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Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Badenoch rules out a deal with Farage and ReformA formal deal? Maybe. Informal? Of course they would.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15916521/amp/Kemi-Farage-split-Makerfield-Burnham.html
It's sensible though - Reform mock Tories who beg for a deal, so they have to reciprocate for dignity's sake.
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Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Badenoch's problem is not her answer, but that the question is being asked, and it is being asked repeatedly, drowning out anything else she might want to say.Ruling out putting Farage in power would be equivalent to committing to forming a 'coalition of chaos' even if Reform have 300+ MPs. Her position is the only politically sensible one.Badenoch rules out a deal with Farage and ReformAgain she's ruling out a pact, but AFAICS she's not ruling out putting Nigel Farage in power.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15916521/amp/Kemi-Farage-split-Makerfield-Burnham.html
Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
That was more putting the Greens in power.She can't without losing support. Didn't she suspend a group for cutting a deal to keep out Reform?Badenoch rules out a deal with Farage and ReformAgain she's ruling out a pact, but AFAICS she's not ruling out putting Nigel Farage in power.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15916521/amp/Kemi-Farage-split-Makerfield-Burnham.html
Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Ukraine bombed Kerch in Crimea last night. They took out a ferry, port infrastructure, oil storage facilities, and up to four air defence systems set up to protect the bridge.
https://x.com/gerashchenko_en/status/2068618368089731241
https://x.com/grandparoy2/status/2068568433609072928
I wonder what might happen next…?
https://x.com/gerashchenko_en/status/2068618368089731241
https://x.com/grandparoy2/status/2068568433609072928
I wonder what might happen next…?
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Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
The Manchester by election for Mayor is on Thursday 30th July.Today's hot offering from Rawnsley, obviously on topic:If Labour want to win the Mayoral election - they can't have SKS leading the campaign - they need Burnham sat in No 10..
It would be unwise to leap to the assumption that the King In The North will now sweep southwards to effortlessly seize the crown jewels of Downing Street.
For his devotees, this was a “proof-of-concept” byelection. Get on with it and put the messiah of Manchester in Downing Street. That will be the siren song of the Burnhamites. [But] Bar superglueing the front door of Number 10, the incumbent has done everything he can to indicate that he will only be dragged out of the building by his fingernails.
Sir Keir has already suggested that, if there is to be a contest for the top job, the battle should not be joined before the people of Greater Manchester have decided who will be their next mayor in the byelection for the vacancy which will now ensue. That can’t be resolved before the very end of July, which is surely one of the reasons for making this suggestion. Sir Keir buys himself more time at Number 10 while increasing the chance that some of the shine will come off his rival as Mr Burnham is subject to elevated scrutiny.
This presents Team Andy with a dilemma. Press on with a near-immediate challenge for Number 10 and his enemies will portray him as a man who is entirely self-centred and too consumed by personal ambition to care what happens to the city he was running five minutes ago.
Camp Burnham would much prefer Sir Keir to agree to set a departure date. It is widely believed that Mr Burnham will urge the prime minister to take this course when they have what will surely be an excruciatingly awkward conversation with each other. Quite a lot of the cabinet favour this way forward. If he continues to spurn that advice, the test...will be whether they are prepared to resign from the government, with all the chaos that would entail, to attempt to bend him to their will. Others in the cabinet fume in opposition to the idea that Mr Burnham should be simply gifted the top job without a proper contest.
[Makerfield voters] have propelled Andy Burnham in the direction of Number 10, but that is not in itself enough to get him over the threshold. What happens next will depend on the feverish calculations made down in Westminster by the most senior politicians in the land.
So I stick with my forecast that Burnham will become PM on Thursday 17th July, the day before recess.
This allows Burnham to campaign in the Manchester by election as PM with no parliamentary business to distract him. The only date in his diary will be the EU Summit in Brussels on 22nd July.
Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
It took six weeks for Brown to replace Blair in 2007, how do we think the party can truncate the process down to less than four weeks now?The Manchester by election for Mayor is on Thursday 30th July.Today's hot offering from Rawnsley, obviously on topic:If Labour want to win the Mayoral election - they can't have SKS leading the campaign - they need Burnham sat in No 10..
It would be unwise to leap to the assumption that the King In The North will now sweep southwards to effortlessly seize the crown jewels of Downing Street.
For his devotees, this was a “proof-of-concept” byelection. Get on with it and put the messiah of Manchester in Downing Street. That will be the siren song of the Burnhamites. [But] Bar superglueing the front door of Number 10, the incumbent has done everything he can to indicate that he will only be dragged out of the building by his fingernails.
Sir Keir has already suggested that, if there is to be a contest for the top job, the battle should not be joined before the people of Greater Manchester have decided who will be their next mayor in the byelection for the vacancy which will now ensue. That can’t be resolved before the very end of July, which is surely one of the reasons for making this suggestion. Sir Keir buys himself more time at Number 10 while increasing the chance that some of the shine will come off his rival as Mr Burnham is subject to elevated scrutiny.
This presents Team Andy with a dilemma. Press on with a near-immediate challenge for Number 10 and his enemies will portray him as a man who is entirely self-centred and too consumed by personal ambition to care what happens to the city he was running five minutes ago.
Camp Burnham would much prefer Sir Keir to agree to set a departure date. It is widely believed that Mr Burnham will urge the prime minister to take this course when they have what will surely be an excruciatingly awkward conversation with each other. Quite a lot of the cabinet favour this way forward. If he continues to spurn that advice, the test...will be whether they are prepared to resign from the government, with all the chaos that would entail, to attempt to bend him to their will. Others in the cabinet fume in opposition to the idea that Mr Burnham should be simply gifted the top job without a proper contest.
[Makerfield voters] have propelled Andy Burnham in the direction of Number 10, but that is not in itself enough to get him over the threshold. What happens next will depend on the feverish calculations made down in Westminster by the most senior politicians in the land.
So I stick with my forecast that Burnham will become PM on Thursday 17th July, the day before recess.
This allows Burnham to campaign in the Manchester by election as PM with no parliamentary business to distract him. The only date in his diary will be the EU Summit in Brussels on 22nd July.
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Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Burnham leads Starmer on “is an experienced leader”, which is clearly nonsense given their respective CVs. Which shows you how much vibes matter.
Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Badenoch rules out a deal with Farage and ReformAgain she's ruling out a pact, but AFAICS she's not ruling out putting Nigel Farage in power.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15916521/amp/Kemi-Farage-split-Makerfield-Burnham.html
Re: By every metric Burnham leads Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Who will collapse first? England, or Starmer?I reckon Starmer makes it to lunch, so England to go first.
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