Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
Sherlock's pretty good, but this series was the weakest so far by some distance. If I were writing it I'd kill the wife off sharpish.
I agree. It's Scrappy-Doo all over again. Or that screeching woman/the squeaky kid combo in 'Temple of Doom'.
Spielberg married that actress, and they remain together to this day apparently. I think that explains part of why nothing was done to improve that aspect of the movie.
Easily the weakest Indiana Jones movie. Yes I am including Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I didn't mind the kid when I was a kid, which I guess is the point, but when have precocious kids ever helped a movie? It was part of what made Iron Man 3 so bad.
Old Yeller?
Point.
Kate Capshaw's portrayal of Willie Scott is hardly one of the heights of the cinematic art, but is it any worse than Dick van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins?
if you've called out someone at the top to face you, of course you stand your ground and refuse to debate anyone else until that happens
Except Cameron isn't at the top of anything as defined by Salmond.
Salmond demanded that the debate be between Scots, in Scotland.
Cameron isn't on that list, never mind at the top.
Cameron also isn't the top of lots of other things too. A Cybernat elsewhere tried to claim he was head of the UK. That's the Queen. So he tried head of the UK Government. That's the Queen.
Cameron is the leader of the largest party in a Parliament Salmond shunned. He is perfectly entitled, by the rules Eck set himself, to tell Salmond where he can stick his debate
On some interpretations. But (as the LDs show) sticking by the rules is not always the politic thing. The fact is that Mr C is showing himself frightened, and that a recent poll showed a majority in the UK wanted him to come out fighting.
You surely don't expect comical scottish tory surgers to be in touch with either scottish public opinion or the facts?
The PB tories are always wrong. The PB tories never learn.
Sherlock's pretty good, but this series was the weakest so far by some distance. If I were writing it I'd kill the wife off sharpish.
I agree. It's Scrappy-Doo all over again. Or that screeching woman/the squeaky kid combo in 'Temple of Doom'.
Spielberg married that actress, and they remain together to this day apparently. I think that explains part of why nothing was done to improve that aspect of the movie.
Easily the weakest Indiana Jones movie. Yes I am including Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I didn't mind the kid when I was a kid, which I guess is the point, but when have precocious kids ever helped a movie? It was part of what made Iron Man 3 so bad.
Old Yeller?
Point.
Kate Capshaw's portrayal of Willie Scott is hardly one of the heights of the cinematic art, but is it any worse than Dick van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins?
Oh no, nowhere near as bad. It's just irritating, which combined with Shotround being irritating, makes the movie so bad. Dial both those two down a notch and it's fun enough.
Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
Sherlock's pretty good, but this series was the weakest so far by some distance. If I were writing it I'd kill the wife off sharpish.
I agree. It's Scrappy-Doo all over again. Or that screeching woman/the squeaky kid combo in 'Temple of Doom'.
Spielberg married that actress, and they remain together to this day apparently. I think that explains part of why nothing was done to improve that aspect of the movie.
Easily the weakest Indiana Jones movie. Yes I am including Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I didn't mind the kid when I was a kid, which I guess is the point, but when have precocious kids ever helped a movie? It was part of what made Iron Man 3 so bad.
Old Yeller?
Point.
Kate Capshaw's portrayal of Willie Scott is hardly one of the heights of the cinematic art, but is it any worse than Dick van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins?
Oh no, nowhere near as bad. It's just irritating, which combined with Shotround being irritating, makes the movie so bad. Dial both those two down a notch and it's fun enough.
Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
When most of us split up with our boyfriends / girlfriends, we only have to sort out the CD collections. "You gave me the Jedward Best Of album for my birthday!"; "Yes, but I bought it!"
if you've called out someone at the top to face you, of course you stand your ground and refuse to debate anyone else until that happens
Except Cameron isn't at the top of anything as defined by Salmond.
Salmond demanded that the debate be between Scots, in Scotland.
Cameron isn't on that list, never mind at the top.
Cameron also isn't the top of lots of other things too. A Cybernat elsewhere tried to claim he was head of the UK. That's the Queen. So he tried head of the UK Government. That's the Queen.
Cameron is the leader of the largest party in a Parliament Salmond shunned. He is perfectly entitled, by the rules Eck set himself, to tell Salmond where he can stick his debate
On some interpretations. But (as the LDs show) sticking by the rules is not always the politic thing. The fact is that Mr C is showing himself frightened, and that a recent poll showed a majority in the UK wanted him to come out fighting.
You surely don't expect comical scottish tory surgers to be in touch with either scottish public opinion or the facts?
The PB tories are always wrong. The PB tories never learn.
LOL
I'm too polite ... and remember it is not just Scottish public opinion either!
Sherlock's pretty good, but this series was the weakest so far by some distance. If I were writing it I'd kill the wife off sharpish.
I agree. It's Scrappy-Doo all over again. Or that screeching woman/the squeaky kid combo in 'Temple of Doom'.
Spielberg married that actress, and they remain together to this day apparently. I think that explains part of why nothing was done to improve that aspect of the movie.
Easily the weakest Indiana Jones movie. Yes I am including Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I didn't mind the kid when I was a kid, which I guess is the point, but when have precocious kids ever helped a movie? It was part of what made Iron Man 3 so bad.
Old Yeller?
Point.
Kate Capshaw's portrayal of Willie Scott is hardly one of the heights of the cinematic art, but is it any worse than Dick van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins?
Oh no, nowhere near as bad. It's just irritating, which combined with Shotround being irritating, makes the movie so bad. Dial both those two down a notch and it's fun enough.
Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
Conservatives could come second...
Seriously?
I'm not a big fan of the Star Wars prequels to be honest.
I'm currently dragging my way through the Star Trek movies, and for a purely dreadfully awful movie, even without a screaming woman or precocious kid, "Star Trek - The Motion Picture" takes some beating.
The fact it was directed by the director of "The Sound Of Music" says something, but what it is I've no idea :-)
When most of us split up with our boyfriends / girlfriends, we only have to sort out the CD collections. "You gave me the Jedward Best Of album for my birthday!"; "Yes, but I bought it!"
UKIP may well make progress but get third place. These are city dwelling Manc Tories, not retired East coasters. William Hill has only got first place odds up at present, and not much to tempt me there. Tories coming second may well tempt me in Wythenshaw, LDs less so.
Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
I'm sitting in a bar in Bratislava, so can't post much.
I've seen this type of witch-hunt at first hand, and it isn't pretty. People lose their minds over it and become infected with malice. Court orders even can mean nothing to them. It becomes a personal war. At some point some may even think the only way to cure the cancer is to actively work covertly or overtly for the organization's destruction. At a minimum the wounds will never heal.
Yeah, I think you might have mentioned that a few dozen times already. Are you sure your feelings on Rennard aren't being unduly coloured by your experience?
When most of us split up with our boyfriends / girlfriends, we only have to sort out the CD collections. "You gave me the Jedward Best Of album for my birthday!"; "Yes, but I bought it!"
UKIP may well make progress but get third place. These are city dwelling Manc Tories, not retired East coasters. William Hill has only got first place odds up at present, and not much to tempt me there. Tories coming second may well tempt me in Wythenshaw, LDs less so.
Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
Conservatives could come second...
At any rate it'll show us how UKIP is doing in Northwest Safe LAB seats where CON is second and not the Lib Dems:
General election, 1997 Paul Fleming Conservative 11,429 25.1 General election, 2001 Susan F.M. Fildes Conservative 8,424 24.0 General election, 2005 Jane E. P. Meehan Conservative 8,051 22.3 General election 2010 Janet Clowes Conservative 10,412 25.6
My thoughts too. The LD vote was not far behind, and is unlikely to break for the Kippers, probably mostly to Labour, with a significant number of non voters.
There may well be some churn, with Labour voters going kipper, while LD voters go to Labour, giving an apparent swing from LD to UKIP.
UKIP may well make progress but get third place. These are city dwelling Manc Tories, not retired East coasters. William Hill has only got first place odds up at present, and not much to tempt me there. Tories coming second may well tempt me in Wythenshaw, LDs less so.
Is there any hope for someone other than UKIP coming second in this upcoming by-election? I hate these by-elections with almost no chance of the seat changing hands.
Conservatives could come second...
At any rate it'll show us how UKIP is doing in Northwest Safe LAB seats where CON is second and not the Lib Dems:
General election, 1997 Paul Fleming Conservative 11,429 25.1 General election, 2001 Susan F.M. Fildes Conservative 8,424 24.0 General election, 2005 Jane E. P. Meehan Conservative 8,051 22.3 General election 2010 Janet Clowes Conservative 10,412 25.6
When most of us split up with our boyfriends / girlfriends, we only have to sort out the CD collections. "You gave me the Jedward Best Of album for my birthday!"; "Yes, but I bought it!"
Hey! I used to live in the New Jersey Pine Barrens - the southern part of the state (except around Philly) is a lovely place to live.
No doubt but it's somewhat lurid reputation has been fostered by such things as the Sopranos and other TV and Movies for years. The reality always falls short of the spin.
Wonder how many people feel like Arganath (Highly rated Daily Telegraph commenter) in Sale:
"I find it odd that Labour feel so smug about UKIP, they think, wrongly, that in their White Working class heartlands in the North their voters will vote for them automatically and forever. This is wrong, Labour are widely hated it's just they are not quite as hated as the Tories.
The people have been waiting for an alternative, and with UKIP it looks like that alternative had finally arrived."
TSE : I think you should change the entry under #6 to "Europhiles continue to lie"
The first claim by British Influence under their "Tearing apart UKIPs EU Myth Busting" is an outright lie.
They say:
"We have a trade deficit in goods with the EU. When services are included we have a trade surplus, so we wouldn’t be in the best negotiating position."
This is simply untrue. We do not have a trade surplus with the EU with or without services being included. According to the 2013 Pink Book, our current account with the EU27 is now showing a deficit of more than £90 billion
When most of us split up with our boyfriends / girlfriends, we only have to sort out the CD collections. "You gave me the Jedward Best Of album for my birthday!"; "Yes, but I bought it!"
Wonder how many people feel like Arganath (Highly rated Daily Telegraph commenter) in Sale:
"I find it odd that Labour feel so smug about UKIP, they think, wrongly, that in their White Working class heartlands in the North their voters will vote for them automatically and forever. This is wrong, Labour are widely hated it's just they are not quite as hated as the Tories.
The people have been waiting for an alternative, and with UKIP it looks like that alternative had finally arrived."
Well he's wrong about UKIP being the only alternative as SLAB's hammering in their heartlands in scotland in 2011 proves. As for the rest of it, it seems bang on and is easily seen here.
Two parties falling when the UKIP vote gets high enough, not one.
I suppose if the lib dem civil war gets bad enough it's conceivable that could give labour a bit of a bump but the damage from that, though severe, will likely be internal rather than splash headlines and big instant VI moves. (the lib dems aren't exactly doing well anyway)
The Kippers are always more likely to benefit if it was Cameron rather than Clegg caught up in some convoluted and seemingly endless scandal.
What labour are banking on is what Cammie himself has said. If the kippers aren't under 5% come 2015 then it won't really matter what the headline VI is before that. Even a small crossover won't save the tories unless that kipper vote is still smashed down to below 5%. Which looks pretty damn unlikely right now. As the tory backbenchers know full well and quite clearly fear.
On Labour's Ukip smugness - it's somewhat understandable in our winner takes all electoral system (which conservatives are generally most in favour of) that if Ukip are doing more damage to the Tories than Labour the reds will be happy about it. So long as they don't overtake Labour of course.
Good to see David Blunkett sticking it to (Tory secret agent?) Russell Brand. Whatever you think of their records in government it's nice to see elder statesmen using their position to raise issues they consider important given they no longer needing to take into account political calculations. Mr Major being another fine example. Of course the case of Mr T.Blair who only seems to pop up nowadays if there is a war he wants to sell us, is a regrettable exception.
I would love to see far more independent analyses not commissioned by the current Holyrood Government, especially when you consider what poor form they have these days for being honest with the Scots electorate.
« hide previous quotes @richardDodd said: The SNP are really quite bizarre in their attempts to ban Fracking "Before it's too late" thay say...too late for what?
I've read a report from McSporran University that they're afraid the underground tremors will effect the mating grounds of the Haggis, and cause a worldwide glut on Scotland main export. #
Reference please? I can't find it - are you thinking of the Green Party?
Given that AFAIK the Scottish Government and the Scots get none of the revenue (there is no Barnett formula for income), and have to bear all the costs of planning, monitoring, pollution, etc., even without any disasters, and given that they are already net exporters of energy as electricity and as oil, it would not be surprising if the Scots are reluctant to be guinea-pigs yet again for the benefit of the London Government.
I would in any case be very wary of supporting introducing fracking into densely populated synclinal sedimentary basins riddled with 300 years + of old mines, including into oilshale and ironstone and fireclay as well as coal. I would like to see independent analyses not commissioned by the London Government.
I would love to see far more independent analyses not commissioned by the current Holyrood Government, especially when you consider what poor form they have these days for being honest with the Scots electorate.
Strange that scottish public opinion proves you so very wrong. As usual.
No mid-term blues as SNP stay ahead in Holyrood poll http://sco.lt/8LQOiP #Referendum2014 #indyref
That oft-delayed scottish tory surge of yours must be mere years away now.
The view from inside the Cameroon bunker must be a very curious one indeed if all they have to cheer about is that the only thing keeping them in government is a lib dem party seemingly locked in a civil war and endless internal strife.
How very unlike Cast Iron Cammie and his own MPs. They always trust him to tell the truth, don't they?
A YouGov poll suggests that most Lib Dem voters want him to walk away from the party. While 32 per cent said they thought he should “remain in the Liberal Democrats as it has not been proved that he’s done anything wrong”, 47 per cent believed that he should leave because “he is damaging the wider organisation”.
Among Men 40% say he should stay, 39% say leave
Among women 43% say he should go, 27% say he should stay
Among all voters 41% say he should leave the party, 33% say he should stay.
The row risks damaging the party’s image. The poll showed that the party is seen as only slightly less sleazy than the Conservatives, with 42 per cent regarding the Tories as sleazy and 41 per cent regarding the Lib Dems the same way.
A YouGov poll suggests that most Lib Dem voters want him to walk away from the party. While 32 per cent said they thought he should “remain in the Liberal Democrats as it has not been proved that he’s done anything wrong”, 47 per cent believed that he should leave because “he is damaging the wider organisation”.
Among Men 40% say he should go, 39% say leave
Among women 43% say he should stay, 27% say he should stay
Among all voters 41% say he should leave the party, 33% say he should stay.
The row risks damaging the party’s image. The poll showed that the party is seen as only slightly less sleazy than the Conservatives, with 42 per cent regarding the Tories as sleazy and 41 per cent regarding the Lib Dems the same way.
Surely the point is he doesn't have to go or leave.
He just has to apologise. No one will notice him sitting on the Lib Dem benches in the Lords and no one is suggesting that he should return to a position of executive power in the party.
The solution to this problem is for Rennard to do the right thing and then everyone to shut up.
A YouGov poll suggests that most Lib Dem voters want him to walk away from the party. While 32 per cent said they thought he should “remain in the Liberal Democrats as it has not been proved that he’s done anything wrong”, 47 per cent believed that he should leave because “he is damaging the wider organisation”.
Among Men 40% say he should stay, 39% say leave
Among women 43% say he should go, 27% say he should stay
Among all voters 41% say he should leave the party, 33% say he should stay.
The row risks damaging the party’s image. The poll showed that the party is seen as only slightly less sleazy than the Conservatives, with 42 per cent regarding the Tories as sleazy and 41 per cent regarding the Lib Dems the same way.
Looks like there is no right answer for Clegg
Lets all laugh at the broken, sleazy Lib Dems on the slide.
"Asked to describe themselves, 46% of people say they are working class, 42% middle class.
It’s interesting to compare the ABC1C2DE social categorisations of people (which is based on their occupation) with their self-perceptions:
35% of people in “middle class occupations” consider themselves working class, and
28% of people in “working class occupations” consider themselves middle class.
Obviously the ABC classification is pretty crude in its own way, but it’s also a sign of perceptions of social class are an awful lot more complicated than people’s own current occupation."
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The PB tories are always wrong. The PB tories never learn.
LOL
Miriam Clegg was left 'furious' by Lord Rennard's failure to apologise to his alleged victims and influenced her husband's decision confront the peer
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nick-clegg/10588443/Is-Nick-Cleggs-angry-wife-Miriam-behind-his-battle-with-Lord-Rennard.html
He's my second biggest green after Rand Paul.
Might be completely wrong though.
When most of us split up with our boyfriends / girlfriends, we only have to sort out the CD collections. "You gave me the Jedward Best Of album for my birthday!"; "Yes, but I bought it!"
For the mega-rich, it's their supercars:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25831455
"You bought me the Lamborghini Aventador for my birthday!"; "Yes, but it was my money!"
Even better: the Lamborghini was later sold to pay for the Bentley he had bought her ...
First World Problems.
I'm currently dragging my way through the Star Trek movies, and for a purely dreadfully awful movie, even without a screaming woman or precocious kid, "Star Trek - The Motion Picture" takes some beating.
The fact it was directed by the director of "The Sound Of Music" says something, but what it is I've no idea :-)
W&SE vote %
Under over 5/6
Lab 45.5
Ukip 26.5
Con 12.5
LD 9.5
Come on, no bet too small, some may be too big!
Yeah, I think you might have mentioned that a few dozen times already. Are you sure your feelings on Rennard aren't being unduly coloured by your experience?
Meanwhile Christie is fast emulating a Romneyshambles with the laughter becoming very loud indeed.
General election, 1997 Paul Fleming Conservative 11,429 25.1
General election, 2001 Susan F.M. Fildes Conservative 8,424 24.0
General election, 2005 Jane E. P. Meehan Conservative 8,051 22.3
General election 2010 Janet Clowes Conservative 10,412 25.6
A remarkable consistency of vote !
http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2014/01/release-of-initial-findings-from-the-scottish-social-attitudes-survey/
and
http://www.scotsman.com/news/john-curtice-finance-key-in-independence-debate-1-3277344
Lib dem harmony can only be mere months away now.
There may well be some churn, with Labour voters going kipper, while LD voters go to Labour, giving an apparent swing from LD to UKIP.
That is, if she liked smelly, sweaty and bearded long-distance walkers. Which I'm not sure she does ...
No doubt but it's somewhat lurid reputation has been fostered by such things as the Sopranos and other TV and Movies for years. The reality always falls short of the spin.
"I find it odd that Labour feel so smug about UKIP, they think, wrongly, that in their White Working class heartlands in the North their voters will vote for them automatically and forever. This is wrong, Labour are widely hated it's just they are not quite as hated as the Tories.
The people have been waiting for an alternative, and with UKIP it looks like that alternative had finally arrived."
*chortle*
The first claim by British Influence under their "Tearing apart UKIPs EU Myth Busting" is an outright lie.
They say:
"We have a trade deficit in goods with the EU. When services are included we have a trade surplus, so we wouldn’t be in the best negotiating position."
This is simply untrue. We do not have a trade surplus with the EU with or without services being included. According to the 2013 Pink Book, our current account with the EU27 is now showing a deficit of more than £90 billion
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/bop/united-kingdom-balance-of-payments/2013/rpt-the-pink-book-2013--part-3--geographical-breakdown.html#tab-Chapter-9--Geographical-breakdown-of-the-current-account
Not surprising that people who want us to stay in the EU are having to resort to outright lies when the rest of their argument is so weak.
*chortle*
We all have a direct financial interest in fracking in this country.
http://dailym.ai/KB05XI
Read, especially if you fancy a £1 million pound crystal bathtub.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
Two parties falling when the UKIP vote gets high enough, not one.
I suppose if the lib dem civil war gets bad enough it's conceivable that could give labour a bit of a bump but the damage from that, though severe, will likely be internal rather than splash headlines and big instant VI moves. (the lib dems aren't exactly doing well anyway)
The Kippers are always more likely to benefit if it was Cameron rather than Clegg caught up in some convoluted and seemingly endless scandal.
What labour are banking on is what Cammie himself has said. If the kippers aren't under 5% come 2015 then it won't really matter what the headline VI is before that. Even a small crossover won't save the tories unless that kipper vote is still smashed down to below 5%.
Which looks pretty damn unlikely right now. As the tory backbenchers know full well and quite clearly fear.
He's also spoken out against an increase in the minimum wage.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/369058/bill-gates-cautions-proponents-minimum-wage-increase-andrew-johnson
Good to see David Blunkett sticking it to (Tory secret agent?) Russell Brand. Whatever you think of their records in government it's nice to see elder statesmen using their position to raise issues they consider important given they no longer needing to take into account political calculations. Mr Major being another fine example. Of course the case of Mr T.Blair who only seems to pop up nowadays if there is a war he wants to sell us, is a regrettable exception.
The view from inside the Cameroon bunker must be a very curious one indeed if all they have to cheer about is that the only thing keeping them in government is a lib dem party seemingly locked in a civil war and endless internal strife.
How very unlike Cast Iron Cammie and his own MPs. They always trust him to tell the truth, don't they?
A YouGov poll suggests that most Lib Dem voters want him to walk away from the party. While 32 per cent said they thought he should “remain in the Liberal Democrats as it has not been proved that he’s done anything wrong”, 47 per cent believed that he should leave because “he is damaging the wider organisation”.
Among Men 40% say he should stay, 39% say leave
Among women 43% say he should go, 27% say he should stay
Among all voters 41% say he should leave the party, 33% say he should stay.
The row risks damaging the party’s image. The poll showed that the party is seen as only slightly less sleazy than the Conservatives, with 42 per cent regarding the Tories as sleazy and 41 per cent regarding the Lib Dems the same way.
He just has to apologise. No one will notice him sitting on the Lib Dem benches in the Lords and no one is suggesting that he should return to a position of executive power in the party.
The solution to this problem is for Rennard to do the right thing and then everyone to shut up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25830617
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/01/economist-explains-13
Lets all laugh at the broken, sleazy Lib Dems on the slide.
http://themoneyconverter.com/GBP/THB.aspx
It’s interesting to compare the ABC1C2DE social categorisations of people (which is based on their occupation) with their self-perceptions:
35% of people in “middle class occupations” consider themselves working class, and
28% of people in “working class occupations” consider themselves middle class.
Obviously the ABC classification is pretty crude in its own way, but it’s also a sign of perceptions of social class are an awful lot more complicated than people’s own current occupation."
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8598