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Lol, Starmer is so finished

How? Do you have a plan or are you just practicing your typing?

I would like to see Starmer go, and soon. But we have, I think, four or five posters who are just spamming the site with all this Starmer conjecture, and dear me they are dreary.

This place is not the intellectual debating society it used to be.

What do you expect and there is only one person to blame and that is Starmer

I doubt you complained when Johnson came under this fire and the 'spamming' as you call it then

If it upsets you, then you are experiencing the same dismay and concern conservative supporters had at the time of the Johnson's crisis

Did you read my post? I have said Starmer's time has been and gone. I am not even a Labour supporter these days and haven't been for a decade.

Anyway the handful of posters frotting themselves over Starmer's demise are not really my cup of tea. When we do push back, the response to hated non-right wing posters on here like Roger and myself is pretty personal these days.

I know, I know, if snowflakes can't take it they should just p*** off.

Anyway during Johnson's moments of jeopardy you were fighting to the death on his behalf. "Boris was ambushed by a cake, whilst Starmer was living it large in the middle of a lockdown with beer and a curry".*

* My precis.

Good night.

I did not fight for Johnson, indeed I wanted Sunak to urgently replace him, and Starmer got away with curry night but maybe that is the one time he was fortunate

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Still think Our Party would have been a better name.

People's Front of Jezza? Or maybe the Tooting Popular Front?

Give me fucking strength.

It seems now those baying most this weekend for some kind of flag waving revolution of the hard right up from the streets are now tweeting it is a disgrace that apparently kids today don't know that the Battle of Britain helped beat the erm... checks notes...Nazis.

So is your contention that all 300k who went on the march are Nazis? Do not you see how that kind of rhetoric fuels actual violence. Some idiot might get it in their head that shooting or stabbing these people is "good" because they're "Nazis anyway".

This is exactly the kind of stupidity that leads to people killing other people for no reason.

They went to a rally organised by a far right racist with multiple convictions for violence and fraud, the speakers were also far right racists, and many of the chants were racist.

So it may well be that not all of the 110 000 or so on the march are far right racists, but they are at the very least willing to be in the company of far right racists.

The grim consequence of calling everyone who says anything that is disagreed with a far right, racist fascist . . . It loses all meaning.

Including for those who actually are that.

Boy who cried wolf ends with an actual wolf.

It seems to be ending with radical leftists shooting people at the moment. Remember, words are violence and shooting Nazis is peaceful.

Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot by a Radical Rightist three months ago.

They don't count. They're of the left, and therefore MaxPB's enemy.

The thing is though, as a member of an ethnic minority, it's quite likely that the anti-immigrant feeling that Y-L and the Farage Party are stirring up will impact on his friends, family and community. I daresay even then, it will be the left at fault.

I see Starmer was aware of emails but didn't think to ask what was in them. He really does take this keeping his desk empty very seriously.

Also, the way PMs deny knowledge of goings on in #10, anybody would think it was the size of Apple HQ when in fact its bloody tiny set of offices.

Um actually it's quite large, with corridors/doors linking it to Number 11 and the other building to the East whose name I've forgotten because it's 01:38am and my brain hurt.

And most of those offices exist in order to keep things away from the Prime Minister's desk. One of the criticisms of Gordon Brown was that he tried to be over everything which turned his desk into a chokepoint.

It’s a problem when the PM is trying to micromanage every department, but it’s also a problem when the general impression is that at best the PM hasn’t got a clue what’s going on in government, or at worst he appears to be actively ensuring he’s not being informed about whatever next week’s scandal might turn out to be.

There’s clearly people inside government coming for him, he must know that a key week for international diplomacy in about to get undermined by the Mandelson story, if only because the US media are going to want to use Epstein as a stick with which to beat Trump.

Give me fucking strength.

It seems now those baying most this weekend for some kind of flag waving revolution of the hard right up from the streets are now tweeting it is a disgrace that apparently kids today don't know that the Battle of Britain helped beat the erm... checks notes...Nazis.

So is your contention that all 300k who went on the march are Nazis? Do not you see how that kind of rhetoric fuels actual violence. Some idiot might get it in their head that shooting or stabbing these people is "good" because they're "Nazis anyway".

This is exactly the kind of stupidity that leads to people killing other people for no reason.

They went to a rally organised by a far right racist with multiple convictions for violence and fraud, the speakers were also far right racists, and many of the chants were racist.

So it may well be that not all of the 110 000 or so on the march are far right racists, but they are at the very least willing to be in the company of far right racists.

The grim consequence of calling everyone who says anything that is disagreed with a far right, racist fascist . . . It loses all meaning.

Including for those who actually are that.

Boy who cried wolf ends with an actual wolf.

But Tommy Robinson is a far right racist, with convictions for violence and fraud.

If you do not understand that, then words have no meaning.

Similarly the speakers included the well known far right racists Elon Musk, Ant Middleton etc.

I am not calling the entire march far right and racist, but at the very least they are gullible and open to listening to far right racists.

Uniting the Kingdom? My arse.

Or, or they don't care about any of the speakers and they just want to march against mass immigration and erosion of our culture. One of my school friends went on the march, he's Jewish and said that he felt much, much safer on the supposed "far right" side of the march than when he walked through the other side of it to get there. Excuse me if I take the word of someone who actually went, is a currently persecuted minority and told us all that he was very welcome at the Unite the Kingdom march.

He was worried about telling us because he thought we would judge him poorly but if anything the reaction has been largely positive tonight in our group chat. A few of the others were glad that it was a peaceful march and are open to going to the next one.

I have been on marches where the SWP or Communists are present, but I wouldn't go on one organised by them, where they chose all the speakers.

It looks like you've chosen your side in the next Battle of Cable St. These are not nice people, they are violent thugs.

And this is your problem, I've chosen no sides. Well other than I'm 99% likely to be voting and campaigning for the Tories again. The side I'm on is whoever will bring down unskilled immigration, send the current unskilled immigrants and dependents home, stop the boats, cut spending to bring the deficit down and stop raising tax. I don't think there's any party which will do that but I expect the Tories to get close.

You said you were open to going on the next march that Tommy Robinson organises. I am glad that you are already having second thoughts.

I didn't say that?

This is what I actually said "A few of the others were glad that it was a peaceful march and are open to going to the next one."

Where in that sentence did you pick up that I would go to the next march? I'm happy that there was a big lack of the expected violence but I wouldn't go to any march where Robinson is speaking, he's a grade A ****.

So a boost for Burnham's candidate Powell then in the race to be Labour members pet, Lammy will be Deputy PM still regardless.

Terrible ratings from Starmer amongst his own members and not great for his candidate Philippson ether.

Fortunately for him he can only face a direct leadership challenge, not a VONC under Labour rules and his biggest threat, Burnham, is not an MP

A shame his Party should be turning against him for Rayner's flat and appointing Mandy. Had it been for his support for Netanyahu's genocide then we could all get behind a new leader

Starmer has opposed the genocide and backed a 2 state solution still so not sure that is fair

UK gov says it's not a genocide, so I'm not sure that's true:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/09/uk-not-concluded-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-lammy-says