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A significant proportion of Brits don’t support the monarchy – politicalbetting.com
A significant proportion of Brits don’t support the monarchy – politicalbetting.com
One of the growing issues that is emerging has been the arrest by police of those who are demonstrating against the notion of monarchy. This happened again in Edinburgh today and I for one feel very uneasy about it.
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And first by the way.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/12/its-worth-the-wait-queueing-all-night-to-pay-respects-to-the-queen
Sorry to disappoint but while Diana's son and heirs are in line the monarchy is secure.
As far as KCIII is concerned he's going to be an unpopular monarch but the people will tolerate him while they wait for William and Catherine - the true heirs - to ascend.
Presumably the arrest in Edinburgh happened under Scottish breach of the peace laws? I was looking that up earlier and it says this:
"In Scottish law, you can be charged with breaching the peace if you engage in any kind of disorderly behaviour which would have a negative effect on other people who bore witness to it."
I suppose the key word here is what constitutes "disorderly" ? The young mans actions would certainly have had a "negative effect" on the Royal party walking behind the coffin as well as the mourners witnessing the procession.
Does that constitute being disorderly?
Regardless Liz should keep her head down and say nothing...
The numbers are ok though, at 62%.
To protestors, now is not the time, while feelings run high. To Liz Truss, don't get involved.
Perhaps William and Catherine should voluntarily abdicate in favour of George who would be 31 - a new young dynamic King to take Global Britain into the mid 21st century and beyond.
Ah sorry had missed the skipped generation. But George sadly is likely to take after his parents
If a Republic means I don't have to hear from Gyles Brandreth ever again.
Nor an "hilarious' anecdote from the World #153 golfer about when he met HMQ.
Then that's good enough for me.
Prince George: Marry? Never! I'm a gay bachelor, Blackadder. I'm a roarer, a rogerer, a gorger, and a puker. I can't marry. I'm young, I'm firm buttocked, I'm, I'm...
Blackadder: Broke.
Prince George: Well, yes, I suppose.
Blackadder: And don't forget, sir, that the modern church smiles on roaring and gorging within wedlock. And indeed rogering is keenly encouraged.
Prince George: And the puking?
Blackadder: I believe it is still very much down to the conscience of the individual church-goer.
However if next Monday any Republicans turn their back on the Queen's coffin or protest at her funeral never mind the police, the crowd will angrily turn on them too!
As I said on the previous thread the policing deserves criticism but it’s not as if the new king was standing in the background shouting “off with their heads”. It strikes me as a rather over zealous reading of public order laws.
So it is. I'm off to bed.
Good night.
I assume more upto date polling will come along, but I am sceptical that, notwithstanding the wall to wall coverage and the inappropriate arresting of protesters, that the popularity of becoming a republic has grown
If republicans like you are so desperate to get rid of the King you can vote Green, as Caroline Lucas' party are pro a republic and abolishing the monarchy
People are generally fair-minded and wish him all the best but... he's a dud. An inherently selfish, grand, entitled, head in the clouds fuddy duddy. Mean to his staff and yes a dreadful husband and father too.
He will never be more popular than he is right now and it's going to be down-hill all the way from here for him I'm afraid.
That said, they obviously shouldn’t be prosecuted for any crime.
If you want to do it wait until the coronation next Spring, I will then of course also go to London to boo you and cheer King Charles and the Queen Consort!
In more recent years, children have been less prominent in political ads here, and there has been something of a truce covering young children, with attacks on them thought to be out of bounds.
I don't know, by the way, whether the pattern I have seen here in Washington state is common in the US. The junior senator from Illinois, Thai-American and Democrat, Tammy Duckworth, has, to say the least, an interesting family story to tell. She lost both legs in combat in Iraq in 2006. And after that, with the help of IVF: "Duckworth and [her husband] Bowlsbey have two daughters: Abigail, who was born in 2014,[134] and Maile, born in 2018.[135] Maile's birth made Duckworth the first U.S. senator to give birth while in office.[135][136] Former senator Daniel Akaka helped the couple with the naming of both daughters; Akaka died April 6, 2018, three days before Maile was born.[137] Shortly after Maile's birth, a Senate rule change permitted senators to bring children under one year old on the Senate floor to breastfeed.[86] This was a symbolic moment for Duckworth, as she had previously introduced the bipartisan Friendly Airports for Mothers (FAM) Act to ensure new mothers access to safe, clean and accessible lactation rooms in airports.[48] The day after the rule change, Duckworth brought Maile with her during the casting of a Senate vote, making Duckworth the first senator to cast a vote while holding a baby."
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Duckworth
It wouldn't be hard to make a political ad featuring her family.
https://twitter.com/neilphauer/status/1569433181119737857
Charles's primary role will be to be the representative on earth of the late Queen. I am sure he would like to turn some kind of page, but I am not so sure that will happen.
(Yes, yes, fill in your own Vote Leave or Yes Campaign joke here if you want; but the point is they were both structured campaigns).
Carry on grovelling.
But as usual you don't answer my point - which is that representative democracy is only permitted when it suits you. That's pretty subversive.
My suspicion is that the majority of normal folk will struggle to fathom what he's on about half the time. The references to Shakespeare in his speeches since ascending do not bode well...
“A period of quiet mourning for the Queen is fine, but using that period to cement Charles’ accession as King and cracking down on any dissent to the accession as disrespectful is outrageous.”
Couldn’t agree more.
This stinks.
Well done. Brave of you to take that stance on today's internet. For the avoidance of doubt, I disagree. And to satisfy your rather bizarre curiosity about my private life, I have technically committed adultery, but only after a decree nisi which I don't think really counts.
I'm reminded of Christopher Hitchens' comments about televangelists.
Plus let us note the only western nation without any form of universal public healthcare is a republic, the USA
Having said that, it's hilarious to see it's the types who are most angry about this are the ones who cheer on Christian preachers in the street being arrested for their comments and so late. Not that they will see that, they are too self-absorbed.
Charles' role is to represent the nation as a ceremonial figurehead head of state at home and abroad.
If the population are so dumbed down they do not even understand any references to Shakespeare despite years of secondary education that says more about them than our King.
Not sure how that will look in a year and more though!
But I agree. I'm looking forward to seeing what he gets up to.
Same with Liz Truss.
Clean slate for the both of them.