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Wise words for Boris from former CON leader Hague – politicalbetting.com
Wise words for Boris from former CON leader Hague – politicalbetting.com
After a disastrous few weeks for he PM it is inevitable that there is a lot of speculation bout him being forced out something that is much easier under Tory party rules than with Labour. We have almost been seeing a negative story a day over the past week or so and a common theme is how he actually manages his affairs.
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If all you have is magician's tricks and lies, eventually the curtain falls away.
I went to a get together with wider family in a pub tonight - I think owner and staff pleased it’s not a room and meals cancelled - and it was fun! It’s made me feel happy and alive. To be fair to what you are saying, it has been on my mind as I posted earlier, don’t like idea of family members dying of something because ambulances and hospitals all clogged up with covid victims, but how far to go to now in jabbed up Britain, what to destroy to flatten a predicted/not really predicted spike in hospital emissions? We have to believe in vaccines hype to do that at some point? Is that a fair argument?
If you're a Thatcherite, Blairite, Brownite or Cameroon you are priced in.
Just as you can scream abuse at OGS at Old Trafford. But will react with fury if an LFC or City fan does similar.
Boris has no season ticket holders. It was always transactional pay at the turnstile stuff.
The new material is bombing. Expect the Greatest Hits (Brexit and Vaccines) to stave off the bottles of piss.
Surely they have engineered a lock down by stealth by cunningly not giving clarity one way or other? Is this the value set that has people voting Conservative all their lives?
I had open eyes as to what Boris was when voting and I suspect many others did too.
Instead I think Boris has been broken by Covid. It's destroyed him. He's lost his nerve, lost his bottle and is basically scared of every shadow now.
Macron 51%
Pecresse 49%
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1473089792317472773?s=20
Then again. Well my mum is definitely voting Boris and Conservative in tomorrow’s General election! I suggested she could switch to Reform and she said it would be a wasted vote like it would be 2019, it will let in “Lockdown Starmer” the socialist. Nothing else from the last month or so really registers with her when faced with that 😆
Keep him and the Tories can win.
Ditch him and someone profoundly unsuitable but ideologically sound will make the final two. And win at a canter.
It'll be like electing Corbyn or IDS. But this time in government.
In a way personally I’m glad this his happened to me in mid twenties not when I was younger and growing up and going to college. If feel for younger age groups when you quite fairly said “but that’s just me”.
My Brother and Mother were soooooo Ghislaine Maxwell “how can you pay people for sex and then years later they complain about it and call you an abuser? This is woke madness. What’s the world coming too?”
My other half (Conservative voter not woke loony) didn’t say a word but I anticipated she would launch into martial arts on them any moment. 😆
Christmas and Boxing Day at my brothers is going to be fun too 😆
Are you really sure?
There was some talk not so long ago of next May being a general election, have all those thoughts been binned now?
But it was sensible in that it gets win out the way before all the bad news and pain on repairing the finances, tax increases, covid enquiries would come along and potentially put Conservative behind Labour in opinion polls? What does it mean for next election date now, a game of boxed in, trying to catch up in polls whilst time is running out?
As Lib Dem voter, can’t wait, bring it on 🙂
- New cases: 268,307*
- Average: 142,973 (+10,163)
- States reporting: 48/50
- In hospital: 67,191 (+326)
- In ICU: 16,253 (+37)
- New deaths: 1,756
- Average: 1,342 (+27)
*Excl MD backlog of 28,541 cases
Not the best advert for our media class.
Subtracting ten points for not spelling it right! Random keyboard pressing to get first is contarary to the rules. 😆
But I agree so much with you, Peppa Pig speech to the CBI when he appeared to have lost it completely. It’s important time with business, so much to come and listen to Prime Minister policy on - covid, ongoing Brexit ongoing trade issues, supply chains, inflation, energy costs, labour shortages. Plus of course important for fuck business Prime Minister to rebuild bridges between his party and business.
I wonder when he didn’t see many hands go up for Peppa Pig World he realised it’s because he’s the oldest new Dad in the hall, not that the audience are ignorant of what a successful business looks like? Maybe in future they won’t call these moments Ceaușescu Moment but Peppa Pig Moment.
However, the piss taking speech that day was mainly targeted at the business community. Boris earlier conference speech took the piss out of everyone in the country.
Is it okay to go off topic and talk about covid for a moment?
Having thought about it, the idea Omicron come to us from vaxxed up Lab mice, maybe it’s not such a crazy idea on the basis if something was going on like that, perhaps on international effort, it would have to be hush hush they couldn’t possibly be open about it?
It appears omicron is associated with less hospitalizations compared to #delta
Currently there’s less than 5 pts admitted to ICU. Population of 6 million.
3.5 weeks in.’
https://twitter.com/kwadwo777/status/1473044781999738891?s=21
Same pattern as Ontario and SA. Many more cases, far fewer deaths and hospitalisations
Note that the 73% Omicron is a model-based estimate with a very wide uncertainty interval (35-95%), due to, I'm told, small numbers. (I haven't been able to find the raw data on the CDC site.) https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
https://twitter.com/reichlab/status/1473120158470352902?s=20
‘If we instead look strictly at daily cases (i.e. NOT averaged) & include the most recent data, this is what the chart looks like.
Ten days ago, Omicron accounted for about 1% of new variant cases.
Now, it's the majority.’
https://twitter.com/cbcfletch/status/1473115259850297344?s=21
And the UK?
‘Some clever - and sophisticated - analyses indicating that the Omicron wave may be significantly milder than all previous ones, also in the UK (i.e. London). For the first time during the pandemic, there is a clear 'decorrelation' between case numbers and hospital admissions.’
https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1473084995145240578?s=21
They are not. The most likely place to see a viral mutation is in an individual with an ongoing infection, where the human body (or other host) is churning out countless billions of copies of the virus, introducing the very high chance of a copying error (i.e. mutation).
Remember: viruses need us to multiply. And the more multiplication the greater the chance of mutation.
‘Highly encouraging regarding Omicron.’
https://twitter.com/rwmalonemd/status/1473060295232925699?s=21
I’m not popping the Bollinger, but it’s worth a cautious Christmas beer. Same pattern everywhere, so far…
Edit: I realize I am citing an anti-vaxxer here, but the data is legit, I think
If you compare number of days from the start of the wave (say 2-3 weeks), it certainly not as large, but not as significant a difference as you might think that you see on first glance. From that chart alone, its still too early to tell.
Question is: can it still crush health systems by sheer number of cases? Because it is also much more infectious
Cases there are now falling for the while nation, by 5% last 7 days compared to previous 7 days.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table
counter intuitive as this may sound the best approach might be to stop/reduce the amount of testing, and only be absent form work if you are showing symptoms, alternatively and slightly less radical, test every day you are off and return to work as soon as you have a negative test.
I respect everything you say, and it’s fair enough to slap down Moon Rabbits Mouse Origin Omicron hypothesis theory thing, that variant was passaged in lab mice by a underground organisation of mammals fighting back against the reptiles trying to make us all hybrid humans - however, Omicron does have so many mutations that seem to indicate very strong pressure from prior immunity, so for a moment I was just like things that make you go hm?
And when I was reading the bible the other day, there was a bit in Revelation that seemed to imply what mice giveth mice taketh away.
PS I do hope you have sense of humour today and don’t ban me for pushing conspiracy theories. 😆
But there is one note of caution though isn’t there? When new variants go on a wave, they spread first amongst the young and less likely to go into hospital possibly on to something worse, because this age group tend to be the most socially active.
- “… outstanding… new advisers…”
Who are these people? Honestly. Please name them if they exist.
The puppet PM needs a master puppeteer. At the moment the UK Government resembles a primary school class riddled with ADHD brats, attempting to put on a nativity play. Every single parent in the audience is cringing with their heads in their hands, wishing they had remembered their contraception that tipsy night a few years ago.
This chaos is *never* going to end. Not until the electorate put the Tories out of government and out of their self-inflicted misery.
The May local elections are going to be a bloodbath.
Daily Mail (yes, Daily Mail) headline:
- “He's lost the room! Darts fans sing 'Stand up if you hate Boris' in unison at the World Championships while football fans chant expletives about him as the fallout from the No10 Christmas party rows continues”
His only way out now retaining a modicum of dignity is the Long Covid explanation. Up with your hands Boris and admit the decades of overeating, over drinking and promiscuity had left you woefully ill-prepared for a nasty viral infection. You are not well and you need to focus on your many, many children, and your own health. About 25% of the population will feel sorry for you and wish you well. The other 75% will shout Fuck Off and Good Riddance. The Conservative parliamentary group is in the latter category.
How I like that.
‘What happened to the amiable, hard-working David Frost I once knew?’
- Frost has finally learnt what decades of Foreign Office experience can never teach – that politics is not diplomacy and there is no loyalty at the top of state power
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/lord-frost-resignation-boris-johnson-brexit-b1979292.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdVymGK3OzM
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1042543/20211220_OS_Daily_Omicron_Overview.pdf
Hospitalisations: 129
Deaths: 14
2) It’s not fun.
3) “3,000 people at the darts” actually gets to the very heart of the problem(s)
At what point Sandpit have you had enough? You’re a good Tory. You are within Johnson’s “constituency” (as in his support base rather than geographically). You share his ideology. You are one of his “season ticket holders”, as @dixiedean put it upthread. So, at what point do you simply have to call it a day for Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, aka Binky the Clown?
Lying to the monarch was a pretty serious offence. There are many, many others. Let’s just see what comes to light.
Happy to see him replaced in the new year - unless he can quickly steady the ship with a new Cummings, there will be a rout in the local elections which will likely be the trigger.
I do laugh at all the people shouting about the PM at an event, unaware of the irony that if the other lot were in charge it would be being held behind closed doors.
This means that - sure - it might evade vaccines and prior infection to a significant extent. But it is nowhere near as dangerous to us. It's a cough. It's congestion. It's a head cold. It's deeply unpleasant.
But it doesn't affect - very much - our ability to breath.
This is why the numbers from South Africa for those on mechanical ventilation are less than one tenth the levels of previous waves.
Now, I'm not going to go out and say "it's just the common cold". It's not. If you're not vaccinated, it's a really serious infection that can really mess you up. But if you combine the fact that it is not (primarily) attacking your lungs, and the fact that vaccines prime your immune system against it (especially with three jabs), then it's really rather manageable.
And yeah, we're probably going to have a rough couple of weeks, because it's so infectious, but it's also going to sweep the population in about six weeks. Doing damage to hospitality, and to the numbers on call in hospitals and the like, and it's going to be shit.
But it's not an existential threat.
It's a pain. But it's not going to kill hundreds of thousands, or lead to hospitals overflowing. It's simply not that bad.
We know that now. First we had South Africa. Then Denmark, and Alberta, and New York. Nowhere - I repeat nowhere - is seeing an experience anywhere near as bad as Original (TM) Covid or Delta.
The problem, as discussed a couple of days ago, is that no-one who’s going to be any good wants the job - because of the wife. How do you solve a problem like Carrie?
THAT SAID: three jabs is *really* effective against Delta. And we're all going that way anyway. So we may simply never know.
What Boris needs, indeed has always needed, is a self effacing CEO who can deal with most of the hard work of government and provide a sense of order while Boris continues to build the Coalitions that make it possible to deliver and works as a front man. He needs a Peter Mandelson who brought some order to the chaos created by Gordon Brown or the enforcer that Osborne was for Cameron. The problem is that I am not seeing anyone like that in politics right now in either of our main parties. I know that I am in a minority here in thinking that there is a fair bit of talent in this government along with quite a lot of dross but self-effacing? None of them seem to be up for that.
He was promoting hydroxychloroquine in at least one video I saw last year, and apparently ivermectin more recently, so I find him generally a bit suspect.
Possibly the best news of the whole pandemic, would be that it’s mutated into something not much worse than winter influenza, yet the vaccines are still effective against serious illness.
(25 hours after booster Pfizer, still feel nothing apart from a slight sore arm).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Campbells-Physiology-Notes-John-Campbell/dp/0955379725
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0056NOYOE/
His two books are also available as a free-to-download PDF. I just cannot find a linkie atm.
He doesn’t dare give her a formal job, for which she is under-qualified and unsackable, and he doesn’t dare tell her to butt out of government business rather than hang around the office most of the day. Which leaves the middle way, where she is a distraction to everyone, and no-one actually wants the senior job of running the office.
I’ve worked in a company like this before, where the boss’s wife would walk around but no-one actually reported to her - and it made for a terrible atmosphere.
* we are going to see in the next fortnight a peak of cases higher than anything we have ever seen or even thought was possible. Whether we lockdown, wear masks, whatever is going to make minimal difference to that. Omicron is just too infectious.
* This is likely to lead to a very large number of hospitalisations at once, most often in our 5m unvaccinated but also in a small percentage but large number of those with some vaccination protection.
* We are also going to suffer serious economic disruption through policies of isolation for those infected. As a simple example courts are really struggling to complete jury trials at the moment but more generally all businesses are going to have staff problems, especially if their staff cannot work from home.
*There are good prospects that this wave will peak very quickly, probably within 2 weeks, and then fall away sharply. It seems unlikely now that there will be a very large number of deaths connected with it but we should not be too sanguine about that yet.
If this comes about things may start to look a bit better for the government and for Boris by early January. But the need for message discipline and a sense of purpose will remain.
https://twitter.com/williamnhutton/status/1473079464045297668
We can discern things: but we cannot tell if what we're seeing is real, or some artefact. We need time to see if they are real and what that means, but time is the one thing we don't have if the answer is bad.
There is some reason to be hopeful, though.
One of the things we don't know - and need time to know - is whether the stricter measures put in place by the devolved administrations, or the lockdown in Holland, makes much difference to the spread of Omicron. Or whether people will follow stricter measures anyway - going by some of the people on here, they won't - but PB has rarely been typical of the population as a whole...
I agree Johnson needs somebody capable and intelligent managing the operation, but that's something he's never had. Not something that went with Cummings.
Going to be another brutal day for energy companies.
It was good of him (or her) upstairs to lay on this global case study to demonstrate the foolishness of excess religiosity and alt-right conspiracy thinking; only, it doesn’t seem to be working…..
I wonder if he was able to talk some sense into Javid and that helped with the Cabinet?
https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1473193255349243911
https://twitter.com/jxshnufc/status/1471835917136670726
On the other hand, staff have been given free tickets for A Chorus Line at the theatre.
There is a cognitive dissonance amongst the last remaining Peppa apologists. They have denied every single one of these events as being damaging - even saying "good speech" to the CBI. And again over the garden party.
So here we are. Ally Pally - classic 2019 Tory voter territory - chanting "Stand up if you Hate Boris". He is done - the only question is how fast they go for him.