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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
@johnharris1969.bsky.social
Starmer's prob is that this sounds like a holding speech in the midst of a huge realignment (or, more accurately,a nutter President causing chaos). Fair dos. But ppl will also hear very Starmer-esque denial of the need for agility & imagination. The moment demands v. rare skills (that he hasn't got)
@jwsidders.bsky.social
Fair summation. Everything Starmer said was right. The way he said it was totally wrong. Very, very Starmer!
Starmer's prob is that this sounds like a holding speech in the midst of a huge realignment (or, more accurately,a nutter President causing chaos). Fair dos. But ppl will also hear very Starmer-esque denial of the need for agility & imagination. The moment demands v. rare skills (that he hasn't got)
@jwsidders.bsky.social
Fair summation. Everything Starmer said was right. The way he said it was totally wrong. Very, very Starmer!
Scott_xP
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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
'The US is acting with impunity and believes its power matters more than international law, the head of the UN has told the BBC.Stephen Miller said exactly the same last week.
Nigelb
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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
I think there is an opportunity here for Badenoch. This fannying about by Starmer won't be tolerated for much longer and I think he's left a significant gap for her between his inaction and Davey's pontifications. Something that is both pragmatic and patriotic, about standing up to bullies.I think Davey is already there......
Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
I think there is an opportunity here for Badenoch. This fannying about by Starmer won't be tolerated for much longer and I think he's left a significant gap for her between his inaction and Davey's pontifications. Something that is both pragmatic and patriotic, about standing up to bullies.
Eabhal
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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
Starmer is in a difficult position but this rather tedious, technocratic triangulation isn’t the message for the moment. He’d have been better issuing a statement if this was all he was going to say.
Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
What I hope Starmer is doing is what the Chamberlain supporters say Chamberlain was doing: playing for time and preparing for the inevitable with that time.When Chamberlain was waving pieces of paper, his government had, for years, been re-arming. At a rate that they were finding it difficult to spend more money. Because you can't just order weapons on that scale. You have to build the factories to make the machines to build weapons, first.
But I fear he's only doing one half of that.
There's absolutely no sign of that kind of thinking here.
Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
Have the Tories not cleansed themselves of the mini budget? A decent number of it's supporters have crossed over to the dark side and of course Nigel Farage claimed the Truss budget was "the most Conservative budget since 1986".Farage loves all manner of stranger things.
Tories as expressed by TSE hated it, Farage loved it!
It’s a real shame that Nigel Farage is too unwell to do interviews the morning after Donald Trump threatens us with sanctions.
Here he is with “the bravest man he ever met”. He campaigned to make Trump President, and has spent the last year enjoying all the chaos he has caused.
https://x.com/EdwardJDavey/status/2012839122172334374
Nigelb
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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
Starmer is in a difficult position but this rather tedious, technocratic triangulation isn’t the message for the moment. He’d have been better issuing a statement if this was all he was going to say.Claiming that Starmer "a close relationship with the US delivers concrete outcomes for the UK" is a crock of shit in this context, when Trump is about to impose an additional 10% tariff on us over Greenland.
Nigelb
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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
Good morningThat's pretty pitiful stuff, Big_G.
I do not envy Starmer and did not like his fawning over Trump but he has little choice and I agree with his approach
Anyone thinking Ed Davey 's antagonism to Trump would be helpful is just wanting to kick Trump [ as we all do] but would only have one result in making Trump more extreme
I fear that Trump is not going to back down and his letter to Norway is alarming
He can take devastating action against NATO, Europe and others including hugh tariffs, end US NATO membership, and withdraw support for Ukraine and withdraw his military from Europe
Furthermore, has anyone considered that even if Trump goes others in the US will continue their demand to control Greenland
The fact is Trump has all the cards and Europe is left powerless in a frightening change in security
I wish Starmer well, but I really doubt that he, or indeed anyone, will change Trumps ambition to own Greenland
And all the existing evidence is that pandering to Trump is completely futile, while standing up to him works... sometimes.
Nigelb
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Re: I agree with Robert Jenrick (and Kemi Badenoch should take his advice) – politicalbetting.com
The 15th overseas territory. Limited self government only, in order to avoid the systematic corruption that has become prevalent in recent years.Its time that the USA became the 93rd county.“250 years is long enough to run an experiment and I think we can all agree it has failed. Now, about those back taxes….”King Charles will do what the Government tells him to do. As the UK constitution requires. The suggestion that grabbing power that isn't his, is an appropriate response to Trump's behaviour, is certainly curious.Just listening to the news......Starmer isn't the problem. Streeting or Our Ange would behave no differently. The entire British establishment, with few laudable exceptions like Corbyn and Galloway, can conceive of no other mode of operation than supplicant grovelling before the US.
Well this is embarrassing! We need to think about a new Labour leader and Prime Minister. He's a decent man but we need an altogether different approach. We need someone who is saying the things Ed Davey is saying. We're being blown around like a kite in a hurricane. The only Labour figure who has the bottle and the brain is Emily Thornberry. Starmer can be reassigned the job of sorting out the detail of the UK rejoining the EU which must happen as soon as possible and without caveats
(Chris Packham. Very good on Radio 4. Definitely one of the good guys)
You watch, King Prince Charles will to go the US for the 250th anniversary, say nothing about Greenland or Canada (of which state he is putatively head) and tongue DJT's hole like the craven weakling he is.
Cicero
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