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On AllisonPearsongate

"This didn't happen overnight. It took years and years for people on the Left to construct the censorship machinery that inevitably led to police knocking on a journalist's door for something she posted on social media.

These bigots HATE that you might think differently and NOTHING will change their thinking until the Right grabs hold of this machinery and turns it on them."

https://x.com/thackerpd/status/1857777696253857855

It didnt happen overnight, no. It started with the Public Order Act 1986 under Comrade Thatcher. The most recent review giving current guidelines was conducted by Trotskyite Braverman.

Why are you happy to live in fantasy land of made up stuff rather than face reality? Pretty pathetic.

The Free Speech Union on "non hate crime incidents"

"In response to freedom of information requests, police forces across Britain have revealed that 'non-crime hate incidents' (NCHIs) are being logged against people in authority doing their jobs. Examples include:

❌ An NCHI recorded against a doctor in West Yorkshire after a patient alleged they were misdiagnosed "because they were bisexual".

❌ A journalist's article about his interview with a "deaf and dumb" scooterist being reported to the police as a hate incident.

❌ A social worker was also reported to the police in Lancashire over claims she had abused her position and racially discriminated against the victim by preventing her from seeing her children.

https://freespeechunion.org/doctors-and-vicars-accused-of-non-crime-hate-incidents/

In 2014, the College of Policing — a taxpayer-funded quango — came up with the concept of the NCHI in its 'Hate Crime Operational Guidance'. As defined in this document, an NCHI is any incident perceived by the victim or any bystanders to be motivated by hostility or prejudice to the victim based on a 'protected' characteristic (race or perceived race, religion or perceived religion, and so on).

For the avoidance of doubt, non-crime hate incidents really are as Orwellian as they sound. They aren't anonymised, and sit forever against the names of the alleged perpetrators without any real investigation or right of appeal. In addition, if one is recorded against your name it can show up on an enhanced criminal records check and prevent you from getting a job.

That's right, you might not get a job because someone 'perceives' you've committed a 'non-crime'.

Here's a short 🧵detailing some of the most egregious of the 250,000+ NCHIs we estimate the police in England and Wales have logged since 2014..."

THIS IS NOT TRIVIAL

In fact it's fucking sinister and Orwellian and we need rid of this shit

https://x.com/SpeechUnion/status/1857803685100744883

If you are willing to pay me and if some of the politicos on this website (@NickPalmer, @Tissue_Price, @RochdalePioneers, @JohnO ) can back me up with the clearances, i am more than willing to spend the time going thru each NCHI database and writing it up. I used to hold SC and CTC clearance, I'm a member of the RSS, and have a background as a researcher. You have more than enough money to do this and would be considerably better than shovelling drugs up your nose while you wank.

Or you can keep posting here in an outraged manner. Up to you.

Regarding America. John Gray describes Trump's victory (in the article linked to earlier) as being similar to the soviet collapse, but the more I think about it, I don't agree with that analysis. My sense is that 'the soviet collapse' scenario would have been likely to occur if business carried on as usual, because the western liberal order was unable to adapt to numerous intractible issues it was encountering, the Ukraine war being the most obvious one; and was beholden to intolerant extremists. So the opportunity with Trump is for evolution, in to a new world order that has none of the illusions and baggage of the old 'liberal world order'. It is essentially up to Europe how it wants to deal with this but what should be clear to everyone now is the old world is not coming back or being restored, and those that adapt fastest will succeed. It is unfortunate for the UK that we have Labour in power at this moment, who have failed to make any preperation for what has just happened, despite the election of Trump being a highly likely outcome. They need to adapt very quickly.

Yes, stuff is changing, but I am not sure Darkage has made allowance for the fact that whatever is the new world order will have its own 'illusions and baggage'.

Further, liberalism being unable to deal with 'numerous intractable issues' it is encountering may be true, but that may be a reality of the human condition - the thing Matthew Parris compares with the unopenable pistachio nuts at the end of the party. They are still there because you can't open them. Some non liberals are remarkably bad at running countries too.

Also, the only other government available is a Tory one. Is there any evidence it is prepared any more than anyone else for what is coming. And what would you do in Labour's position?

America reelecting Trump is certainly a world-changing event. It doesn't change the challenges we face, but it makes most of them more difficult and adds a new one. It's hard to see an upside to it unless you're one of these people that views "woke" as some sort of mortal threat to civilisation. Most Trump apologism/fandom comes from that quarter, I'd say.

Woke is a mortal threat to Civilisation. Next

My point exactly. Holding that (bizarre imo but whatever) view can lead a person to feel good about America being delivered into the hands of a narcissistic hate-mongering conman.

To be serious (i'm in a slightly playful mood, being home and proud of my exciting jeju jams in my pantry) I think Trump is just the beginning, not the culinination, a harbinger rather than the ne plus ultra

Unless things change fast and dramatically, Europeans will elect hardmen that make Trump look like your caricature of him, a silly, biliious narcissistic conman

Well to return the seriousness - yes that's a worry. Trump's win empowers and validates those attitudes, and they're already rife.

Anyway, must be off. He's mewing at me and swishing his tail. Needs some Whiskas.

When, and why, did Trump move in with you?

The culture war is over. Trump won.

Wrong

Well as somebody on the left who is sympathetic to the “culture war” I’m saying I’ve given up. I can’t be alone in that thought.

GE2024 was barely about culture, that issue as far as I can see seems to be receding.

You won, I lost. It’s the economy that matters now - and funnily enough that is all that SKS seems to be focussing on?

You aren't alone. AOC of the "squad" has removed her pronouns from her social media bios. She's the most far leftist woke warrior in the Democratic party and she's given up.

The pronouns thing was something I wasn’t particularly bothered about. Making others feel like they should I don’t agree with but it you want to is that a problem?

Anyway, I strongly feel it’s over. We will go back to the centre now, especially in this country.

Let trans people live in peace. Protect single sex spaces. Protect sports. Job done.

It needs to go a lot further than that, dismantle all ESG/DEI initiatives and regulatory reporting requirements for companies, stand behind companies who seek profit rather than some ephemeral idea of "social good" when the idiots at the activist charities come after them, call time on black history month, pride month and all that rainbow warrior nonsense. End all positive discrimination in hiring and for university spots, outlaw it - the best candidate should always get the job/place based on ability, skill and realised potential.

We should live in a country where the colour of someone's skin doesn't give them any disadvantages or advantages. The idea is ridiculous.

How do we stop utterly mediocre posh boys like Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees Mogg and countless others sliding into their usual positions of power on the back of who their parents are and who they met when they went to school?

The conveyor belt that takes people who would not get close to where they do if talent and ability were the deciding factors from school through university to positions of significant influence and responsibility has done far more damage to this country over a far longer period than the odd DEI programme.

OMFG it's getting dark at 4pm

You're back from the tropics then?

EMBRACE the seasonality. It's what makes our long summer nights so rewarding. There's a cold snap coming up: which gives you the opportunity to hike up to a modest elevation to see some really quite heartbreakingly lovely sunset before teatime, then have your dinner in some cosy pub somewhere. Because I'm a parent of heavily scheduled children and have almost no scope to be spontaneous, my annual November sunset hike up Arnside Knott with two like minded familities was pencilled in months ago for months for tomorrow, when it's due to be pissing down with rain at the allotted slot, but you have the flexibility to do it whenever there's a clear evening.
Being in London you have neither the elevation nor the west coast that is accessible to me, but all you need is somewhere with a southwesterly view. I'd say you get a cracking November sunset from Box Hill, and Surrey's leaf coverage will be close to its best right now.

EDIT: Just checked the weather forecast. Go to Box Hill on Wednesday and watch the sunset: 51.247431, -0.311295. That will make sunset at 4 worthwhile.

On AllisonPearsongate

"This didn't happen overnight. It took years and years for people on the Left to construct the censorship machinery that inevitably led to police knocking on a journalist's door for something she posted on social media.

These bigots HATE that you might think differently and NOTHING will change their thinking until the Right grabs hold of this machinery and turns it on them."

https://x.com/thackerpd/status/1857777696253857855

The world was a happier place when people like you were off their tits on class A drugs, whilst drinking and shagging with gay abandon. The side effect of coming off the all time high has been a propensity for miserable prejudice against anyone they believe might be having a nicer time than themselves.

ALSO, I'm genuinely unsure that anyone is having a nicer time than me

Well, we've just bought a building plot and are about to embark on a 2-3 year eco-build adventure. Meanwhile we're living in a rented cottage looking out over beautiful Dorset valley.

So all good here, thanks for asking.

Good luck!

Thanks! And thanks for the pointer to BuildHub (I think it was you who put me on to it) - it's a great resource.

Is that like pornhub, but for people with a specific fetish?

Their specialty is erections.

I’ll get my coat.

The culture war is over. Trump won.

Wrong

Well as somebody on the left who is sympathetic to the “culture war” I’m saying I’ve given up. I can’t be alone in that thought.

GE2024 was barely about culture, that issue as far as I can see seems to be receding.

You won, I lost. It’s the economy that matters now - and funnily enough that is all that SKS seems to be focussing on?

You aren't alone. AOC of the "squad" has removed her pronouns from her social media bios. She's the most far leftist woke warrior in the Democratic party and she's given up.

Maybe she doesn't know what her pronouns are?

HOT, her pronoun is HOT

Or at least it was. She is maybe past her prime now, but five years ago, growl

It's a complex mix of emotioins for the red-blooded rightwing male, when you are confronted by a woman whose political views you abhor, and whose intellect (you feel) is lacking, but every time you look at her you can't help thinking Oof, yes

Has any other PBer experienced this? Does any other PB-er encounter a politician they actively despise, in terms of their views, but nonetheless they find them alluring in some way?

I'm gonna have guess - and I readily confess it is just a guess - that @IanB2 finds Javier Millei's libertarian Thatcherism quite contemptible and foolish, but at the same time @IanB2 also finds Millei sexually arousing, mainly because the Argentine leader looks a bit like a labradoodle, and @IanB2 does REALLY love his dogs

Seven years old this week….