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Another reason to lay Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
Another reason to lay Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
…and here are the British accents people like!Received Pronunciation: +31 net attractiveWelsh: +20Yorkshire: +15West Country: +13Geordie: +10 (And in terms of Irish accents: Northern Irish is +5 and Southern Irish is +42)https://t.co/y2RHxxay32 pic.twitter.com/gtmlworaQL
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He's standard S Lancashire woollyback.
Those Russian peacekeepers aren't doing a very good job of keeping the peace.
The Welsh Windbag sure swept all before him didn't he?
Piece of piss if you grew up there.
The Missus knows a Geordie from a Mackem from a Sanddancer from a Northumbrian instantly.
After 15 years it still sounds the same to me.
The nation is in thrall to the poshest. This I am afraid is a serious obstacle for the fair Angela
Why no Scots, except the obligatory weegie hate? Some Scots accents are lovely, and I thought they were generally rated most trustworthy, hence the banks having call centres there
I feel for Brummies. I actually like the accent and in general I think they’re quite down to earth.
I don’t dislike the Geordie or Welsh accents, but I do find it a bit annoying that they are seen as more acceptable to broadcasters.
The idea of a Scottish leader of any of the main 'British' parties does seem fanciful nowadays.
Gove.
Chortle.
A former Government Scientific Adviser did say that someone at the BBC had told him that they'd done some research on accents, and people found a West Country accent most calming and reassuring. So he suggested that we should really worry if an emergency announcement was made by someone with a West Country accent... Thankfully that expedient was never called for during the Covid Emergency.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potteries_dialect
Utterly smitten.
Also, there are lots of stories about past leaders that show that accents do matter, or at least are thought to matter. Didn't Thatcher have voice-coaching? Ed Miliband supposedly had nose surgery to tone down the whine of his voice. Appearances, and early impressions created by accents, do matter.
Inter alia myself and others have accurately predicted
1) The SNP majority in 2011
2) No would win in 2014.
3) The SNP tsunami of 2015
4) The SNP would lose their majority in 2016
5) The SCons would win more than 6 seats at GE2017 at 20/1
6) Alba wouldn't win a seat in 2021
7) The SNP wouldn't win a majority in 2021
Edit - Sort of on topic, I compare him to David Lloyd George at one point.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/08/world/europe/biden-boris-johnson-coronavirus-omicron.html
Mrs Pagel still not got the memo...
"A virus isn't endemic just cos a govt minister says it is and just cos people want it to be. The current pattern of waning vax, new immune evasive variants, and minimal public health response seem set to doom us to massive surges once or twice a year."
I came back from Atlanta aged 15, but lost my American accent within 6 months, apart from the odd word. I picked up a bit of a Kiwi twang working there, but only odd word persists.
I meet lots of Scots, Irish, Geordies and Scousers here who have kept their accents for decades, but Brum accents fade very quickly.
I quite like Brummies though, it is the part of England most like America in its attitude to wealth, its creation and its relation to social class.
iSAGE want us to use a LFT every time we leave the house.....will somebody think of the turtles, all that plastic.
I always wanted to sound like James Mason or Patrick McNee. My MP in North Herefordshire (Leominster) Peter Temple-Morris sounded like Patrick McNee, he was worth a vote just for that.
You said Jock affairs are not PB's strongest card, once again I proved you were talking shite.
I suppose I could remind everyone of your arrogant predictions days and weeks prior to to 18th September 2014?
Professor Christina Pagel says that "we're not learning, we're just pretending it's not happening".
Times Radio.
This crisis would never end if we listened to iSAGE.
But since it was against Dirty Leeds, hahahahhahaha.
Seriously VAR is a great thing just incompetently run by Mike Riley and his idiots.
Desperately quiet at Centre for Life. Only one other injectee in 10 minutes I've been here.
Everybody's got the jab or got COVID. Too early for the 4 weeks since infection rush.
That was what the nurse reckoned.
I agree with you a Scots accent rates extremely well. It was an advantage for Gordon Brown I think. The best is probably an Edinburgh accent.
In fact the Welsh Conservatives also had their best ever performance at a Senedd election last year against Drakeford Labour. Burnham on the other hand won even Tory Trafford in the last Greater Manchester Mayoral election.
While his northern accent may not be universally popular it is more popular in the redwall, the key swing region for Labour to prevent another Tory majority
Because it 'aint working at the moment.
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But behavioural changes are *part* of any story of what will happen. One can't say "I was right but behaviour changed". One's view of & predictions about behaviour are a fundamental part of any policy-actionable model. If one got the behaviour wrong one's model was wrong.
I am most definitely not saying this is the academics fault. They have been used to provide something they shouldn't have been asked to provide in isolation without any other kinds of input or sanity check.
Who does the modelling for the MoD for war and defence related issues? Academics? Professional modellers? I have no idea, but we should be looking into it.
#1) As you say these people model this niche subject, their techniques really aren't leveraging state of the art methods. Lots of people for example in maths community are really naïve about the state of the art machine learning. ML is an incredible fast moving field with enormous amounts of research papers every year. Its a full time job just keeping up with a sub-set of this. I have spent the past 2 months just researching one tiny niche field with 100s of papers over the past few years.
#2) Lots of people who specialise in mathematical modelling ain't doing this, they can earn a hell of a lot of money in other fields.
#3) Ease of availability of data is a really big issue. Lots of the inputs you might wish to incorporate into your model, the data apparently isn't available or isn't consistent. The machine learning community are used to having at least some test datasets that have already been well curated, so they can always at least make a start from a position where they don't have to worry about lots of errors / inconsistencies in the data.
In the true Glaswegian, 'modeller' = patron of 'model lodging house' = slightly upmarket dosshouse, or it was slightly upmarket when built long ago.
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSE00760
Edit: aforesaid jakey patron usually wearing about 6 coats and pulling an old pram with his possessions, plus a few dozen flies attracted by his personal perfume.
Burnham's accent is fine. The reasons he's unlikely to become leader are the complicated path, the strong impression that he's a lightweight, and the unlikely concept of the rest of Labour just waving him through.
PS 25%
PP 24%
Vox 20%
Pobemos 12%
every other party on 3.5% or less
(ElectoPanel/Electomanía; sample size = 1,823; 31 Dec - 6 Jan)
Working class Leicester folk have a very different accent to the Leicester County set, though that is not quite RP. Hinckley has its own accent, as does the Harborough area, which sounds almost like Norfolk.
I've no problem with RP, particularly, but in my mind the exaggerated intonations, tics and emphases of elolocution lessons stll somehow always come back to this. Steve Nallon has always been an absolute master at capturing Thatcher's exaggerated vocal tics and mannerisms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88z_q4ctgIY
PP and Vox are the real deal: drenched in Franco’s legacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weHcrCAOHhw