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Musk speaks at the protest via video link. What a world we live in.

This fuckwit needs to focus on his businesses and not supporting these scumbags

If he ever comes to this country he needs to be arrested for this. Inciting violence and indeed insurrection. Right now he should be banned and so should his companies.

I think that would be something of an overreaction.

Why? Why does the law not apply to him? Because he is rich? It's ridiculous.

Yes, that unfortunately is the reason the law doesn’t apply to him.

It’s not just the money

It’s the fact he owns X, starlink and SpaceX, and can therefore cause almost any national government serious grief. AND he has the ear of the POTUS, even if Trump sometimes abjures him

And after Kirk’s death I expect the American right to band together in the face of a lethal enemy. There will be less internal feuding

We may wish it otherwise - I often do, bring back the British empire - but a mere British prime minister is arguably less powerful than a man like Musk

It is becoming increasingly clear that we have to decide between Europe, an alliance of equals, and poodle status with the US.

I don't particularly fancy being a pet dog.

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@Gabriel_Pogrund

NEW🚨Keir Starmer received official two-page document detailing Peter Mandelson's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein before making him US ambassador

Cab Office propriety & ethics team report said contact postdated conviction

PM did not change stance

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1966912404601938100

Starting to get serious for Starmer.

I'd vaguely assumed that Mandelson's association with Epstein had been in the public domain for several years. Was this association completely unknown until the last few days?

I think Starmer was asked about Yum Yum using Jeff's place post-conviction in an interview a few months before he became PM

A new twist


EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.

https://x.com/brookesingman/status/1966889202412347602?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

I mean the whole bulge/OwO thing was a giveaway that he was in the queer/transgender/furry sphere so this shouldn't be a surprise...

Not really. It's more that he's Very Online. It's a meme.

https://trending.knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/what-is-the-notices-bulge-owo-whats-this-meme-the-phrase-inscribed-on-the-casing-of-the-bullet-fired-at-charlie-kirk-explained

See also https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5320111/#Comment_5320111

No, it's very specific to the queer/furry/trans space on Discord. It's all online culture but this is specific to that space, not anything else.

How the flying feck do Capita/ TV Licencing get away with this?
I get at least one dodgy letter a month from them, but this is pure bollocks.

Which part of it is bullshit?

I just went to the /notv link and haven't had a letter since.

In my experience they'll start messaging you again about 11 months after your declaration of notv. Maybe less. They need to make sure (and keep making sure) you're really really not watching anything they can tax you for.

I assume at that point I can go to the link again.

If anyone ever did come to the door to check what I'm watching I'm pretty sure I'd just tell them to bugger off, though given some people are convicted I assume they do go to people's houses sometimes so its not an empty threat. How they get any evidence, unless they can see the TV from outside the house, is beyond me.

Last time I used the link, it insisted that you declare how you do watch this and that and the other. There was no way to answer None. I gave up trying and wrote them one last snail-mail.

Musk speaks at the protest via video link. What a world we live in.

This fuckwit needs to focus on his businesses and not supporting these scumbags

If he ever comes to this country he needs to be arrested for this. Inciting violence and indeed insurrection. Right now he should be banned and so should his companies.

I think that would be something of an overreaction.

Why? Why does the law not apply to him? Because he is rich? It's ridiculous.

Yes, that unfortunately is the reason the law doesn’t apply to him.

It’s not just the money

It’s the fact he owns X, starlink and SpaceX, and can therefore cause almost any national government serious grief. AND he has the ear of the POTUS, even if Trump sometimes abjures him

And after Kirk’s death I expect the American right to band together in the face of a lethal enemy. There will be less internal feuding

We may wish it otherwise - I often do, bring back the British empire - but a mere British prime minister is arguably less powerful than a man like Musk

A new twist


EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.

https://x.com/brookesingman/status/1966889202412347602?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

I mean the whole bulge/OwO thing was a giveaway that he was in the queer/transgender/furry sphere so this shouldn't be a surprise...

Not really. It's more that he's Very Online. It's a meme.

https://trending.knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/what-is-the-notices-bulge-owo-whats-this-meme-the-phrase-inscribed-on-the-casing-of-the-bullet-fired-at-charlie-kirk-explained

See also https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5320111/#Comment_5320111

Oops

@Gabriel_Pogrund

NEW🚨Keir Starmer received official two-page document detailing Peter Mandelson's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein before making him US ambassador

Cab Office propriety & ethics team report said contact postdated conviction

PM did not change stance

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1966912404601938100

He is indeed a muppet of the first water. Is this really the best we can do?

Didn't you opt to sit on your hands in the election? Now you're complaining that Labour aren't up to the job. Sorry David this next 4 years of failure is on you and the other million Tory voters who sat on their hands and watched while Labour got handed a gigantic majority for a tiny number of votes. People like Leon bear some of the responsibility too for getting caught up in that idiotic attitude of "oh the Tories must be punished" without thinking about the consequences of that and voting for Labour knowing how much damage they would inflict on the nation.

I went out and campaigned, had doors shut in my face, got shouted at, sworn at and tried to make sure it wasn't a complete disaster because we all knew what Labour would do with untrammeled power and so it has happened.

I gave Starmer the benefit of the doubt. I honestly and sincerely had absolutely no idea he would be THIS terrible. Who did? Maybe @Casino_Royale

Do I regret my vote? Not really. Inasmuch as I voted with the info available to me. I couldn’t vote Tory because of the last 14 years. Obvs. I was tempted to go reform but then Farage made those weird pro Putin noises at exactly the wrong moment. I despise the Lib Dems

So I thought Why not. He might be surprisingly competent. If anyone can reform the NHS it’s Labour - Tories too scared etc

Oh well

I think it was me, CR and HYFUD warning the rest of you on the centre right not to listen to the mob baying for Tory blood because of Liz Truss and Boris Johnson. If Rishi had taken over two years earlier between him and Hunt the country would have been in a much better place today and I don't think the party would have been wiped out. It was Rishi that turned off the immigration tap, it was Rishi that pushed for the Rwanda scheme and faced off against the liberal wanky judges, it was Rishi that put a halt to the chagos islands surrender. You judged the Tories on the basis of what Boris and Liz Truss did, which is fair, but ultimately they were gone and there's no doubt that Rishi was a better PM than Starmer and Hunt a better Chancellor than Reeves.

I think you and a couple of million soft centre right voters got caught up in the media nonsense about "punishing" the Tories and forgot that the resulting Labour government would be worse in all aspects, especially on immigration and stopping the boats.

The Tories deserve to go extinct for the Boriswave. Not just lose an election. They need to die out completely. What they did is unforgivable

I want them replaced by reform ASAP and it seems a large chunk of the country agrees with me

How can they ever come back from what they did?

Oops

@Gabriel_Pogrund

NEW🚨Keir Starmer received official two-page document detailing Peter Mandelson's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein before making him US ambassador

Cab Office propriety & ethics team report said contact postdated conviction

PM did not change stance

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1966912404601938100

He is indeed a muppet of the first water. Is this really the best we can do?

Didn't you opt to sit on your hands in the election? Now you're complaining that Labour aren't up to the job. Sorry David this next 4 years of failure is on you and the other million Tory voters who sat on their hands and watched while Labour got handed a gigantic majority for a tiny number of votes. People like Leon bear some of the responsibility too for getting caught up in that idiotic attitude of "oh the Tories must be punished" without thinking about the consequences of that and voting for Labour knowing how much damage they would inflict on the nation.

I went out and campaigned, had doors shut in my face, got shouted at, sworn at and tried to make sure it wasn't a complete disaster because we all knew what Labour would do with untrammeled power and so it has happened.

I gave Starmer the benefit of the doubt. I honestly and sincerely had absolutely no idea he would be THIS terrible. Who did? Maybe @Casino_Royale

Do I regret my vote? Not really. Inasmuch as I voted with the info available to me. I couldn’t vote Tory because of the last 14 years. Obvs. I was tempted to go reform but then Farage made those weird pro Putin noises at exactly the wrong moment. I despise the Lib Dems

So I thought Why not. He might be surprisingly competent. If anyone can reform the NHS it’s Labour - Tories too scared etc

Oh well

I think it was me, CR and HYFUD warning the rest of you on the centre right not to listen to the mob baying for Tory blood because of Liz Truss and Boris Johnson. If Rishi had taken over two years earlier between him and Hunt the country would have been in a much better place today and I don't think the party would have been wiped out. It was Rishi that turned off the immigration tap, it was Rishi that pushed for the Rwanda scheme and faced off against the liberal wanky judges, it was Rishi that put a halt to the chagos islands surrender. You judged the Tories on the basis of what Boris and Liz Truss did, which is fair, but ultimately they were gone and there's no doubt that Rishi was a better PM than Starmer and Hunt a better Chancellor than Reeves.

I think you and a couple of million soft centre right voters got caught up in the media nonsense about "punishing" the Tories and forgot that the resulting Labour government would be worse in all aspects, especially on immigration and stopping the boats.

The Tories deserve to go extinct for the Boriswave. Not just lose an election. They need to die out completely. What they did is unforgivable

I want them replaced by reform ASAP and it seems a large chunk of the country agrees with me

How can they ever come back from what they did?

How many of the Boriswave were refugees from Ukraine and from Hong Kong?

Musk speaks at the protest via video link. What a world we live in.

This fuckwit needs to focus on his businesses and not supporting these scumbags

If he ever comes to this country he needs to be arrested for this. Inciting violence and indeed insurrection. Right now he should be banned and so should his companies.

I think that would be something of an overreaction.

Why? Why does the law not apply to him? Because he is rich? It's ridiculous.