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Boris has always been lazy and a chancer, and had to be carefully managed when it comes to the press, but post COVID you see it time and again, he get confused, he can't remember a question or goes off on a tangent, even when they have been soft ball question that were easy we done well type response.
Certain weeks its a toss up who is more embarrassingly lost, Joe Biden or Boris Johnson.
From The Times: "In 1982 matters came to a head when Ammaturo left the decapitated body of the psychiatrist who had helped him to escape jail, but who had since done favours for Cutolo, near the latter’s headquarters."
Yesterday I posted it was likely to be the last day in a while under 800 mechnical ventilation patients, but am pleasantly surprised they went down today and are back close to an all winter low.
London admissions down week on week again and total beds occupied barely rising now (up 2% day on day rather than consistent 10% growth a week or 2 back). Given incidentals still likely to be rising with current case levels much higher than 28 days ago, possible that 'for covid' beds in London have already peaked.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Case and death numbers have a lot of backfill. By actual dates it doesn't look too bad.
Yes, and tomorrow will have a lot of backfill for NYD holiday testing being delayed until after the bank holiday. It actually won't be until this time next week before we see a true representation of what the situation looks like.
The ONS data didn't seem bad today, lots of infections of course, putting those number back onto non-incidental hospitalisation numbers will probably show a very low IHR.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
When you look at the deaths by date of death graph now, deaths have basically been flat since 27 Nov.
There was a tiny uptick in first week of Dec followed by an equivalent downtick but overall they've been flat for the last 6 weeks.
Whereas if you had read threads on here, it was posted numerous times throughout Dec by people supposedly doing all kinds of clever analysis that deaths were falling in Dec.
As for what happens next, a rise looks likely but we'll have to see.
The London deaths seven day average has moved up meaningfully - it was running at about 10, it's now running at about 18. Given timelags, there may still be some increases to come.
But while the increase is significant, the London is 20% of the UK, and it is well ahead of the curve. (It's also winter, and quote a lot more people die in winter anyway.) So those figures are reasonably encouraging. They suggest a wave that will increase death rates, but nowhere near as much as previous waves.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Milo Ponsford. Now that is a name you would not want
Milo Ponsford, 26, took rope to a Black Lives Matter protest in the city in June 2020. He is one of four people charged with illegally removing the monument to the slave trader. He claimed that stopping this "harm" gave him a lawful excuse to remove it.
So it isn't a matter of could they actually be identified as the culprits i.e that perhaps the plod got the wrong man. This sends a rather worrying message.
There is something rather wrong when pissy man hands himself in the next day, apologises for being drunk knobhead, but goes to jail....and these people are innocent because the "harm" of a statue means its ok.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
From The Times: "In 1982 matters came to a head when Ammaturo left the decapitated body of the psychiatrist who had helped him to escape jail, but who had since done favours for Cutolo, near the latter’s headquarters."
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When you look at the deaths by date of death graph now, deaths have basically been flat since 27 Nov.
There was a tiny uptick in first week of Dec followed by an equivalent downtick but overall they've been flat for the last 6 weeks.
Whereas if you had read threads on here, it was posted numerous times throughout Dec by people supposedly doing all kinds of clever analysis that deaths were falling in Dec.
As for what happens next, a rise looks likely but we'll have to see.
The London deaths seven day average has moved up meaningfully - it was running at about 10, it's now running at about 18. Given timelags, there may still be some increases to come.
But while the increase is significant, the London is 20% of the UK, and it is well ahead of the curve. (It's also winter, and quote a lot more people die in winter anyway.) So those figures are reasonably encouraging. They suggest a wave that will increase death rates, but nowhere near as much as previous waves.
Looks like it was more like 12 or 13 around 10th December (i.e. deaths most definitely due to November delta) so to date a c. 50% increase.
Indeed encouraging when you'd need 20x that increase to get up to last year.
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He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
Yesterday I posted it was likely to be the last day in a while under 800 mechnical ventilation patients, but am pleasantly surprised they went down today and are back close to an all winter low.
London admissions down week on week again and total beds occupied barely rising now (up 2% day on day rather than consistent 10% growth a week or 2 back). Given incidentals still likely to be rising with current case levels much higher than 28 days ago, possible that 'for covid' beds in London have already peaked.
I know I am like a broken record but the fact that people who are enter hospital for a non-covid reason but then fail a covid test at any point during their stay are classed as a pure-play covid admission is beyond ludicrous.
Yes, I know, I know! I understand the argument that they provide a healthcare challenge –because under current rules they still have to be put in a covid ward, even if they have mild or no covid symptoms.
But they are de facto NOT a covid admission under any logical interpretation of the phrase because – by definition – they were not admitted to hospital because they were suffering from covid. A geezer who breaks his leg playing football comes to hospital to get his leg fixed up. He probably cares less about a few sneezes from catching a mild dose of omicron when he can't walk. Yet this same guy is a 'covid admission'.
The data needs to be separated between those who come through the doors because of covid, and those who arrived for some other reason, who happen to have failed a covid test while on the ward.
It's going to get worse: the South Africans reported 60% non-Covid 'incidental' infections during their Omicron peak. They were just much, much better at explaining it and publicising the paradox.
Boris has always been lazy and a chancer, and had to be carefully managed when it comes to the press, but post COVID you see it time and again, he get confused, he can't remember a question or goes off on a tangent, even when they have been soft ball question that were easy we done well type response.
Certain weeks its a toss up who is more embarrassingly lost, Joe Biden or Boris Johnson.
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
Case and death numbers have a lot of backfill. By actual dates it doesn't look too bad.
Yes, and tomorrow will have a lot of backfill for NYD holiday testing being delayed until after the bank holiday. It actually won't be until this time next week before we see a true representation of what the situation looks like.
The ONS data didn't seem bad today, lots of infections of course, putting those number back onto non-incidental hospitalisation numbers will probably show a very low IHR.
I was trying to amateurishly crunch the IHR and CFR from the numbers we have the other day. I am not good enough to be precise enough for PB. But suffice to say the very rough numbers I ended up with looked very low. Very low indeed.
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
If he was, then listeners may be (if not any of us regulars), and it should be taken down.
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He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
Is his electoral performance (against Jeremy Corbyn) always your last redoubt? Will you be the last person to realise he is unfit for office? Even he realises it. Even the Downing Street cat would make a better job of it.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Of course. Commenting on her motivations, Rhian Graham stated "well, I was just sat on the settee in me nana's lounge after dinner, wiping me hands on a serviette after a trip to the toilet when I heard that Coulson who has the statue was a slave trader and I was like 'pardon?' and that was it"
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
Well the tweet does make it pretty clear that it was only 46 seconds out of 4 minutes.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
From The Times: "In 1982 matters came to a head when Ammaturo left the decapitated body of the psychiatrist who had helped him to escape jail, but who had since done favours for Cutolo, near the latter’s headquarters."
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Of course. Commenting on her motivations, Rhian Graham stated "well, I was just sat on the settee in me nana's lounge after dinner, wiping me hands on a serviette after a trip to the toilet when I heard that Coulson who has the statue was a slave trader and I was like 'pardon?' and that was it"
He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
Well the tweet does make it pretty clear that it was only 46 seconds out of 4 minutes.
That is very interesting. The Sages seem to be not very Sage like. Essentially it would seem that based on that data you need to take their least pessimistic forecast and then knock a bit more off to get the real world scenario.
England cases barely up week on week despite catch-up. Given the slight lag from infection to recorded case, and London seeming to peak around the 25th, reasonable to think England may be at it's overall peak right about now.
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I still find those graphs hard to interpret, but instinctively your London charts look quite promising to my amateur eye?
Cases are going down. 18-64 Admissions are definitely heading down, the others are showing some signs... Deaths are going up (delayed reporting for the last few days of data etc).
Published case rate of 4133.4 cases per 100k by sample date and guaranteed to increase to at least 4796.4 in the next 2 days.
Nearly 5% of the population testing positive in a week. Highest recently in London just topped 3% in Lambeth.
Reporting SNAFU?
The specimen date data look to be bending round in a pretty natural way. There is a post Xmas effect in when people got tested, but it looks fairly real to me.
He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
Is his electoral performance (against Jeremy Corbyn) always your last redoubt? Will you be the last person to realise he is unfit for office? Even he realises it. Even the Downing Street cat would make a better job of it.
There's some truth in it though.
BoJo's image does help him to connect with people in a way that TM and Dave (and Howard, IDS and Hague) didn't. It's an electoral strength. And it's worth noting that, even now, dumping BoJo might well cause Conservative ratings to fall. I suspect that it's a strategy to cut losses in 2024, rather than to win five more glorious years.
However, having a populist image is pretty much orthogonal to being any good at the job of running the country.
That is very interesting. The Sages seem to be not very Sage like. Essentially it would seem that based on that data you need to take their least pessimistic forecast and then knock a bit more off to get the real world scenario.
By 'knock a bit off' you typically mean divide by an integer between 2 and 10.
Published case rate of 4133.4 cases per 100k by sample date and guaranteed to increase to at least 4796.4 in the next 2 days.
Nearly 5% of the population testing positive in a week. Highest recently in London just topped 3% in Lambeth.
Reporting SNAFU?
The specimen date data look to be bending round in a pretty natural way. There is a post Xmas effect in when people got tested, but it looks fairly real to me.
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
"...for a time he was barely coherent..." doesn't suggest that.
Had he been taken in, then "completely and utterly out to lunch" would have been more appropriate.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Of course. Commenting on her motivations, Rhian Graham stated "well, I was just sat on the settee in me nana's lounge after dinner, wiping me hands on a serviette after a trip to the toilet when I heard that Coulson who has the statue was a slave trader and I was like 'pardon?' and that was it"
How do you get acquitted of criminal damage when you damaged criminally a statue that doesn't belong to you?
Catching up on PMQs. Drooling aside, AR does show SKS up as the living dead. She isn't using very different material - it could be his script - but you can imagine SKS's mumbling monotone delivering it
Look at the hospitalisations actual vs the Warwick Model.
I'm sticking to my prediction posted here early December in response to Leon's flapping:
"If you look at daily hospitalisations during the 2nd wave in UK, between the end of Oct 20 and Mid Feb 21, hospitalisations topped out at over 4000 per day and were over 1500 p/d for every day of that three and a half month period. The average (mean) was about 2600 over that period.
Currently we have about 800 p/d because we have the vaccines and boosters.
Beat me over the head with this post next spring if I'm wrong but I'll be amazed if we get near 2600 as a peak let alone as an average.
Average between now and Mid Feb? - I'd guess 1200."
Djokovic still stuck at airport. He's not getting in is he? State government denying they gave it the OK. Says it's very much a Federal issue. Some questions about visa too.
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
Well the tweet does make it pretty clear that it was only 46 seconds out of 4 minutes.
Only ?
The question being whether it was an unedited recording of Johnson's reply, which a number of people seemed to think it was.
He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
Are you not underestimating what to he term DEs? Surely the great unwashed are more sophisticated than you give them credit for. I for one quite like to he well groomed, James Bond-esque Johnson. A Statesman-like PM with gravitas is far more rewarding than a music hall clown.
Case and death numbers have a lot of backfill. By actual dates it doesn't look too bad.
Yes, and tomorrow will have a lot of backfill for NYD holiday testing being delayed until after the bank holiday. It actually won't be until this time next week before we see a true representation of what the situation looks like.
The ONS data didn't seem bad today, lots of infections of course, putting those number back onto non-incidental hospitalisation numbers will probably show a very low IHR.
I was trying to amateurishly crunch the IHR and CFR from the numbers we have the other day. I am not good enough to be precise enough for PB. But suffice to say the very rough numbers I ended up with looked very low. Very low indeed.
Well, cases have been soaring, but deaths are pretty flat, so far.....
So CFR is falling - was playing around with the CFR calculator I built a while back as well.
That is very interesting. The Sages seem to be not very Sage like. Essentially it would seem that based on that data you need to take their least pessimistic forecast and then knock a bit more off to get the real world scenario.
I heard some chap on the radio/telly/net the other day saying that we shouldn't call them forecasts. We should instead refer to them as 'possible scenarios' instead.
Of course, were they not wildly inaccurate, then we'd be told to call them forecasts.
In any case, I'm not sure what the point of the projections/forecasts/scenarios is.
You might as well consult the tea leaves in your afternoon cuppa.
I still find those graphs hard to interpret, but instinctively your London charts look quite promising to my amateur eye?
Cases are going down. 18-64 Admissions are definitely heading down, the others are showing some signs... Deaths are going up (delayed reporting for the last few days of data etc).
Ah, yes, that was my interpretation – thanks for the reply.
One of those found innocent isn't even from sodding Bristol. They came all the way from Southampton. I was so offended on behalf of the people of Bristol having to walk past it, I came 100 miles to rip it down.
He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Of course. Commenting on her motivations, Rhian Graham stated "well, I was just sat on the settee in me nana's lounge after dinner, wiping me hands on a serviette after a trip to the toilet when I heard that Coulson who has the statue was a slave trader and I was like 'pardon?' and that was it"
How do you get acquitted of criminal damage when you damaged criminally a statue that doesn't belong to you?
Djokovic still stuck at airport. He's not getting in is he? State government denying they gave it the OK. Says it's very much a Federal issue. Some questions about visa too.
Djokovic still stuck at airport. He's not getting in is he? State government denying they gave it the OK. Says it's very much a Federal issue. Some questions about visa too.
Sounds like the set up for a movie, with hilarious consequences.
That is surely a fake - stitched together - audio recording?
I think it is a compilation of all the 'errs' in the 4 minute answer. Which is a bit unfair, though that is a lot of erring for 4 minutes.
I will be first in the queue when it comes to highlighting the PM's innumerable inadequacies - but it is poor of this site to lead off using such a doctored recording giving the impression it is a recording of his answering a single question.
To be fair I guess that OGH was taken in rather than seeking to mislead.
Well the tweet does make it pretty clear that it was only 46 seconds out of 4 minutes.
Only ?
An "er" every 5.2 seconds is pretty bad for someone whom his apologists claim is something of an orator (lol)
That is very interesting. The Sages seem to be not very Sage like. Essentially it would seem that based on that data you need to take their least pessimistic forecast and then knock a bit more off to get the real world scenario.
By 'knock a bit off' you typically mean divide by an integer between 2 and 10.
One of those found innocent isn't even from sodding Bristol. They came all the way from Southampton. I was so offended on behalf of the people of Bristol having to walk past it, I came 100 miles to rip it down.
I think it is pretty wrong to give the verdict of not guilty - clearly these people were involved. By all means give light sentences, but offences were committed, or can I go where I like and cause damage, just because I deem it affects my life?
That is very interesting. The Sages seem to be not very Sage like. Essentially it would seem that based on that data you need to take their least pessimistic forecast and then knock a bit more off to get the real world scenario.
The Speccie has been rather selective in its choice of data, and rather misleading in its presentation, meaning it can be safely filed under 'garbage'. For example, they somehow omitted to display the chart (bottom left) of England hospitalisations against the LHSTM and other models:
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Of course. Commenting on her motivations, Rhian Graham stated "well, I was just sat on the settee in me nana's lounge after dinner, wiping me hands on a serviette after a trip to the toilet when I heard that Coulson who has the statue was a slave trader and I was like 'pardon?' and that was it"
How do you get acquitted of criminal damage when you damaged criminally a statue that doesn't belong to you?
Ask the jury. (Actually you're not allowed to). It's their decision.
Djokovic still stuck at airport. He's not getting in is he? State government denying they gave it the OK. Says it's very much a Federal issue. Some questions about visa too.
He's a scruff who hates people who work hard, particularly Margaret Thatcher (a proper girly SWOT).
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
On the other hand Boris is the only Tory leader ever to win most voters from the lowest DE social class, as he did in 2019 when 41% of DEs voted Tory to 39% who voted Labour.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
Is his electoral performance (against Jeremy Corbyn) always your last redoubt? Will you be the last person to realise he is unfit for office? Even he realises it. Even the Downing Street cat would make a better job of it.
There's some truth in it though.
BoJo's image does help him to connect with people in a way that TM and Dave (and Howard, IDS and Hague) didn't. It's an electoral strength. And it's worth noting that, even now, dumping BoJo might well cause Conservative ratings to fall. I suspect that it's a strategy to cut losses in 2024, rather than to win five more glorious years.
However, having a populist image is pretty much orthogonal to being any good at the job of running the country.
Indeed, you can't do one (run the country) without the other (win the election). But to do the latter and be shockingly bad at the former is worse than not winning in the first place.
That is very interesting. The Sages seem to be not very Sage like. Essentially it would seem that based on that data you need to take their least pessimistic forecast and then knock a bit more off to get the real world scenario.
The Speccie has been rather selective in its choice of data, and rather misleading in its presentation, meaning it can be safely filed under 'garbage'. For example, they somehow omitted to display the chart (bottom left) of England hospitalisations against the LHSTM and other models:
That Speccie tracker of SAGE models is really quite damning. No wonder the politicians have completely lost all faith in the modelled projections and are now basing decisions on real data. I don't understand where the feedback loop has been for the last two years, it's been pretty obvious that Omicron wouldn't result in 600-6000 deaths per day or 3000 non-incidental hospital admissions per day in a largely vaccinated population. I just can't understand how it's possible that no one took a step back from the minutiae of the numbers and thought about exactly what it was they were proposing. They were saying Omicron would set us back to February 2020 but we've had 133m vaccine doses jabbed into arms and somewhere around 20m COVID infections. It never made sense that any variant would be able to push us back to where we were at the beginning, yet that's what they said would happen.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Classic example of jury nullification – the jury knows the defendants are guilty under the letter of the law, but acquits anyway. I suspect in this case, the youth of the defendants and the fact they are likely to make a good contribution to society (without a criminal record) was at play. But it is an interesting case and debate for sure.
Four protesters have been found not guilty of causing criminal damage after toppling of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter protest.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
Back to the good old days when Juries make moral judgements rather than just following the judges direction. Long live the Randle and Pottles of this world.
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Certain weeks its a toss up who is more embarrassingly lost, Joe Biden or Boris Johnson.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pupetta-maresca-obituary-bmprw69mc
London admissions down week on week again and total beds occupied barely rising now (up 2% day on day rather than consistent 10% growth a week or 2 back). Given incidentals still likely to be rising with current case levels much higher than 28 days ago, possible that 'for covid' beds in London have already peaked.
A jury at Bristol Crown Court cleared Rhian Graham, 30, Jake Skuse, 33, Sage Willoughby, 22 and Milo Ponsford, 26, of charges, following a trial that lasted two weeks.
https://news.sky.com/story/edward-colston-statue-four-protesters-found-not-guilty-of-criminal-damage-after-toppling-monument-of-slave-trader-12509488
Isn't that what Tory Peers are for?
I still find those graphs hard to interpret, but instinctively your London charts look quite promising to my amateur eye?
The ONS data didn't seem bad today, lots of infections of course, putting those number back onto non-incidental hospitalisation numbers will probably show a very low IHR.
Is it any surprise he's consistently gets found out for being lazy and unprepared?
But while the increase is significant, the London is 20% of the UK, and it is well ahead of the curve. (It's also winter, and quote a lot more people die in winter anyway.) So those figures are reasonably encouraging. They suggest a wave that will increase death rates, but nowhere near as much as previous waves.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-59672257
So it isn't a matter of could they actually be identified as the culprits i.e that perhaps the plod got the wrong man. This sends a rather worrying message.
There is something rather wrong when pissy man hands himself in the next day, apologises for being drunk knobhead, but goes to jail....and these people are innocent because the "harm" of a statue means its ok.
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Indeed encouraging when you'd need 20x that increase to get up to last year.
I think Boris Johnson is a fool and a disaster, but this kind of thing is just an insult to the intelligence.
Boris being a scruff rather than a stuffed shirt probably helped with them
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2019-election
Yes, I know, I know! I understand the argument that they provide a healthcare challenge –because under current rules they still have to be put in a covid ward, even if they have mild or no covid symptoms.
But they are de facto NOT a covid admission under any logical interpretation of the phrase because – by definition – they were not admitted to hospital because they were suffering from covid. A geezer who breaks his leg playing football comes to hospital to get his leg fixed up. He probably cares less about a few sneezes from catching a mild dose of omicron when he can't walk. Yet this same guy is a 'covid admission'.
The data needs to be separated between those who come through the doors because of covid, and those who arrived for some other reason, who happen to have failed a covid test while on the ward.
It's going to get worse: the South Africans reported 60%
non-Covid'incidental' infections during their Omicron peak. They were just much, much better at explaining it and publicising the paradox.https://data.spectator.co.uk/category/sage-scenarios
Patchy
https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1478746478474584067?s=20
A Labour source gets in touch to point out it is sixth time isolating, second time positive. No word on body donation
https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1478683175014518784?s=20
Published case rate of 4133.4 cases per 100k by sample date and guaranteed to increase to at least 4796.4 in the next 2 days.
Nearly 5% of the population testing positive in a week. Highest recently in London just topped 3% in Lambeth.
BoJo's image does help him to connect with people in a way that TM and Dave (and Howard, IDS and Hague) didn't. It's an electoral strength. And it's worth noting that, even now, dumping BoJo might well cause Conservative ratings to fall. I suspect that it's a strategy to cut losses in 2024, rather than to win five more glorious years.
However, having a populist image is pretty much orthogonal to being any good at the job of running the country.
Had he been taken in, then "completely and utterly out to lunch" would have been more appropriate.
I'm sticking to my prediction posted here early December in response to Leon's flapping:
"If you look at daily hospitalisations during the 2nd wave in UK, between the end of Oct 20 and Mid Feb 21, hospitalisations topped out at over 4000 per day and were over 1500 p/d for every day of that three and a half month period. The average (mean) was about 2600 over that period.
Currently we have about 800 p/d because we have the vaccines and boosters.
Beat me over the head with this post next spring if I'm wrong but I'll be amazed if we get near 2600 as a peak let alone as an average.
Average between now and Mid Feb? - I'd guess 1200."
Welcome to the dark side.
So CFR is falling - was playing around with the CFR calculator I built a while back as well.
Of course, were they not wildly inaccurate, then we'd be told to call them forecasts.
In any case, I'm not sure what the point of the projections/forecasts/scenarios is.
You might as well consult the tea leaves in your afternoon cuppa.
Very Bristol accent.
Maybe he should have stuck to keeping it undone to win the DE vote!
https://twitter.com/COVID19actuary/status/1478401755369164805