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Re: A Halloween Nightmare – politicalbetting.com
In relation to various other matters Starmer has been characterised as a stickler for the law and for process. He waits for the process/courts to come to a judgement and then implements it, in contrast to politicians with a more developed set of political antennae who would anticipate and act early, in order to avoid political damage.
This case does seem like quite a contrast with this behaviour. The Supreme Court has spoken. Action should follow, to implement the law, or to amend it if so desired.
This case does seem like quite a contrast with this behaviour. The Supreme Court has spoken. Action should follow, to implement the law, or to amend it if so desired.
Re: A Halloween Nightmare – politicalbetting.com
First class commentary on women’s right from @Cyclefree
Sandpit
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Re: A Halloween Nightmare – politicalbetting.com
The points I make apply equally to gays and lesbians, particularly the latter, because the SC judgment clarified - to the extent this ever needed clarifying - that sexual orientation is based on sex not certificates. It said clearly in paragraph 206 that the concept of sexual orientation towards members of a particular sex would be rendered meaningless otherwise.
Anyway here are my answers to the Frequently Argued (and often stupid) Points raised when this topic is discussed.
1. It is cis men who are a threat to women. Not TW.
They are one and the same: both members of the male sex.
2. No TW has ever assaulted a woman in a toilet.
Untrue. Lots of examples - here and in other countries. See Katie Dolatowski, for instance.
3. TW are not a threat to women.
Judging by the latest evidence from the MoJ a far greater proportion of TW prisoners are sexual offenders than male prisoners or female ones.
4. The SC judgment bans trans people from loos, changing rooms, sport etc.
No it doesn't. No-one is banned. They are simply asked to use the facilities for their sex or unisex ones. In sport they are required to compete in their sex category to ensure that female sport is fair.
5. Trans people have been using women's loos for ages.
This is the equivalent of saying that people have been committing murder or shoplifting for ages. It doesn't make it lawful.
6. No-one's complained.
Yeah right - a woman is going to complain to a man who is physically stronger than he and who has breached her boundaries. No - she won't. She will get the hell out of there because she knows how to risk assess even if the authorities have abandoned this concept.
7. Trans people are being denied rights.
No they aren't. They have exactly the same rights as everyone else. The right to be in a space, service or association for the opposite sex is not a human right of any kind. Demands are not rights.
8. Not everywhere has a unisex space.
Indeed not. Perhaps the last decade might have been better used to campaign for such spaces.
9. Men might not like having TW in with them.
They should learn to be inclusive and kind.
10. Men might attack TW.
Yes - male violence against violence against TW is a problem. It is not one which women are obliged to solve.
11. Everyone has a gender neutral toilet at home. What's your problem?
Good-oh: make your address public, opening hours, parking restrictions, cleaning regime etc., so anyone in the vicinity can use it.
12. Having men in women's sport is no different to having an exceptional sportsman or woman.
Someone does not understand the difference between categories separated on the basis of a relevant characteristic (age / sex / weight, for instance) and an exceptional member within that category.
Anyway here are my answers to the Frequently Argued (and often stupid) Points raised when this topic is discussed.
1. It is cis men who are a threat to women. Not TW.
They are one and the same: both members of the male sex.
2. No TW has ever assaulted a woman in a toilet.
Untrue. Lots of examples - here and in other countries. See Katie Dolatowski, for instance.
3. TW are not a threat to women.
Judging by the latest evidence from the MoJ a far greater proportion of TW prisoners are sexual offenders than male prisoners or female ones.
4. The SC judgment bans trans people from loos, changing rooms, sport etc.
No it doesn't. No-one is banned. They are simply asked to use the facilities for their sex or unisex ones. In sport they are required to compete in their sex category to ensure that female sport is fair.
5. Trans people have been using women's loos for ages.
This is the equivalent of saying that people have been committing murder or shoplifting for ages. It doesn't make it lawful.
6. No-one's complained.
Yeah right - a woman is going to complain to a man who is physically stronger than he and who has breached her boundaries. No - she won't. She will get the hell out of there because she knows how to risk assess even if the authorities have abandoned this concept.
7. Trans people are being denied rights.
No they aren't. They have exactly the same rights as everyone else. The right to be in a space, service or association for the opposite sex is not a human right of any kind. Demands are not rights.
8. Not everywhere has a unisex space.
Indeed not. Perhaps the last decade might have been better used to campaign for such spaces.
9. Men might not like having TW in with them.
They should learn to be inclusive and kind.
10. Men might attack TW.
Yes - male violence against violence against TW is a problem. It is not one which women are obliged to solve.
11. Everyone has a gender neutral toilet at home. What's your problem?
Good-oh: make your address public, opening hours, parking restrictions, cleaning regime etc., so anyone in the vicinity can use it.
12. Having men in women's sport is no different to having an exceptional sportsman or woman.
Someone does not understand the difference between categories separated on the basis of a relevant characteristic (age / sex / weight, for instance) and an exceptional member within that category.
Cyclefree
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Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
Question (with apologies if this has already been discussed)It would require an Act of Parliament that would then have to pass through every single Commonwealth Realm. It could be hijacked by republican movements or amended to, say, remove Harry from the succession as well - and then get stuck in horse-trading for years.
Why is Starmer refusing to instigate the removal of Andrew Windsor from the Succession? Does anyone really think it would be a bad idea? In purely political terms this seems like a clear win for Starmer and he would almost certainly even have the support of the King. But he apparently is resisting doing it. I find that surprising.
I can understand why the government don't want to open that particular can of worms for what is a purely theoretical problem.
Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
If you're calling your kids numbers, you just need to watch out they aren't irrational.It's overflow you have to watch out for.Why would it need to be signed? Are you going to have less than zero kids?We debated having a fixed length, but felt that would either be wasteful or -worse- we'd run out of address space and need to start over. There was also the question about whether we should use signed, or unsigned.variable bit length. That is confusingI like the entirely non-binary nature of simply naming your kids by birth order.Should we turn that benchmark upside down?Is that the benchmark - not quite the strangest name we could call our child?There are stranger things to call a child than Eleven surely?Happy Halloween everyone.Pause
Had a great time Trick or Treating with our little Eleven and Enid.
Lovely community spirit, everyone out and about was well dressed and mannered.
Now observing our traditional annual way of saying goodbye to Halloween and welcoming Christmas by watching Nightmare Before Christmas.
You have a child called "Eleven"?
We personally went binary. And obviously, taking our queue from indices, started at zero.
So, they're zero, one, one-zero, one-one, one-zero-zero and one-zero-one.
For the record, it isn't confusing at all.
And my wife wanted to add a parity bit, so that we'd be able to catch people out who got our kids names wrong.
Nigelb
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Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
Question (with apologies if this has already been discussed)Apparently the King is resisting it because it would require all the Commonwealth realms to follow suit.
Why is Starmer refusing to instigate the removal of Andrew Windsor from the Succession? Does anyone really think it would be a bad idea? In purely political terms this seems like a clear win for Starmer and he would almost certainly even have the support of the King. But he apparently is resisting doing it. I find that surprising.
There's a fear some of the realms would use the legislation to become republics.
The King is also worried about parliament in the future choosing who should succeed to the monarchy.
Starmer doesn't want to get into a row with the King, and both are working on the assumption that the eighth in line will never be King.
Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
There are stranger things to call a child than Eleven surely?Happy Halloween everyone.Pause
Had a great time Trick or Treating with our little Eleven and Enid.
Lovely community spirit, everyone out and about was well dressed and mannered.
Now observing our traditional annual way of saying goodbye to Halloween and welcoming Christmas by watching Nightmare Before Christmas.
You have a child called "Eleven"?
Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
"Seven of Nine" was quite catchy, so why not?Happy Halloween everyone.Pause
Had a great time Trick or Treating with our little Eleven and Enid.
Lovely community spirit, everyone out and about was well dressed and mannered.
Now observing our traditional annual way of saying goodbye to Halloween and welcoming Christmas by watching Nightmare Before Christmas.
You have a child called "Eleven"?
ohnotnow
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Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
Twelve for example. Most families call it a day before the twelveth.There are stranger things to call a child than Eleven surely?Happy Halloween everyone.Pause
Had a great time Trick or Treating with our little Eleven and Enid.
Lovely community spirit, everyone out and about was well dressed and mannered.
Now observing our traditional annual way of saying goodbye to Halloween and welcoming Christmas by watching Nightmare Before Christmas.
You have a child called "Eleven"?
Foxy
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Re: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for Farage – politicalbetting.com
@natashabertrand.bsky.social
New: The Pentagon cleared giving Ukraine long-range Tomahawk missiles after assessing that it would not negatively impact US stockpiles, despite Trump suggesting earlier this month that the US might not have enough to give away. Final decision largely political now.
https://bsky.app/profile/natashabertrand.bsky.social/post/3m4iy7tsxd225
New: The Pentagon cleared giving Ukraine long-range Tomahawk missiles after assessing that it would not negatively impact US stockpiles, despite Trump suggesting earlier this month that the US might not have enough to give away. Final decision largely political now.
https://bsky.app/profile/natashabertrand.bsky.social/post/3m4iy7tsxd225
Scott_xP
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