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By 62 to 26 those polled tonight say Johnson should go – politicalbetting.com
By 62 to 26 those polled tonight say Johnson should go – politicalbetting.com
?SNAP POLL?We interviewed over 1000 people this evening after the Sue Gray report was released. Key findings below… ?1) The public still want the PM to resign (62%, -1) and not stay in his job (26%,+1).But Tory voters are divided 50% to 44% in favour of him staying. pic.twitter.com/mPqMpod6FU
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Then we get some shit from MPs saying how they’ve got “the Boris they love”.
All Brits
Should resign: 63% (+1 from 25th Jan)
Should remain: 25% (n/c)
Con voters
Resign: 38% (n/c)
Remain: 51% (+2)
Lab voters
Resign: 89% (+1)
Remain: 4% (-1)
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/01/31/snap-poll-63-britons-still-want-boris-johnson-resi?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=johnson_partygate_snap_poll https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1488265110724530176/photo/1
Parliament
The Queen
The BBC
The Union
The Supreme Court
The National Trust
This is not your gran’s Conservative Party.
Indeed, they appear to detest this country.
https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1488265579832258563
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All those knock-offs are going to be getting more letters (from lawyers) than Graham Brady....
Ain’t happening.
Scotland 83%
London 82%
North 71%
Rest of South 67%
Midlands/Wales 67%
If you want the Union to stay, is BJ having his drinks parties going to make you think "you know what, I'll vote for independence?". Especially given all the question marks over Nicola S's own behaviour and what was exposed in the Salmond case? Yes, people might vote for another party as the main Unionist party but their #1 motivation factor is the...Union, not BJ.
- “He, and notables around him, seem to go out their way to prove everything the SNP say about Westminster.”
Even if we do see significant changes in vote share, most 4 member wards (which are mainly in the central belt) which voted 2 SNP 1 Lab 1 Con in 2017 will largely stay the same.
It would be interesting to compare per country number of deaths before say 01/04/21 (ie deaths before widespread vaccination) and number of deaths after.
Boris Johnson’s cabinet has been thrown into disarray after two of his senior ministers caught Covid-19 within 24 hours of one another
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/31/liz-truss-nahim-zahawi-test-positive-covid-19-just-hours-apart/
(Well I won't, but the younger posters will).
It may well sway some of the more undecideds floating in the middle. I daresay a lot of those would have already been swayed anyway just by "Boris Johnson: Prime Minister", but it all adds up.
There's a reason Douglas Ross and most of the SCon MSPs came out against him even before today. He certainly isn't helping the cause, that much is true.
The Labour lead was also still under 10% with RedfieldWilton today as well and even Sunak still trailed Starmer as preferred PM.
Unless those numbers change, Boris is safe
- English Nationalist, not One Nation
- Revolutionary, not Conservative
- High tax/high debt, not Friedman
- State control, not free market
- Social engineering, not conservatism
- Nasty, not paternal
- Reactive, not confident
- Populist, not principled
- Clown, not competence
- Degenerate, not moral
- Cash for pals, not good governance
- Fiscal spaffing, not fiscal moderation
- Fuck business, not pro business
- Proroguing parliament, not the rule of law
- Lying to the monarch, not respecting institutions
- Authoritarian, not liberal
- Corruption, not ethics
- Second jobs, not public service
- Serving clients, not constituents
- Peppa Pig, not promoting productivity
- Cokeheads, not sober
- Law-breakers, not law enforcers
- Presidential system, not constitutional monarchy
- Sovereign party, not sovereign parliament
The only constants are the blue rosettes, greed, lies and jingoism.
The American colonists did not have MPs like the Scots either before their revolt against British rule
If you want to blame someone who doomed the Union, look to Blair and the Labour Party in general during that time.
https://twitter.com/ulrichspeck/status/1488268555409838084?s=21
Maybe Putin had been expecting a call from someone else, who had to cancel?
Devolution, as structured, was/is a disaster for the Union, although this only became apparently about 10 years ago.
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1488271083081977860?s=20&t=F9bBDBPcdUxlDlY0KH-bGQ
Wasn't that just Wordle?
There are chronic divisons within the Conservative Party. It is not a happy camp. There is every likelihood there will be a highly destructive civil war when he goes so removing him is no small matter.
Nor will it help the country much to have a dysfunctional and divided Party running things for another two years.
It's a bit of a sorry outlook.
But it has to be done in a way that doesn’t undermine the centre.
What happens now is that essentially the devolved government gets money but no real tax raising powers. That creates an automatic lack of accountability and an incentive to bash the centre.
The jerry-rigged electoral system doesn’t help, either.
When did your own party last make “a positive case for the union”? 1958?
Boris sees Cummings as Iago, and - by crikey! - he must himself therefore be Othello!
It doesn’t make any sense, and comes across as another weird, narcissistic touch.
Or well he shouldn't have done.
Keeping BoZo doesn't help. He will need to be replaced. Doing that now is better than 2 weeks before the election.
The party will stay divided as long as he stays. Removing him is a necessary first step.
It's a bit of a sorry outlook indeed
We planned to open a Taiwanese bubble tea shop 20 years ago. Were told there was no market. So bottled it.
Though English devolutionists (like me) have to wrestle with the Prussian dilemma (England is too big unto itself to be devolved to), and the sovreigntist conundrum (English voters tend to be skeptical about most forms of devolution).
But yeah, totally agree.
1. It is hard to remove a PM from office who doesn’t want to go. With an inbuilt payroll vote, and so long as that vote stays loyal, it requires a substantial proportion of the backbench to openly rebel against the leadership.
2. Far easier is if the cabinet (or a good chunk of them) are on board. We’ve not seen any indication of that at the moment. I think there are several reasons for that, but the most important is that at present, the next leader will come from one of Truss or Rishi, and neither of them feels like it’s the right time for them to take over. For Truss, she wants to get more foreign secretary-ing under her belt, show she’s standing up to Putin, and either get a settlement through on NI or invoke article 16 (to either strengthen her Brexit creds or her “amazing dealmaker” creds, whichever is most expedient). Rishi doesn’t want the NI rise to affect his leadership campaign. It would be far easier if that’s all on the books and in the past than have to answer awkward questions about it in a campaign. Both of them are relative newcomers to the top of the party and haven’t built up a bedrock of MP support yet. And neither wants to preside over a gutting of Tory councillors in May if they can help it.
A number of the other cabinet members (JRM, Priti, Nadine) are probably going to get the sack when Boris goes. So there’s not a huge incentive for them to sharpen the knives.
3. A number of Tory MPs have not known the party in the Commons under anyone but Boris. The thought that two years after they won their seat that they’d be having to decide whether to VONC the leader wouldn’t have crossed their minds. This leads to…
4. Crushing, awful indecision (the Labour MP of 2008-2010 syndrome). They know he HAS to go, but because he has gotten away with it so far they have second-guessed themselves and paralysed the momentum. I think that’s where a lot of them are - they are now seeing all the different permutations play out in their heads and they just can’t make a strong, bold judgment call.
As you're so fond of saying, the views of non-Conservatives don't matter and in this instance the view of Conservative members and activists doesn't matter either and Conservative voters are an irrelevance. It's just down to the MPs themselves and as 1990 showed they can do what they like irrespective of what their associations think.
Remind me how many Conservative MPs were deselected for not publicly supporting Margaret Thatcher in 1990.
If stable government means tolerating a Prime Minister who breaks his own rules, then I think we need to introduce a bit more instability into the political system.
Which means that 37% want Boris to stay as PM and that is a clear majority
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"If it were done when ’tis done, then ’twere well
It were done quickly....."
Think it must have been a Private Eye story as it’s not in my popbitch archives.
But Scotland is a coherent country that votes differently from the rest of the UK a lot of the time and doesn't want to be told what to do by people they didn't vote for. Brexit is a perfect example of how toxic the Union can be for Scotland. I have come to the conclusion that Scottish independence is the only constitutional settlement that will work now, although there are lots of downsides to it for Scotland and England.
But I'm hooked.