As can be seen from the Ipsos chart Starmer has a net 13%+ rating (40% positive less 27% negative )on this measure from Ipsos in a poll carried out entirely after Truss became PM. She on the other hand is on a net minus 2% so the gap between them is fifteen percentage points.
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In a few centuries, President of COP26 will become one of these sinecures, like Lord Privy Seal and Captain of the Honourable Gentlemen-at-Arms, whose original purpose has been long forgotten but which remain permanent features of the political landscape.
https://twitter.com/yuanyi_z/status/1567247433201074177?cxt=HHwWgoC-sZTP_b8rAAAA
It’s explicitly clear from the avoidance of ministerial statement, they don’t have a plan with details they can share with MPs and media and field questions on, so my question to PB is a fair one. at what point will the Tory Party have a crisis plan for households and businesses they can explain and defend all the details of in a parliamentary debate? Will they have this before the recess and party conferences?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62812442
However if Truss' plans to freeze energy bills later this month go down well that could soon be cut
I mean, take the Lady Usher of the Black Rod. The official duties are apparently controlling access to and maintaining order within the House of Lords and its precincts. How boring to drop a silly title and ceremonial stuff for someone like the Director of Ingress and Egress or whatever.
Dust off the 80s class warfare plans and activate Angie. We are at defcon flat cap 'n whippet.
O.....kay........
How can any party leader have a good day in parliament, when they have blatantly nailed themselves to that position?
I haven't watched PMQs (even the snippets on the news). I suspect, as others have said, the initial civility won't last and we'll be back to the usual slanging match.
I'd have thought your first PMQs would be the easiest for any Prime Minister as you have the advantages of time and novelty. Starmer will no doubt have learned plenty from the initial skirmishes and we'll see how his approach varies from that he came to apply to Johnson in the coming weeks.
So, on to the great Energy Price Freeze - any hope I had the Truss administration might have been worth supporting is immediately blown apart by this piece of stupidity in extremis.
Having read yesterday there was a notion of recouping some of the loan by defraying future price reductions it now seems Truss and Kwarteng haven't got the cojones to even do that. Instead, in pure Sunak style (the irony not lost on me), the whole lot (£100 billion, £200 billion, take your pick) is going to be met by borrowing so future generations will be paying for this nonsense which means they won't be able to do the things they want because they'll be paying billions in debt interest we will have passed on as our legacy.
It is short-termist, a panicked solution predicated on 3-4 months of a zombie Government which did nothing and prepared for nothing. Ideologically, even a windfall tax on the energy companies isn't on the table so they will make grotesque profits and pay their CEOs grotesque salaries which will regularly be pointed out.
There's little or no incentive to use less gas or electricity - why bother? The Government's going to pay the bill - more accurately, our children and grandchildren will end up paying.
It's simple - there's no time or thought to see if those who can afford to pay the increased energy bills could actually do so - the billionaire in his mansion, the poor man at his gate - all will be treated the same. It's equality, Jim, but not as we know it.
To add to this legacy, we'll have Ben Wallace taking more money for Defence (you do know there's a war on?) and Truss angling for her tax cut. It's obvious the public sector is going to be looking at some very tough decisions this year complicated further by the cost of the changes to the social care legislation.
Toynbee - Guardian.
Hmmm....
Just enjoying the twilight now. The delicate dark blue light over the trees. The swallows that whirl in the dusty, cooling light, scented with the first fruits of autumn. The sense of summer handing the baton to the poetics of the Fall
He fell out of his watchtower at Auschwitz.
I think the irony is lost on you actually, you do need to watch PMQs.
The irony not just of a politician presiding over the biggest tax take since the war, who has been in government the last 10 years, ticking off the opposition for a windfall tax proposal, but her own solution to the crisis now means working family’s paying the £200B back in TAX and on BILLS for decades.
I was left open mouthed. The irony is just INSANE.
Yet everyone parrots, didn’t she do well, what a great day she had.
It was surreal. She was like some Spike Milligan sketch - Maggie Thatcher in a Dalek.
“I. Am. A. Dalek. Thatcher. You - will - be - disgraced.”
I'm not entirely convinced - Margaret Thatcher has North Sea Oil receipts and later privatisation receipts.
Sweden then follows France and Italy and Poland with the main centre right party overtaken by a party of the populist Nationalist right
As I say, the irony isn't lost on me. Here's a former Chief Secretary to the Treasury showing a level of fiscal irresponsibility I had thought reserved only for Labour Chancellors and some Councillors of my acquaintance.
She has mortgaged the future to save the present and her worthless political skin. For that alone, she and her Party deserve to be cast out (very Biblical I know but there's plenty of faith in the new Cabinet) for a couple of generations.
We can but hope - what she has perpetrated makes Liam Byrne's note in 2010 seem almost jocular in comparison.
SDLP MP Claire Hanna - ERG takeover of Northern Ireland Office ‘totally obnoxious’.
South Belfast Hanna has raised serious questions about the policy direction of Truss’ administration following the appointment of Steve Baker and Chris Heaton Harris to NI minister and NI SoS
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1567560703061495808
I don’t mind the Steve Baker appointment. It will either teach him that things are far more complicated than he has ever realised, which will be no bad thing. Or, he’ll continue his hard man of Brexit routine and fall flat on his arse, in which case he’ll be sacrificed. Babies.
https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1567557618142531589
There is a lot of comment on the diverse ethnicities in the cabinet, and also their private educations, but what struck me most was that so many of them had made a fortune in Londons financial services, as too had many Sunakites.
Nothing wrong with the City having a voice, but is such a preponderance of cosmpolitan posho metropolitan financiers running the country quite what Hartlepool and Stoke on Trent had in mind when they voted Brexit and then Johnson?
Naples are tearing Liverpool apart
First step: everyone cancel their direct debits. (Those who are naive enough to have any.)
The City won't like it up 'em.
Second step: at a prearranged time, everyone withdraw £100 or however much they can afford, in cash, from their bank accounts.
There's what we have which means everyone will be helped whether they are huge users of electricity or gas, multi-billion pound organisations or individuals or the very poorest. It's equality, Jim, but not as we know it as I said earlier.
Now, for the controversial bit - yes, a lot of people and businesses would struggle to pay the projected increases in gas and electricity bills but that doesn't mean there aren't those who could pay and many others who could pay some part of the increase. This didn't start last week - this has been on the cards for months but the current Government's own self-indulgence has prevented it examining solutions which would mean those who could afford to pay more did so and thereby didn't mean borrowing so much for future generations to have to repay.
No one should freeze to death - of course - but the converse is also true, There are plenty who could pay a little or indeed a lot more but there's no effort to try to get them to do so. It's so much easier to kick the can down the road after months of internal Conservative wrangling has left us without an adequate plan.
At least Labour are trying to mitigate the situation - I agree it's a drop in the ocean if we get well north of £100 billion required to support this scheme.
Also where has 200 billion borrowing come from paying it back v the bills which has been ruled out
I expect tomorrow business will receive similar support but directed at small businesses with different schemes for large companies, whose shareholders will be required to take the hit before intervention
It is true the public want a windfall tax but Truss needs to stick to her guns as the windfall tax is a political ruse which raises very little compared to the message it sends to these companies that we need their investments in billions into the North Sea
I thought Truss response to Blackford was excellent saying he wants a windfall tax on profits from the companies he wants to stop producing oil and gas in the North Sea
Then Alentejo black pig cheeks with confit tomatoes - ALSO LOVELY
WHAT IS GOING ON IN PORTUGAL
Tattersall handed over the gloves to Tom Kohler-Cadmore, who immediately stumped Josh Bohannon for five. Then the young Yorkshire skipper put himself on to bowl and had Jennings caught at backward point by Coad, whose trousers fell down.
Honestly, I knew Yorkshire were in a mess, but I had no idea they craved this level of exposure!
I liked a post on the prior thread, as it was an interesting post (the one with the explanation that the photo is a forgery was interesting)..
I don't think you're a Nazi because of what was obviously a parody image. I do think you (at least pretend to) have fascist tendencies due to your support for Trump, even post 6 January, calls for the woke or scientists etc to be shot or imprisoned, and wanting boats to drown.
Not a good start to this season at all.
Where the right are making gains like in Italy or France or Sweden it is generally the Nationalist right not the centre right doing it. The next European Parliament election is not until 2024 but I would expect the Social Democrats, Greens and right nationalist blocks to make gains at the EPP's expense
This is your most challenging 'Where's Hitler?' yet. Is he under the tomatoes?
F*** Labourite parliamentarism. No amount of questions in the House will achieve anything.
Can't pay? Won't pay! It's inevitable that some people will suss that that's the way forward.
My objection is it is all being thrown onto future generations in the form of borrowing which will mean higher debt interest repayments. Do you think that's sensible?
My second objection is it doesn't encourage anyone to use less gas or electricity. Why should they? The Government will carry on paying the excess.
Klopp to follow Tuchel ?
Cornish news (re Trevalga estate). (There is a decimal point missing in the URL.)
Labours plan is even more regressive, at least the Conservative plan keeps the direct £400 subsidy, helping those paying the least the most (encouraging frugality and broadly helping the poorer a little more)
The upshot is we need the full detail and how it impacts the outlook, bloomberg yesterday suggested it might avoid a UK recession - growth projections then impact the long term debt, interest and thus effect of whatever the final plan is. Hopefully it supports small and medium business who Labour have simply ignored in this.
I also don't like the idea of piling all that debt on into the future but I do at least have an alternative plan - except it would probably destroy North Sea investment completely and make us even more in hoc to foreign gas imports. Which is why I don't criticise the apparent Truss plan in the way you and Moonrabbit do.
Wiki:
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if they’re not busy hitting their heads with half bricks they could probably locate Himmler under the Rosemary
The black pork cheek is fucking BRILLIANT, by the way
And the cap as proposed is about 100% above last years level, so still high enough to encourage people to do any savings they can do, without being devastatingly expensive.
Well done, the BBC - finally.
I really don't see much alternative to rationing in some form. Hopefully not the even blunter instrument of rolling blackouts.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs-liz-truss-keir-starmer-windfall-tax-tories-labour-b1023899.html
The Standard wonders if Liz Truss's principled opposition to a windfall tax might actually be her stumbling into a trap.
Cap prices
Put the upper rate of income tax up
Don’t overly complicate the energy policy
Of course there are very many businesses and individuals and families who would struggle with the projected price cap increases - I'm not disputing that. However, I'd also contend there are those who could pay the increases or at least part of said.
There has not been the work done or the time put in to coming up with a solution whereby those able to pay the additional energy prices can and do - even if we can defray 25% of the borrowing we will be doing future generations a favour.
The other issue I have is that as well as this (the importance and necessity of which I entirely understand) we have a Government which seems to want to increase spending on defence AND cut taxes.
To have said, for example, "because of the current crisis over energy bills, we will defer increases in defence spending and any tax reductions for at least 12 months" would have struck a note of fiscal sobriety and sense but I've not heard that.
I recall a past Prime Minister saying we should live within our means and being warmly applauded when so doing.
If you fall for a joke and thereby make yourself look like a tiny bit of a tit, just admit it
Don’t get all angry and accusatory, or deny it ever happened, because that makes you look like more of a tit. This is a basic life lesson, I would have thought. Because, in the end, it IS just a joke
That is all. Now I am off to watch Vikings Valhalla
Love it when two unrelated consecutive posts juxtapose so beautifully.
Price is an impersonal rationing device that allocates a scarce commodity between users in an optimal fashion, encouraging parsimony and penalising profligacy. But you prefer the arbitrary whim of a politician or bureaucrat to do the job!