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Holy fuck sticks.

The Find Out Now Gorton & Denton 'poll' VI was based on just 51 people.

Greens now heading to clear favourite on BF.

They shouldn't be.

Although the latest Nowcast has the Greens gaining Manchester Withington and Manchester Rusholme from Labour, it also has Labour leading in Gorton narrowly with Reform second and the Greens third.

Its Gorton and Denton figures from Nowcast are Labour 29.8%, Reform 26.9% and Greens 24.1%

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast

Small LibDem vote can be squeezed by the anti-Reform vote. Easy tactical vote for the Greens for most of them.

May well be some anti-Reform Tories prepared to do the same. Easier tactical vote for the Greens for most of them than Labour.

Tories voting for Trots? Takes all sorts.

There are quite a lot of Tories for whom Green is their second choice. Takes all sorts indeed...

If the choice was either Green or Reform I’d be voting Green on the basis that Greens aren’t going to deport me.

I would vote Reform on that choice, no question

Are you saying that you want TSE deported? I think we should be told.

There is as far as I can see no Reform policy to deport those born and raised in the UK.

In any case the question was on a forced choice Reform or Green? I am still a Tory otherwise not Reform

Holy fuck sticks.

The Find Out Now Gorton & Denton 'poll' VI was based on just 51 people.

Greens now heading to clear favourite on BF.

They shouldn't be.

Although the latest Nowcast has the Greens gaining Manchester Withington and Manchester Rusholme from Labour, it also has Labour leading in Gorton narrowly with Reform second and the Greens third.

Its Gorton and Denton figures from Nowcast are Labour 29.8%, Reform 26.9% and Greens 24.1%

https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast

Small LibDem vote can be squeezed by the anti-Reform vote. Easy tactical vote for the Greens for most of them.

May well be some anti-Reform Tories prepared to do the same. Easier tactical vote for the Greens for most of them than Labour.

Tories voting for Trots? Takes all sorts.

There are quite a lot of Tories for whom Green is their second choice. Takes all sorts indeed...

If the choice was either Green or Reform I’d be voting Green on the basis that Greens aren’t going to deport me.

I would vote Reform on that choice, no question

Musk was invited loads but never went

Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

I don't think either of those statements is true

Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?

Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.

I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.

Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.

Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.

I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.

Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

He was the second son

porchester

Allegedly but you'd think Epstein would have run extensive DNA tests for blackmail purposes. Others too.

About that:

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/2017334638608265319

"Weird detail from the Epstein record that deserves way more scrutiny:

Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ordered 30 separate DNA test kits from 23andMe, enough that the company itself reached out to ask why.

Thirty."

Musk was invited loads but never went

Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

I don't think either of those statements is true

Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?

Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.

I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.

Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.

Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whom they knew to be a criminal, a rapist and a failure

FTFY

We then come back to why. It may be immigration - Trump was certainly active in sabotaging efforts to control it, so he knew it was a hot button issue. It may be the economy, or Gaza, both of which were ultimately on Russia who are closely aligned with Trump. It may be Twitter, which Musk weaponised to push false narratives with considerable success (as we see on here, indeed). Or it may be the continued efforts of Republican state governors to rig the vote, although that would hardly account for Pennsylvania or North Carolina.

Most likely, it was some combination of all of them.

Musk was invited loads but never went

Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

I don't think either of those statements is true

Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?

Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.

I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.

Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.

Does it ?

What do the polls tell you now ?

When it comes to Trump, it's the Russian opinions that matter.

Musk was invited loads but never went

Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

I don't think either of those statements is true

Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?

Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.

I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.

Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.

Does it ?

What do the polls tell you now ?

That the Dems are still more unpopular than both Trump and the Republicans.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/democratic-party

Although you might perhaps note that the headline figure is the Dems lead the Reps by 46-41 in Congressional polling (which is the figure that matters right now) so your statement is in fact incorrect. You might say they are viewed less favourably, which is not the same thing.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/state-of-the-union/generic-congressional-vote

I was looking at Ballot Box Scotland’s analysis of the recent YouGov Scottish poll. I noticed that Labour are forecast to pick up the final seat in 5 of the 8 regions. They are currently forecast to be the third largest party in terms of seats. If they don’t pick up those 5 seats they could be the fourth or even fifth largest party in Holyrood. How have the mighty fallen!

Labour could pick up some Holyrood constituency seats though, while England has seen a swing from Labour to Reform and Green since most of the local council seats up were last elected in 2022 and Wales has seen a swing from Labour to Plaid and Reform since the 2021 Senedd election in Scotland it is a different story. There has been a swing from SNP to Labour since the 2021 Holyrood election on both the constituency and regional list vote, albeit mainly because some 2021 SNP voters now back Reform or the Greens or LDs

Which constituency seats do you think Labour might pick up, other than the two they are already expected to win? Remember that the more constituency seats they win, the fewer regional seats they may win.

There has been a 3.5% swing from SNP to Labour since 2021 on the latest Yougov Holyrood poll last week.

I was looking at Ballot Box Scotland’s analysis of the recent YouGov Scottish poll. I noticed that Labour are forecast to pick up the final seat in 5 of the 8 regions. They are currently forecast to be the third largest party in terms of seats. If they don’t pick up those 5 seats they could be the fourth or even fifth largest party in Holyrood. How have the mighty fallen!

Labour could pick up some Holyrood constituency seats though, while England has seen a swing from Labour to Reform and Green since most of the local council seats up were last elected in 2022 and Wales has seen a swing from Labour to Plaid and Reform since the 2021 Senedd election in Scotland it is a different story. There has been a swing from SNP to Labour since the 2021 Holyrood election on both the constituency and regional list vote, albeit mainly because some 2021 SNP voters now back Reform or the Greens or LDs

Which constituency seats do you think Labour might pick up, other than the two they are already expected to win? Remember that the more constituency seats they win, the fewer regional seats they may win.

There has been a 3.5% swing from SNP to Labour since 2021 on the latest Yougov Holyrood poll last week.

The BBS summary I referred to was based on exactly that poll.