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Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
Earth to viewcode: We know!What, are Rishi and Coutinho shagging? Are they going at it like a pile-driver? Has he found a little stool (to stand on, you filthy-minded perves)? Are they up a tree, kay ay ess ess ey en gee? Are they doing rudies? Is he sheathing the pink sword? ARE THEY SHARING A SPECIAL HUG?A very very good friend if Rishi Sunak apparentlyCourtinho is certainly good and one for future. Brixian is obviously not right in the tattie thinking that big turnip Mordaunt is anything other than totally useless.Courtinho is quite good at PMQs. Certainly better than Badenoch. Although she has said some questionable stuff if I am remembering correctly.The alternative should be an aging MP retiring, a by election and Penny Mordaunt parachuted in.I think most non-Conservatives think more power to her undiluted self-belief, elbow until the next GE. I would be very surprised if she has the wherewithal to become Prime Minister which means another five years of non- Conservative governments.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Unfortunately the alternative might be even more conservative. Be careful what I wish for?
A contest then between. Mordaunt and whoever the right flank could drag up.
Penny is everything Badenoch isnt
A good communicator
An experienced negotiaor
Personable
An air of humility
Open
Honest
Concilliatory
(narrator: viewcode is asking if they have had sex)
Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
How many voters want a centre right party which is pro EU and aren't already voting LD anyway? Hague and Howard and IDS to be fair to them at least united the right. To get back into power the Tories need to become the main party of the right again and regain voters lost to Reform first and then reach out to the centre as well (unless we get PR). Arguably Restore eating into the Reform vote from tomorrow and Burnham becoming Labour leader and shifting the government left so a few centrist voters shift to the Tories in response would help the party more than anything Kemi doesBadenoch has The Hague/Howard/IDS slot, and the Tories won’t get a proper hearing until they move on to the next generation, untainted by previous failures (à la Cameron), and convincingly recant their ideological anti-Europeanism.Surely the situation in which the Tory party finds itself is somewhat Sui Generis.Intense curiosity actually.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Badenoch is objectively a failure. Any previous Conservative leader would be out the door by now on her performance. But for some reason her partisans think she's pretty good. I have no idea why they think that.
If you told IDS or Hague in the early 2000s that they could have a Labour government languishing at around 20% in the polls two years after winning a substantial landslide, they would have bitten your hand off.
Explain that the Tory score is also about 20%, and has fallen since they lost the last election, and they would have looked really confused.
Is Badenoch objectively a failure? She's scored a good few hits on Starmer (the humble address over Mandelson being the biggest win), and ably assisted the Labour Party in their rush to ensure they are unelectable again for a generation.
On the other hand, none of this appears to have done her party any good, the voters haven't yet forgiven them for their last term on office.
Personally, I can't see any other Tory doing substantially better than her - their problem is that they've Ratnered the brand.
I think I would say at this point that the present *Tory party* is a failure, and therefore successfully leading it is impossible.
HYUFD
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Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
The stuff that came straight from Russia?Is it OK for Vickers to promote the Starmer stuff?He truly is a nasty piece of shit with that comment. If he hadn’t bored us to tears about his love of a crap midlands football team I would assume he was a pissed up Al Campbell.It would be better for everyone if he doesn't.Are you trying to make some sort of innuendo? If so have some bollocks and come out with it.A very very good friend if Rishi Sunak apparentlyCourtinho is certainly good and one for future. Brixian is obviously not right in the tattie thinking that big turnip Mordaunt is anything other than totally useless.Courtinho is quite good at PMQs. Certainly better than Badenoch. Although she has said some questionable stuff if I am remembering correctly.The alternative should be an aging MP retiring, a by election and Penny Mordaunt parachuted in.I think most non-Conservatives think more power to her undiluted self-belief, elbow until the next GE. I would be very surprised if she has the wherewithal to become Prime Minister which means another five years of non- Conservative governments.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Unfortunately the alternative might be even more conservative. Be careful what I wish for?
A contest then between. Mordaunt and whoever the right flank could drag up.
Penny is everything Badenoch isnt
A good communicator
An experienced negotiaor
Personable
An air of humility
Open
Honest
Concilliatory
Making up shit like that though to score political points is fucking low.
Foxy
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Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
She's got the same lack of credibility problem that Badenoch has.The Energy Secretary stuff can't be true. Claire Courtinho is very, very opposed to net zero. See PMQs today.Calm down, Claire Coutinho was Sunak's SPAD when he was at the Treasury, he thought about appointing her Chancellor.Are you trying to make some sort of innuendo? If so have some bollocks and come out with it.A very very good friend if Rishi Sunak apparentlyCourtinho is certainly good and one for future. Brixian is obviously not right in the tattie thinking that big turnip Mordaunt is anything other than totally useless.Courtinho is quite good at PMQs. Certainly better than Badenoch. Although she has said some questionable stuff if I am remembering correctly.The alternative should be an aging MP retiring, a by election and Penny Mordaunt parachuted in.I think most non-Conservatives think more power to her undiluted self-belief, elbow until the next GE. I would be very surprised if she has the wherewithal to become Prime Minister which means another five years of non- Conservative governments.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Unfortunately the alternative might be even more conservative. Be careful what I wish for?
A contest then between. Mordaunt and whoever the right flank could drag up.
Penny is everything Badenoch isnt
A good communicator
An experienced negotiaor
Personable
An air of humility
Open
Honest
Concilliatory
The speculation has not gone unnoticed by Labour, with some frontbenchers fearing that Sunak will replace Hunt with Claire Coutinho, the net-zero secretary and one of his closest allies, to stop Rachel Reeves from claiming the mantle of Britain’s first female chancellor.
https://www.thetimes.com/money/tax/article/is-jeremy-hunt-the-right-person-to-help-sell-change-gg9mp3kxd
https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2023/12/08/the-next-chancellor/
There's plenty of articles showing he's a big fan of hers
https://www.politico.eu/article/claire-coutinho-the-uks-chancellor-in-the-wings/
Here's another PB thread
I think the best bet is on former Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero Claire Coutinho who I backed with Ladbrokes today at 50/1. She’s a Sunak favourite as this article from March shows and it wouldn’t surprise me if Sunak made her Shadow Chancellor this week.
https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2024/07/08/its-not-looking-good-for-suella-braverman/
I cannot find the article at the moment but there was another piece which showed recently she was taking a lot of advice from Sunak.
Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
No.Is it OK for Vickers to promote the Starmer stuff?He truly is a nasty piece of shit with that comment. If he hadn’t bored us to tears about his love of a crap midlands football team I would assume he was a pissed up Al Campbell.It would be better for everyone if he doesn't.Are you trying to make some sort of innuendo? If so have some bollocks and come out with it.A very very good friend if Rishi Sunak apparentlyCourtinho is certainly good and one for future. Brixian is obviously not right in the tattie thinking that big turnip Mordaunt is anything other than totally useless.Courtinho is quite good at PMQs. Certainly better than Badenoch. Although she has said some questionable stuff if I am remembering correctly.The alternative should be an aging MP retiring, a by election and Penny Mordaunt parachuted in.I think most non-Conservatives think more power to her undiluted self-belief, elbow until the next GE. I would be very surprised if she has the wherewithal to become Prime Minister which means another five years of non- Conservative governments.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Unfortunately the alternative might be even more conservative. Be careful what I wish for?
A contest then between. Mordaunt and whoever the right flank could drag up.
Penny is everything Badenoch isnt
A good communicator
An experienced negotiaor
Personable
An air of humility
Open
Honest
Concilliatory
Making up shit like that though to score political points is fucking low.
boulay
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Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
Calm down, Claire Coutinho was Sunak's SPAD when he was at the Treasury, he thought about appointing her Chancellor.Are you trying to make some sort of innuendo? If so have some bollocks and come out with it.A very very good friend if Rishi Sunak apparentlyCourtinho is certainly good and one for future. Brixian is obviously not right in the tattie thinking that big turnip Mordaunt is anything other than totally useless.Courtinho is quite good at PMQs. Certainly better than Badenoch. Although she has said some questionable stuff if I am remembering correctly.The alternative should be an aging MP retiring, a by election and Penny Mordaunt parachuted in.I think most non-Conservatives think more power to her undiluted self-belief, elbow until the next GE. I would be very surprised if she has the wherewithal to become Prime Minister which means another five years of non- Conservative governments.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Unfortunately the alternative might be even more conservative. Be careful what I wish for?
A contest then between. Mordaunt and whoever the right flank could drag up.
Penny is everything Badenoch isnt
A good communicator
An experienced negotiaor
Personable
An air of humility
Open
Honest
Concilliatory
The speculation has not gone unnoticed by Labour, with some frontbenchers fearing that Sunak will replace Hunt with Claire Coutinho, the net-zero secretary and one of his closest allies, to stop Rachel Reeves from claiming the mantle of Britain’s first female chancellor.
https://www.thetimes.com/money/tax/article/is-jeremy-hunt-the-right-person-to-help-sell-change-gg9mp3kxd
https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2023/12/08/the-next-chancellor/
There's plenty of articles showing he's a big fan of hers
https://www.politico.eu/article/claire-coutinho-the-uks-chancellor-in-the-wings/
Here's another PB thread
I think the best bet is on former Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero Claire Coutinho who I backed with Ladbrokes today at 50/1. She’s a Sunak favourite as this article from March shows and it wouldn’t surprise me if Sunak made her Shadow Chancellor this week.
https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2024/07/08/its-not-looking-good-for-suella-braverman/
I cannot find the article at the moment but there was another piece which showed recently she was taking a lot of advice from Sunak.
Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
How many times do people have to do that before they realise its a stupid idea?Streeting still needs his 81 signatures though.I'm sure Andy can lend him a few if need be.
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Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
This came up at Deputy PMQs today. No Hansard link yet.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/jun/17/keir-starmer-labour-leadership-contest-andy-burnham-makerfield-byelection-wes-streeting-latest-news-updatesPolitician fails to maintain a furious po-faced humourlessness at all times? The end of times are surely on us.
Tories defend Vickers laughing at homophobic jokes in TV interview, saying he was just 'trying to be polite'
Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
It would be better for everyone if he doesn't.Are you trying to make some sort of innuendo? If so have some bollocks and come out with it.A very very good friend if Rishi Sunak apparentlyCourtinho is certainly good and one for future. Brixian is obviously not right in the tattie thinking that big turnip Mordaunt is anything other than totally useless.Courtinho is quite good at PMQs. Certainly better than Badenoch. Although she has said some questionable stuff if I am remembering correctly.The alternative should be an aging MP retiring, a by election and Penny Mordaunt parachuted in.I think most non-Conservatives think more power to her undiluted self-belief, elbow until the next GE. I would be very surprised if she has the wherewithal to become Prime Minister which means another five years of non- Conservative governments.It's getting to you isn't it.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Unfortunately the alternative might be even more conservative. Be careful what I wish for?
A contest then between. Mordaunt and whoever the right flank could drag up.
Penny is everything Badenoch isnt
A good communicator
An experienced negotiaor
Personable
An air of humility
Open
Honest
Concilliatory
Re: Wes Streeting could be about to do Andy Burnham a huge favour – politicalbetting.com
Given the Labour shitshow you don't need to do much to look competent. When push comes to shove then lots will not want to risk voting in Reform nutters.The question isn't whether people like her or would vote for her, but whether they think she's doing a good job as leader of the party.https://x.com/luketryl/status/2067147715763478998The other mystery of British politics, apart from Starmer being vaguely but profoundly hated, is what anyone sees in Kemi Badenoch.
On leader net approval Badenoch hits a personal high at -1, almost breaking even, Davey is at -9, Farage at -14, Polanski -25 and Starmer is at the bottom of the list on -48.
Personally, I think she's doing a grand job, leading them precisely nowhere.
malcolmg
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