The last successful Tory by-election defence was in 2016 – politicalbetting.com
Here’s a political trivia question that even the most ardent PBer would struggle to answer – when and where was the last successful Tory Westminster by-election defence?
It is true it hsa been awhile since a successful Tory defence. In fairness by-elections have seemed more common for non-Tories, and there's also been a sad increase in the number of deaths among Tory MPs this year, after a long period with none.
From wiki, the number of Tory by-elections as a proportion since 2010 is:
2019 - to date - 4/7 2017-19 - 1/5 2015-17 - 3/10 2010-15 - 4/21 (and two of those were UKIP driven where the incumbents won)
And the trend goes further back (in fairness there were fewer of them to provoke a by-election), and its not until the 1997 parliament that there's as high a proportion of Tory defences as now.
The best way to avoid losing a by-election in one of your seats is to avoid having any, and it's notable from OGH's article that there have been relatively few Tory defences over the last five years.
This is an area where, if Labour were to sharpen up their act to match the Tories, we could expect to see a further decline in the frequency of by-elections.
Amusingly I see there was even 1 by-election in the Feb-Oct 1974 Parliament, otherwise the best chance to get away with none.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Amusingly I see there was even 1 by-election in the Feb-Oct 1974 Parliament, otherwise the best chance to get away with none.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
I make it seven by elections due to the MPs taking up judicial appointments between 1959-64.
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Tho I love the use of "blacklist". That will get him cancelled for life in about 3 weeks
It's hard to know what such people expect to derive from a degree-leval education. Plainly, they possess very low levels of intelligence, and are unteachable, since teaching involves being exposed to opinions that one may disagree with.
It's hard to know what such people expect to derive from a degree-leval education. Plainly, they possess very low levels of intelligence, and are unteachable, since teaching involves being exposed to opinions that one may disagree with.
Exactly. They appear to be as thick as two short planks.
You've picked quite a night to join the conversation!
But started with a PB classic perennial!
Or perineal..
Can't let this prime gag grundle its way past everyone.
Was quite alarmed once to be told I’d pulled my peroneal muscle. Turns out it’s one of the calf muscles, and nowhere near what I was thinking...
I appear to have peroneal tendinitis at the moment, although it responded well to sticking my foot in a box of ice at the weekend, and I went for an easy run this evening without any problems.
It's hard to know what such people expect to derive from a degree-leval education. Plainly, they possess very low levels of intelligence, and are unteachable, since teaching involves being exposed to opinions that one may disagree with.
Exactly. They appear to be as thick as two short planks.
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Tho I love the use of "blacklist". That will get him cancelled for life in about 3 weeks
It's hard to know what such people expect to derive from a degree-leval education.
What most people expect of a degree level education - the ability to apply for entry level jobs which are screened for graduates even if they don't need to be.
Outsider Left, but the questions don't work outside the USA. I don't think America the greatest country in the world, but as a non-American, what do you expect?
Amusingly I see there was even 1 by-election in the Feb-Oct 1974 Parliament, otherwise the best chance to get away with none.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
"Rather more fun facts include 1998 being the only year in UK electoral history without either any Westminster by-elections or a General Election, and the General Election years of 1992 and 2010 being the only others without any by-elections. The longest “gap” between two by-elections was the 567 days between 20th November 1997 and 10th June 1999."
Amusingly I see there was even 1 by-election in the Feb-Oct 1974 Parliament, otherwise the best chance to get away with none.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
"Rather more fun facts include 1998 being the only year in UK electoral history without either any Westminster by-elections or a General Election, and the General Election years of 1992 and 2010 being the only others without any by-elections. The longest “gap” between two by-elections was the 567 days between 20th November 1997 and 10th June 1999."
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Tho I love the use of "blacklist". That will get him cancelled for life in about 3 weeks
How thick do you have to be to not understand that sometimes people are illustrating a point by mimicking and lampooning someone?
I know. What a ridiculous concept. Someone should tell erm Cambridge Footlights and cancel, erm, Peter Cook for starters.
Not just Peter Cook but many of the best comics ever, and not just comics of the past either. The censorious literalism that some young people seem to subscribe to is bizarre.
@HYUFD Did you see I referenced you in a post this morning. You will be relieved to know In a complementary way 👍
Thanks, have had a lot of work on today and a council meeting this evening.
Have found your post and thankyou for the comment on your thoughts on me as a councillor, much appreciated
No problem. I objected to the thought that we are all in it for what we can get and although we disagree on a lot I thought you were a good example of someone who is committed to what you believe in and not in any way out for what you can get personally.
I retook that silly American Typology test, but answering the questions as if they said Britain instead of America, Labour instead of Democrats and Conservatives instead of GOP [whom I rated at 0 first time around].
This time I got Committed Conservative instead of Outsider Left. Though its still a shitty test and in the bar charts very few of my ratings line up with "Committed Conservatives" besides how I rated the parties.
Blimey, if you're ambivalent I'd hate to meet somebody who was a commited conservative!
I was 'outsider left', which I am pleased to see is the youngest typology group. Yay! I'm young at heart!
Not sure this quiz really works outside the US tbh.
In the US I would be a moderate Republican, which makes me a right of centre Conservative in the UK.
Only supporters of RefUK or JRM or IDS in the UK would make it as conservative Republicans in US terms
Yes that's fair - once I had completed the quiz and realised how US centric it was I was no longer surprised you were deemed 'ambivalent'.
The questions seemed deeply slanted to me - framed by someone obsessed with the 'culture war'. Nothing on health care, wealth inequality, or democratic rights, yet gender fluidity, immigration, and size of government figure as individual questions.
Eric “Spicy Nachos” Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing · 1h 2) Perspective—“panic buying” of groceries & necessities has begun in mainland China [as covid] cases rising across majority of Flag of China provinces—& mostly community transmission, not travel. Cases low vs Western countries—but could rise.
Amusingly I see there was even 1 by-election in the Feb-Oct 1974 Parliament, otherwise the best chance to get away with none.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
"Rather more fun facts include 1998 being the only year in UK electoral history without either any Westminster by-elections or a General Election, and the General Election years of 1992 and 2010 being the only others without any by-elections. The longest “gap” between two by-elections was the 567 days between 20th November 1997 and 10th June 1999."
I retook that silly American Typology test, but answering the questions as if they said Britain instead of America, Labour instead of Democrats and Conservatives instead of GOP [whom I rated at 0 first time around].
This time I got Committed Conservative instead of Outsider Left. Though its still a shitty test and in the bar charts very few of my ratings line up with "Committed Conservatives" besides how I rated the parties.
The British political tribes analysis on Electoral Calculus seems by far the best one for British politics that I have seen.
I wonder if we could come up with anything better here, and if we could create an unusual and interesting set of questions for it?
I'm wondering if you could define a set of British political archetypes using MPs, and then give people a set of quotes from Hansard and ask them if they agree or disagree, so that you could tell people how close their politics was to the archetypal MPs.
IDS was asked to chair a committee on post-Brexit deregulation opportunities.
Mysteriously he recommends alcohol-free hand sanitizer, after receiving 25k from a relevant manufacturer.
Can that be legal?
Does it work?
I thought it has to be 70% ethyl or isopropyl alcohol to break down viruses reliably.
Do you think he cares? He got his money and now needs to do what they tell him to do.
Iain Duncan Smith is facing questions over his £25,000-a-year second job advisingkickbacks, working a grift on behalf of a multimillion-pound hand sanitiser company.
IDS was asked to chair a committee on post-Brexit deregulation opportunities.
Mysteriously he recommends alcohol-free hand sanitizer, after receiving 25k from a relevant manufacturer.
Can that be legal?
Does it work?
I thought it has to be 70% ethyl or isopropyl alcohol to break down viruses reliably.
Do you think he cares? He got his money and now needs to do what they tell him to do.
Iain Duncan Smith is facing questions over his £25,000-a-year second job advisingkickbacks, working a grift on behalf of a multimillion-pound hand sanitiser company.
Will that company soon be washing their hands of him?
Rayner's asking the right questions here: Did this MP declare an interest when these matters were discussed and reported on by the taskforce? Why is the prime minister failing to act over these glaring conflicts of interest?
Looking forward to hearing about why we don't need to be worried by this. Prima facie this is troubling.
Yes, she is really good on this issue. It's not just a pantomime to her.
Sherelle Jacobs is probably my favourite journalist at the moment. Couldn't agree more with this.
"After 11 years of Tory rule, Britain is still run by a hypocritical Blairite elite The quangos and BBC continue to be dominated by a soft-Left establishment that the PM is too scared to tame Sherelle Jacobs"
Oh good god this is nonsense. I despise this new generation. Andrew Graham Dixon is not a fucking Nazi
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
Tho I love the use of "blacklist". That will get him cancelled for life in about 3 weeks
It's hard to know what such people expect to derive from a degree-leval education. Plainly, they possess very low levels of intelligence, and are unteachable, since teaching involves being exposed to opinions that one may disagree with.
They are genuinely stupid. Also terrified of being singled out as different. But also just fucking dumb
That is to say, we have bred a generation of properly stupid people. IQs are falling across the world (the so called Reverse Flynn Effect) this is that tendency finally revealing itself, in our education system
Add in the drop in testosterone levels and the decline in sperm counts and you have to wonder:
1. if Gaia has just decided to kill off humans
2. What year the Chinese will just walk all over us (before their own low birthrates kill them as well)?
3. Who the hell my mid-teen daughters might marry, who might not be an effete imbecile. There won't be much choice
IDS was asked to chair a committee on post-Brexit deregulation opportunities.
Mysteriously he recommends alcohol-free hand sanitizer, after receiving 25k from a relevant manufacturer.
Can that be legal?
Does it work?
I thought it has to be 70% ethyl or isopropyl alcohol to break down viruses reliably.
Do you think he cares? He got his money and now needs to do what they tell him to do.
Iain Duncan Smith is facing questions over his £25,000-a-year second job advisingkickbacks, working a grift on behalf of a multimillion-pound hand sanitiser company.
Reminds me of how in the old sitcom "Frazier" his brother Niles was married to a urinal-cake heiress.
IDS was asked to chair a committee on post-Brexit deregulation opportunities.
Mysteriously he recommends alcohol-free hand sanitizer, after receiving 25k from a relevant manufacturer.
Can that be legal?
Does it work?
I thought it has to be 70% ethyl or isopropyl alcohol to break down viruses reliably.
Do you think he cares? He got his money and now needs to do what they tell him to do.
Iain Duncan Smith is facing questions over his £25,000-a-year second job advisingkickbacks, working a grift on behalf of a multimillion-pound hand sanitiser company.
Will that company soon be washing their hands of him?
Will 5 candidates competing for the fringe right-wing vote (UKIP, CPA, Heritage, English Democrats, Reform UK) make a difference in Bexley, or will Tice manage to hoover up the right-leaning protest votes and make any impact?
Amusingly I see there was even 1 by-election in the Feb-Oct 1974 Parliament, otherwise the best chance to get away with none.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
I make it seven by elections due to the MPs taking up judicial appointments between 1959-64.
Will 5 candidates competing for the fringe right-wing vote (UKIP, CPA, Heritage, English Democrats, Reform UK) make a difference in Bexley, or will Tice manage to hoover up the right-leaning protest votes and make any impact?
Maybe 10% between them on a good day. Both look like safe Tory holds, though Shropshire could be interesting.
I have received a confidential* briefing from the LDs and they are obviously going for the Shropshire by electron big time.
* Note the LD definition of confidential is several tens of thousand emails.
I doubt they will win it though given Labour is also standing a candidate.
So with the anti Tory vote split it should be a Tory hold even if the Tory vote falls below 50%
Agreed. But still worth fighting. With 3 by-elections in short succession, this is the one to go for. A good campaign keeps the party motivated, keeps the by-election machine well oiled, and expectations are so low that a second place is still going to look like a good result and get some publicity.
I think the LDs will get very close in North Shropshire, if not actually win it. Tories should hold Bexley with Richard Tice doing better than expected.
I think the LDs will get very close in North Shropshire, if not actually win it. Tories should hold Bexley with Richard Tice doing better than expected.
FWIW, my guts have a feeling about N Shropshire and Liberals. Johnson is due a kick even from his owns supporters just to remind him he needs to up his game if nothing else.
I'm on at 4.5, which is not brilliant but will do.
Will 5 candidates competing for the fringe right-wing vote (UKIP, CPA, Heritage, English Democrats, Reform UK) make a difference in Bexley, or will Tice manage to hoover up the right-leaning protest votes and make any impact?
Heritage managed 4th, albeit with only 1.6%, but were ahead of Reform UK in the Hartlepool by-election.
But Reform UK got nearly twice the Heritage vote in the London Assembly election... but the CPA beat both of them.
It was Eng Dem over UKIP over CPA over, in last place, Heritage in Batley & Spen.
There is no pattern here... but I do wonder whether Kurten might do better and Tice worse than we're expecting.
I retook that silly American Typology test, but answering the questions as if they said Britain instead of America, Labour instead of Democrats and Conservatives instead of GOP [whom I rated at 0 first time around].
This time I got Committed Conservative instead of Outsider Left. Though its still a shitty test and in the bar charts very few of my ratings line up with "Committed Conservatives" besides how I rated the parties.
Blimey, if you're ambivalent I'd hate to meet somebody who was a commited conservative!
I was 'outsider left', which I am pleased to see is the youngest typology group. Yay! I'm young at heart!
Not sure this quiz really works outside the US tbh.
In the US I would be a moderate Republican, which makes me a right of centre Conservative in the UK.
Only supporters of RefUK or JRM or IDS in the UK would make it as conservative Republicans in US terms
Yes that's fair - once I had completed the quiz and realised how US centric it was I was no longer surprised you were deemed 'ambivalent'.
The questions seemed deeply slanted to me - framed by someone obsessed with the 'culture war'. Nothing on health care, wealth inequality, or democratic rights, yet gender fluidity, immigration, and size of government figure as individual questions.
Agreed. And even the culture war questions were facile.
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From wiki, the number of Tory by-elections as a proportion since 2010 is:
2019 - to date - 4/7
2017-19 - 1/5
2015-17 - 3/10
2010-15 - 4/21 (and two of those were UKIP driven where the incumbents won)
And the trend goes further back (in fairness there were fewer of them to provoke a by-election), and its not until the 1997 parliament that there's as high a proportion of Tory defences as now.
2005-10 - 3/14
2001-05 - 0/6
1997-01 - 5/17
1992-97 - 8/18
1987-92 - 10/24
This is an area where, if Labour were to sharpen up their act to match the Tories, we could expect to see a further decline in the frequency of by-elections.
* Note the LD definition of confidential is several tens of thousand emails.
There used to be so many of them - 1959-64 there were 62! 27 were due to death in office, and a number of others were due to deaths of someone else pushing the incumbent into the Lords.
Brazen indeed.
So with the anti Tory vote split it should be a Tory hold even if the Tory vote falls below 50%
"Mr Bradwell could not confirm how many complaints the union had received, but said: "It was the largest number in my time in Cambridge by an awfully long way."
"He said the union now planned to "institutionalise firm definitions of racism", including anti-black racism and anti-Semitism.
""We will create a blacklist of speakers never to be invited back, and we will share it with other unions too. Andrew will be on that list," Mr Bradwell wrote to members."
They are unable to differentiate between quoted views and actual views. They are morons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-59214397
Tho I love the use of "blacklist". That will get him cancelled for life in about 3 weeks
SEVEN!
Cannot imagine even one happening now.
I got ambivalent right
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/
First time I've ever been called left wing. 😂
A very US centric poll though.
Mysteriously he recommends alcohol-free hand sanitizer, after receiving 25k from a relevant manufacturer.
Can that be legal?
Seems fair.
I thought it has to be 70% ethyl or isopropyl alcohol to break down viruses reliably.
https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2019/04/21/is-it-bye-bye-to-by-elections/
https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2019/04/27/bye-bye-by-elections-part-2-mps-who-resigned-their-seats-and-stood-in-the-ensuing-by-election/
Have found your post and thankyou for the comment on your thoughts on me as a councillor, much appreciated
I was 'outsider left', which I am pleased to see is the youngest typology group. Yay! I'm young at heart!
Not sure this quiz really works outside the US tbh.
I also posted electron instead of election earlier.
Only supporters of RefUK or JRM or IDS in the UK would make it as conservative Republicans in US terms
Now looking for smelling salts.
Brazen is right though.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1458198773319012354
This time I got Committed Conservative instead of Outsider Left. Though its still a shitty test and in the bar charts very few of my ratings line up with "Committed Conservatives" besides how I rated the parties.
I'm perplexed.
The questions seemed deeply slanted to me - framed by someone obsessed with the 'culture war'. Nothing on health care, wealth inequality, or democratic rights, yet gender fluidity, immigration, and size of government figure as individual questions.
I mean, I was as pissed as the next man when the Yanks were planning to mess with my Dairy Milk, but insurance? It just doesn't get me that excited.
Eric “Spicy Nachos” Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
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1h
2) Perspective—“panic buying” of groceries & necessities has begun in mainland China [as covid] cases rising across majority of Flag of China provinces—& mostly community transmission, not travel. Cases low vs Western countries—but could rise.
I wonder if we could come up with anything better here, and if we could create an unusual and interesting set of questions for it?
I'm wondering if you could define a set of British political archetypes using MPs, and then give people a set of quotes from Hansard and ask them if they agree or disagree, so that you could tell people how close their politics was to the archetypal MPs.
Sounds exactly right (if I were American). So it works
That is to say, we have bred a generation of properly stupid people. IQs are falling across the world (the so called Reverse Flynn Effect) this is that tendency finally revealing itself, in our education system
Add in the drop in testosterone levels and the decline in sperm counts and you have to wonder:
1. if Gaia has just decided to kill off humans
2. What year the Chinese will just walk all over us (before their own low birthrates kill them as well)?
3. Who the hell my mid-teen daughters might marry, who might not be an effete imbecile. There won't be much choice
Of microbes, at least.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/09/politics/gosar-anime-video-violence-ocasio-cortez-biden/index.html
I'm on at 4.5, which is not brilliant but will do.
But Reform UK got nearly twice the Heritage vote in the London Assembly election... but the CPA beat both of them.
It was Eng Dem over UKIP over CPA over, in last place, Heritage in Batley & Spen.
There is no pattern here... but I do wonder whether Kurten might do better and Tice worse than we're expecting.
"If you had to choose, would you rather have…
A smaller government providing fewer services
A bigger government providing more services"
It would have been nice to have had more than 2 possible answers.
A bigger government prioritising people like you
or
A bigger government prioritising people not like you
e.g.
Q. Would you prefer higher taxes and better services or lower taxes and worse services?
A. Lower taxes and better services.