the greatness of Russia and the just nature of the war are being eroded in Russia's military and civilian populations, and that Russia is on its way to being defeated in a war of attrition - am I right?
Making the enemy stop fighting is the aim of all war.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
How about being obliterated by a nuclear missile over the Baltics?
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
Even if that is so, for sake of argument, it does not follow that Rishi Sunak is less gung-ho because he is British Asian - he's not a typical person of any type for a start, hence why he is Prime Minister.
He might not be as robust on Ukraine as Boris or Truss, we shall see, but I am very confident his skin colour won't be why.
An important point raised here though. We know precious little of his opinions out with the economy. Has there ever been a PM that was more of a blank canvas?
I'm pretty confident there will have been a few, since many will have been deliberately bland and malleable in their opinions. Plus when they were appointed by the monarch more directly some might have been obscure to anyone not in the know.
But part of why he is a blank canvas is he has only been an MP for 7 years, which is a very short time to become PM, and he has been a junior minister or higher for all but 2.5 years of that, so he's not really been in a position where he would reveal his views, hence leaks about where he stood on covid and the like.
He's only been a Cabinet Minister for less than 3 years, he has to be one of the least experienced PMs we've had in a long time.
First ever PM from a Yorkshire constituency. An amazing stat.
Until he ascends the list is topped and tailed by Norfolk, the alpha and omega of counties
The Daily Mail appears to think its readership have no memory. Maybe they don't.
The one advantage of senility is that you can read The Daily Mail in the morning and by the afternoon you can read it all over again without any sense of repetition or incredulity.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
You don't understand what realpolitik is. Clue: it isn't a synonym for appeasement.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
Sometimes you talk sense here, @HYUFD, but this contribution is idiotic. I am no poster boy for Rishi Sunak, but whatever his attitude to British foreign or defence policy is it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that his grandparents were from India. Only a plonker would disagree.
Boris Johnson's greatgrandfather was from Turkey. Tony Blair's mother was from Ireland. Who gives a f***?
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
You don't understand what realpolitik is. Clue: it isn't a synonym for appeasement.
If Putin launched a tactical nuke over Ukranian forces pushing into Donbass and Crimea and NATO forces then bombed and destroyed his fleet and Putin responded with further nuclear weapons against NATO, that wouldn't be appeasement, that would be WW3
The Daily Mail appears to think its readership have no memory. Maybe they don't.
The one advantage of senility is that you can read The Daily Mail in the morning and by the afternoon you can read it all over again without any sense of repetition or incredulity.
I know that is in jest but our next door neighbour who is in her late eighties and living alone fits that description exactly
We have known her and her family for nearly 60 years, and it is so distressing to witness her failing mind and more so for her family who live a distance away
Dementia is one of the most upsetting health issues imaginable as your love one often deteriorates to not knowing who their dearest and nearest are
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
You don't understand what realpolitik is. Clue: it isn't a synonym for appeasement.
If Putin launched a tactical nuke over Ukranian forces pushing into Donbass and Crimea and NATO forces then bombed and destroyed his fleet and Putin responded with further nuclear weapons against NATO, that wouldn't be appeasement, that would be WW3
So your solution is to give Putin what he wants and hope he doesn’t try and pull the same trick with other parts of Eastern Europe.
It doesn’t solve the problem. It merely delays it.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
You don't understand what realpolitik is. Clue: it isn't a synonym for appeasement.
If Putin launched a tactical nuke over Ukranian forces pushing into Donbass and Crimea and NATO forces then bombed and destroyed his fleet and Putin responded with further nuclear weapons against NATO, that wouldn't be appeasement, that would be WW3
You do not beat the war monger Putin by appeasement which is just what you are suggesting
The Daily Mail appears to think its readership have no memory. Maybe they don't.
The one advantage of senility is that you can read The Daily Mail in the morning and by the afternoon you can read it all over again without any sense of repetition or incredulity.
I know that is in jest but our next door neighbour who is in her late eighties and living alone fits that description exactly
We have known her and her family for nearly 60 years, and it is so distressing to witness her failing mind and more so for her family who live a distance away
Dementia is one of the most upsetting health issues imaginable as your love one often deteriorates to not knowing who their dearest and nearest are
Alzheimer’s sufferers deserve better than to be compared to Daily Mail readers.
So we will soon have a PM who worships a little blue bloke who goes around shagging milkmaids, and another chap who has had a head transplant with an elephant.
Once again I think HYUFD is suffering something of a pile-on on the Russia issue. Considering what is at stake a purely pragmatic approach should not at all be out of bounds.
Britain and others at all times need to balance continued support for Ukraine with weighing up risk and the calculus of interests.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
What a ridiculously prejudiced statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Truss made it an issue in the summer, there is no doubt Zelensky preferred Boris and Truss in charge to Rishi
India is taking a largely neutral position on it, most British Asians I know don't want to get too involved
You are making a fool of yourself but then that is par for the course
Why not just go and join RefUK - you know you want to
No I don't, I even voted for Sunak in the summer and in any case a less hawkish but still firm position on Putin from No 10 is less likely to involve us in a nuclear war and WW3.
You are sounding like a Putin appeaser
At the end of the day Ukraine is not in NATO, we can still send them supplies but we should not risk nuclear war with Russia over a border dispute in the Donbass and Crimea
It is not a border dispute. It is a war of conquest.
The Crimean population for example is mostly ethnic Russian, we are not going to nuclear war with Moscow over the Crimea
Really what the fuck....it doesnt matter what there ethnicity is....if they don't want russian rule they dont want it. I keep thinking you cant sink lower in your morals but you consistently surprise on the downside where moral compasses are concerned you are liz truss
Nobody wants centimetres. Fools measurement. The lady wants 6 foot and 6 inches not 182.88 and 15.24 cm
Without googling or using a calculator, due to my boyhood fascination with WW1 and WW2 battleships and their guns, I can tell you that:
3 inches = 76 mm 4 inches = 102 mm 5 inches = 127 mm 6 inches = 152 mm 7.5 inches = 190 mm 8 inches = 203 mm 9.2 inches = 234 mm 10 inches = 254 mm 11 inches = 279 mm 12 inches = 305 mm 13.5 inches = 343 mm 14 inches = 356 mm 15 inches = 381 mm 16 inches = 406 mm 18 inches = 457 mm
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
You don't understand what realpolitik is. Clue: it isn't a synonym for appeasement.
If Putin launched a tactical nuke over Ukranian forces pushing into Donbass and Crimea and NATO forces then bombed and destroyed his fleet and Putin responded with further nuclear weapons against NATO, that wouldn't be appeasement, that would be WW3
Really get a grip.....Putin is the bully who asks for your lunch money and says if you give it to him he will not hassle you tomorrow....yes he will. Give in to his rhetoric of do what I want or I nuke is a recipe for disaster. Today it will be the Ukraine, tomorrow it will be poland or estonia. Stand up to the mad fuck now or we end up ceding eastern europe to him.
PM Rishi Sunak might face the biggest geopolitical crisis in many decades in his first week in office. Unenviable
Sunak however is much less of a hawk than Boris and Truss were, indeed his position on Putin is not much different to Macron's.
Looks like Zelensky will therefore be relying on Biden for a firm response, which may be hope more than likelihood
Nah. He’s about to get inducted as PM. It’ll change him. Chancellor is a different role and requires different priorities, precisely because there’s others in Cabinet to argue the non-financial case.
It won't change his core beliefs, at the end of the day he is a PM of Indian not European heritage looking to links with Asia for the UK's future. He has no interest in getting involved in a border dispute on the Russian Ukraine border now there is little danger of Kyiv falling
This is the biggest load of bollocks I’ve heard from you. And I was so hopeful after your general common sense regarding a Sunak premiership
I am astonished he made such comments and frankly he sounds like a Putin appeaser
If wanting to avoid being obliberated by a Russian nuclear missile over the Crimea and Donbass makes me a Putin appeaser so be it.
It used to be called realpolitik
You don't understand what realpolitik is. Clue: it isn't a synonym for appeasement.
If Putin launched a tactical nuke over Ukranian forces pushing into Donbass and Crimea and NATO forces then bombed and destroyed his fleet and Putin responded with further nuclear weapons against NATO, that wouldn't be appeasement, that would be WW3
Realpolitik is accepting that you have to risk nuclear war to keep yourself safe from nuclear blackmail.
This is not a comfortable realisation for me, but it is a rare foray away from my normal idealism so I guess I should expect it to feel uncomfortable.
I don't know what the root of your view is, but it's not realistic. You can't pretend the nuclear threat doesn't exist by trying to ignore it or give in to it.
So we will soon have a PM who worships a little blue bloke who goes around shagging milkmaids, and another chap who has had a head transplant with an elephant.
And I thought Christians were bonkers.
Why are those any more outlandish than humans who can walk on water, get pregnant without being inseminated, and feed everyone at a Grimsby Town home game with a couple of sardines?
The reality of the situation in Ukraine is that it probably isn't currently in the US/western interest to make any deal with Russia. The aim should be to just keep on inflicting maximum damage to Russian military capability, so it just gets harder and harder for Russia to pursue the conflict. Psychologically the war is working well. Gradually the 'myths' about the greatness of Russia and the justice of the conflict will be revealed as a sham. Particularly given the fate of the conscripts. The trouble is that if you have a 'peace deal', then you will have to start again in a few years time and you will be back to square one. Russia has to be faced with a resolve greater than its own, and that is what it is encountering in Ukraine.
You believe that ideas about the greatness of Russia and the just nature of the war are being eroded in Russia's military and civilian populations, and that Russia is on its way to being defeated in a war of attrition - am I right?
Making the enemy stop fighting is the aim of all war.
Clearly there is a proportion of the population who are sceptical about Putin's myths about Russian greatness otherwise why would people be fleeing the country. Others are accepting that they need to go as their duty but they are then being grossly let down by the Russian state on every level. The incompetence is clear to see, the video evidence is damning. I don't see how this could not have a psychological impact on a population that diminishes enthusiasm for the war.
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Presumably for you, other famous “border disputes” include Germany invading Poland and Iraq invading Kuwait.
https://ukpopulation.org/average-male-height/
As far as Boris Johnson is concerned, I've been trying to work out why he didn't get himself on the ballot today. I presume someone somewhere told him he wouldn't win the members' vote and as we know he doesn't take well to defeat so he prefers not to fight as we saw in 2016.
He was fortunate in facing the combined busted flushes known as Ken Livingstone (twice) and Jeremy Corbyn (once) and I think many other Conservatives would also be 3-0 against those gentlemen.
To be blunt, Boris Johnson has had his time - his moment was to unite the LEAVE vote (or 75% of it) as well as getting the 20% of REMAIN voters who were more scared of Corbyn than Brexit to form the winning 2019 coalition.
That has been shattered and Boris Johnson has gone with it - yes, there are a vociferous few who still think "good old Boris" is the best but they are loud on Twitter and that's all. I suppose enough could go to Reform and get then 4-5% at the next election and accentuate the Conservative disaster but that's about all.
As for Boris, add ten years of Labour rule and he's nearly 70 and while I suppose Kemi Badenoch could find a role for him in terms of actual serious power and influence, he'll be an elder statesman and treated with the same respect or contempt as Hague, Howard and Major are today.
In truth, there's nothing more EX than an ex-party leader.
Sort it out Sunny.
But part of why he is a blank canvas is he has only been an MP for 7 years, which is a very short time to become PM, and he has been a junior minister or higher for all but 2.5 years of that, so he's not really been in a position where he would reveal his views, hence leaks about where he stood on covid and the like.
He's only been a Cabinet Minister for less than 3 years, he has to be one of the least experienced PMs we've had in a long time.
New readers: HYUFD has never left the country, except on a coach tour of Israel to see first hand the archaeological evidence of how God hates queers and abortions. And how Christ deffo never got anal with John the disciple, no sirree.
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1584638750600175617/photo/1
Can someone please tell me what a "smoothing cubic spline" is and whether I need one as I get older?
Edit : using 2.54 cm per inch you are right, and my online calc is clearly rubbish!
I stand ashamed and corrected…
Second edit. I see now it reported .84 feet, which is of course 10 inches!
Apologies to anyone who read this rubbish.
I want Global Thermonuclear War now. And none of that tactical nuclear war nonsense - straight to the crowd pleasers.
EDIT: Bet you are a wimp on the position of the Ukraine/Republic of China border....
178/2.54 = 70
I'd get two if I were you!
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1584604224184324106
Edit: What a waste of an 80000 post.
Sunak regardless of where his parents came from is PM of the UK so what happens in Europe matters .
I was working on 30cms = 1 foot which is not quite right of course
Don't feel you have to answer that.
Personally I think the LOESS smooth is good enough, though I believe there are modifications to that which lessen the issues that has at each end.
It's similar to when certain people claimed the EU no longer cared or was interested in the UK, as a slam against Brexit, when regardless of what everyone thinks about Brexit we are a very large developed nation right next to the EU, so if would be a harsh insult on EU leaders to suggest they would not be interested.
Are you 5'7 ?
Will Michael Green keep his job?
Will Penny get the nod as Forsec?
Will we finally be rid of Jake Rees?
The lady wants 6 foot and 6 inches not 182.88 and 15.24 cm
It used to be called realpolitik
The latest poll I've seen is the Voxmeter poll with fieldwork from 19-21 October.
That has the centre-left bloc on 49% and the centre-right bloc on 41.8% and the Moderates continuing to do well with 8.8% so the risk for Lars Lokke Rasmussen is even if his group join with the centre-right they may not have enough votes to overcome the centre-left.
On the centre-right side, Voxmeter have Venstre on 14.2% but the Conservatives and Denmark Democrats both down to 6.8% with the Liberal Alliance improving to 7.5%.
On the centre-left side, the Social Democrats are on 25.7% and the Socialist Folkeparti on 9.1% with Radikale Venstre stabilising just below 5%.
It's a very good poll for Mette Frederiksen and the centre-left and in contrast to Epinion which had the centre-left ahead by less than four points and the Moderates just shy of 10%.
3 inches = 76 mm
4 inches = 102 mm
5 inches = 127 mm
6 inches = 152 mm
7.5 inches = 190 mm
8 inches = 203 mm
9.2 inches = 234 mm
10 inches = 254 mm
11 inches = 279 mm
12 inches = 305 mm
13.5 inches = 343 mm
14 inches = 356 mm
15 inches = 381 mm
16 inches = 406 mm
18 inches = 457 mm
But Sunak's billionaire father-in-law is a Modi supporter. His foreign policy decisions are bound to be scrutinised in that context.
Maybe they don't.
(Admittedly it’s somewhat bizarre - although seemingly justifiable. I once read a mildly interesting ‘cat facts’ feature in the Star)
Better yet, if we might "cause" him to start a nuclear war how do we avoid it? Please bear in mind that if your answer is "give into his nuclear blackmail", it only delays him, it doesn't stop him.
Making the enemy stop fighting is the aim of all war.
Boris Johnson's greatgrandfather was from Turkey. Tony Blair's mother was from Ireland. Who gives a f***?
That's why I like an afternoon kip.
We have known her and her family for nearly 60 years, and it is so distressing to witness her failing mind and more so for her family who live a distance away
Dementia is one of the most upsetting health issues imaginable as your love one often deteriorates to not knowing who their dearest and nearest are
It doesn’t solve the problem. It merely delays it.
And I thought Christians were bonkers.
Britain and others at all times need to balance continued support for Ukraine with weighing up risk and the calculus of interests.
This is not a comfortable realisation for me, but it is a rare foray away from my normal idealism so I guess I should expect it to feel uncomfortable.
I don't know what the root of your view is, but it's not realistic. You can't pretend the nuclear threat doesn't exist by trying to ignore it or give in to it.
Nor answering why there wasn't a general election following Blair's transfer to Brown.
Labour's "talent" is very thinly spread - and that will be exposed over the next two years.