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This polling trend doesn’t look good for ministers – politicalbetting.com

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    AslanAslan Posts: 1,673
    rcs1000 said:

    BigRich said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Aslan said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    nico679 said:

    Zemmour has zero chance of winning the Presidency and his stunt today together with calling for more people to be armed will go down very badly . Barniers views seem to have been deliberately misreported by some Brexiters in an effort to paint him as some new convert .

    He fully supports freedom of movement and would never push for a Frexit .

    Didn't he talk about changes to freedom of movement not so long ago? Not sure that's consistent with him being someone who 'fully supports' it.
    My guess, FWIW, is that there is close to a majority position in the EU to return freedom of movement back to what it was pre-Maastricht. That is, you could go to another EU country and work, but that there was no presumption of benefits.
    Even if there was, once it had been done for a year or so, people would realise it wasn't enough to address mass immigration of low skilled people depressing local wages.
    Maybe, maybe not.

    But there isn't an unlimited number of low skilled people leaving Eastern Europe. The UK, even before Brexit, was seeing net outflows of people from the EU8.
    realy?

    in the years after the vote and before leaving 2016-2019 yes, but before that, i didn't think so, am I woring?
    I don't think we're in disagreement. For 2016, there was close to zero net migration to the UK from the eight, and it has since sped up slightly.

    https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/
    And that is from Poland, the Baltics which were reasonably well managed economically at home. Romania, Hungary... not so much. And then we have the Western Balkans still to join. Libertarians trying to push the Cameroon claim that changes to benefits eligibility will solve the problem know full well it won't change migration flows. It's just they are libertarians uninterested in the wellbeing of the poor so don't care.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,616
    "Calls to speed up booster rollout as study finds vaccinated people dying of coronavirus have average age of 85 and five underlying illnesses"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/20/covid-likely-fatal-old-already-infirm/
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    If there was any teeny, lingering doubt that Trump was running, he's building his own social media platform, Truth Social.
    Build our own bubble and they will come.

    https://news.sky.com/story/truth-social-donald-trump-to-launch-social-network-saying-your-favourite-president-has-been-silenced-12439821
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,670
    NEW THREAD
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,205
    Aslan said:

    nico679 said:

    Grim numbers for Biden.

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    Good grief the USA is screwed! The 39% figure is shocking and shows just how many now believe the lies about the election . Whilst many might be looking east and be concerned the USA could be just 3 years away from becoming a failed state .
    Plus Sinema and Manchin are knee capping all the funding mechanisms for Biden to get an agenda through reconciliation, and refuse to adapt the filibuster to do it through normal processes. The Dems will lose the House in 2022 and that GOP House will put Trump back in the White House regardless of the election result. The US will be in an early 2000s Russia situation with respect to democracy.
    And if that happens where will Britain's much vaunted shift to the US and the Pacific be then? Trump no more cares about Britain than he cares about any other foreign state.
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