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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
A good gag, although of course that person really was a different man than Homer Simpson, and who had never heard of him.So many re-treads like Jenkyns:Yep. Their biggest liability and risk - their people. God.Just seen Andrea Jenkyns. FFSIf ever you need a reminder that there are four years for Reform to crash and burn in, watch that.
https://x.com/telegraph/status/1963947286532137451?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ
At the moment we all laugh about it. But at some point people do need to be convinced they want them running the country (the “scales will fall from people’s eyes” argument is overblown, I think - but not completely).
kle4
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
A fantastic tune, was talking to a friend about it the other week in the pub.Just before the 90s, but:I started the decade living in Fife, ended it living in Barbados. In between I met the love of my life, got two degrees and travelled to all kinds of interesting places, saw lots of great bands, and above all else I was young and it was fantarctic.Me too, sort of. Easily the most eventful (good and bad) period of my life.Loved the 90s.@paulhutcheonYes that's a real bridge back to those heady days. Oasis reunion and now this.
Confirmed: Douglas Alexander is the new Scotland Secretary.
It is also an incredible comeback. He was in the Cabinet in the last Labour Government and was Scotland Sec under Tony Blair.
The home i made with Bella became a house of pain
We weathered it together bound by a ball and chain
Is started up in fife, and ended up in tears (oh dear)
But i send her my love with a bang on the ear
You did better than Mike Scott.
boulay
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Two now. She loses Admiralty arch and will need other London digs."Three Homes and a Resignation""A guide to Hove for Angela RaynerLots of “Hove Actually” merchandise sold there
Not to be confused with Brighton, thank you very much.
By Nicholas Lezard"
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2025/09/a-guide-to-hove-for-angela-rayner
Foxy
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Shifting David Lammy looks like a mistake, and Yvette Cooper looks like a poor replacement. Cooper has done nothing at the Home Office. Shabana Mahmood as Justice Secretary is moved to Home Secretary just as she was taming the Sentencing Council, which may be a deserved promotion but looks ill-timed.Cooper has done nothing in every post she has held, absolutely amazing that she survives.
Tinfoil hat time: was Mandelson, our ambassador to Washington and back in London, envious of Lammy's apparent friendship with the Vice President, and quite likely next President before their next election?
malcolmg
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
He is such a sanctimonious twat.At least Mhairi Black has a sense of humour. Wee Dougie is like the wee free minister that padlocks the Childrens playground gates on a Sunday.@paulhutcheonThe long view! He was defeated in 2015 by the 12 year old Mhairi Black of the SNP. Ms Black, now aged 30 left the SNP earlier this year because trans, Palestine etc. Last seen doing comic turns at the Fringe.
Confirmed: Douglas Alexander is the new Scotland Secretary.
It is also an incredible comeback. He was in the Cabinet in the last Labour Government and was Scotland Sec under Tony Blair.
malcolmg
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Your comments of the last few days strongly indicated you'd be delighted to see Rayner humiliated and forced to resign. I'm not quite sure why though I suspect it's to do with what she said about Conservatives while in Opposition.Official documents show she has a £650,000 mortgage on the seaside flat through NatWest.Shit happens
The scale of the loan will have left her with mortgage repayments as high as £4,000 a month while her salary against an income of £5,400 a month after tax. As deputy prime minister she was taking home £8,100.
Following her resignation, she will have just £1,400 a month left over with two teenage children to look after, covering food and clothing bills, gas and electricity, holidays and sundry other costs.
She also has a £40,000 tax bill to pay as well as a likely penalty of £12,000 plus interest on top of about £1,000 – a total bill of £53,000.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/09/05/angela-rayner-may-have-to-sell-hove-flat-after-losing-job/
All of that being said, none of this sits well with me.
Since the Expenses Crisis, successive Governments have imposed levels of probity on Ministers and MPs which are draconian in extremis. As with other Prime Ministers, Starmer wants his Cabinet team to be seen to be beyond reproach when it comes to their personal financial affairs so while we can live with incompetence and stupidity, at least we don't have to live with corruption (apparently).
Rayner has made mistakes and breached the MInisterial Code making her position untenable. Had I done the same, I imagine I'd be looking at having to repay the unpaid Stamp Duty and perhaps a penalty but I wouldn't lose my job over it and this is where I'm uncomfortable with all this and was when it was applied to Conservatives.
We penalise mistakes rather than malevolence. Yes, let's go after Ministers who receive money from third party lobbying companies but this is Rayner's private domestic arrangements. I don't think she should be sacked for what she has done but the Ministerial Code dictates otherwise and them's the rules currently.
stodge
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Only a PB scotch expert would rate wee slimy Dougie.@paulhutcheonHow desperate and short of talent can they be.
Confirmed: Douglas Alexander is the new Scotland Secretary.
It is also an incredible comeback. He was in the Cabinet in the last Labour Government and was Scotland Sec under Tony Blair.
Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Just before the 90s, but:I started the decade living in Fife, ended it living in Barbados. In between I met the love of my life, got two degrees and travelled to all kinds of interesting places, saw lots of great bands, and above all else I was young and it was fantarctic.Me too, sort of. Easily the most eventful (good and bad) period of my life.Loved the 90s.@paulhutcheonYes that's a real bridge back to those heady days. Oasis reunion and now this.
Confirmed: Douglas Alexander is the new Scotland Secretary.
It is also an incredible comeback. He was in the Cabinet in the last Labour Government and was Scotland Sec under Tony Blair.
The home i made with Bella became a house of pain
We weathered it together bound by a ball and chain
Is started up in fife, and ended up in tears (oh dear)
But i send her my love with a bang on the ear
You did better than Mike Scott.
Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Not a patch on the 70'sMe too, sort of. Easily the most eventful (good and bad) period of my life.Loved the 90s.@paulhutcheonYes that's a real bridge back to those heady days. Oasis reunion and now this.
Confirmed: Douglas Alexander is the new Scotland Secretary.
It is also an incredible comeback. He was in the Cabinet in the last Labour Government and was Scotland Sec under Tony Blair.
malcolmg
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Re: Oh, Angie, don’t you weep – politicalbetting.com
Shifting David Lammy looks like a mistake, and Yvette Cooper looks like a poor replacement. Cooper has done nothing at the Home Office. Shabana Mahmood as Justice Secretary is moved to Home Secretary just as she was taming the Sentencing Council, which may be a deserved promotion but looks ill-timed.
Tinfoil hat time: was Mandelson, our ambassador to Washington and back in London, envious of Lammy's apparent friendship with the Vice President, and quite likely next President before their next election?
Tinfoil hat time: was Mandelson, our ambassador to Washington and back in London, envious of Lammy's apparent friendship with the Vice President, and quite likely next President before their next election?
