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Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
Who says he won't invade?He's saying he can destroy any country economically if they don't do what we wants. A protection racket. And he's just said "protection" from his military.He said he will not invade so the only option is for him to apply destructive tariffs
Its like that Indycar commentary. "Wow wow wow! Five Wide!!!" Absolute incredulity.
I have no idea how this is resolved
Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
I'm gonna need a highlights reel, I'm struggling to sift the never seen before levels of outrageous from the usual drivel.
Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
There is. Wilful ignorance. It would be terrible for the long term but fine for nowThere is no longer an easy solution.Look, we needed this speech. Listen to Carney yesterday, listen to this, and take the sign down from our window.The problem is that all of these are difficult decisions that require sacrifices and we are addicted to easy solutions.
It's *OVER*
Park the Starmer/HYUFD normalcy bias nonsense. You can't just go on assuming that the old world is the current world. It is not.
Cancel all US military procurement contracts. Invite US armed forces to go home. Cut off our supposed cooperation on intel and other matters. Better that we do it now under our own terms, or we face down what he chooses to do to us.
Sorry, I know I have banged this drum on and on. But fucking listen to him. And tell me this is fine.
Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
Thing is we now know he didn’t take Venezuela. He took Maduro and put his deputy in his place. More like US Cold War shenanigans in its Latam backyard.1. Earlier in the speech Trump stated that he could take Greenland in minutes as he took VenezuelaLook, we needed this speech. Listen to Carney yesterday, listen to this, and take the sign down from our window.Trump has just ruled out invasion of Greenland, he wants to buy it, that is a decision for Denmark and Greenland to see if he offers a high enough price they would expect.
It's *OVER*
Park the Starmer/HYUFD normalcy bias nonsense. You can't just go on assuming that the old world is the current world. It is not.
Cancel all US military procurement contracts. Invite US armed forces to go home. Cut off our supposed cooperation on intel and other matters. Better that we do it now under our own terms, or we face down what he chooses to do to us.
Sorry, I know I have banged this drum on and on. But fucking listen to him. And tell me this is fine.
Beyond that, Starmer has actually been sensible in getting lower tariffs on UK exports to the US than most other nations have had, even if Sir Keir mucked up on the Chagos Islands
2. If you think his word has merit then you're demented, especially when he contradicts himself repeatedly in the same spoeech
3. We're being threatened with more tariffs
4. Chagos? Are you Andrew Rosindell?
You do know that giving succour to America will be reduced onto the same level as going on Press TV and RT?
MelonB
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Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
Look, we needed this speech. Listen to Carney yesterday, listen to this, and take the sign down from our window.So we have a choice of paths. We can either go the Carney route and work with other medium sized powers on things we have in common or we can continue our sycophancy in the hope of frankly embarrassing crumbs from Trump's table, those crumbs being removed capriciously if we are deemed to step out of line.
It's *OVER*
Park the Starmer/HYUFD normalcy bias nonsense. You can't just go on assuming that the old world is the current world. It is not.
Cancel all US military procurement contracts. Invite US armed forces to go home. Cut off our supposed cooperation on intel and other matters. Better that we do it now under our own terms, or we face down what he chooses to do to us.
Sorry, I know I have banged this drum on and on. But fucking listen to him. And tell me this is fine.
I mean, this isn't even a choice is it?
DavidL
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Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
The only thing in Leon's favour at this point is that he's not the MOST wrongheaded person on the planet.Are you saying HYUFD is worse?
Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
The only thing in Leon's favour at this point is that he's not the MOST wrongheaded person on the planet.
Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
@JeremyCliffeMy interpretation is leaders from the free world should be shitting themselves. If they are not, they certainly should.
Some Europeans will be reassured by this, and wind down the (cautious) assertiveness of recent days.
But it shows that displays of European resolve move Trump in ways that the misguided sycophancy of previous 12 months never did. It's a reason to press forward, not pull back.
https://x.com/JeremyCliffe/status/2013982181434028368?s=20
The man is clearly insane.
He has absolutely no grasp of economics or geopolitics.
Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
Sean was watching a different speechTrump is now confusing Greenland and Iceland: "They're not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell you. Our stock market took the first dip yesterday because of Iceland. So Iceland has already cost us a lot of money."Yet I was assured upthread that he did not come across as demented in this speech.
@atrupar.com
The choice is impeachment and removal or calamity for the United States. I don't see how anybody watching Trump's speech in Davos can draw any other conclusion. He's a senile madman.
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcwuummsik2d
Scott_xP
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Re: We need to go back to having a Prime Minister born in Canada – politicalbetting.com
My son's girlfriend (Canadian) says that Poilievre has his lowest ratings ever following the speech and that Canadians are genuinely excited to be taking on the US who have betrayed them.Carney is impressive, probably now overtaken Macron as the main leader of liberal, internationalist free traders in the western world, standing up to Putin and Trump.My daughter in law is very happy with the opening of China for tourism to BC
I am not sure Canadian factory workers will be too happy with Carney's agreement to let lots more Chinese cars flood the Canadian market though, even with a promised reduction in Chinese tariffs on Canadian canola seed. Those workers would probably prefer the 30% tariffs Trump has imposed on Chinese imports.
Leader of the Canadian Opposition and Conservative Party of Canada Poilievre certainly isn't happy with the Liberal PM
https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/2012207932104925471?s=20
https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/2012236406433763620?s=20
As I have said before the real losers of the new deals with China will be the US whose trade with Canada is collapsing as they disengage from one of the closest economic arrangements between sovereign nations on the planet. The China agreement will cost thousands of Americans their car manufacturing jobs. Its the price of having elected Trump. Again.
DavidL
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