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Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
It's difficult to compare Erasmus with Turing because they are completely different beasts. We can say that Turing is a lot more limited in what it offers than Erasmus. The key difference is that Erasmus is a student exchange programme that comes with funding, while Turing only provides travel bursaries and is not an exchange programme.The Turing scheme was nowhere near as good for the students as Erasmus is . Bozo thought he could dupe the gullible by sticking the Turing name on it .You keep posting this, but you never say why! Do you have a link to a comparison?
The big advantage of Erasmus to the institution is that it keeps the fees of the outgoing student.. While it effectively has to take incoming students for free, the marginal cost is minimal of an extra student in a course they are already running. For the same reason it doesn't matter too much if they take more students than they send.
Under Turing, institutions are "encouraged" to waive tuition fees while their students are abroad. But they have no incentive to do so and is actual loss of income for them. Which means students potentially have to pay additional tuition fees while they are abroad unless their institution has entered a bilateral arrangement with a partner abroad. This is a hassle for the institution and much more limited for the student compared with the market offered by Erasmus.
Good review of the two programmes here
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9141/
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Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
Why? It’s their idiotic choice. No one is forceably starving the idiots.Starmer might have to avoid Brighton hotels for the next few years.The callous comments some have made under this disgust me, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Palestine Action hunger strikers ‘set to die unless minister acts’
David Lammy, the justice secretary, has refused to meet lawyers for eight protesters refusing food while they await trials scheduled for months away
Palestine Action activists on hunger strike are likely to die in prison if the justice secretary does not intervene, lawyers for the eight protesters have claimed.
On Wednesday two of the group reached day 46 of their protest — the point at which Martin Hurson, 24, became the sixth of ten IRA hunger strikers to die in 1981. A third is on day 45.
In a letter sent to David Lammy, the justice secretary and deputy prime minister, on Tuesday the activists’ lawyers said that without intervention their deaths were “increasingly more than a mere possibility. It is a likelihood.”
Qesser Zuhrah, 20, who is on remand in HMP Bronzefield in Surrey, has been refusing food since November 2. She collapsed “a few nights ago” with her legs shaking uncontrollably, her lawyers said.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/palestine-action-hunger-strikers-set-to-die-unless-minister-acts-qcjttqg8t
Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
I was amused on the last thread to see that one poster noted the right can get away with everything while the left get criticised for it.A close up of the Obama plaque:And yet there are still a few people here who think he was a better option than Harris.
As an example, other posters commented how Buttigieg was ruled out because he didn't clearly say Biden was getting a bit past it, and would thus lose to Vance because of the questions he (Buttigieg) would face about it. While ignoring the significant drawback that Vance is covering up that Trump manifestly has advanced and rapidly progressing dementia.
ydoethur
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Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
I see there is no mention of the £570m per year cost in the question.
Instead it mentions 'without paying extra fees'.
According to the BBC there were 9,900 UK students who participated in Erasmus in its last year so if an equivalent number took part that would make it about £57k per student.
Compare with the Turing scheme which seems to be benefitting about 40k students for only £100m.
Once again the EU is exposed as a waste of money and this government yet again shows it couldn't get interest free credit at DFS.
Instead it mentions 'without paying extra fees'.
According to the BBC there were 9,900 UK students who participated in Erasmus in its last year so if an equivalent number took part that would make it about £57k per student.
Compare with the Turing scheme which seems to be benefitting about 40k students for only £100m.
Once again the EU is exposed as a waste of money and this government yet again shows it couldn't get interest free credit at DFS.
Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
Starmer might have to avoid Brighton hotels for the next few years.Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
Palestine Action hunger strikers ‘set to die unless minister acts’
David Lammy, the justice secretary, has refused to meet lawyers for eight protesters refusing food while they await trials scheduled for months away
Palestine Action activists on hunger strike are likely to die in prison if the justice secretary does not intervene, lawyers for the eight protesters have claimed.
On Wednesday two of the group reached day 46 of their protest — the point at which Martin Hurson, 24, became the sixth of ten IRA hunger strikers to die in 1981. A third is on day 45.
In a letter sent to David Lammy, the justice secretary and deputy prime minister, on Tuesday the activists’ lawyers said that without intervention their deaths were “increasingly more than a mere possibility. It is a likelihood.”
Qesser Zuhrah, 20, who is on remand in HMP Bronzefield in Surrey, has been refusing food since November 2. She collapsed “a few nights ago” with her legs shaking uncontrollably, her lawyers said.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/palestine-action-hunger-strikers-set-to-die-unless-minister-acts-qcjttqg8t
DavidL
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Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
The resolution is they start eating again.Regarding the hunger strike, are the people asking for intervention calling for them to be force fed?No, it's more they are on remand, and likely to be on remand for another two years, the other issue is that they were arrested before Palestine Action were proscribed.
The hunger strikers’ demands include immediate bail, the lifting of the proscription of Palestine Action and an end to restrictions on their communications in prison.
The letter from Imran Khan & Partners to Lammy, which has been seen by The Times, concludes: “You are uniquely placed in that as a senior government minister with oversight of His Majesty’s prison service, you can bring about a resolution of the situation, such that the increasing deterioration of our clients’ health does not lead to their death.
They’re suspected criminals on remand. They are not on remand for singing too loudly in church.
They’re not in a position to make demands.
Taz
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Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
When I hear some people going on about these bellends, who can simply end this by eating some food, I’m here.Starmer might have to avoid Brighton hotels for the next few years.Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
Palestine Action hunger strikers ‘set to die unless minister acts’
David Lammy, the justice secretary, has refused to meet lawyers for eight protesters refusing food while they await trials scheduled for months away
Palestine Action activists on hunger strike are likely to die in prison if the justice secretary does not intervene, lawyers for the eight protesters have claimed.
On Wednesday two of the group reached day 46 of their protest — the point at which Martin Hurson, 24, became the sixth of ten IRA hunger strikers to die in 1981. A third is on day 45.
In a letter sent to David Lammy, the justice secretary and deputy prime minister, on Tuesday the activists’ lawyers said that without intervention their deaths were “increasingly more than a mere possibility. It is a likelihood.”
Qesser Zuhrah, 20, who is on remand in HMP Bronzefield in Surrey, has been refusing food since November 2. She collapsed “a few nights ago” with her legs shaking uncontrollably, her lawyers said.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/palestine-action-hunger-strikers-set-to-die-unless-minister-acts-qcjttqg8t

Taz
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Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
If there are only 18k then that's £31k each.Voters support middle class kids dossing around for a year abroad. 👍You, and the poll question, are not quite right. It's not just for university students - it includes apprentices and FE college vocational students, many/most of whom are not middle class. In 2018/19 10,000 Erasmus beneficiaries were university students, and 8,000 were from the latter groups. And you may not have noticed, but a lot of university students aren't middle class these days.
Personally, I'm pleasantly surprised by the polling on this.
Seems steep to me.
I would like to see what the budget is spent on. Has anyone managed to find accounts?
Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
Starmer might have to avoid Brighton hotels for the next few years.The callous comments some have made under this disgust me, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Palestine Action hunger strikers ‘set to die unless minister acts’
David Lammy, the justice secretary, has refused to meet lawyers for eight protesters refusing food while they await trials scheduled for months away
Palestine Action activists on hunger strike are likely to die in prison if the justice secretary does not intervene, lawyers for the eight protesters have claimed.
On Wednesday two of the group reached day 46 of their protest — the point at which Martin Hurson, 24, became the sixth of ten IRA hunger strikers to die in 1981. A third is on day 45.
In a letter sent to David Lammy, the justice secretary and deputy prime minister, on Tuesday the activists’ lawyers said that without intervention their deaths were “increasingly more than a mere possibility. It is a likelihood.”
Qesser Zuhrah, 20, who is on remand in HMP Bronzefield in Surrey, has been refusing food since November 2. She collapsed “a few nights ago” with her legs shaking uncontrollably, her lawyers said.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/palestine-action-hunger-strikers-set-to-die-unless-minister-acts-qcjttqg8t
Re: Even Reform voters support rejoining Erasmus – politicalbetting.com
Footballer Paul Gascoigne has arrived at the prison with some KFC and Stella saying he is a friend of the hunger strikersHe heard they were striking for Gazza?


