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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Sadly there's fairly recent evidence that that is no barrier.Rayner is very good as an attack dog and hyping up the base, but like Two Jags, there is absolutely no evidence she has the skills to do the top job.Genuine question. Why? What do you think would have made her a good PM? What evidence is there for this?I would have loved to have seen her as PM but I accept she’s a bit of a Marmite character .Is this trust a lot more complicated than what we’ve already heard ? And wouldn’t those tax advisers have asked for more detail before giving their advice if that was the case .If she's done for its a win for the UK. She is ghastly in so many ways. The thought of her as Prine Minister is just hideous.
I tend to think Rayner genuinely didn’t try and rip off the HMRC because that would have been just so short sighted and risky given what happened last year .
Surely no one would be this stupid . It could be that she simply can’t prove that it was a genuine error and will end up going because of that .
This would be a massive loss to Labour because she was seen as the natural successor to Starmer , someone with a back story that meant she was seen as one of us not one of them .
Or just shits and giggles?

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
I think an issue was a great deal of New Labour was his invention and so a lot of the policy had been done by the time he got to Downing Street.Brown baffled me. I think he is an intelligent chap. I think he allowed himself to believe his own legend and basically rode a wave of prosperity during the good times. But surely after trying for so long to get to the top he ought to have had some idea of what he wanted to do? And yet apparently not.Its an absolutely insanely tough job, especially for the foreseeable future, as Rishi found out and Starmer is finding out. Brown couldn't do it, May couldn't do it, Boris and Truss were a shit show. Blair and Cameron are the only two that looked like they could at least keep the ship heading in the direction they had plotted.She’s not wooden and would show a lot more vision for the country . She’s relatable and if you get the right people around you it’s not such a tough gig .Genuine question. Why? What do you think would have made her a good PM? What evidence is there for this?I would have loved to have seen her as PM but I accept she’s a bit of a Marmite character .Is this trust a lot more complicated than what we’ve already heard ? And wouldn’t those tax advisers have asked for more detail before giving their advice if that was the case .If she's done for its a win for the UK. She is ghastly in so many ways. The thought of her as Prine Minister is just hideous.
I tend to think Rayner genuinely didn’t try and rip off the HMRC because that would have been just so short sighted and risky given what happened last year .
Surely no one would be this stupid . It could be that she simply can’t prove that it was a genuine error and will end up going because of that .
This would be a massive loss to Labour because she was seen as the natural successor to Starmer , someone with a back story that meant she was seen as one of us not one of them .
Or just shits and giggles?
Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Nigel Farage wants to create a US-style Cabinet of “all the talents”, with outsiders running government departments, if he wins the next general election. As many of half of the Cabinet ministers in a Reform UK government could be members of the House of Lords rather than elected MPs, as is traditional.He’s getting delusions of grandeur .
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/04/nigel-farage-reform-uk-zia-yusuf-government-conference/

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Read that Guardian report from Rayner’s constituency. They couldn’t find one single supportive voiceThe problem is the size of the numbers, £800k for a house, £40k not paid in tax. People from those sort of backgrounds are hearing that and thinking my take home pay for 2 years is £40k, my house is worth a fraction of that. And then the PM / Big Ange is going but I am just a humble working class lass, how am I supposed to know about tax and stuff.
She’s finished
Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Nah. He's a Grade A shit.Come on you PBTories, throw your lot in with Nigel. You know you want to.Not as much as Reform will...Will Andy Burnham fancy winning the forthcoming Ashton by-election?Tomorrow's Guardian front pageParked - alongside Rayner's ambitions
'The conveyancing firm that Angela Rayner used to complete her purchase of an £800,000 flat on the south coast has said it did not offer her tax advice and completed her stamp duty return based only on information she provided'
I will leave that there
And the Tories are much more palatable without Nadine.
Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
The widely reported problem was he couldn't delegate or make a decision in a timely manner without asking for further information. As CoE, you have 2 big days a year, you are spending pretty much all your time thinking about what to do with those two opportunities. As PM, every day is a different problem and a lot of it has to be resolved ASAP. There was the famous photo of all the piled up paper in his office when he got kicked out, it was all the stuff that hadn't been signed up and was just building and building and building, as every day the civil servant would present more, he would say he didn't more time to think about it or needed more information, and the backlog just built, and then he was shortly drowning in it.Brown baffled me. I think he is an intelligent chap. I think he allowed himself to believe his own legend and basically rode a wave of prosperity during the good times. But surely after trying for so long to get to the top he ought to have had some idea of what he wanted to do? And yet apparently not.Its an absolutely insanely tough job, especially for the foreseeable future, as Rishi found out and Starmer is finding out. Brown couldn't do it, May couldn't do it, Boris and Truss were a shit show. Blair and Cameron are the only two that looked like they could at least keep the ship heading in the direction they had plotted.She’s not wooden and would show a lot more vision for the country . She’s relatable and if you get the right people around you it’s not such a tough gig .Genuine question. Why? What do you think would have made her a good PM? What evidence is there for this?I would have loved to have seen her as PM but I accept she’s a bit of a Marmite character .Is this trust a lot more complicated than what we’ve already heard ? And wouldn’t those tax advisers have asked for more detail before giving their advice if that was the case .If she's done for its a win for the UK. She is ghastly in so many ways. The thought of her as Prine Minister is just hideous.
I tend to think Rayner genuinely didn’t try and rip off the HMRC because that would have been just so short sighted and risky given what happened last year .
Surely no one would be this stupid . It could be that she simply can’t prove that it was a genuine error and will end up going because of that .
This would be a massive loss to Labour because she was seen as the natural successor to Starmer , someone with a back story that meant she was seen as one of us not one of them .
Or just shits and giggles?
I am guessing because it was outside of what he had specialised in for 10 years, all of a sudden all this new stuff was coming at it and his nature was well I should spend ages studying this more.
The opposite was reported about Cameron, for all the chillaxing claims, he apparently was on top of his red box every single day, read the info, considered it and signed it off promptly.
Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
I just found my favourite clip of it on YouTube - Ferguson tells Bea Smith she has a visitor, Smith replies “ hope he’s big, butch and handsome” Ferguson says “2 out of the 3”… and it’s Judy!!Prisoner Cell Block H is on 5Select at the moment… I looked it up on wiki… 8 Series, 692 episodes!!I watched all 692 episodes during the covid lockdowns. Embarrassing I know.
I used to watch it on itv late Thursday nights in the early 90s after a night out in Romford

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
The Telegraph’s own article has a local estate agent valuing the property at £620k. This article is desperate stuff.Specialist adaptations are likely to reduce the value to a third partyLet's repeat my post from earlier💸 Angela Rayner’s family home was valued at almost twice the amount of other recently sold properties on her street when she sold a stake to her disabled son’s trust so she could buy a holiday homeSuggesting that she scammed her son's trust fund?
Read more 👇
https://x.com/telegraph/status/1963642234475065671?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
If a surveyor used the comparators in that article to calculator fair price they wouldn't have a leg to stand on were they to be sued... A 3 bed semi definitely isn't a reasonable comparison to a 4 bed detached especially 1 adapted at vast expense to meet someone's particular needs.
What you are then left with is the difficult question of how do you value a property especially adapted for the needs of someone who needs a property to be adapted. Which if £80,000 of adaptions would be required to your typical £550,000 home may make a £630,000 valuation reasonable under the circumstances...
I wouldn’t be surprised if they have just added £80k to the value on the grounds that’s what they spent (and perhaps used a value from the time of the divorce)

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Probably not on most people's radar with everything else going on but the delay of the Budget to November 26th has left horse racing's "strike" next Wednesday (the spectacle of horse race trainers and owners as well on London Underground tube drivers both on picket lines in Westminster is more than a little incongruous to this observer) looking ridiculous.
The idea had been to promote racing's argument against the proposed harmonisation of betting duty and remote gaming duty in an early October bUdget but by the time the Budget actually happens, it will have been forgotten by most.
I think racing should abandon next Wednesday's proposed "strike" in favour of a date closer to the Budget to gain greater political impact.
The idea had been to promote racing's argument against the proposed harmonisation of betting duty and remote gaming duty in an early October bUdget but by the time the Budget actually happens, it will have been forgotten by most.
I think racing should abandon next Wednesday's proposed "strike" in favour of a date closer to the Budget to gain greater political impact.
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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
If you have not listened to the 3 series of the 13 Minutes to the Moon podcast on BBC Sounds you should. About the Moon landings, Apollo 13 and the Challenger Shuttle. Utterly gripping.A stunning moon hanging low in a clear sky this evening.I think it's wonderful. A sign of what humanity can achieve if we put our minds to it.
Sad to know that there is human detritus on the surface.