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Re: How many Reform MPs on the 31st of December 2025? – politicalbetting.com
...you're an endoscopist specialising in colonoscopies?If you meet an arsehole in the morning, you met an arsehole.As I’ve said before. If one person falls out with you, it may be them. If dozens of people fall out with you….As we say in Yorkshire, this lot couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.And these fuckers want to run the country. There’s a quote about running a bath that comes to mind.I'd say 4, but a more interesting question is what the turnover shows.So far it is two out and one in.
How many in, and how many out?
I still the Farage fans still cannot process that one day Rupert Lowe criticises Nigel Farage and the next day he is suspended on what turns out to be spurious grounds.
If you meet arseholes all day ...
Selebian
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Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
It looks like a spat between two of our posters is going to give Coronation Street and The Archers a run for their money.
Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
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“Absolutely Ismael, to think someone found an even more pointless argument to take over their lives.”
It looks like a spat between two of our posters is going to give Coronation Street and The Archers a run for their money.Just think, in 3,000 years time a Palestinian and and Israeli will be laughing in a bar “hey Moshe, at least we didn’t keep this stupid fucking argument going as long as HYUFD and kjh.”
“Absolutely Ismael, to think someone found an even more pointless argument to take over their lives.”
boulay
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Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
Norman Tebbit has diedA decent and appropriate eulogy. Thank you.
Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
My retired mother-in-law was previously one of Corbyn's greatest supporters and voted Labour in 2017 and 2019.It's not really that surprising, Corbynites and Fukkers are both essentially yelling 'it's all wrong' while putting up fantasy solutions that sound attractive unless you examine them in depth.
With Starmer in charge Labour lost her vote, to Reform.
In the event Corbyn creates himself a new party, I have no doubt she will be switching back to Corbyn's new party.
I wonder how common she is amongst the current Reform voters ?
Basically left behind, wanting a massive shake up with very left leaning economic ideas ?
I suspect there may be a rather large cross over between Farage and Corbyn supporters and this new party may have some unexpected results in where they get their voters from.
ydoethur
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Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
Aside from 'a tough character' I don't agree with that at all.Norman Tebbit has diedSad to hear, a tough character who no doubt would have been delighted at the chance of a Farage premiership. In his heart he was always more UKIP and Reform than Tory
Cookie
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Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
Norman Tebbit has diedI remember meeting him on a college trip to Parliament in 1994. A lovely charming man who was very happy chatting to this group of teenagers from a long long way away from his constituency.
Re: Will the Lib Dems win more seats than the Tories? – politicalbetting.com
I am spending the day in the garden sorting stuff for the shed which I have ordered. It is also a beautiful day.Big day today in the Horizon enquiry when the judge rules on compensation:Actually, justice will take even longer (first trials c.2028... if there are any).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g267xe3y6o
Hope @Cyclefree is well enough to watch after all her work on it.
It's just a real shame that it's going to take so long to bring some of the actual criminals involved to justice, as that's a separate report.
The second report will talk about blame, but probably no more than that.
The second report will not hold people criminally responsible because a public inquiry cannot legally do that. It is one of their failings but it will apportion blame.
In the meanwhile here is my Post Office Bingo Card for you to tick off:
- The human impact was awful.
- It was made worse by the conduct of the Post Office and others, including its lawyers and governments over many years.
- It is still continuing.
- Compensation is due, is urgent, is too slow and the government needs to get a move on because the current situation is disgraceful. 350 of the ca. 900 SPMs affected have died without getting compensation or the return of the money fraudulently taken from them.
- Tribute will be paid to the SPMs.
- The government will welcome the report, say how terrible it all is and pretend that it has no power to do anything about compensation even though the Treasury's dead hands are all over it.
- The Post Office will issue some PR guff about how sorry it is and how much it is doing. Someone will use the appalling phrase "at pace".
- Most journalists will forget to ask why it is that Rodric Williams one of the shiftiest of the PO lawyers who gave evidence and who was heavily involved during the entire period when the problems were known about and covered up is now in charge of compensation at the Post Office.
- The phrase "conflict of interest" will not be mentioned because no-one - other than me - seems to understand or recognise one, even when it is staring you in the face.
- The government continues to think overturning convictions & giving out a few baubles is enough.
- This is how all governments since at least Aberfan have operated. It is Potemkin justice.
Too cynical? Or just realistic? Let's see, shall we.
Cyclefree
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Re: Don't laugh but I'm betting on Jeremy Corbyn or Zarah Sultana becoming PM before 2030
Daydream Be-Leaver.David Jones, the former Conservative cabinet minister, has defected to Reform UK, declaring the party is the only one in British politics with “urgency”.Isn't he the one who changed his name to Bowie so he wouldn't be confused with the lead singer of the Monkees?
The former Welsh secretary announced his decision on Monday night, becoming the most senior defection yet to Nigel Farage’s party.
Re: Don't laugh but I'm betting on Jeremy Corbyn or Zarah Sultana becoming PM before 2030
Building more prisons - on its own - is not the answer. It may be that building more prisons is part of the solution, but it needs to be combined with many other things. Like - for a start - fuding the criminal justice system properly.At the end of the day, a prison sentence is expensive for the state/taxpayer, isn't very successful at rehabilitatiing offenders and doesn't seem to deter many from reoffending. On top of this, many with criminal records, especially if they are jailed, have problems finding work afterwards (if they are lucky, it's usually minimum wage menial work) so continue to be a drain on the state/taxpayer. The system is completely broken, and building more prisons is not a solution.29% of current voters back Reform on average in polls, no way do we have 29% of posters on here backing Reform.Are we that painfully short?No I will remain one of the few still PB Tories left even if this site is also painfully short of Reform backers compared to the national electorateYou do sound like you might be just a hop, skip and a jump away from defecting to the very dark side.Thousands more thieves, thugs and drug addicts will avoid court under new plans to ease the crisis in the justice system.Another review Reform would reverse
A government review led by former High Court judge Sir Brian Leveson will recommend that ‘out of court resolutions’ are used routinely for ‘low-tier’ including theft, drug-taking and some public order offences.
The move will mean many more offenders will escape with a slap on the wrist, with some not even receiving a criminal record.
Sir Brian will also propose increasing the ‘discount’ for a guilty plea from one-third to 40 per cent of an offender’s sentence. Coupled with recent plans to allow offenders to serve just one-third of their sentence, the move would see some criminals serve less than a fifth of their nominal sentence.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14883535/Government-sentencing-revie-thieves-thugs-addicts-green-light-shoplift-drugs.html
I can think of many Reform backers here, mainly those who caveat it with "more in sorrow than anger" type of remarks, but pollsters don't show caveats on whom people have chosen.
Plus we have thousands of self-identifying 'falcons' here who back Reform.
Reform even got 14% at the last GE and even Leon voted Labour then
rcs1000
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