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Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
Just seen an update from Sky that Mandleson was appointed 'despite security concerns'I would be unsurprised if the 'security concerns' had little to do with Epstein.
If so...Starmer is in real danger.
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
Just seen an update from Sky that Mandleson was appointed 'despite security concerns'
If so...Starmer is in real danger.
If so...Starmer is in real danger.
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
Your regular reminder that the PIRA aren’t “Christian Terrorists”You’re of a similar age to me and in our lifetimes six MPs have been murdered, one by a far right extremist, one by a Muslim terrorist, and four by Christian terrorists.I try to remember both, and also Gow. I could go back further, but they're really beyond my political time.People pick whichever one matches their prejudices, and elevate that while minimizing the other.@headfallsoff.comOne of the saddest things in modern UK politics is the way Jo Cox has been elevated, whilst David Amess has been relatively forgotten. Both murdered by political/religious extremists.
every time there's political violence discourse i think about how jo cox was assassinated in broad daylight by a fascist who shouted "britain first" as he shot her, and now nine years later her party is dedicating every moment in power to placating the ideology of her murderer
https://bsky.app/profile/headfallsoff.com/post/3lyjfuonko223
I’d add Cllr Andrew Pennington who was murdered trying to stop a mentally ill murdering an MP.
Terrorists are labeled by their aims, generally. The PIRA “claimed” to be the heirs of 1798 - which was a joint Protestant & Catholic undertaking - religious freedom for all. Hence the usual label of “Republican Terrorists”
The Loyalists are (and were) very often simply anti-Catholic. Hence they are sometimes referred to as “Protestant Paramilitaries” or “Protestant Terrorists”
Actual Christian Terrorists exist of course - classic would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
Burnham on maneuversHe has been since last Sunday's politics shows
https://x.com/jessicaelgot/status/1966147553378054352
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
There’s precedent for this.Just seen an update from Sky that Mandleson was appointed 'despite security concerns'Oooft - yep, that would do it, if there’s a smoking gun.
If so...Starmer is in real danger.
Two officers from MI5 visited Downing Street in 2020 to brief Boris Johnson on the national security risks of giving Evgeny Lebedev a seat for life in the upper house of Parliament.
The then prime minister argued that the life peerage could go ahead because the MI5 officers’ security concerns were about Evgeny Lebedev’s father Alexander, a KGB-officer-turned-oligarch who has since been sanctioned by Canada and Ukraine for supporting Vladimir Putin’s war.
As the first case of a prime minister dismissing national security advice to make an appointment to the House of Lords, Evgeny Lebedev’s peerage has led to accusations of patronage, cronyism, and calls to reform the upper chamber. The case also represents Boris Johnson’s unserious approach to national security during his premiership, according to one of his former senior national security advisers in Downing Street.
https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2023/06/26/mi5-visited-downing-street-to-warn-boris-johnson-against-evgeny-lebedevs-peerage
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
Do you put Bozo on that list?Depends what job, plenty of lawyers and journalists and politicians have been very successful at their jobs despite being lying scumbagsWhatever you think about Mandelson and his sometimes poor judgement overall he is competent at the jobs he does, whether as Business or NI Secretary or in his most recent post as DC Ambassador. He is also ruthlessly effective as a campaigner, it was Mandelson who helped Kinnock bring back Labour from the abyss after their 1983 Foot led rout, it was Mandelson who played a key part in New Labour's landslide of 1997 and it was Mandelson who helped Brown narrow the gap in 2010 enough for a hung parliament, hence he never sacked him. Mandelson also worked behind the scenes on Starmer's 2024 win after the defeats of the Corbyn and Ed Miliband years.I have found that employing lying scumbags because they are "good at their jobs" is not a recipe for long term success.
He is gone for now but he may be back, as he has been before. Not as an elected politician or grand Ambassador, but as an effective behind the scenes man
Not -for the record- that I am alleging that anyone in particular is a lying scumbag.
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
"Protestants who are and were as Christian as Catholics"Their main objective was to 'free' Northern Ireland and Ulster from British rule and create a United Ireland ie nationalism not religion, they also targeted Northern Irish and British Protestants who are and were as Christian as CatholicsThey said their objectives was to free Catholics who were being persecuted.Since when were the IRA Christian terrorists?You’re of a similar age to me and in our lifetimes six MPs have been murdered, one by a far right extremist, one by a Muslim terrorist, and four by Christian terrorists.I try to remember both, and also Gow. I could go back further, but they're really beyond my political time.People pick whichever one matches their prejudices, and elevate that while minimizing the other.@headfallsoff.comOne of the saddest things in modern UK politics is the way Jo Cox has been elevated, whilst David Amess has been relatively forgotten. Both murdered by political/religious extremists.
every time there's political violence discourse i think about how jo cox was assassinated in broad daylight by a fascist who shouted "britain first" as he shot her, and now nine years later her party is dedicating every moment in power to placating the ideology of her murderer
https://bsky.app/profile/headfallsoff.com/post/3lyjfuonko223
I’d add Cllr Andrew Pennington who was murdered trying to stop a mentally ill murdering an MP.
That would be an ecumenical matter.
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
His daughter is fighting for justice but seems to be being stymied along the way.@headfallsoff.comOne of the saddest things in modern UK politics is the way Jo Cox has been elevated, whilst David Amess has been relatively forgotten. Both murdered by political/religious extremists.
every time there's political violence discourse i think about how jo cox was assassinated in broad daylight by a fascist who shouted "britain first" as he shot her, and now nine years later her party is dedicating every moment in power to placating the ideology of her murderer
https://bsky.app/profile/headfallsoff.com/post/3lyjfuonko223
I agree with you on this. Both are awful.

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Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
I work in an industry where Epstein helped bring down a big name or two.The other mysterious thing is quite how Epstein got so rich, while being so generous to everyone that he met.Mandelson's drug of choice is power, and Epstein had lotsWhat I don't get is why Mandelson was so keen to curry favour with Epstein? What was in it for him?It's curious the hold Epstein was able to have over some people - Mandelson seemed absolutely besotted. Yet others felt seriously uneasy the moment they clapped eyes on him and ran a mile.
Someone was paying for all this.
The talk (and there’s plenty of evidence) that his fortune came from Israeli intelligence in exchange for well intelligence and kompromat.
Fun fact, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father was a longstanding agent of Mossad.
Re: Oh, Mandy, Well, you came, And you gave without taking, But I sent you away – politicalbetting.com
Whatever you think about Mandelson and his sometimes poor judgement overall he is competent at the jobs he does, whether as Business or NI Secretary or in his most recent post as DC Ambassador. He is also ruthlessly effective as a campaigner, it was Mandelson who helped Kinnock bring back Labour from the abyss after their 1983 Foot led rout, it was Mandelson who played a key part in New Labour's landslide of 1997 and it was Mandelson who helped Brown narrow the gap in 2010 enough for a hung parliament, hence he never sacked him. Mandelson also worked behind the scenes on Starmer's 2024 win after the defeats of the Corbyn and Ed Miliband years.Have you never had to sack someone who was supremely good at their job but cut corners and took risks which jeopardised everyone elses future employment?
He is gone for now but he may be back, as he has been before. Not as an elected politician or grand Ambassador, but as an effective behind the scenes man
At that very moment one asks them for their company car keys one's heart sinks because you know they would be the one that one could count on to hit their targets and yours.
I once went to the county court in Swansea to recover money owed from a guy called Jones. I had put my case before the Judge? and Jones put up little defence. The Judge awarded my company everything that I had requested. As I gathered my papers I noticed that my salesman had himself signed the sales documents on behalf of Jones but with the name Davies. I said nothing, but when I got back I sacked the lying f*****.