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The Israel Defense Forces said its troops had “perceived a vehicle accelerating toward them” and that one of the soldiers had “responded with single shots toward the vehicle”.

Basically the IDF can just kill anyone they like and whenever they like and make up a pile of bullshit to justify it . The car was told to slow down and did and they decided they wanted their kill bonus .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/10/palestinian-baby-shot-dead-israeli-troops-occupied-west-bank-new-footage

The most moral army in the world according to Bibi.

It's also a conscript army. See Russia.

Everyone of them should be tracked down, rounded up and shot or imprisoned

Thats what they did to Nazi Holocaust perpetrators, this is Genocide pure and simple.

Almost no Nazis were shot over the Holocaust. A few were hanged, but barely 500 all told. Most lived out their lives in Germany or South America, many of them quite openly under their own names.

And people like Albert Speer got to appear on the world at war. How he evaded the death penalty when he’d been at the head of Organisation Todt using slave labour, being worked to death, I have no idea.

Someone suggested that after the war the western allies had had enough bloodshed.

It wasn't that, as his deputy was hanged. It was because he persuaded the tribunal (a) he hadn't known the full extent of what was happening and (b) he was truly sorry about what had happened.

The second may or may not have been true but the first was clearly a load of bollocks. Even Gitta Sereny (who was singularly credulous in her interviews with him) didn't swallow that.

Airey Neave thought it was probably as much as anything else because of the air of solid middle-class respectability he gave off which endeared him to the Western judges.

My Google isn't working properly, can somebody post me some links to the riots this murder in Northern Ireland sparked?

This was from court last week.

A YouTuber who murdered his pregnant girlfriend and falsely claimed he was live-streaming a video game as an alibi has been jailed for life with a minimum of 31 years.

Stephen McCullagh, 36, was convicted by a jury at Belfast Crown Court in March of killing Natalie McNally, 32, who was 15 weeks pregnant with their child.

During the attack, at her home in Lurgan on 18 December 2022, she suffered stab wounds, strangulation and blows to the hand.

McCullagh concocted an alibi that he had been live-streaming himself playing computer games on his channel when Ms McNally was murdered.

https://news.sky.com/story/youtuber-jailed-for-murdering-pregnant-girlfriend-13544222

As a so called leftie Liberal he should have got life without parole ! Indeed this is the irritation I have when people pigeonhole those more on the left as soft on crime .

I’m anti the death penalty but think sentences are too soft for murders .

You’d have to leave the ECHR for life without parole to be possible

How do we do whole life orders, such as that given to Couzens, then? Or is there some subtle distinction?

Indeed and we have had them since 1983

They’re growing in frequency too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole_life_orders

A couple of Numerous guys on that list are good adverts for whole life orders, having murdered people not long after being released from prison for an earlier murder.

My Google isn't working properly, can somebody post me some links to the riots this murder in Northern Ireland sparked?

This was from court last week.

A YouTuber who murdered his pregnant girlfriend and falsely claimed he was live-streaming a video game as an alibi has been jailed for life with a minimum of 31 years.

Stephen McCullagh, 36, was convicted by a jury at Belfast Crown Court in March of killing Natalie McNally, 32, who was 15 weeks pregnant with their child.

During the attack, at her home in Lurgan on 18 December 2022, she suffered stab wounds, strangulation and blows to the hand.

McCullagh concocted an alibi that he had been live-streaming himself playing computer games on his channel when Ms McNally was murdered.

https://news.sky.com/story/youtuber-jailed-for-murdering-pregnant-girlfriend-13544222

As a so called leftie Liberal he should have got life without parole ! Indeed this is the irritation I have when people pigeonhole those more on the left as soft on crime .

I’m anti the death penalty but think sentences are too soft for murders .

You’d have to leave the ECHR for life without parole to be possible

How do we do whole life orders, such as that given to Couzens, then? Or is there some subtle distinction?

The Home Secretary has discretion to release such prisoners on compassionate grounds in exceptional circumstances. That seems to be enough for the European Court.

My Google isn't working properly, can somebody post me some links to the riots this murder in Northern Ireland sparked?

This was from court last week.

A YouTuber who murdered his pregnant girlfriend and falsely claimed he was live-streaming a video game as an alibi has been jailed for life with a minimum of 31 years.

Stephen McCullagh, 36, was convicted by a jury at Belfast Crown Court in March of killing Natalie McNally, 32, who was 15 weeks pregnant with their child.

During the attack, at her home in Lurgan on 18 December 2022, she suffered stab wounds, strangulation and blows to the hand.

McCullagh concocted an alibi that he had been live-streaming himself playing computer games on his channel when Ms McNally was murdered.

https://news.sky.com/story/youtuber-jailed-for-murdering-pregnant-girlfriend-13544222

As a so called leftie Liberal he should have got life without parole ! Indeed this is the irritation I have when people pigeonhole those more on the left as soft on crime .

I’m anti the death penalty but think sentences are too soft for murders .

You’d have to leave the ECHR for life without parole to be possible

ICYMI the Speaker has gone ballistic this afternoon:-

There are strong rumours that the Government are going to produce their defence investment plan on Friday. That would be an utter disgrace and an utter kick in the face to Members of this House. I say to Downing Street that, under the ministerial code, it is the Government’s responsibility to ensure that major announcements are made here. This may be speculation, and I am sure it will be corrected, but I will be appalled if it is done on a Friday, given that Members have been waiting so long.

This affects all parties who have a great interest in the defence investment plan, including Members on the Government Benches. We all have jobs, and we all have people who serve in the armed forces. We must end the speculation and treat this House with the respect that elected Members deserve. Once again, it seems to me that we are becoming second-class citizens under this Government. I do not want that to be the case, and I hope that I am going to be proved wrong.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2026-06-10/debates/DA392024-5FAF-486E-9EC1-508DB9AF8B57/DefenceInvestmentPlan

Hasn't this Government got form for this? If I remember correctly the EHRC Final Guidance was released on a Friday. Happy to be corrected if wrong.

This isn't so much disrespect, as sheer incompetence.
They're simply unable to work out WTF they're doing on defence funding.

Our biggest threat is Russia. And Russia is being denuded and demoralised by its failure to win its war of choice and aggression against Ukraine. So imo that should be the short term focus - helping Ukraine to the max both unilaterally and in tandem with other European countries. That ticks all the boxes.

Longer term there's great uncertainty over America's direction which is perhaps a justifiable reason for some uncertainty about ours. You wouldn't want to commit to big expensive decisions based on deeply questionable assumptions. Not that this precludes incompetence, but it might be a factor.

Sounds right. If we don't know how to spend our defence budget sensibly give at least some of the money to Ukraine because they need it and it will be used to address a here-and-now threat. Then we can learn from them what effective defence looks like.

That would be fine, except we aren't spending enough even to maintain the assets we already have. So, rather than treading water while we work out what to do, we are sinking.

Secondly, why is it that every other member of NATO is doing more than Britain to rearm? Why are we uniquely in a state of confusion about future warfare?

I think the answer is simply that the Cabinet cannot agree how the required extra spending is to be funded.

The Israel Defense Forces said its troops had “perceived a vehicle accelerating toward them” and that one of the soldiers had “responded with single shots toward the vehicle”.

Basically the IDF can just kill anyone they like and whenever they like and make up a pile of bullshit to justify it . The car was told to slow down and did and they decided they wanted their kill bonus .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/10/palestinian-baby-shot-dead-israeli-troops-occupied-west-bank-new-footage

The most moral army in the world according to Bibi.

It's also a conscript army. See Russia.

Everyone of them should be tracked down, rounded up and shot or imprisoned

Thats what they did to Nazi Holocaust perpetrators, this is Genocide pure and simple.

Almost no Nazis were shot over the Holocaust. A few were hanged, but barely 500 all told. Most lived out their lives in Germany or South America, many of them quite openly under their own names.

And people like Albert Speer got to appear on the world at war. How he evaded the death penalty when he’d been at the head of Organisation Todt using slave labour, being worked to death, I have no idea.

Someone suggested that after the war the western allies had had enough bloodshed.

The Israel Defense Forces said its troops had “perceived a vehicle accelerating toward them” and that one of the soldiers had “responded with single shots toward the vehicle”.

Basically the IDF can just kill anyone they like and whenever they like and make up a pile of bullshit to justify it . The car was told to slow down and did and they decided they wanted their kill bonus .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/10/palestinian-baby-shot-dead-israeli-troops-occupied-west-bank-new-footage

The most moral army in the world according to Bibi.

It's also a conscript army. See Russia.

Everyone of them should be tracked down, rounded up and shot or imprisoned

Thats what they did to Nazi Holocaust perpetrators, this is Genocide pure and simple.

Almost no Nazis were shot over the Holocaust. A few were hanged, but barely 500 all told. Most lived out their lives in Germany or South America, many of them quite openly under their own names.

And people like Albert Speer got to appear on the world at war. How he evaded the death penalty when he’d been at the head of Organisation Todt using slave labour, being worked to death, I have no idea.

Someone suggested that after the war the western allies had had enough bloodshed.

It wasn't that, as his deputy was hanged. It was because he persuaded the tribunal (a) he hadn't known the full extent of what was happening and (b) he was truly sorry about what had happened.

The second may or may not have been true but the first was clearly a load of bollocks. Even Gitta Sereny (who was singularly credulous in her interviews with him) didn't swallow that.

Airey Neave thought it was probably as much as anything else because of the air of solid middle-class respectability he gave off which endeared him to the Western judges.

Although the two Russian Judges just wanted all 21 hanged

Yes, that's the key.

And apparently Jodl was hanged (rather than shot) to as a deal to stop them complaining about the ones who were imprisoned rather than hanged.

ICYMI the Speaker has gone ballistic this afternoon:-

There are strong rumours that the Government are going to produce their defence investment plan on Friday. That would be an utter disgrace and an utter kick in the face to Members of this House. I say to Downing Street that, under the ministerial code, it is the Government’s responsibility to ensure that major announcements are made here. This may be speculation, and I am sure it will be corrected, but I will be appalled if it is done on a Friday, given that Members have been waiting so long.

This affects all parties who have a great interest in the defence investment plan, including Members on the Government Benches. We all have jobs, and we all have people who serve in the armed forces. We must end the speculation and treat this House with the respect that elected Members deserve. Once again, it seems to me that we are becoming second-class citizens under this Government. I do not want that to be the case, and I hope that I am going to be proved wrong.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2026-06-10/debates/DA392024-5FAF-486E-9EC1-508DB9AF8B57/DefenceInvestmentPlan

Hasn't this Government got form for this? If I remember correctly the EHRC Final Guidance was released on a Friday. Happy to be corrected if wrong.

This isn't so much disrespect, as sheer incompetence.
They're simply unable to work out WTF they're doing on defence funding.

Our biggest threat is Russia. And Russia is being denuded and demoralised by its failure to win its war of choice and aggression against Ukraine. So imo that should be the short term focus - helping Ukraine to the max both unilaterally and in tandem with other European countries. That ticks all the boxes.

Longer term there's great uncertainty over America's direction which is perhaps a justifiable reason for some uncertainty about ours. You wouldn't want to commit to big expensive decisions based on deeply questionable assumptions. Not that this precludes incompetence, but it might be a factor.

Sounds right. If we don't know how to spend our defence budget sensibly give at least some of the money to Ukraine because they need it and it will be used to address a here-and-now threat. Then we can learn from them what effective defence looks like.