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What a curry on – politicalbetting.com
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer pledges to offer his resignation if he is issued a fixed penalty notice over last year's 'beergate' incident – but adds that he is "absolutely clear that no laws were broken".Live: https://t.co/MAWFLvHs5s? Sky 501, Virgin 602 and Freeview 233 pic.twitter.com/Vhoonw5Vim
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I don't wish to alarm PBers but OGH is currently on a short break, and I'm looking after PB for the next few days.
Sods law says SKS and Raynor are both going to get FPNs. Boris will then quickly announce a general election because if he doesn't do it now the situation ain't going to get any better for him...
Especially on my watch.
Plus i dont Boris Johnson to be her final PM.
Coup d'etat PB-style? Does yon TSE(us) have a mean and hungry look?
20 May 2020 bring your own booze work event
18 June 2020 Hannah Young's leaving work event
19 June 2020 Big Dog's birthday work event
13 November 2020 Lee Cain leaving work event
13 November 2020 Abba work event
15 December 2020 Christmas quiz work event
17 December 2020 Christmas work event
17 December 2020 Covid boss leaving work event
17 December 2020 Private Secretary leaving work event
18 December 2020 Christmas work event
14 January 2021 Two more leaving work events
16 April 2021 Another two leaving work events (the night before the DofE's work event)
"What Sir @Keir_Starmer said was deeply inappropriate; the whole thing is utterly preposterous. But to undermine the presumption of innocence & put the police under pressure is wrong. A former DPP should know that"
https://twitter.com/AlStewartOBE/status/1523692183341060096
From that thread - interesting point on Starmer & presumption of innocence:
By indicating that he will accept the decision of the Durham police and accept an FPN notwithstanding that he has reached the conclusion he did not commit an offence.
If that is his conclusion, he should refuse an FPN and insist on a prosecution and defend himself if prosecuted.
https://twitter.com/Francis_Hoar/status/1523698959734124544
There's quite a lot in this "nothing to see here"....
Can some of his supporters explain how that shows his ‘integrity’?
Who hold themselves to the highest standards.
Who put the country first.
Britain will always get that from me. https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1523700146751557632/video/1
If SKS gets fined he will resign.
BoZo did not resign.
OK, Carlotta. You win!
Lol.
If and when the Sue Gray report appears he's in deeper trouble.
I still expect him to refuse to resign but it's certainly going to get lively.
What do we think? is this the real reason? (sorry if this was discussed on last thread?)
3 possibility's spring to mind.
a) Maybe this was because of the weather but it does not seem to be that bad to me, occasional light rain, with intermittent clawed and low winds, not the best but still, that sounds flyable to me, and a non aviation person?
b) To many planes have been shot down/damaged/needed for operations.
c) The kremlin seeing possible defeat on the horizon has decided to play down the war and particular the whole Z thing, and the highlight of the fly-passed was going to be a big Z formation.
And betting.
Wouldn't make any sense, but I can easily see it.
I think Keir will come to regret this gamble. And so will a number of his colleagues...
https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/politics/179688/starmer-ill-quit-if-fined-over-beergate
Keir will not resign.
Full credit tho, Boris has avoided an ouster.
Sue Gray‘s report could find him overseeing a mass orgy of coke-snorting dwarves, and Tory MPs won’t summon up the courage to shift him.
This, despite appalling council elections too.
It’s been an absolute master class.
Some say Boris is a good campaigner, personally I don’t think he is; he spent the last election campaign refusing to do interviews and hiding in a fridge.
But he is a world-class operator. Maybe the best the country’s ever seen.
https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1523697132209082368
https://twitter.com/carolynharris24/status/1523682371153051648
https://twitter.com/peterkyle/status/1523687368800178176
https://twitter.com/CatMcKinnell/status/1523701795100700674
While Tory MPs are reduced to whining "It's not fair..."
Delingpole, who graduated from the University of Durham last year, was at his student house in the city, close to a venue where the Labour leader held a political campaign event on 30 April 2021.
According to individuals with knowledge of the video’s creation, it was Delingpole who spotted the Labour leader through the window of Durham Miners Hall. Starmer was drinking with a team of campaigners eating a takeaway curry at a time when the country was still under partial lockdown and large indoor social gatherings were banned.
The short video was subsequently passed to the anti-lockdown activist Laurence Fox, who tweeted it out to his followers.
Mainstream media outlets largely ignored the footage for nine months, but as public fury over parties in Downing Street escalated over the winter the Daily Mail put the Starmer video on its front page in January and accused the Labour leader of hypocrisy.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/09/revealed-student-ivo-delingpole-james-breitbart-beergate-video-that-threatens-to-sink-starmer
After all, he's put so much effort into constructing cathedrals of news out of a few Lego blocks of actuality.
And then some twit got the police involved, so it all resolves into fined or not fined.
Except for the isolated pockets who are today bleating how unfair it is of Starmer to have taken some sort of principled stand.
I mean I'll do time if I'm convicted of fraud. I wouldn't claim that statement gave me integrity
I just wonder if SKS realised he needs someone else to propel Labour to power. It's quite a neat way to step aside: by piling pressure back on Boris Johnson.
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1523687586241429510
Clip from "Is Paris Burning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYMX12KgiYk&t=3s
He opened pandora's box of COVID rules alongside Boris. He's in the special category of arsehole just the same where any minor infraction of the law or even guidance means it's a resigning issue. I've said plenty of times that Boris should have resigned once the party stuff came out, that the MPs should remove him, that his position is untenable, I quit the Tory party when Dom went for his joyride through Durham. I am very consistent on this position - those who make the rules can't break them. Keir Starmer voted in favour of the second lockdown, he voted in favour of the government extending it, he voted in favour of all the idiotic rules. All while there was enough opposition within Tory ranks to force the government to back down. He is as responsible for the lamentable state of affairs we had from February to May.
As I've said plenty of times today - the best outcome is Starmer being forced to resign and bringing Boris down with him. Neither are fit to be PM and clearly think the rules are for the little people. His tawdry actions today to try and force the Durham police into a corner of clearing him shows, once again, that he is unfit to be PM, it's a move worthy of Boris.
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Even arch-Tory Adam "Bunter" Boulton has been shocked at how far down the GBNews rabbit hole Brazier has fallen.
Either they had insufficient aircraft and pilots, insufficient senior officers to run the event, or maybe it was just the weather. Perhaps they were out seeding the clouds overnight, just to make sure it was too bad?
A massive damp squib for Putin though, which will warm Ukranian hearts tonight. There were rumours about, that Putin was going to do something very stupid today.
Too bad it’s obscured a bit by Cummings’s cryptic tweet style.
I too want Keir gone, I don’t think he is up to it.
But not on trumped up charges.
Has this rule changed, and do we think SKS might try the same trick?
LOL that the Tory-media nexus (Carrie, Cole, Wickham) are in total panic now that their operation to smear Keir is accidentally putting pressure back on Boris.
How on earth would he face the electorate on that basis?
The whole point is to show up BoJo.
Now Johnson is fxcked regardless of what happens .
# Pray4Dan
In this sort of case, the Police can issue an FPN and the recipient can pay it. But all that is is the Police saying, "We're minded to prosecute you on the basis of that we have ample evidence against you and are pretty sure a court would convict, but you can save yourself and us time and money (and a criminal record for you) by paying a penalty". The receipient is perfectly entitled to then say "I won't pay and will take my chances in court" (or to put their hands up and pay - but it's their choice).
There really is no such thing as the Police "finding" someone has committed an offence but not issuing an FPN.
You are very certain he didn't break the rules, why? Because he's said he didn't? Rishi said he didn't break the rules and he still got a FPN. Rishi, despite everything, doesn't strike me as a party animal or someone who would simply cover up his own known wrongdoing by lying about it. Just because Starmer doesn't think he broke the rules it doesn't necessarily mean he hasn't.
Plus it kills 'integrity' such as that exists - I'm resigning, but only technically, I'm reapplying for the same job I just said I had to quit because of my actions.
That will be interesting. I suspect they shouldn't appoint anyone who is planning to run. So some elder statesman/woman? Marge Beckett once again?