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    Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 8,845
    Aslan said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico679 said:

    What’s happened in France with the traditional left and right is quite extraordinary. This leaves France one election away from a possible hard left v hard right Presidential battle .

    LREM has really become a vehicle for Macron alone , with the term limits who takes up that mantle . Will LREM even survive post the Macron era if he does get over the line this time .

    Clearly there is an appetite in France for a more centrist party or candidate but the difficulty is who can take over that post Macron .

    There is an argument for Melenchon supporters that the best way to defeat liberal capitalism is to get rid of Macron, even if that means President Le Pen.

    That then sets up a Nationalist v Socialist, Le Pen v Melenchon battle next time.

    A similar argument saw a few Sanders supporters stay home or even vote for Trump in 2016. Here too we even arguably had our Nationalist v Socialist election already in 2019 with Boris v Corbyn
    No,no,no!

    Your fixation with far right candidates beating Centrists is troubling me now. A Le Pen victory benefits no one but Le Pen and Putin. Do you seriously consider that if these crazies gain power they are going to relinquish it to Communists?
    HYUFD is autocratic far right, so I don't see what the surprise is.
    I consider myself far to the right of HYUFD or would if he actually had any ideals. Please dont label him as far right he disgusts us
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,280
    edited April 2022

    Foxy said:

    https://twitter.com/SamJRushworth/status/1514720619463688194?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

    'Very clear massive #LabourGain in West Auckland, Durham County Council by-election tonight. Results not out yet, but it's obvious.
    @britaineIects

    Congratulations to Labour's George Smith.'

    Cue BJO to tell us why this is all Starmer's fault.
    Little noticed by-election in the heart of the red wall tonight: Labour gain in West Auckland ward of County Durham, following sudden death of incumbent Tory councillor.

    Independent: 187
    Conservative: 554
    Labour: 956

    Doesn’t bode well for Wakefield by-election
    Gary was tipping it as a possible Tory hold earlier. They weren't annihilated but it's a solid margin.
    Yes I suppose I err towards caution having got the Northumberland one wrong. I got the High Peak right last week possibly because I have local knowledge of Buxton.

    Perhaps Labour is doing a lot better in County Durham now, Labour also gained Ferryhill recently which was another split ward in 2021.
    It’s mid term of the most pathetic government in history. labour should be hitting it out the park.
    I think this is a bit disingenuous. You have to factor in where Labour are coming from. Jeremy Corbyn was pure poison to most ordinary voters. Labour are coming from a 32% result just over 2 years ago, with its lowest proportion of seats since 1935.

    That we are even talking about the possibility of an outright Labour majority shows how far Keir Starmer has taken the party.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,048

    It sounds like Russia has fired a lot of missiles at various targets in Ukraine tonight. Parts of Kyiv are without power.

    Not taken the loss of their boat well....

    Lashing out in a defiant display might not be the best use of their resources, however.
    They seem to have fired them all over Ukraine, from west to east. I do question if this is the best use of Russia's rapidly-diminishing stock of missiles - I'd have expected them to concentrate more on eastern Ukraine, where they're actually fighting.

    Beau on Youtube called the Moskva the 'Snake Island Memorial Reef'. :)

    I find that hilarious, but it's also tempered by the fact it looks likely that hundreds of sailors have died. I believe Russia have claimed they all got off; I would suggest any attack large enough to destroy the ship would have had *some* casualties. And Turkey claim to have only picked up 54 out of around 500.
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    edited April 2022
    The evil orcs are trolling..

    @buch10_04
    Если Украина продолжит провокации с атаками на российские города, то россия будет вынуждена объявить войну - Песков
    🤔
    If Ukraine continues provocations with attacks on Russian cities, Russia will be forced to declare war - Peskov
    🤔
    https://twitter.com/buch10_04/status/1514713683515039758
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,709
    The Russian reaction to the sinking is extraordinary - “the special military operation is over; this means war…”
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1514766062771875851

    The logic there is almost too fncked up to comprehend, but it does strongly suggest that the Russian public have no idea of the scale of their losses to date if this incident is such a trigger. The desperate anger is palpable.

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    JACK_WJACK_W Posts: 651
    This thread has sunk ..
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    CorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorseBattery Posts: 21,436
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    PensfoldPensfold Posts: 191
    Nigelb said:

    The Russian reaction to the sinking is extraordinary - “the special military operation is over; this means war…”
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1514766062771875851

    The logic there is almost too fncked up to comprehend, but it does strongly suggest that the Russian public have no idea of the scale of their losses to date if this incident is such a trigger. The desperate anger is palpable.

    The "Moscow" sank because of an accident on board and not because of Ukraine missiles. And this makes us so angry we are going to bomb hell out of Kiev.
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