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Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
The Americans have been waiting for the carrier group to get into position, it’s taken a week or so.There’s a *LOT* of Western military hardware in the Middle East right now, all looking at Iran.It's only a fortnight late to do any actual good.
https://x.com/schizointel/status/2014891814281421140
Trump seems to be about to achieve the worst of all worlds. He was elected on the premise of non-interference. Which is not necessarily a stupid or unreasonable idea given how inept most US military interference has been in the last sixty years. But does mean scum like Khamanei will quite literally get away with murder.
But now, having decided that doesn't suit him, he will try and interfere. And being Trump, and therefore dim, and American, and therefore bombastic and trigger happy, he will do so only after the protestors have been massacred and the regime is secure anyway, leaving his strikes the emptiest of gesture politics while destabilising the Middle East further.
Sandpit
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Re: Today’s high noon for Andy Burnham (well 5pm) – politicalbetting.com
Were you assuming he would only put it in for a few dollars more?In all seriousness, was that always there? Did I really miss the complete last paragraph? (Past bottom of screen, I guess.)Disappointed there is no The Good, The Bad and The Ugly referenceFinal paragraph.Or is that being saved for the actual by election?
(I'm not sure who would fill which role!)
We might see the the good, the bad, and the ugly if Sir Keir Starmer blocks Burnham from standing, will Sir Keir be unforgiven?
Anyway, I retract my disappointment!
ydoethur
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Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
Sultana isn't impressed with Burnham...
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/2015100780429054292?s=20
Every take is like a 16 year old raging at the world.
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/2015100780429054292?s=20
Every take is like a 16 year old raging at the world.
Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
Really controversial opinion, Tim Walz is trying to stoke a civil war to detract from the fraud story.
Sandpit
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Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
Yes that’s exactly why there’s the confrontations in Minnesota.I’m not quite sure the point you’re making here. Surely you don’t think that’s why ICE is concentrating on Minnesota?Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
In every other state, illegals are handed off to ICE at the prison for deportation. In Tim Walz’s state, they are released from the prison into the community, because sanctuary and loveliness, so the Feds have to send in the heavies to find the criminal aliens.
Sandpit
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Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
Evening all 
Nothing to do with Burnham who is of peripheral interest though as I've said it wouldn't surprise me if it goes well for him to see Sadiq Khan reconsider his decision to run in the 2028 London Mayoral election.
Up in East Ham High Street and I love the diversity - at one end of the street, the evangelical Christians were in good voice, half way up the street, the local mosque was giving away copies of the Qu'ran.
At the other end of the street, up by the station, three young well-spoken types were extoling the virtues of the Revolutionary Communist Party. In the interest of wealth re-distribution and pluralism, I purchased a copy of The Communist which is an updated version of the Morning Star (minus the racing selections - the Morning Star had an excellent racing tipster in its heyday). The ten point plan of the RCP is worth further discussion on here - perhaps a thread on its own if I can be bothered.
It's fair to say nationalisation without compensation and extorting assets from billionaires are doing a lot of the heavy lifting in the RCP plans. It's also fair to day the RCP aren't big fans of Starmer (which should win them some friends on here).
I was going to suggest to the RCP they go down the road and engage with the evangelicals and the muslims on the issue of the existence of God...
Nothing to do with Burnham who is of peripheral interest though as I've said it wouldn't surprise me if it goes well for him to see Sadiq Khan reconsider his decision to run in the 2028 London Mayoral election.
Up in East Ham High Street and I love the diversity - at one end of the street, the evangelical Christians were in good voice, half way up the street, the local mosque was giving away copies of the Qu'ran.
At the other end of the street, up by the station, three young well-spoken types were extoling the virtues of the Revolutionary Communist Party. In the interest of wealth re-distribution and pluralism, I purchased a copy of The Communist which is an updated version of the Morning Star (minus the racing selections - the Morning Star had an excellent racing tipster in its heyday). The ten point plan of the RCP is worth further discussion on here - perhaps a thread on its own if I can be bothered.
It's fair to say nationalisation without compensation and extorting assets from billionaires are doing a lot of the heavy lifting in the RCP plans. It's also fair to day the RCP aren't big fans of Starmer (which should win them some friends on here).
I was going to suggest to the RCP they go down the road and engage with the evangelicals and the muslims on the issue of the existence of God...
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Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
Burnham gets elected.
Lucy Powell stands and wins, becoming Mayor.
Burnham stands and becomes Deputy Leader of Labour by conference. Uses his conference speech to call for unity in the party.
(OK, I'm taking the piss with that last bit.)
Lucy Powell stands and wins, becoming Mayor.
Burnham stands and becomes Deputy Leader of Labour by conference. Uses his conference speech to call for unity in the party.
(OK, I'm taking the piss with that last bit.)
Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
Sienna RodgersThere’s such a thing as an “All-BAME shortlist”?
@siennamarla
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
I recall that Blair wrote something in the sexism act to exclude political parties and allow them to be sexist, but didn’t realise that had now expanded to racism as well.
Are they seriously proposing discriminating against a candidate because of the colour of his skin?
Sandpit
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Re: Burnham confirms he wants to stand in the by-eleciton – politicalbetting.com
And then what? Sit on the backbenches as an independent?If Labour were to do that, Burnham would be well advised to run as an Indpendent. And I think he'd find it easier to win too.Sienna RodgersNo Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
@siennamarla
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”


