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Re: Russia Today and the Fremen Mirage – politicalbetting.com
Of course, the much bigger problem is without a much firmer than usual response from Britain, France and Germany backed by Poland and Turkey, it is very hard to see how Ukraine survives this.
The US hasn't sold out to Russia like this in decades (if ever).
Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower must all be spinning in their graves.
The US hasn't sold out to Russia like this in decades (if ever).
Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower must all be spinning in their graves.
ydoethur
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Re: Russia Today and the Fremen Mirage – politicalbetting.com
Perhaps if the bill, a private members bill with an active and well funded lobbying campaign behind it, had been better drafted there wouldn’t be so many amendments.The hundreds of amendments from a tiny number of peers is very clearly disruptive, which isn’t their jobToday’s Rawnsley is on the under-commented efforts by a handful of Lords to filibuster the nationally popular AD legislation, and the wider challenges the HoL is giving the government:Kite flying for Lords reform then to get a supine second chamber.
The passage of time has turned the peers, especially those of the Tory variety, bolshie. As the government has become increasingly unpopular, the Lords have waxed more aggressive about attacking Labour’s programme. They are much more powerful from a constitutional point of view than is generally appreciated because they can eat up huge amounts of parliamentary time and ministerial energy.
Almost entirely unreported in the media, anti-government peers have been dragging out proceedings and bogging down legislation for months. Labour might have a massive majority in the Commons, but in the bloated Lords it has just a quarter of the members eligible to attend proceedings.
Law and precedent are supposed to curb the unelected house’s capacity to make mischief. The Salisbury Convention holds that peers should not thwart a government when it is fulfilling a manifesto commitment, as Labour is with both the employment rights bill and the removal of the hereditaries.
Members of the Lords have put forward more than 1,000 proposed changes to the law to facilitate assisted dying. Hundreds of these amendments are apparently the work of just seven opponents of the legislation. Assisted dying is a complex and contentious issue that merits detailed scrutiny. It is a different matter if procedural sabotage is the intent. The Lib Dem peer Lord Goddard warned his fellow peers that they had “a duty” to treat the bill “with respect, not disdain, not threatening to derail it or run it out of time”.
More than one minister I’ve spoken to is bewildered that Number 10 seems reluctant to call out the delaying antics and wrecking tactics of vandals in ermine. I am similarly baffled that the government isn’t making more noise about it.
I’d dispute the Lords are doing anything wrong on the AD bill. They are doing their job.
The AD bill was not a manifesto commitment. It looks a complete mess to me.
Taz
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Re: Russia Today and the Fremen Mirage – politicalbetting.com
Today’s Rawnsley is on the under-commented efforts by a handful of Lords to filibuster the nationally popular AD legislation, and the wider challenges the HoL is giving the government:Kite flying for Lords reform then to get a supine second chamber.
The passage of time has turned the peers, especially those of the Tory variety, bolshie. As the government has become increasingly unpopular, the Lords have waxed more aggressive about attacking Labour’s programme. They are much more powerful from a constitutional point of view than is generally appreciated because they can eat up huge amounts of parliamentary time and ministerial energy.
Almost entirely unreported in the media, anti-government peers have been dragging out proceedings and bogging down legislation for months. Labour might have a massive majority in the Commons, but in the bloated Lords it has just a quarter of the members eligible to attend proceedings.
Law and precedent are supposed to curb the unelected house’s capacity to make mischief. The Salisbury Convention holds that peers should not thwart a government when it is fulfilling a manifesto commitment, as Labour is with both the employment rights bill and the removal of the hereditaries.
Members of the Lords have put forward more than 1,000 proposed changes to the law to facilitate assisted dying. Hundreds of these amendments are apparently the work of just seven opponents of the legislation. Assisted dying is a complex and contentious issue that merits detailed scrutiny. It is a different matter if procedural sabotage is the intent. The Lib Dem peer Lord Goddard warned his fellow peers that they had “a duty” to treat the bill “with respect, not disdain, not threatening to derail it or run it out of time”.
More than one minister I’ve spoken to is bewildered that Number 10 seems reluctant to call out the delaying antics and wrecking tactics of vandals in ermine. I am similarly baffled that the government isn’t making more noise about it.
I’d dispute the Lords are doing anything wrong on the AD bill. They are doing their job.
The AD bill was not a manifesto commitment. It looks a complete mess to me.
Taz
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Re: Russia Today and the Fremen Mirage – politicalbetting.com
Europe should now present its own 28 point peace plan including:Nah, do what the Russians have done but the other way around:
* immediate ceasefire at current line of contact
* negotiations to start re status of occupied territories - expectation that Russia will need to withdraw from Kherson & Zhaporizia but could retain occupied parts of Donbas & Crimea but which shall be demilitarised
* A no-fly zone imposed across all of Ukraine east of Dnieper river (including occupied territories). To be enforced by European air forces
* European (inc Turkey) peace-keeping forces on the ground - subject to Ukrainian agreement.
* Putin & Zhelensky to both stand aside with free elections within 1 year.
* Russia to withdraw immediately to 1991 border
* Putin, Lavrov, Dimitriev, and senior military commanders to be handed over to The Hague.
* 10km DMZ inside Russian territory along border with Ukraine, no-fly zone enforced by NATO
* Ukraine to join NATO with Ukranian agreement, NATO air defences to be positioned on Ukraine/Russia border
* Western assets of Russian state and sanctioned individuals to be paid as reparations to rebuild Ukraine
* UK and France to work with Ukraine on development and deployment of an independent nuclear deterrent.
* Permanent ban on sale of Russian oil and gas to EU and NATO countries.
* Russia to hand over forcibly displaced refugees and PoWs in Russia, Ukraine to hand over PoWs in return.
* Plan for resettlement of international Ukranian refugees, to be followed by a registration process and internationally observed elections within 12 months.
Sandpit
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Re: Russia Today and the Fremen Mirage – politicalbetting.com
So the 28 point peace plan has imploded already !It's insane that the USA is presenting Russia's plan and pretending they wrote it.
The US administration are so thick they couldn’t even be bothered to get a professional translation of the plan that was handed to them by the Kremlin .
Rubio can say what ever he likes now . No one’s believing his denials .
Short of adding a "We Love Vladimir Putin Day" to the Ukrainian calendar it could scarcely be more obvious.
Europe (including us) has to provide Ukraine with diplomatic and other support. Or this rigmarole will recur in a few years down the line.
Re: Russia Today and the Fremen Mirage – politicalbetting.com
A good piece, although it overlooks Russian subversion of the free world. The role of bribery and blackmail has been a significant one, and in many ways has been an important war front for the Russians. Trump's craven attitude to Putin is extremely significant. The EU must go ahead and take on the financial support for Kyiv and dare Trump to sabotage the process. Given the extraordinarily unpopularity of Trump at home, there is a high chance that he will not be able to break NATO even if he wants to. It forces the GOP to confront their little problem.
Any kind of Russian peace is simply a pause before World War III, so to give up after four years of Russian brutality and aggression will make the world a lot less safe. The UK, EU, Canada and a coalition of the willing must see this through or we will enter a very dark future indeed.
Any kind of Russian peace is simply a pause before World War III, so to give up after four years of Russian brutality and aggression will make the world a lot less safe. The UK, EU, Canada and a coalition of the willing must see this through or we will enter a very dark future indeed.
Cicero
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Re: Your Party might soon be the Just You Party – politicalbetting.com
You'd have to be Caracas.Exclusive: US to launch new phase of Venezuela operations, sources sayWho'd be a Venezuelan fisherman?
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Re: Your Party might soon be the Just You Party – politicalbetting.com
At the risk of upsetting TSE
The old “France surrenders” jokes need to die. They are stupid. Super cringe.
Think about it:
America has spent the last year desperately trying to surrender in a war it isn’t even fighting.
https://x.com/RonActual/status/1992204245064679601
The old “France surrenders” jokes need to die. They are stupid. Super cringe.
Think about it:
America has spent the last year desperately trying to surrender in a war it isn’t even fighting.
https://x.com/RonActual/status/1992204245064679601
Nigelb
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Re: Your Party might soon be the Just You Party – politicalbetting.com
When will British (and European and Canadian) politicians learn?
Cognitive dissonance seems to be the order of the day in the governments of Europe. Trump is just like another ordinary politician who can be negoitated with. Not only that, but he's a bit sensitive, so we must avoid any actual -you know- disagreeing with him. If we just push here, and look for a concession there, it will all be fine.
No.
It will not be fine.
It's a recipe for disaster.
One of Trump's greatest skills (and one is a fool if one does not recognize his abilities) is anchoring. Put a positiion down, and people will negotiate from there.
The only way to deal with someone so adept at anchoring is not to play at that game: we're not negotiating from there. Come back with something else, or we're not playing.
There is this massive fear that Trump will wave the tariff hammer, and wack those who get out of line. And you know what, that's partly true. But the more you stick together, the more that hammer is the US hammering its own consumers with ever higher prices. Trump is already unpopular. And concerns about the cost of living in the US already top voters concerns. So stand tall.
The only thing Trump respects is strength. And the more people stand up to him, the harder it is for him to bully others.
On Ukraine, and on other things, the only thing to say is "we're not responding to threats, treat us with the same respect you demand".
Cognitive dissonance seems to be the order of the day in the governments of Europe. Trump is just like another ordinary politician who can be negoitated with. Not only that, but he's a bit sensitive, so we must avoid any actual -you know- disagreeing with him. If we just push here, and look for a concession there, it will all be fine.
No.
It will not be fine.
It's a recipe for disaster.
One of Trump's greatest skills (and one is a fool if one does not recognize his abilities) is anchoring. Put a positiion down, and people will negotiate from there.
The only way to deal with someone so adept at anchoring is not to play at that game: we're not negotiating from there. Come back with something else, or we're not playing.
There is this massive fear that Trump will wave the tariff hammer, and wack those who get out of line. And you know what, that's partly true. But the more you stick together, the more that hammer is the US hammering its own consumers with ever higher prices. Trump is already unpopular. And concerns about the cost of living in the US already top voters concerns. So stand tall.
The only thing Trump respects is strength. And the more people stand up to him, the harder it is for him to bully others.
On Ukraine, and on other things, the only thing to say is "we're not responding to threats, treat us with the same respect you demand".
rcs1000
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Re: Your Party might soon be the Just You Party – politicalbetting.com
You know, I don't give a flying F whether some corrupt bunch of self absorbed crooks want to give Trump whatever. No doubt they will have another insider bet on it.Indeed.The President of France speaks for me.It's better than anything I have seen from the UK government but it is not nearly enough. Western European Air forces (plus Poland and the Baltics) could give Ukraine total air superiority over all of Ukraine tomorrow. The war could only go one way from there. The time to act, and to make Trump an irrelevant bystander, is now.
Avec nos partenaires européens et du G7, nous saluons les efforts des États-Unis pour ramener la paix en Ukraine.
Cela montre une chose : tout le monde veut la paix, sauf la Russie qui continue obstinément de bombarder l’Ukraine.
Le projet en 28 points doit être renforcé : aucune frontière ne doit être modifiée par la force et l’Ukraine ne doit jamais être vulnérable.
Toute décision impliquant l’Union européenne ou l’OTAN doit recueillir l’assentiment de leurs membres.
Nous continuerons de nous coordonner étroitement avec Kyiv et Washington.
Notre soutien collectif à l’Ukraine est décisif. La sécurité et la liberté de toute l’Europe sont en jeu.
https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1992306654659154034
Somebody I respect a lot has made the suggestion that we should speak to the Norwegians and then tell Trump he will will next year's Nobel Peace Prize if he continues to back Ukraine for the rest of his presidency.
The man is the scum of the earth, he is a real and present danger to our safety and to US democracy. The idea that he can or should be bribed further simply turns my stomach. Enough of him.
DavidL
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