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Do they travel further/more regularly to London on average than other MPs?MonikerDiCanio said:
SNP MPs are on average the most expensive to the UK taxpayer. Why ?malcolmg said:
apart from it being further proof that neither of these parties have any scruples about pocketing money under any dubious excuse, shows how far the standards of our leaders have fallen.Slackbladder said:Tim Shipman (Mail) @ShippersUnbound 3m
BREAKING: Senior Tory sources say they are also paying back the donation to the Treasury!
So...story over..pretty much..
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2012/sep/07/full-list-mps-expenses-ipsa-data-interactive
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no malcolmg I am not happy ,although do not know the full circumstances but can see that it should be for the public purse. I was merely pointing out your partisan attitude when really all politicians of all colours are generally out for themselves0
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History suggests that they only do so when caught out , past actions would suggest that if they had not been put in the spotlight it would have been trousered.DaemonBarber said:
Or it could be as simple as both parties received the money in good faith and have since returned is (ok, passed it to the treasury) when the executor's cock-up was found out.malcolmg said:
apart from it being further proof that neither of these parties have any scruples about pocketing money under any dubious excuse, shows how far the standards of our leaders have fallen.Slackbladder said:Tim Shipman (Mail) @ShippersUnbound 3m
BREAKING: Senior Tory sources say they are also paying back the donation to the Treasury!
So...story over..pretty much..
What would be interesting to know would be when was the snafu brought to the LIB/Con's attention? Was it before or after the scoop? Were they already making plans to pay it back before the story broke? etc.
You may have a point about being shamed into it and you may not. At the moment there is insufficient evidence to say. Call me agnostic on this question.0 -
People's religion has always been an accident, for the most part, of their time and place of birth. As of right now 55% of the world's population are born into one of three monotheistic religions with the starting point of an Iraqi who lived to the ripe old age of 176 being sent various trials to test him.
It is no more or less fantastical than the Norse, Celtic, Egyptian, Greek or Roman pantheons.0 -
Mr. Palmer, if hair-splitting over donations is a bad thing will Labour be paying the tax that was avoided when they advised a donor to give shares rather than cash? Or is that an entirely different matter?0
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MD , that may be so but can you honestly say that you would equate Government to mean lets split it between Tories and LD's , it cannot be justified and at worst they just grabbed the money and asked no questions.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. G: 'whichever government is in office' is a stupid phrase. Government implies the state, is in office implies a party. The executors of the will did not complain, and they know better than most what the wishes of the individual were.
I cannot believe a cheque for close to half a million just dropped on the mat and no explanation. It has already been stated that Government departments etc were contacted.0 -
Yes, the brain doesn't shut down per se, but reduced activity could have the same effect (a radio analogy: the signal reduces to near the noise floor, so the noise is picked up and interpreted as signal).Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Jessop, point of order: the brain doesn't really power down when we sleep. It's just that we perceive it as such because the conscious is at rest. Some parts of the brain are only/most active at night (the idea more sleep = better is nonsense).
That said, the after-image of dreams is an interesting idea.
There's another line of thought that dreams are vital for us to function healthily. But that leads us into a whole new area of nutjobbery and quack science.
AIUI one of the problems is the differences between the greyware of our brains and the hardware of neural nets. Just because we are making something that behaves similarly, does not mean that it's the same.
At which point, I'm really getting out of my depth.0 -
One broader issue is how this affects the potential for taxpayer funded political parties.NickPalmer said:Good swift damage limitation by both parties. Zac summed it up well: "Zac Goldsmith, said: "This needs to be sorted out now. No one can truly believe this lady wanted her money squandered on electioneering."
With respect to Morris Dancer and others, hair-splitting over the exact wording (in Government vs in office etc.) is a seriously bad idea - it assumes that both the lady and her solicitors and executors are familiar with the minutiae of political wording, which they almost certainly are not. One has to look at the obvious intent.
If the argument is made that (rightly or wrongly) this woman's money was spent on 'electioneering', then its very difficult to make the case that taxpayers money should be as well...0 -
yes Pulpstar -it always seems to me strange when 'conventional' religion ridicules or even is aggressive towards non conventional religion saying they are potty or nuts. I don't know what people get up to in religions like scientology but too me its no more nuts that any other religion in terms of what they purport to believe.0
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SeanT has officially made it: he has been the subject of a John Rentoul QTWTAIN retweet.
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Fairly witty Tim, did it take you long to come up with that?tim said:Shapps has replaced chicken in a basket fundraising events with donor in a casket nights.
Not a bad idea if your membership is dying
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More economical with the truth Monica. Given that all of them live at the opposite end of the country to Westminster whereas all other parties have MP's in the south , any intelligent person would look at the actual spending and see that they are well down the league in spending , you will find troughers from Labour , Tory and Lib Dems feature exclusively in the top 20. Only an British Nationalist could make the data out to be a negative for the SNP.MonikerDiCanio said:
SNP MPs are on average the most expensive to the UK taxpayer. Why ?malcolmg said:
apart from it being further proof that neither of these parties have any scruples about pocketing money under any dubious excuse, shows how far the standards of our leaders have fallen.Slackbladder said:Tim Shipman (Mail) @ShippersUnbound 3m
BREAKING: Senior Tory sources say they are also paying back the donation to the Treasury!
So...story over..pretty much..
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2012/sep/07/full-list-mps-expenses-ipsa-data-interactive0 -
If I leave my estate to the National Debt it will probably add to it and cause us to go to Junk bond status0
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DB..So funny it must have taken 2 nano seconds...Still excited about Millies speech about how he is going to save the world...again..0
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Daemon, Monica is not interested in facts or truths , only her vitriolic hatred of the SNP counts and any lie to paint them as bad will be used.DaemonBarber said:
Do they travel further/more regularly to London on average than other MPs?MonikerDiCanio said:
SNP MPs are on average the most expensive to the UK taxpayer. Why ?malcolmg said:
apart from it being further proof that neither of these parties have any scruples about pocketing money under any dubious excuse, shows how far the standards of our leaders have fallen.Slackbladder said:Tim Shipman (Mail) @ShippersUnbound 3m
BREAKING: Senior Tory sources say they are also paying back the donation to the Treasury!
So...story over..pretty much..
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2012/sep/07/full-list-mps-expenses-ipsa-data-interactive0 -
It's strange that SNP MPs are more expensive than DUP and SDLP MPs.malcolmg said:
More economical with the truth Monica. Given that all of them live at the opposite end of the country to Westminster whereas all other parties have MP's in the south , any intelligent person would look at the actual spending and see that they are well down the league in spending , you will find troughers from Labour , Tory and Lib Dems feature exclusively in the top 20. Only an British Nationalist could make the data out to be a negative for the SNP.MonikerDiCanio said:
SNP MPs are on average the most expensive to the UK taxpayer. Why ?malcolmg said:
apart from it being further proof that neither of these parties have any scruples about pocketing money under any dubious excuse, shows how far the standards of our leaders have fallen.Slackbladder said:Tim Shipman (Mail) @ShippersUnbound 3m
BREAKING: Senior Tory sources say they are also paying back the donation to the Treasury!
So...story over..pretty much..
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2012/sep/07/full-list-mps-expenses-ipsa-data-interactive
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Perfect.NickPalmer said:Good swift damage limitation by both parties. Zac summed it up well: "Zac Goldsmith, said: "This needs to be sorted out now. No one can truly believe this lady wanted her money squandered on electioneering."
With respect to Morris Dancer and others, hair-splitting over the exact wording (in Government vs in office etc.) is a seriously bad idea - it assumes that both the lady and her solicitors and executors are familiar with the minutiae of political wording, which they almost certainly are not. One has to look at the obvious intent.
A bien-pensant posho and lefty Lab PPC agreeing they _really_ know what people are thinking.0 -
We are in total agreement but on this occasion it is the Tories and LD's that had their hand in the money jar. When it is Labour I will give them the same stick. We are led by pygmies and charlatans nowadays.state_go_away said:no malcolmg I am not happy ,although do not know the full circumstances but can see that it should be for the public purse. I was merely pointing out your partisan attitude when really all politicians of all colours are generally out for themselves
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RT @statisticsONS: How many people are claiming Jobseeker's Allowance in your area? See bit.ly/15uY6Gw (xls)0
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I don't recall you mentioning any qualms about the SNP receiving £ 136,000 as a bequest from the estate of Rosheen Napier last year .malcolmg said:
We are in total agreement but on this occasion it is the Tories and LD's that had their hand in the money jar. When it is Labour I will give them the same stick. We are led by pygmies and charlatans nowadays.state_go_away said:no malcolmg I am not happy ,although do not know the full circumstances but can see that it should be for the public purse. I was merely pointing out your partisan attitude when really all politicians of all colours are generally out for themselves
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great line about what you can say about religion in the 'Alpha papa Alan Partridge' film.
'Sidekick Simon' is talking about islam in a joking way and Alan keeps giving him death eyes to shut him up. When he does he says to him ' Never tell jokes about Muslims , you can tell jokes about Christians and a bit about Jews but never say anything about Muslims' Sort of sums up the confusion about different religions and what is 'in' to talk about and what is not.
Its a good film overall but is Alan getting some human empathy in his old age? He came across as quite likeable and even brave Certainly not the Alan Partridge of the Travel Tavern series . Maybe they were trying to sell the film abroad and needed a more likeable hero as the main character?0 -
@AmberElliottSky
Davis Wood Solicitors: "... and it was confirmed by Miss Edwards at the time of her instructions that her estate was to be left to..."
@AmberElliottSky
"whichever poltiical party formed the government at the date of her death."
Oops
@JohnRentoul
/ @joncraig on Sky now quoting Joan Edwards's solicitors saying they checked with her at time & confirmed she wanted bequest to go to party
@OliverCooper
So it seems Joan Edwards did intend to leave her estate to political parties. Good work, Labour - you've over-ruled a woman's dying wishes.0 -
So depressing for Mrs Edward's wishes. The Outrage Bus have invalidated her dying wishes. Hope they're all feeling really smug.
Robin Brant @robindbrant
davis wood solicitors statement says 'it was confirmed by miss edwards at the time of her instructions that her estate was to be left...
Robin Brant @robindbrant
...to whichever political party formed the government at the date of her death'.
Robin Brant @robindbrant
Edwards solicitors say they specifically checked with her about bequest and she said should go to 'whichever political party' formed govt.0 -
MG..Go and put some trews on..those ferocious midges are obviously driving you mad again..0
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Farage interview:
The party hoped to come first in next year's UK European Parliament elections while building a stronger base in local government, Farage claimed. Only if these ambitions were fully realised would Farage personally stand again for a parliamentary seat in Westminster. "For us to prosper under the first-past-the-post electoral system, you have to first build up a significant council base at the local level," he said. "I see that as being absolutely key. I am not going to comment or even think too much about it until next May."
Read more: http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/3935/britain-needs-an-australian-style-approach-to-immigration0 -
yeah, this guy works for the mail...tim said:@ScottP.
Mistaking the Mail for the Labour party is surely difficult even for you
@johnprescott
Well done everyone who shamed Tories & Lib Dems to handback #joanshalfmillion to Treasury.
Even for you, pretending Labour had no part is this is really, really stupid0 -
Whilst people continue to make idiots of themselves on here, I'd just like to say RIP to the Indian sailors and possibly others who lost their lives on the INS Sindhurakshak last night.
When they find out what happened, I hope they're open about it so lessons can be learnt by other navies.0 -
The moral of this story seems to be 'don't use that firm of solicitors to prepare your will'.Plato said:Edwards solicitors say they specifically checked with her about bequest and she said should go to 'whichever political party' formed govt.
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Labour will now make every effort to distance themselves from this squalid story.Scott_P said:
yeah, this guy works for the mail...tim said:@ScottP.
Mistaking the Mail for the Labour party is surely difficult even for you
@johnprescott
Well done everyone who shamed Tories & Lib Dems to handback #joanshalfmillion to Treasury.
Even for you, pretending Labour had no part is this is really, really stupid
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@tim
... [Osborne']s next trick is to use taxpayer subsidies to stoke up house price inflation further so he's pretty much lost the economics plot anyway.
tim
Please would you explain how the Help to Buy schemes, in your view, involve a taxpayer subsidy to the mortgagees.
In your reply, please try to quantify the amount of subsidy. You can use the example of a single mortgage guarantee or equity share if you wish.
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Surely it is for the executors to decide the interpretation.how assests are distributed? Indeed isn't that the entire function of an executor?
It does look as if the money was split in proportion to the MPs in the coalition.
Clearly neither press or the public like monies being distributed to parties rather than HMG, so it does look as if govt funding of parties is a non starter!state_go_away said:Morris Dancer , I think to quite a lot of people the government and the governing party are the same thing Many people would have the impression that if you give money to the governing party they would then use it to spend on NHS , Somali al queda, trident etc. To many politically unsophisticated people they are the same thing .
I think its clear the intention was to use the money for the public purse but do agree that a competent will writer should know better0 -
Your two faces on immigration is pathetic,just proves your more interested how labour do than your principles.tim said:Here's one for the PB Tory stats geniuses.
@jdportes: "All the new jobs went to immigrants!". In the last quarter foreign-born workers up 135K, British born workers down 15K (1/3)
Are they smart enough to work out why this figure, that they trumpeted loudly when it happened under Labour is total nonsense?
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imagine the fuss if Mrs Edwards had left 'half a Bernie' to buy immigrant sod off home vans !!0
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The likelihood is that the scheme will end up being a mortgagors'* subsidy to the taxpayer... but lets not let reality get in the way of a tim rift...AveryLP said:@tim
... [Osborne']s next trick is to use taxpayer subsidies to stoke up house price inflation further so he's pretty much lost the economics plot anyway.
tim
Please would you explain how the Help to Buy schemes, in your view, involve a taxpayer subsidy to the mortgagees.
In your reply, please try to quantify the amount of subsidy. You can use the example of a single mortgage guarantee or equity share if you wish.
* - pedant alert, the home owner is the mortgagor...0 -
What sort of qualms should one have about a life-long Scottish nationalist leaving money to the SNP?MarkSenior said:
I don't recall you mentioning any qualms about the SNP receiving £ 136,000 as a bequest from the estate of Rosheen Napier last year .0 -
Tories secret tax on homebuyersRexel56 said:
The likelihood is that the scheme will end up being a mortgagors'* subsidy to the taxpayer... but lets not let reality get in the way of a tim rift...AveryLP said:@tim
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... [Osborne']s next trick is to use taxpayer subsidies to stoke up house price inflation further so he's pretty much lost the economics plot anyway.
tim
Please would you explain how the Help to Buy schemes, in your view, involve a taxpayer subsidy to the mortgagees.
In your reply, please try to quantify the amount of subsidy. You can use the example of a single mortgage guarantee or equity share if you wish.
* - pedant alert, the home owner is the mortgagor...
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No they won't. All they will see is that wage growth went up to 2.1% and inflation came down to 2.8%. 9/10 people won't look beyond that, including journalists and media companies. Only the likes of CityAM and the FT will actually look at the detail like we do on PB.tim said:
When half the pay growth is Osbornes gift people may notice.
Particularly if he's stupid enough to go round touting the 2% plus pay increase rather than the 1.1% without his bonus gift.
With 1.1% wages growth and forecast 7% house price inflation his next trick is to use taxpayer subsidies to stoke up house price inflation further so he's pretty much lost the economics plot anyway.0 -
She had a life-long belief in militant nationalism and the use of violence in pursuit it .Theuniondivvie said:
What sort of qualms should one have about a life-long Scottish nationalist leaving money to the SNP?MarkSenior said:
I don't recall you mentioning any qualms about the SNP receiving £ 136,000 as a bequest from the estate of Rosheen Napier last year .0 -
LOLstate_go_away said:If I leave my estate to the National Debt it will probably add to it and cause us to go to Junk bond status
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BBC headline - begrudging or what?
UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million0 -
The BBC is a joke.Plato said:BBC headline - begrudging or what?
UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
Can you imagine the headline ;
Just 4,000 jobs losses.
Or
Just 4,000 dead in earthquake.
Disgraceful journalism.
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The Moral of the Story is - Don't Believe a Silly Season Outrage Bus Story in the Mail.RichardNabavi said:
The moral of this story seems to be 'don't use that firm of solicitors to prepare your will'.Plato said:Edwards solicitors say they specifically checked with her about bequest and she said should go to 'whichever political party' formed govt.
I think this whole thing is despicable. The BBC and other gleefully jumping on it - still - her £1/2m has been handed to HM Treasury which isn't what she wanted.
FFS If I had £1/2m I'd burn it first with me in my coffin then let this happen.0 -
monikerdicanio -yes , although not one to moan too much about the BBC , I think adding 'just' is a) insulting its readers a bit and b) a little partisan in this case. The word' just' does not add to the fact in this case0
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Lol, do you want the SNP to give the money to victims of militant Scottish nationalism? Okay, big fat zero on that score, let's use the money for peaceful, civic nationalism.MarkSenior said:
She had a life-long belief in militant nationalism and the use of violence in pursuit it .
Did Michael Brown have a life-long belief in fraud and money laundering, or was that a recent thing?0 -
Plato, I think she did not honestly see a difference in giving it to the governing party or the state, thinking it would go to the governing party who would then spend it on nice things like the nhs and trident etc . Just my reading of it . Not everyone is a political sophisticate. I think it has probably been sorted now according to her true wishes . It does show that will writing should improve though!!0
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Funny how you use the stat to prove what labour were saying ,everything what labour was saying on immigration a few days ago went against everything you were against,nothing from you,pathetic.tim said:
Have you noticed the PB Tory stats geniuses aren't mentioning the foreign born element they used to rage about.Tykejohnno said:
Your two faces on immigration is pathetic,just proves your more interested how labour do than your principles.tim said:Here's one for the PB Tory stats geniuses.
@jdportes: "All the new jobs went to immigrants!". In the last quarter foreign-born workers up 135K, British born workers down 15K (1/3)
Are they smart enough to work out why this figure, that they trumpeted loudly when it happened under Labour is total nonsense?
Funny that.
I'm consistent I pointed out the stupidity of using a number that includes Boris Johnson as a migrant years ago0 -
Twitter's most frenzied journalists demanding to know what role Lynton Crosby had and does he have probate clients have fallen completely silent.MonikerDiCanio said:
Labour will now make every effort to distance themselves from this squalid story.Scott_P said:
yeah, this guy works for the mail...tim said:@ScottP.
Mistaking the Mail for the Labour party is surely difficult even for you
@johnprescott
Well done everyone who shamed Tories & Lib Dems to handback #joanshalfmillion to Treasury.
Even for you, pretending Labour had no part is this is really, really stupid
The determination to create a story has been revolting - Jim Pickard and Michael Crick being two that spring to mind. Harry Cole is feeling frustrated too.
The Devil makes work for idle hands is never truer. Sky and ITV stayed well clear if my timeline is a measure.
QUICK LOOK OVER THERE EGYPT0 -
Oh dear. Mark Senior needs to lie down in a darkened room.0
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UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
What interests me is that the numbers in work are soaring, but the unemployment numbers aren;t really dropping. doesn;t seem to correlate.
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@Sun_Politics
Ed Miliband gets egged during a visit to East Street Market in London.
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Indeed. This whole story would not have existed if they had just included the word "party" in the will.RichardNabavi said:
The moral of this story seems to be 'don't use that firm of solicitors to prepare your will'.Plato said:Edwards solicitors say they specifically checked with her about bequest and she said should go to 'whichever political party' formed govt.
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taffys -people working longer and not retiring ? not so many students going to university , part time jobs etc . Working age population is increasing a fair bit I think0
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The UK's population is exploding , it's remarkable that unemployment should be dropping at all.taffys said:UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
What interests me is that the numbers in work are soaring, but the unemployment numbers aren;t really dropping. doesn;t seem to correlate.
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Rowena Mason @rowenamason
Just got caught in cross fire of ed miliband getting egged. The egg thrower dean porter says labour same as Tories and on side of rich0 -
I haven't had time to look at the breakdown but if people who were previously economically inactive are now actively seeking work then the unemployed number will stay high even if the number in work goes up.taffys said:UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
What interests me is that the numbers in work are soaring, but the unemployment numbers aren;t really dropping. doesn;t seem to correlate.
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Nobody can predict the extra stamp duty collected from increase transactions, nor the trickle down effects for surveyors, IKEA workers and removal men spending their tips down the pub.tim said:@Avery.
Nobody can predict the market nor know what the taxpayer is on the hook for.
If the scheme ends up in 7% house price inflation it'll cost the country a lot more than the various schemes Osborne is using to pump the bubble up
It's not an easy sum - like the amount a dead person saves on IHT.
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“ What a great piece of reporting by the Mail.”
No Mike – the headline story was shameful and baseless - which would have been apparent if the DM had done a basic fact check with the lawyers, acting as executors of the will.
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Is the media struggling to come up with a moniker for the two drug mule bints ?
May I suggest the "Peru Two" or "The Charlie Angels"0 -
That suggests that the unemployed but not claiming or retired are returning. But the long term unemployed/unemployable are as expected difficult to shift.taffys said:UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
What interests me is that the numbers in work are soaring, but the unemployment numbers aren;t really dropping. doesn;t seem to correlate.0 -
why would they need to ? They still have 1+million unemployed and are good at automation. They'll adjust quite happily. Only UK wazzocks can't face up to working differently.tim said:
Nothing from me?Tykejohnno said:
Funny how you use the stat to prove what labour were saying ,everything what labour was saying on immigration a few days ago went against everything you were against,nothing from you,pathetic.tim said:
Have you noticed the PB Tory stats geniuses aren't mentioning the foreign born element they used to rage about.Tykejohnno said:
Your two faces on immigration is pathetic,just proves your more interested how labour do than your principles.tim said:Here's one for the PB Tory stats geniuses.
@jdportes: "All the new jobs went to immigrants!". In the last quarter foreign-born workers up 135K, British born workers down 15K (1/3)
Are they smart enough to work out why this figure, that they trumpeted loudly when it happened under Labour is total nonsense?
Funny that.
I'm consistent I pointed out the stupidity of using a number that includes Boris Johnson as a migrant years ago
Bryant was being a Kent, as I said.
Meantime get down on your knees and thank Blair for saving Britain from this
@MidEstParallelU: Germany Fights Population Drop - trying hard to hide the emptiness , via @nytimes http://t.co/poxipFWm3D
Can they attract enough immigrants and get their birth rate up like we did and save themselves?
On your knees, give thanks.
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Which came first - the egg or the Edless chicken.Scott_P said:@Sun_Politics
Ed Miliband gets egged during a visit to East Street Market in London.
He might make the evening news now
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Once again Surby, you seem to be having difficulty interpreting figures.surbiton said:
I remember much rejoicing in PBTory land 3 weeks back comparing British growth to stagnant Europe. Germany is actually growing faster. In fact, the whole world is recovering !SouthamObserver said:OT - heartening growth figures today for Germany and France.
The news from Eurostat on EU growth in Q2 is welcome but we should be cautious when interpreting it.
The quarter on quarter figures show a reversal of the Q1's decline rather than sustained growth:
GDP rose by 0.3% in both the euro area (EA17) and the EU27 during the second quarter of 2013, compared with the previous quarter, according to flash estimates published by Eurostat, the statistical office of the European Union. In the first quarter of 2013, growth rates were -0.3% and -0.1% respectively.
The year on year figures were not so comforting:
Compared with the same quarter of the previous year, seasonally adjusted GDP fell by 0.7% in the euro area and by 0.2% in the EU27 in the second quarter of 2013, after -1.1% and -0.7% respectively in the previous quarter.
This is the reason why Germany Economics Ministry, predicted last week that Q2 growth would be 0.6% but only 0.3% growth for the whole of 2013. Well the first estimate is 0.7% for Q2 but the overall picture remains depressed.
Eurostat compare the EU figures to the US:
During the second quarter of 2013, GDP in the United States grew by 0.4% compared with the previous quarter (after +0.3% in the first quarter of 2013). Compared with the same quarter of the previous year, GDP rose by 1.4% (after +1.3% in the previous quarter).
Eurostat could also have compared the EU aggregrate figures to those of the UK, but didn't. So here are the UK figures from the ONS preliminary estimate of Q2 GDP growth:
GDP was 1.4% higher in Q2 2013 compared with the same quarter a year ago.
With quarterly growth of 0.3% and 0.6%, the UK is currently growing at just above US rates and far above the EU rates. It should be remembered also that the EU 27 figures benefit from the inclusion of the UK's growth.
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Ed will be wishing he was still lost in France today....0
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Holly Brockwell @hollybrocks
Egg Miliband should really shell out for better security or ovoid going out in public.0 -
This is the real will scandal in the UK
Prince Charles takes all the intestate money in Cornwall
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/01/prince-charles-intestate-cash-cornwall0 -
Yes only back for a day and already he's had un oeuf.Slackbladder said:Ed will be wishing he was still lost in France today....
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""That suggests that the unemployed but not claiming or retired are returning. But the long term unemployed/unemployable are as expected difficult to shift.""
You can see why some are perplexed by Carney's jobs target. The economy could be charging along and stoking up inflation and at the same time failing to shift unemployment for reasons that are nothing to do with economics.0 -
Isn't that the part of London where Martin Coxall is from?
Remember his incident with John Prescott?Plato said:Holly Brockwell @hollybrocks
Egg Miliband should really shell out for better security or ovoid going out in public.0 -
Your more of a party man than a principle man,aren't we tim.tim said:
Coalition importing voters for Labourtaffys said:UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
What interests me is that the numbers in work are soaring, but the unemployment numbers aren;t really dropping. doesn;t seem to correlate.
@jdportes: "All the new jobs went to immigrants!". In the last quarter foreign-born workers up 135K, British born workers down 15K
If this had been a rightwing pb poster or the tories going on about british born workers,you and your two faces would have been on here posting them down.
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An unkind person could say Ed arranged the egging..only way to make the headlines..0
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Harry Cole @MrHarryCole
damn. that is better. RT @JonB_89: #OmniScrambles is by far and away the best thing to come out of this egging... thanks @VMcAVSKY0 -
I find egg throwers tedious whoever the target is . Its bad manners and cowardly not to mention assault. John Prescott irritates me a lot but he was right to come back swinging wen that prat chucked one at him0
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Groan :-}TGOHF said:
Yes only back for a day and already he's had un oeuf.Slackbladder said:Ed will be wishing he was still lost in France today....
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Poor old Egg Milliband...0
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Owen Jones @OwenJones84 7s
Growing demands for Ed Miliband to throw off the yoke of capitalism
That's actually pretty funny from Owen Jones...0 -
On topic. Such things are more common than you think.
A neighbour of mine in the 1980s left his estate to the SDP...0 -
The egg chucker was a David Miliband supporter ?!!
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As I said this morning there would be no way that executors would pay money from a will to someone who was not entitled to it. No matter the Mail, OGH, and many politicians from all sides fell for it. People may think its amazing that someone would want to leave their entire fortune to a political party, but if it is that persons wish then so be it. They should not give the money to the state, this lady wanted them to have it and her wishes should be met, not those of the sniveling jealous losers who somehow thought that two political parties had managed to interfere with the executors of a will and got them to pay them money inappropriately. It simply could not happen.0
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Meanwhile Ed is Eggsploding.MonikerDiCanio said:
The UK's population is exploding , it's remarkable that unemployment should be dropping at all.taffys said:UK unemployment falls by just 4,000 to 2.51 million
What interests me is that the numbers in work are soaring, but the unemployment numbers aren;t really dropping. doesn;t seem to correlate.0 -
Not just a David Miliband supporter, but one which thinks Ed is being too right wing and 'on the side of the rich'TGOHF said:The egg chucker was a David Miliband supporter ?!!
Which are two positions I wouldn't have put together...0 -
Red Crosby - did they use it as their battle bus?0
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Perhaps with a bit of coddling he could be poached away to team Ed ?Slackbladder said:
Not just a David Miliband supporter, but one which thinks Ed is being too right wing and 'on the side of the rich'TGOHF said:The egg chucker was a David Miliband supporter ?!!
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Carl Maxim @carlmaxim
A protestor has thrown an egg at Ed Miliband. Labour spinning this well: "at least this shows that somebody knows who he is."0 -
No tim, not Bryant being a 'Kent' - it was a speech being given for and on behalf of the Labour Party. Shameful that they have parked their metaphorical Go Home bus outside a Dagenham distribution centre. But there you go - the no jobs for immigrants Party that you support.tim said:
Nothing from me?Tykejohnno said:
Funny how you use the stat to prove what labour were saying ,everything what labour was saying on immigration a few days ago went against everything you were against,nothing from you,pathetic.tim said:
Have you noticed the PB Tory stats geniuses aren't mentioning the foreign born element they used to rage about.Tykejohnno said:
Your two faces on immigration is pathetic,just proves your more interested how labour do than your principles.tim said:Here's one for the PB Tory stats geniuses.
@jdportes: "All the new jobs went to immigrants!". In the last quarter foreign-born workers up 135K, British born workers down 15K (1/3)
Are they smart enough to work out why this figure, that they trumpeted loudly when it happened under Labour is total nonsense?
Funny that.
I'm consistent I pointed out the stupidity of using a number that includes Boris Johnson as a migrant years ago
Bryant was being a Kent, as I said.
Meantime get down on your knees and thank Blair for saving Britain from this
@MidEstParallelU: Germany Fights Population Drop - trying hard to hide the emptiness , via @nytimes http://t.co/poxipFWm3D
Can they attract enough immigrants and get their birth rate up like we did and save themselves?
On your knees, give thanks.0 -
An eggsciting day in politics then.
Glad the tories and lib dems changed their minds over the money.
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I don't think Martin is talking to me after calling me lots of rude words on Twitter because I disagreed with Stephen Fry over the Winter Olympics.MikeSmithson said:Isn't that the part of London where Martin Coxall is from?
Remember his incident with John Prescott?Plato said:Holly Brockwell @hollybrocks
Egg Miliband should really shell out for better security or ovoid going out in public.0 -
plato -what would have done Edward Miliband's image a power of good was if he had done a Prescott on the thrower (assuming it was a man, if it was a woman calling her a stupid 'cow' would be ok and amount to the same thing) -To see him say ' come on then you fancy some' would have put him 15% clear in the polls imho0
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I was a trifle perplexed by that one.Slackbladder said:
Not just a David Miliband supporter, but one which thinks Ed is being too right wing and 'on the side of the rich'TGOHF said:The egg chucker was a David Miliband supporter ?!!
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what next??
Ed gets wedgied by less swotty class mates.
Ed gets head flushed down the toilet by bigger boys.
Ed returns from cross country mysteriously covered in mud.
Ed finds kecks have been thrown into the shower after PE.
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Disappointing that no one has got the word 'albumen' into a gag yet.0
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"People may think its amazing that someone would want to leave their entire fortune to a political party"currystar said:As I said this morning there would be no way that executors would pay money from a will to someone who was not entitled to it. No matter the Mail, OGH, and many politicians from all sides fell for it. People may think its amazing that someone would want to leave their entire fortune to a political party, but if it is that persons wish then so be it. They should not give the money to the state, this lady wanted them to have it and her wishes should be met, not those of the sniveling jealous losers who somehow thought that two political parties had managed to interfere with the executors of a will and got them to pay them money inappropriately. It simply could not happen.
But she didn't leave it to a specific political party. That's what is completely bizarre.
We'll probably never know what her motivation was when she wrote her will, but the probability that she decided to bet part of her estate on a game of electoral cycle roulette has to be pretty low - whatever the solicitors say.0 -
“Tomas Hirst @tomashirstmoney 3m -.@johnycassidy wins the internet today for #Omniscrambles”
Agreed – As a side note, I constantly find the quick wit of punters far more chuckle worthy than any so called stand-up comedian.
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Oh dear, oh dear..TGOHF said:Guido has a cracker of a pic of the eggsplosion
http://order-order.com/2013/08/14/live-egg-miliband/0
