Each year on the day the clocks move back I get really irritated because to me it is crazy. During the winter the amount of daylight hours is very limited so why not make it so that we can enjoy what there is to the maximum. Instead, we have light mornings and things go dark in the mid to late afternoon.
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I disagree, Winters are horrible anyway, having an extra hour of daylight in the afternoon/evening is of no use. Much better to have it getting light when kids are going to school.
Also, we do really need to be aligned with Europe. What I'd like to see if Europe change the clocks at the same time as the USA (i.e. go back on the first Sunday in November and go forward on the second (?) Sunday in March).
The whole point of midday is that it is the middle of the day. Why have the middle of the day at 1pm?
I'd like to see the kids walking in the dawn light to school.
Anyway, I like changing the clocks. I like getting an extra hour in bed in late October. I like the extra hour of daylight on early Spring evenings. And I dislike dark mornings. I find it hard to get up in the week or so before the clocks go back. That's now not an issue for another three weeks at least. I would definitely be averse to it not getting light until well after nine in the morning in December and January if we were on BST all year.
If we must stay at one time, GMT is the better time. But I would argue that GMT is best for winter, BST in summer.
It is annoying though.
Go to bed at 8pm and get up at 4am and you would maximise use of daylight all year round on GMT.
I kind of enjoy the dark winter evenings and nights. Embrace the snuggling down I guess, and enjoy the rare brilliant sunny winters days.
December and January
That would also have the nice effect of making winter seem just two months long
And as we are now out of the EU, we can do this. A True Brexit Bonus. More LIGHT
If you want to get up earlier or later, that's your choice. But kids going to school in daylight hours rather than when its dark is sensible.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-blame-game-over-failure-to-end-clock-change/
Left to my own devices, I get up much earlier in the summer than the winter.
The sensible thing to do surely is to pick a date where clock changes will happen, if they happen, then let individual countries (or even individual timezones within countries) determine whether summer time applies to them or not?
The Southern nations could then keep a single time all year around, and the northern nations could then have clocks change suiting them.
As for the UK 5:30pm is a perfectly reasonable time for it to go dark. It means kids have gone to school in the daylight, and come home in the daylight. Is it being "miserable" for dog walkers or anyone else having it be dark earlier in the evening worth the price of kids going to school when its still dark in the morning?
If grown ups wish to adjust their body clock to shift things they do an hour earlier, then that seems more sensible than having kids having to go to school in the dark.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Train_PlaneHub/status/1454915309371076614?s=20
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1454919569907257344
You do notice those extra minutes in the far west of Scotland, BTW. One of the reasons Scotland doesn't like BST in the winter is because it is 1hr 30min+ wrong, not just 1hr.
https://twitter.com/BTP/status/1454918295669420033?s=20
Stick to GMT..
Seriously though, I'd happily keep BST all the year round, or move to CET even lighter summer evenings) but changing our clocks on different dates to the rest of Europe gets seriously confusing, since on any day they could be 0, 1, or 2 hours ahead of us.
Oddly enough, December 21st is just about the longest solar day (for the moment, anyway).
Hopefully some of them will pay us a visit next time there is a parliamentary by election.
Edit: Brexit Summer Time! Neverending sunlit upland evenings (until it gets dark, at least).
“I don’t think, I know.”
https://twitter.com/BevanShields/status/1454867866734432257
MMT or bust.
I was at Christ Church. This time of year always reminds me of it. The first few weeks of the new academic year. Leaves turning in the meadow. The bell tolling at 9.05pm. Odd place though, I’d have chosen differently if I had my time again.
Whatever we do, we should stick with Portugal.
Unless you switch to personal branding.
It seems to present the 3 options as - BST all the time, CET (the same thing) all the time, and keep the same as now.
If GMT all the time was an option, it's not mentioned.
Goodnight all.
If you want to get up earlier then get up earlier. Why insist on having the government change the clocks to trick you into doing so?
The numbers we have are entirely arbitrary, except that noon is defined as the time when the sun is at its highest.
Why mess with that?
Get up earlier. Start work earlier. Finish work earlier. Have your dinner earlier. Whatever. Leave the clocks alone.
If we moved to permanent summertime all that would happen is that the times things happen at would shift later. The 9-5 would slowly become the 10-6. And then we'd have the same pointless argument all over again.
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They are so hurting. It's a kind of Suez for them
https://www.tntv.pf/tntvnews/monde/referendum-en-nouvelle-caledonie-seuls-des-criteres-sanitaires-pourraient-imposer-un-report-dit-lecornu/
We can now officially declare Fox is not a conservative and never will be, just an ultra libertarian anti wokeist
https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1454872509430566914?s=20
I’d forgotten just how good were Tony (Candyman) Todd’s cameos. Seriously underrated/underused actor.
I don't think the abolition of the monarchy after the queen is a particularly fringe opinion. My guess is that around 30-40% of this board would agree with it, along with a good number of Conservative voters.
To answer Mike’s question, I’d have BST year round for England and Wales, and GMT during the winter in Scotland. You could rebrand it Glasgow Mean Time.
30-40% of the electorate may become republicans once the Queen goes, not a single one of them will be a conservative. Most of them will be socialists (61% of republicans vote Labour and only 13% vote Conservative), the minority who happen to support the Conservative Party are not conservatives, merely centre right libertarians or liberals just voting for the Conservative Party to keep Labour out
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/05/18/who-are-monarchists
I have been a republican most of my life though I am very fond of the Queen
After the Queen passes we need a much scaled down monarchy
And I have been a conservative many years more than you have been on this planet
They only thing I would say is that, having worked on Sweden in winter, I found going to work in the gloom and coming back in the dark quite depressing. It's nice to have proper daylight light at least one of before and after work. Probably lose that oop north with year round GMT.
You are just a centre right leaning swing voter who dislikes socialism and likes the Queen but has no loyalty to monarchy as an institution. By definition therefore you are not a Tory. In any case Charles has already made clear he will have a more scaled down monarchy when he becomes King
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/a-brief-history-of-irish-time-1.1572097
There's like an hereditary thing that kinda comes with the whole gig.
And I am not centre right and Boris move to the left is nearer my politics then he is to yours
Not sure what @hyufd made of him.
You do the party no service by your narrow minded attitudes that are frankly embarrassing