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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
I didn’t realise the SNP had an Anas Sarwar as well. Is he related to the Labour Anas Sarwar?SNP’s Anas Sarwar was always on women’s side.Scottish Lib Dems have gone a bit quiet. Mind, so have Scottish Labour.I don't think that's the official party tbf, just some nutcase account run by an activist.The Lib Dem’s are unhappy.I hope that Fife Council reassess their treatment of nurse Sandie Peggie.Just popping in from Purgatory to sayHope you get the all clear @Cyclefree, and yes completely agree with this sentiment. Congratulations to all the women who fought for this and won against all odds. A unanimous decision from the supreme court is an astonishing vindication for them and at some level this ruling changes my view of staying in the UK long term as the father of a daughter. The thought of boys invading girls facilities and sports in schools was playing on my mind a lot.
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Do not ever mess with angry women who know their stuff. And we do. We really do.
I see that Harriet Harman has already started misconstruing what the judgment says and means, just like people did with Forstater. Well, I and others will have something to say about that and we're not going to let her and others get away with yet more lies about what the law says.
Meanwhile I'm having blood tests for my heart. And some sort of heart scan will be needed. To find out if there is some sort of heart failure. Well, I'd bloody well like to know that too - and preferably before I die of boredom - or it - waiting to be told. Am on limited fluid intake so I have to pee in a blasted bedpan. Still waiting for the breast surgeons to see me and tell me that I have cancer or some other nastiness which seems to have shown up on the CT scan in my lymph nodes and which is what the doctors have been going on about since Sunday night and it is now Wednesday evening. Meanwhile I'm running out of knickers.
But apart from that it's all absolutely fucking peachy .......
It's time for the government to get clear with all departments, sports and businesses to clear out all of the nonsense. Women's spaces should once again be reserved for actual women, not men who play dress up so they can perve on girls and women.
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/5223082/nhs-fife-sandie-peggie-tribunal-supreme-court-ruling/
https://x.com/anassarwar/status/1912577587278143984?s=61
Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
Your last point is incorrect. Trans people have all the same protections against direct and indirect discrimination that every other person with a protected characteristic has. And they have the right - unlike other groups - to change their birth certificate and legally change their gender.Yet part of Lord Hodge's ruling states:As I pointed out this morning, I don't think that's defensible. The court was asked to pick between two mutually exclusive positions - a man can/cannot become a woman and acquire the rights of a woman in the Equality Act via a GRC - and picked the latter. This accomplishes at least the following
"But we counsel against reading this judgement as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not."
He added that the legislation gives transgender people "protection, not only against discrimination through the protected characteristic of gender reassignment, but also against direct discrimination, indirect discrimination and harassment in substance in their acquired gender".
An important caveat which seems to have been ignored by those setting a triumphalist tone
* The concept of transsexuality in UK jurisdictions no longer exists. A man is a man until he dies, and any actions to the contrary have no legal effect
* A person after a GRC has the same rights as that same person before a GRC: it has no legally enforcable effect
* The rights of a trans person now devolve to the right not to be fired and the right not to be thumped. The former can be done sotto voce and the latter can only be enforced after the fact.
The GRA was brought in to deal with pension discrimination and allow marriage after the ECHR Goodwin case. Pension discrimination based on sex has gone and same sex marriage is now lawful. The only benefit of a GRC is that it allows a man or woman to lawfully change gender so that they can marry as an opposite sex couple. And if that makes them happy so be it. It was meant to change a person's status vis a vis the state not make demands of other private citizens. It has been the determination of activists to force others to accept that gender means sex and that they should be able to deprive others of sex based rights or render them effectively meaningless or substitute sex with gender which has caused the conflict and it is this which has been resolved today.
It is worth reading the sections of the judgment dealing with lesbians to understand what was at stake. The written interventions by various lesbian groups seem to have made a real difference to the judges. As one of those interveners said today: "Lesbians finally felt seen." It was quite moving. They have felt the brunt of many attacks. There are lots of men who cannot cope with women who say no and women who have no interest in men. The demands that lesbians should be forced to consider men as sexual partners because of what men described themselves as was no more than this decade's version of men telling lesbians a good shag would "cure" them. It has been disgusting.
Cyclefree
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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
Thanks for all the good wishes. My pointy elbows are ready for the morning.
I could plot my path to health if I actually knew what the fuck was wrong with me. But while the docs have managed to establish that it wasn't a blood clot which caused sharp stabbing pains every time I breathed, they have yet to tell me what the cause is. This is despite 2 CT scans, an ECG, 2 blood tests, an X-ray and about a million BP and stethoscope readings.
OTOH I now have an 88-page judgment to read, some gleeful gloating along with my legal feminist friends who have been interveners in the case and for light relief Elizabeth Jane Howard's Cazalet novels which are sharp and full of sly humour and acute observation. And plenty of time to do it. 😟
I could plot my path to health if I actually knew what the fuck was wrong with me. But while the docs have managed to establish that it wasn't a blood clot which caused sharp stabbing pains every time I breathed, they have yet to tell me what the cause is. This is despite 2 CT scans, an ECG, 2 blood tests, an X-ray and about a million BP and stethoscope readings.
OTOH I now have an 88-page judgment to read, some gleeful gloating along with my legal feminist friends who have been interveners in the case and for light relief Elizabeth Jane Howard's Cazalet novels which are sharp and full of sly humour and acute observation. And plenty of time to do it. 😟
Cyclefree
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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
I have the heart of a lion and a lifetime ban from Chester Zoo.Stephen King said:Not Iain Banks?I should probably credit Stephen King with the inspiration for that line.So presumably Sir Shifty now thinks a woman cant have a penis.Of course a woman can have a penis.
Some of them keep them in glass jars on their bedside table.
“I have the heart of a small boy… I keep it in a jar on my desk.”
Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
Just popping in from Purgatory to sayYup. I've had a similar, albeit, of course, masculine time in hospital. And it's dreadful. Infantilising. You're no longer in control and for people who expect to be that's VERY difficult.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do not ever mess with angry women who know their stuff. And we do. We really do.
I see that Harriet Harman has already started misconstruing what the judgment says and means, just like people did with Forstater. Well, I and others will have something to say about that and we're not going to let her and others get away with yet more lies about what the law says.
Meanwhile I'm having blood tests for my heart. And some sort of heart scan will be needed. To find out if there is some sort of heart failure. Well, I'd bloody well like to know that too - and preferably before I die of boredom - or it - waiting to be told. Am on limited fluid intake so I have to pee in a blasted bedpan. Still waiting for the breast surgeons to see me and tell me that I have cancer or some other nastiness which seems to have shown up on the CT scan in my lymph nodes and which is what the doctors have been going on about since Sunday night and it is now Wednesday evening. Meanwhile I'm running out of knickers.
But apart from that it's all absolutely fucking peachy .......
Best wishes. Hope it's sorted out today/tomorrow because SFA is likely to happen over Easter!
Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
Fingers crossed all goes well for @Cyclefree
isam
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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
Yesterday, I read a comment by a member of the Trump administration complaining that Europe (in general) was not doing enough to support Starlink, and risked ending up dependent on China.
To which I thought Really? Do you not have any idea why the US might now be seen as a less reliable ally than they were in the past?
It is astonishing the extent to which members of the Trump administration don't seem to think that there might be consequences to pissing off ones (historic) allies.
To which I thought Really? Do you not have any idea why the US might now be seen as a less reliable ally than they were in the past?
It is astonishing the extent to which members of the Trump administration don't seem to think that there might be consequences to pissing off ones (historic) allies.
rcs1000
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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
whichever way you decide, Britain will prosper." That would have taken so much of the divisiveness out of the question.That's bollocks though
Scott_xP
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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
FPT
My concerns remain. The EU is an essentially undemocratic institution. It now contains undemocratic members such as Hungary. The Euro was way ahead of its time. The economies of Europe were not nearly integrated enough to share the same currency, interest rates and monetary policies. The consequences for many have been disastrous. Their share of world GDP has fallen sharply as a result. Their bureaucracy makes it difficult to compete internationally. Even Vance is right sometimes.
OTOH the world has got a lot more uncertain than it was at the time of the vote. America is no longer a reliable friend or ally. There is much to be said for being part of a bigger club. Brexit has added to the paperwork of trade. It has had adverse effects on our freedom of movement throughout Europe and the ability to work there. We have not used our new freedoms well.
It’s still a balancing act. I think I would probably reach the same conclusion but I can see circumstances where I wouldn’t.
My concerns remain. The EU is an essentially undemocratic institution. It now contains undemocratic members such as Hungary. The Euro was way ahead of its time. The economies of Europe were not nearly integrated enough to share the same currency, interest rates and monetary policies. The consequences for many have been disastrous. Their share of world GDP has fallen sharply as a result. Their bureaucracy makes it difficult to compete internationally. Even Vance is right sometimes.
OTOH the world has got a lot more uncertain than it was at the time of the vote. America is no longer a reliable friend or ally. There is much to be said for being part of a bigger club. Brexit has added to the paperwork of trade. It has had adverse effects on our freedom of movement throughout Europe and the ability to work there. We have not used our new freedoms well.
It’s still a balancing act. I think I would probably reach the same conclusion but I can see circumstances where I wouldn’t.
DavidL
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Re: Tories won't be in the top 2 at the next election if Badenoch maintains these numbers
Just popping in from Purgatory to say
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do not ever mess with angry women who know their stuff. And we do. We really do.
I see that Harriet Harman has already started misconstruing what the judgment says and means, just like people did with Forstater. Well, I and others will have something to say about that and we're not going to let her and others get away with yet more lies about what the law says.
Meanwhile I'm having blood tests for my heart. And some sort of heart scan will be needed. To find out if there is some sort of heart failure. Well, I'd bloody well like to know that too - and preferably before I die of boredom - or it - waiting to be told. Am on limited fluid intake so I have to pee in a blasted bedpan. Still waiting for the breast surgeons to see me and tell me that I have cancer or some other nastiness which seems to have shown up on the CT scan in my lymph nodes and which is what the doctors have been going on about since Sunday night and it is now Wednesday evening. Meanwhile I'm running out of knickers.
But apart from that it's all absolutely fucking peachy .......
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do not ever mess with angry women who know their stuff. And we do. We really do.
I see that Harriet Harman has already started misconstruing what the judgment says and means, just like people did with Forstater. Well, I and others will have something to say about that and we're not going to let her and others get away with yet more lies about what the law says.
Meanwhile I'm having blood tests for my heart. And some sort of heart scan will be needed. To find out if there is some sort of heart failure. Well, I'd bloody well like to know that too - and preferably before I die of boredom - or it - waiting to be told. Am on limited fluid intake so I have to pee in a blasted bedpan. Still waiting for the breast surgeons to see me and tell me that I have cancer or some other nastiness which seems to have shown up on the CT scan in my lymph nodes and which is what the doctors have been going on about since Sunday night and it is now Wednesday evening. Meanwhile I'm running out of knickers.
But apart from that it's all absolutely fucking peachy .......
Cyclefree
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