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Re: Apologising for Brexit – politicalbetting.com
One day before the Brexit referendum, there was a Populus poll showing almost the exact same percentage of people favouring Remain.
Yougov was less biased towards Remain, but still showed a Remain lead of 51% -49%.
If the polls were this wrong back then, then what guarantee do we have that they are correct now ?
56% is hardly the type of overwhelming public support that would justify a public apology or active steps by the government to rejoin.

Yougov was less biased towards Remain, but still showed a Remain lead of 51% -49%.
If the polls were this wrong back then, then what guarantee do we have that they are correct now ?
56% is hardly the type of overwhelming public support that would justify a public apology or active steps by the government to rejoin.

vik
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Re: Apologising for Brexit – politicalbetting.com
Revelation of the morning, IDS is a biker (or a motorcyclist as he put it). Will the quiet man be buying a set of noisy pipes for his ride?Born to be mild...
Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
"Jaws Of Life" my arse. Only retained firefighters who think Backdraft is a training film call them that. The sharp ones are cutters, the blunt ones are spreaders and if they have both edges they're a combi.
If there's no one trapped, they're just "Making Safe", in an ICE vehicle, that's just disconnecting the battery-impacts cause door/bonnet/boot locks to jam, so it's usually easier to just force it open. EVs are more problematic, but we have Mobile Data Terminal on pumps that give us a blow up schematic of any vehicle in the database that tells us where switches, cables and isolators are.
We don't ever touch undeployed airbags. Best just keep out of the way of those puppies.
If there's no one trapped, they're just "Making Safe", in an ICE vehicle, that's just disconnecting the battery-impacts cause door/bonnet/boot locks to jam, so it's usually easier to just force it open. EVs are more problematic, but we have Mobile Data Terminal on pumps that give us a blow up schematic of any vehicle in the database that tells us where switches, cables and isolators are.
We don't ever touch undeployed airbags. Best just keep out of the way of those puppies.
Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess?
Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/19/trump-caution-on-iran-strike-linked-to-doubts-over-bunker-buster-bomb-officials-saySurprising, but Trump is completely right for once. First use of a nuclear weapon, without an imminent threat, opens up a huge can of worms. Russia would start using tactical nukes on Ukraine. China would be pointing them at Taiwan.
Graun says US would need to drop a tactical nuke to be sure of taking out fordor and trump refuses.
Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/19/trump-caution-on-iran-strike-linked-to-doubts-over-bunker-buster-bomb-officials-sayThe irony of using a nuclear weapon to stop another country from developing nuclear weapons would tear apart the space-time continuum.
Graun says US would need to drop a tactical nuke to be sure of taking out fordor and trump refuses.
Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
Someone inserted all in there.Two weeks is the same as "90 day pause" on tariffs.Yep. It's pathetic.
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“To what extent is this two week delay the result of interventions by Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene?” Reporter
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Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
Yes. Because MAD kept the peace in Europe throughout my life. Ukraine were conned into giving up their nukes and have paid a terrible price. Nothing else has brought peace to the Middle East. MAD might.Why not?I wouldn’t.I'm disappointed in you David.I agree. FWIW TACO is the right answer here.I don't often sympathise with Donald Trump but Netanyahu obviously launched the attack on Iran against Trump's expressed wishes in the expectation America would be bounced into doing the heavy lifting. Trump is saying, wait a moment ...Trump is playing for time.TACO.
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1935753377385689389
Trump on U.S. military action against Iran: "I will make my decision whether or not to go, within the next two weeks."
How would you eliminate Fordow then?
Just do nothing and let them get nukes then?
DavidL
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Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
I don't think the people at the top of the Iranian regime who make the decisions about what to do or not do are suicide bombers who want to die -- you are mixing up some of the people on the ground with the upper leadership there I think. Iran has in the past shown some fairly calibrated attempts to retaliate in a mostly symbolic and de-escalating way that suggests to me that like most people in power the leadership quite likes being in power rather than being dead.That's insane!Yes. Because MAD kept the peace in Europe throughout my life. Ukraine were conned into giving up their nukes and have paid a terrible price. Nothing else has brought peace to the Middle East. MAD might.Why not?I wouldn’t.I'm disappointed in you David.I agree. FWIW TACO is the right answer here.I don't often sympathise with Donald Trump but Netanyahu obviously launched the attack on Iran against Trump's expressed wishes in the expectation America would be bounced into doing the heavy lifting. Trump is saying, wait a moment ...Trump is playing for time.TACO.
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1935753377385689389
Trump on U.S. military action against Iran: "I will make my decision whether or not to go, within the next two weeks."
How would you eliminate Fordow then?
Just do nothing and let them get nukes then?
MAD works when both sides want to live.
When one side are suicide bombing religious zealots who think if they die they get an afterlife with virgins, then MAD doesn't work.
pm215
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Re: Vox populi, vox Dei – politicalbetting.com
My point is that the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to improve sex education and the availability of contraceptives. Yet all too often the opponents of abortion turn out to be opponents of measures that would actually reduce the prevalence of abortion.That’s already been invented, so presumably we can ban abortion now.The condom?What possible technology could supersede the need for abortion?A goal of a civilised society should ne to allow people to have full control over their fertility. Abortion is, with current technology, a necessary part of achieving that aim.Abortion is in principle a bad thing, but isn't in practice.The goal of a civilized society should be to make abortion unnecessary.
Banning things you don't approve of leads to all manner of negative outcomes.
Many of which you may approve of even less.
It is a terrible shame that many of the opponents of abortion are also so vehmently against -say- sex education or support for single parents.
rcs1000
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