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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Will our governments finally grasp that Trump (and any likely GOP successor) is no longer an ally in any real sense to Europe ?
We are still grossly underestimating the implications of that.
And one possible future PM is an abject toady towards Trump.
Bild and Axios: Trump attacked Europe during today's call. The conversation was heated. Trump shifted responsibility for putting pressure on Putin to Europe. Europeans no longer expect Trump to impose sanctions against Russia.
Trump accused Europeans of buying Russian oil and financing its war machine. Ursula von der Leyen tried to object, saying that Europe had significantly reduced purchases after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Trump was reminded that only Hungary and Slovakia directly import Russian oil. Witkoff turned the tables and accused Europe of buying Russian oil from India.
When the conversation turned to sanctions, Europe attempted to agree on a joint approach with the American president. The Europeans immediately offered to send their representatives to Washington to set up a working group on sanctions within 48 hours. It is not known whether Trump agreed.
Trump told the Europeans that they should put pressure on China to give up Russian oil. Trump himself did not introduce secondary duties on China for purchasing oil from Russia, he only introduced them on India.
Trump emphasized that Europe should put more pressure on Russia.
After the conversation, Europeans no longer expect Trump to impose sanctions against Russia.
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1963705264936460405
We are still grossly underestimating the implications of that.
And one possible future PM is an abject toady towards Trump.
Bild and Axios: Trump attacked Europe during today's call. The conversation was heated. Trump shifted responsibility for putting pressure on Putin to Europe. Europeans no longer expect Trump to impose sanctions against Russia.
Trump accused Europeans of buying Russian oil and financing its war machine. Ursula von der Leyen tried to object, saying that Europe had significantly reduced purchases after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Trump was reminded that only Hungary and Slovakia directly import Russian oil. Witkoff turned the tables and accused Europe of buying Russian oil from India.
When the conversation turned to sanctions, Europe attempted to agree on a joint approach with the American president. The Europeans immediately offered to send their representatives to Washington to set up a working group on sanctions within 48 hours. It is not known whether Trump agreed.
Trump told the Europeans that they should put pressure on China to give up Russian oil. Trump himself did not introduce secondary duties on China for purchasing oil from Russia, he only introduced them on India.
Trump emphasized that Europe should put more pressure on Russia.
After the conversation, Europeans no longer expect Trump to impose sanctions against Russia.
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1963705264936460405

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
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He is a seriously evil man in my estimation, who never really paid for the immense damage done by his mendacity.
He's divorced from Macpherson. Probably too busy anti-vaxx grifting in the US; I doubt being Health Secretary pays as much.Fuck, Andrew Wakefield will be Reform's Health Secretary.Isn't he too busy dating super models these days?
He is a seriously evil man in my estimation, who never really paid for the immense damage done by his mendacity.

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Labour are now doing to their core WWC support in England and Wales what they did to that same electorate in Scotland: simultaneously taking it for granted AND expressing contempt and disgust if these smelly racist voters show disloyalty and go for Reform
It’s a recipe for electoral wipe-out, as happened to SLAB
It’s a recipe for electoral wipe-out, as happened to SLAB

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Brutal vox pop from Rayner’s constituency
Voters not happy with Ange
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/04/its-a-disgrace-rayners-constituents-call-for-her-resignation-after-stamp-duty-row
Voters not happy with Ange
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/04/its-a-disgrace-rayners-constituents-call-for-her-resignation-after-stamp-duty-row

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Having your conveyancers do a stamp duty calc is in no way shape or form 'taking legal advice' on the matter.Is the first tweet turns out to be correct she will be f##led over lying / cover up / attempted deflection. So often it is that rather than the initial story that does for you.No, point 3 of the first tweet says the firm calculated stamp duty using the HMRC calculator. That presumably is what Rayner means. The fact they'd have come up with a different figure if they had taken the trust into account does not alter the fact they did calculate stamp duty.
It quites different to go around saying I did everything proppa that my lawyers told me to do and they were wrong compared to i did everything proppa that my lawyers told me to do when the lawyers we said no such thing nor were we asked.

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
On Euston station, if anyone has half an hour for a look at something interesting, I recommend the caryatids in the North and South porches at the 1819 Greek Revival St Pancras New Church which is just across the road.Not a church, but there's a whole street of the buggers in Cheltenham:
It's the only one known to me with these - Greek style figures used as columns - in the country, and is just across the road.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/tE3oUfc1Ts67wpgp9
IanVisits article about it, with a piccie of the interior, which was built to seat 2500.
Open 11-2 6 days a week, or (I assume) service times on Sundays. Art gallery in the crypt.
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/inside-the-200-year-old-st-pancras-new-church-56018/

Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Yes. They won't be regarded highly hy posterity for.this, I expect. The era of complacent dogma, and missed opportunities.They stopped spending money at the very moment they could have invested billions at very low interest rates... As I said yesterday it's that lack of investment which has come back to bite them continually since 2016...Sadly they never actually did austerity. They just called it that. Look at what Canada did in an actual austerity.You need to invent a time machine, go back to 2010 and tell Cameron that if you really want to have an EU Referendum, don't do austerity first.PBTories don’t want to throw their lot in with Nigel, they want their Tory party back. Get Cameron back in, get back to the centre and pray.Come on you PBTories, throw your lot in with Nigel. You know you want to.Not as much as Reform will...Will Andy Burnham fancy winning the forthcoming Ashton by-election?Tomorrow's Guardian front pageParked - alongside Rayner's ambitions
'The conveyancing firm that Angela Rayner used to complete her purchase of an £800,000 flat on the south coast has said it did not offer her tax advice and completed her stamp duty return based only on information she provided'
I will leave that there
Now we await Farage.
Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Am flabbergasted to read that Nadine is the third ex-Cabinet Minister to defect to Reform.
And people still say this Cabinet is lightweight.
And people still say this Cabinet is lightweight.
Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
Sadly there's fairly recent evidence that that is no barrier.Rayner is very good as an attack dog and hyping up the base, but like Two Jags, there is absolutely no evidence she has the skills to do the top job.Genuine question. Why? What do you think would have made her a good PM? What evidence is there for this?I would have loved to have seen her as PM but I accept she’s a bit of a Marmite character .Is this trust a lot more complicated than what we’ve already heard ? And wouldn’t those tax advisers have asked for more detail before giving their advice if that was the case .If she's done for its a win for the UK. She is ghastly in so many ways. The thought of her as Prine Minister is just hideous.
I tend to think Rayner genuinely didn’t try and rip off the HMRC because that would have been just so short sighted and risky given what happened last year .
Surely no one would be this stupid . It could be that she simply can’t prove that it was a genuine error and will end up going because of that .
This would be a massive loss to Labour because she was seen as the natural successor to Starmer , someone with a back story that meant she was seen as one of us not one of them .
Or just shits and giggles?

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Re: Angela’s ambitions in ashes? – politicalbetting.com
I think an issue was a great deal of New Labour was his invention and so a lot of the policy had been done by the time he got to Downing Street.Brown baffled me. I think he is an intelligent chap. I think he allowed himself to believe his own legend and basically rode a wave of prosperity during the good times. But surely after trying for so long to get to the top he ought to have had some idea of what he wanted to do? And yet apparently not.Its an absolutely insanely tough job, especially for the foreseeable future, as Rishi found out and Starmer is finding out. Brown couldn't do it, May couldn't do it, Boris and Truss were a shit show. Blair and Cameron are the only two that looked like they could at least keep the ship heading in the direction they had plotted.She’s not wooden and would show a lot more vision for the country . She’s relatable and if you get the right people around you it’s not such a tough gig .Genuine question. Why? What do you think would have made her a good PM? What evidence is there for this?I would have loved to have seen her as PM but I accept she’s a bit of a Marmite character .Is this trust a lot more complicated than what we’ve already heard ? And wouldn’t those tax advisers have asked for more detail before giving their advice if that was the case .If she's done for its a win for the UK. She is ghastly in so many ways. The thought of her as Prine Minister is just hideous.
I tend to think Rayner genuinely didn’t try and rip off the HMRC because that would have been just so short sighted and risky given what happened last year .
Surely no one would be this stupid . It could be that she simply can’t prove that it was a genuine error and will end up going because of that .
This would be a massive loss to Labour because she was seen as the natural successor to Starmer , someone with a back story that meant she was seen as one of us not one of them .
Or just shits and giggles?