If the Indy was the paper it was in 1987 it wouldn't be closing down.
Yes. Those days seem very far off now - it's remarkable how long this second-rate rag has survived really.
The Indie was always a very niche market and banged on about its pet peeves ad infinitum, in the end I suspect it succumbed to man-made global warming...!
Not originally. When it started it was an excellent newspaper, which actually lived up to its name. It then went awry under Andrew Marr (who had been a very good political journalist, but wasn't very good as editor), and it then went completely bonkers with its front-page splashes on things like Ten Marmalades To Save The Earth.
Quite happy to believe it. - I should clarify, my experience of the Indie is based on my return to the UK which was very much post Andrew Marr’s editorship. – From my own experience, their front page global warming stance was as bad and repetitive as the D’Express was on Diana.
Shame. Everyone wants content instantly on phones and tablets.
A breaking new story about the deceased Canadian tech giant Nortel:
Nortern Telecom Inc is also readying a new smart phone....
Guess the year before peeping at the link, folks. (Personally I love the apostrophe and capitalisation in 'Net. And I do wonder what became of Tim Schmidt... hopefully a better fate than the Orbiter, which never launched, or Nortel, which collapsed in 2009 after 114 years.) Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
In 1995 I visited the Nortel labs in Raleigh USA and they had ip phones working in one office. Their decline was amazing and tragic for their employees.
When I was a student, the safe answer in a job interview when asked what paper you read was to say the Independent, so as to come across as serious but without giving away your politics. One of my mates gave this answer, but then added "but if I want a bit of a laugh, I read the Sun". He didn't get offered the job.
One place where there may be an impact due to the Indy's closure is in the newspaper reviews. Whether in the evening or on things like Marr, it always featured far more prominently than was proportionate for its circulation figures (I think the fact that they got a front page out early was part of that, though editorial bias can't be discounted).
With no Independent, the reviews will inevitably tend to the right as you can't credibly fill the Indy gap with even more from the Grauniad.
I am sure the BBC will manage...also perhaps they will run some sort of psuedo Indy Front Page from the website? In all fairness, if they have a really good scoop, not one of their constant eco-bollock, they should cover it.
Absolutely.
Actually, the biggest bias in the Beeb is not left over right but 'broadsheet' over 'tabloid'. When was anything in the Sun last reported?
Probably when the Sun editors were being prosecuted?
Shame. Everyone wants content instantly on phones and tablets.
A breaking new story about the deceased Canadian tech giant Nortel:
Nortern Telecom Inc is also readying a new smart phone....
Guess the year before peeping at the link, folks. (Personally I love the apostrophe and capitalisation in 'Net. And I do wonder what became of Tim Schmidt... hopefully a better fate than the Orbiter, which never launched, or Nortel, which collapsed in 2009 after 114 years.) Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
In 1995 I visited the Nortel labs in Raleigh USA and they had ip phones working in one office. Their decline was amazing and tragic for their employees.
One place where there may be an impact due to the Indy's closure is in the newspaper reviews. Whether in the evening or on things like Marr, it always featured far more prominently than was proportionate for its circulation figures (I think the fact that they got a front page out early was part of that, though editorial bias can't be discounted).
With no Independent, the reviews will inevitably tend to the right as you can't credibly fill the Indy gap with even more from the Grauniad.
The i might get more prominence maybe?
Probably. I do wonder whether the i's viewed a bit sniffily as being cut-price?
Maybe so in fact yes you are right.
I do buy it a couple of times a week but then again I hide it in my Mirror in case my working class credentials are damaged!!!
It is amazing how CAGE always seems to come up....This guy says he is was naive and now a respectable lawyer, but there are links to CAGE...and of course Babar Ahmad is in the mix.
It doesn't matter because Thatcher had Savile over to Chequers and Jemima Goldsmith was married to Imran Khan according to the PB Sadiq massive
I don't even like him particularly. I just think it's laughable to say he's a "terrorist sympathiser" on the basis of... um... he once happened to be at the same event as a particular person, and his sister happened to marry a particular person. Oh, and because he wants more Muslims to be police officers.
I stand by that you can literally say almost ANYONE is "dodgy" if you're going to base it on such tenuous links. It's practically Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon stuff.
I am sure everybody has supported a terrorist in a personal capacity. It's what we all do these days. There is nothing tenuous about that link.
Anyone who supported the uprising in Syria (and the successful regime change in Libya) supported terrorists. Often exactly the same individuals. In the case of our politicians often material support. David Cameron has done a lot more for these people than Sadiq Khan will probably ever have the means to.
The intervention in Syria was to prevent a massacre.
When I was a student, the safe answer in a job interview when asked what paper you read was to say the Independent, so as to come across as serious but without giving away your politics. One of my mates gave this answer, but then added "but if I want a bit of a laugh, I read the Sun". He didn't get offered the job.
Wonder what the "correct" answer will be now? "I don't a paper, I use the internet to get my news from multiple sources" ?
Shame. Everyone wants content instantly on phones and tablets.
A breaking new story about the deceased Canadian tech giant Nortel:
Nortern Telecom Inc is also readying a new smart phone....
Guess the year before peeping at the link, folks. (Personally I love the apostrophe and capitalisation in 'Net. And I do wonder what became of Tim Schmidt... hopefully a better fate than the Orbiter, which never launched, or Nortel, which collapsed in 2009 after 114 years.) Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
In 1995 I visited the Nortel labs in Raleigh USA and they had ip phones working in one office. Their decline was amazing and tragic for their employees.
I worked on that tech.... I always wondered how the Chinese got hold of it.
My advice for betting on the nomination would be to make sure there is a green number next to Donald Trump on Betfair.
Thank God for Iowans and the betting market over-reaction to the Iowa caucas.
So you're fully out of dodge on Trump ?
Just about.
Well done! Sounded like you were in a large Trump-shaped hole before Iowa.
Normally I'm very disappasionate on betting and don't allow my biases to colour my judgement, however I lost my judgement when it came to Trump.
Was on course for my biggest betting loss since the 2001 Ashes.
Not sure it was a lack of judgement. A lot of people were expecting Trump's lack of judgement to cost him in the end. He did have the look of a bubble candidate initially. Precedent and character both argued strongly against him. It was only after he'd been leading the polls for three months that I started taking him seriously, which is stupid when you think about it.
My advice for betting on the nomination would be to make sure there is a green number next to Donald Trump on Betfair.
Thank God for Iowans and the betting market over-reaction to the Iowa caucas.
So you're fully out of dodge on Trump ?
Just about.
Well done! Sounded like you were in a large Trump-shaped hole before Iowa.
Normally I'm very disappasionate on betting and don't allow my biases to colour my judgement, however I lost my judgement when it came to Trump.
Was on course for my biggest betting loss since the 2001 Ashes.
Not sure it was a lack of judgement. A lot of people were expecting Trump's lack of judgement to cost him in the end. He did have the look of a bubble candidate initially. Precedent and character both argued strongly against him. It was only after he'd been leading the polls for three months that I started taking him seriously, which is stupid when you think about it.
Even when the polling was showing ahead for three months I took the Glencore strategy.
Not sure it was a lack of judgement. A lot of people were expecting Trump's lack of judgement to cost him in the end. He did have the look of a bubble candidate initially. Precedent and character both argued strongly against him. It was only after he'd been leading the polls for three months that I started taking him seriously, which is stupid when you think about it.
The precedents - such as Newt Gingrich - suggested it was right not to take him seriously and that his campaign would implode before too long.
It doesn't look that way now, but it was a reasonable view for a while.
Not sure it was a lack of judgement. A lot of people were expecting Trump's lack of judgement to cost him in the end. He did have the look of a bubble candidate initially. Precedent and character both argued strongly against him. It was only after he'd been leading the polls for three months that I started taking him seriously, which is stupid when you think about it.
The precedents - such as Newt Gingrich - suggested it was right not to take him seriously and that his campaign would implode before too long.
It doesn't look that way now, but it was a reasonable view for a while.
Trump was fortunate enough to have a whole bunch of other bubble candidates rise and fall quickly before him.
My advice for betting on the nomination would be to make sure there is a green number next to Donald Trump on Betfair.
Thank God for Iowans and the betting market over-reaction to the Iowa caucas.
So you're fully out of dodge on Trump ?
Just about.
Well done! Sounded like you were in a large Trump-shaped hole before Iowa.
Normally I'm very disappasionate on betting and don't allow my biases to colour my judgement, however I lost my judgement when it came to Trump.
Was on course for my biggest betting loss since the 2001 Ashes.
Not sure it was a lack of judgement. A lot of people were expecting Trump's lack of judgement to cost him in the end. He did have the look of a bubble candidate initially. Precedent and character both argued strongly against him. It was only after he'd been leading the polls for three months that I started taking him seriously, which is stupid when you think about it.
Indeed, a collective case of not wanting to believe the evidence in our face.
One of the most respectable political analysts here, last summer, regularly posted graphs showing Trump's trajectory as being the same as all the bubble candidates in the GOP's 2008 and 2012 nomination races. That same analyst simply stopped publishing the graphs when the data showed that Trump had broken the bubble mold, without any story to draw that conclusion - the evidence was simply not spoken about and different forms of analysis were adopted.
I started fearing Trump was not a bubble once we passed out of the silly summer season into the heart of the autumn campaign ramp up and Trump was still in the lead. Even then, I did not in my heart of hearts believe it, just feared it.
I notice that Ukip % fell in the by elections overnight, tbh I'm amazed anybody would vote Ukip in it's present form, effectively it's closed for business. Anybody connected with Ukip is only interested in the referendum, if we, against the odds, get to Leave it will fulfil the wishes of so many of us. Of course the reverse is true but anybody enjoying what they perceive as Ukip's demise is wasting their time.
What is there to debate? The government is implementing the policy that was in its manifesto.
The stupidity of these petitions.
They have their place to bring attention to things not on the government's radar, rather like an opposition day debate, but using them purely to oppose a current live policy is stupid beyond belief. If you don't like the policy then vote to change it at the election.
Not sure it was a lack of judgement. A lot of people were expecting Trump's lack of judgement to cost him in the end. He did have the look of a bubble candidate initially. Precedent and character both argued strongly against him. It was only after he'd been leading the polls for three months that I started taking him seriously, which is stupid when you think about it.
The precedents - such as Newt Gingrich - suggested it was right not to take him seriously and that his campaign would implode before too long.
It doesn't look that way now, but it was a reasonable view for a while.
Trump was fortunate enough to have a whole bunch of other bubble candidates rise and fall quickly before him.
Carson the main example I guess this year.
That's not true though. Carson bubbled long after Trump had risen to first place:
Honestly when you look at how beautiful his girlfriend is, what the feck was he thinking ?
I am sure she is [still] with him for his intellect, honesty and all round charm. Not sure his magnetic personality will be quite so attractive minus £60k a week.
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
If he were a naive 18 year old footballer then we might agree. But he's 28 and should know a lot better. Put yourself in the position of the father of the girl and say you still feel any sorrow for him?
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
A friend of a friend of mine is a tailor whose customers include the PM... he was fitting a very well known ex footballer who came up with a now legendary phrase among my group of friends, describing the weakness of well intentioned men when women are involved...
Guess the year before peeping at the link, folks. (Personally I love the apostrophe and capitalisation in 'Net. And I do wonder what became of Tim Schmidt... hopefully a better fate than the Orbiter, which never launched, or Nortel, which collapsed in 2009 after 114 years.)
Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
Don't think those consultants had their finger on the pulse at all. I was working for the research lab of a major mobile technology company about that time, and we were producing prototype smartphones (early PDAs with telephony bits grafted onto them). We also had prototypes of mobile video streaming running, so quite a lot of data was being pushed around. It was all pretty hush hush then, but key people in most of the major phone companies had seen it. NTT DoCoMo was well into the development of W-CDMA by this time, which became the basis of 3G.
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
If he were a naive 18 year old footballer then we might agree. But he's 28 and should know a lot better. Put yourself in the position of the father of the girl and say you still feel any sorrow for him?
If that were my daughter I'd feel quite angry, but it doesn't sound like she was abused (apart from the illegality of the act itself), it sounds like she was fairly forward herself, and hardly an innocent. It wouldn't put me in a blind murderous rage, like some other cases we've seen here, recently.
Besides, the opinions of the parents are strictly speaking irrelevant.
I'm not defending him, just remarking that men are weak when it comes to sex. Weak and foolish - but not necessarily evil, in all cases.
According to the CPS guidelines, the start point for him looks to be five years - as he has admitted to 'grooming' and 'penetrating'.
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
If he were a naive 18 year old footballer then we might agree. But he's 28 and should know a lot better. Put yourself in the position of the father of the girl and say you still feel any sorrow for him?
If that were my daughter I'd feel quite angry, but it doesn't sound like she was abused (apart from the illegality of the act itself), it sounds like she was fairly forward herself, and hardly an innocent. It wouldn't put me in a blind murderous rage, like some other cases we've seen here, recently.
Besides, the opinions of the parents are strictly speaking irrelevant.
I'm not defending him, just remarking that men are weak when it comes to sex. Weak and foolish - but not necessarily evil, in all cases.
I have some sympathy with your argument, without ever condoning what has happened he is clearly being made an example of. I'm not sure what the suitable punishment is
Guess the year before peeping at the link, folks. (Personally I love the apostrophe and capitalisation in 'Net. And I do wonder what became of Tim Schmidt... hopefully a better fate than the Orbiter, which never launched, or Nortel, which collapsed in 2009 after 114 years.)
Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
Don't think those consultants had their finger on the pulse at all. I was working for the research lab of a major mobile technology company about that time, and we were producing prototype smartphones (early PDAs with telephony bits grafted onto them). We also had prototypes of mobile video streaming running, so quite a lot of data was being pushed around. It was all pretty hush hush then, but key people in most of the major phone companies had seen it. NTT DoCoMo was well into the development of W-CDMA by this time, which became the basis of 3G.
The follow-up question to this is...
Were the media companies (and I include the press in this) keeping half an eye on the potential disruption this could cause them?
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
If he were a naive 18 year old footballer then we might agree. But he's 28 and should know a lot better. Put yourself in the position of the father of the girl and say you still feel any sorrow for him?
If that were my daughter I'd feel quite angry, but it doesn't sound like she was abused (apart from the illegality of the act itself), it sounds like she was fairly forward herself, and hardly an innocent. It wouldn't put me in a blind murderous rage, like some other cases we've seen here, recently.
Besides, the opinions of the parents are strictly speaking irrelevant.
I'm not defending him, just remarking that men are weak when it comes to sex. Weak and foolish - but not necessarily evil, in all cases.
15 year olds can't consent and it's not like 15/16 relationship he was nearly twice her age. If not the age of consent where do we draw a line?
Happily, it seems some Labour MPs are starting to realise that being evangelists for the EU, and implicitly saying that being an Outer is incompatible with voting for the party, is maybe not such a smart idea when up to a third of current Labour voters (and probably an even greater proportion of "Middle England" swing voters) plan to vote Out:
Happily, it seems some Labour MPs are starting to realise that being evangelists for the EU, and implicitly saying that being an Outer is incompatible with voting for the party, is maybe not such a smart idea when up to a third of current Labour voters (and probably an even greater proportion of "Middle England" swing voters) plan to vote Out:
Guess the year before peeping at the link, folks. (Personally I love the apostrophe and capitalisation in 'Net. And I do wonder what became of Tim Schmidt... hopefully a better fate than the Orbiter, which never launched, or Nortel, which collapsed in 2009 after 114 years.)
Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
Don't think those consultants had their finger on the pulse at all. I was working for the research lab of a major mobile technology company about that time, and we were producing prototype smartphones (early PDAs with telephony bits grafted onto them). We also had prototypes of mobile video streaming running, so quite a lot of data was being pushed around. It was all pretty hush hush then, but key people in most of the major phone companies had seen it. NTT DoCoMo was well into the development of W-CDMA by this time, which became the basis of 3G.
The follow-up question to this is...
Were the media companies (and I include the press in this) keeping half an eye on the potential disruption this could cause them?
I doubt it at that time. After that job I moved to a succession of consultancies for the main mobile phone operators, all of who had endless hassle from the media companies who were trying to stay rigidly to their old school content licensing model, and patently didn't understand the mobile world at all.
What they were asking for was the equivalent of a content feed like twitter not pushing tweets at you, or even hosting them for your to go and look at, but sending a request for each tweet back to the originating media company, every time someone viewed it, so they could serve you what section of the page in their own house style and according to their own rules.... can you imagine how long it would have taken build a page and how bad it would have looked!
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
If he were a naive 18 year old footballer then we might agree. But he's 28 and should know a lot better. Put yourself in the position of the father of the girl and say you still feel any sorrow for him?
If that were my daughter I'd feel quite angry, but it doesn't sound like she was abused (apart from the illegality of the act itself), it sounds like she was fairly forward herself, and hardly an innocent. It wouldn't put me in a blind murderous rage, like some other cases we've seen here, recently.
Besides, the opinions of the parents are strictly speaking irrelevant.
I'm not defending him, just remarking that men are weak when it comes to sex. Weak and foolish - but not necessarily evil, in all cases.
He isnt the first successful young man to do something silly with a besotted young fan, and surely won't be the last. See numerous sportsmen and entertainers over the last decades. He's still old enough to know is wrong though, and he doesn't have the Doug Richard defence that she said she was old enough. Probably looking at a few years, aggravated by the 'grooming' charge to which he already admitted.
"...... the Indy has developed a strongly online presence"
Really? You could have fooled me - I never see it mentioned on PB.com or referred to elsewhere, but then again I'm not a great reader of leftie journals.
Mike's certainly right about one thing though - most newspapers will cease to print hard copy over the coming years. IIRC it was SeanT who forecast that before too long we would be down to 2 or 3 national daily newspapers and perhaps one or at most two Sundays. It's a classic example of the law of diminishing returns - as circulation numbers tumble, so the cover price soars, leading to further falls in circulation etc, etc.
Mr. Owls, we had to work a 9 day week, and pay for privilege of dilating time!
Mr. Urquhart, to be fair, the ceasefire agreement appears to have been written by the wishful thinking department. It's about as impressive as Cameron's negotiating skill.
"...... the Indy has developed a strongly online presence"
Really? You could have fooled me - I never see it mentioned on PB.com or referred to elsewhere, but then again I'm not a great reader of leftie journals.
Mike's certainly right about one thing though - most newspapers will cease to print hard copy over the coming years. IIRC it was SeanT who forecast that before too long we would be down to 2 or 3 national daily newspapers and perhaps one or at most two Sundays. It's a classic example of the law of diminishing returns - as circulation numbers tumble, so the cover price soars, leading to further falls in circulation etc, etc.
There is another feedback loop. As the number of commuters buying papers fell, so newsagents started to open later or closed completely, which meant commuters could not buy papers.
Happily, it seems some Labour MPs are starting to realise that being evangelists for the EU, and implicitly saying that being an Outer is incompatible with voting for the party, is maybe not such a smart idea when up to a third of current Labour voters (and probably an even greater proportion of "Middle England" swing voters) plan to vote Out:
Would you campaign on behalf of the 30% and risk alienating the 70% who agree that we should remain in the EU? Sometimes you cant get the best possible result - you have to settle for the best result possible.
Happily, it seems some Labour MPs are starting to realise that being evangelists for the EU, and implicitly saying that being an Outer is incompatible with voting for the party, is maybe not such a smart idea when up to a third of current Labour voters (and probably an even greater proportion of "Middle England" swing voters) plan to vote Out:
Would you campaign on behalf of the 30% and risk alienating the 70% who agree that we should remain in the EU? Sometimes you cant get the best possible result - you have to settle for the best result possible.
Labour need to grow beyond their base if they want to win an election.
It's the grooming and checking age of consent stuff that kills him.
I slept with 20yrs olds when I was 15 going on 16 and looked/acted 18. They couldn't be held responsible for me deliberately misleading them. And I would be horrified if they were.
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
Feel very slightly sorry for him. Clearly he's guilty, should go down, etc, but the girl was eager, keen, and flirtatious. His career is probably finished thanks to the weakness of the flesh. There are many men who've done the same and gotten away with it - and women, too
It doesn't stand comparison with the pedo scandals we've seen elsewhere.
If he were a naive 18 year old footballer then we might agree. But he's 28 and should know a lot better. Put yourself in the position of the father of the girl and say you still feel any sorrow for him?
If that were my daughter I'd feel quite angry, but it doesn't sound like she was abused (apart from the illegality of the act itself), it sounds like she was fairly forward herself, and hardly an innocent. It wouldn't put me in a blind murderous rage, like some other cases we've seen here, recently.
Besides, the opinions of the parents are strictly speaking irrelevant.
I'm not defending him, just remarking that men are weak when it comes to sex. Weak and foolish - but not necessarily evil, in all cases.
He isnt the first successful young man to do something silly with a besotted young fan, and surely won't be the last. See numerous sportsmen and entertainers over the last decades. He's still old enough to know is wrong though, and he doesn't have the Doug Richard defence that she said she was old enough. Probably looking at a few years, aggravated by the 'grooming' charge to which he already admitted.
Happily, it seems some Labour MPs are starting to realise that being evangelists for the EU, and implicitly saying that being an Outer is incompatible with voting for the party, is maybe not such a smart idea when up to a third of current Labour voters (and probably an even greater proportion of "Middle England" swing voters) plan to vote Out:
Would you campaign on behalf of the 30% and risk alienating the 70% who agree that we should remain in the EU? Sometimes you cant get the best possible result - you have to settle for the best result possible.
There's a difference between campaigning to stay in the EU, and saying staying in the EU is one of the absolute top priorities of the party while treating anyone who has the opposite opinion with utter disdain. Labour made that mistake on the Scottish referendum, and have looked like making it again on the EU.
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[Update ] Mr Herdson, noted.
I guess my Tory Rag comment was tongue in cheek but I do believe the Editorial on 1/5/15 has probably hastened its demise.
Warning signs had been out there for a long, long time for those who were looking.
In 1995 I visited the Nortel labs in Raleigh USA and they had ip phones working in one office. Their decline was amazing and tragic for their employees.
I worked on that tech....
I do buy it a couple of times a week but then again I hide it in my Mirror in case my working class credentials are damaged!!!
Was on course for my biggest betting loss since the 2001 Ashes.
I always wondered how the Chinese got hold of it.
I've stayed away from US election betting so far, but following it on here shows how to play the game.
If the US ends up being Trump v Sanders, who should the Tories put up against Corbyn in 2020 - Peter Bone?
Excellent night for Jezza
They need to dump Corbyn and replace him with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KytKQhtD48Y
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/121152
https://twitter.com/americaelect/status/698143100531843072
In 2012 it was really profitable to lay the loon.
https://twitter.com/SIGKILL/status/695860128222842880
Edit: shit!
Edit2: not out!
It doesn't look that way now, but it was a reasonable view for a while.
Well clearly the Tories cheated to win the election, and therefore they shouldn't be allowed to implement their manifesto.
Carson the main example I guess this year.
I love visiting America.
One of the most respectable political analysts here, last summer, regularly posted graphs showing Trump's trajectory as being the same as all the bubble candidates in the GOP's 2008 and 2012 nomination races. That same analyst simply stopped publishing the graphs when the data showed that Trump had broken the bubble mold, without any story to draw that conclusion - the evidence was simply not spoken about and different forms of analysis were adopted.
I started fearing Trump was not a bubble once we passed out of the silly summer season into the heart of the autumn campaign ramp up and Trump was still in the lead. Even then, I did not in my heart of hearts believe it, just feared it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12153477/Adam-Johnson-due-in-court-for-start-of-child-sex-trial.html
I know they say footballers are thick, but...
Tories used to claim that as Electoral bias didnt they.
Now they are less guarded about gerrymandering
"I will last ten seconds though...because it will be too good...you felt very turned on."
He of course will be out of Health anyway by 2017
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary
Of course you will often find NHS sites near the top of the results.
Just need to change my lifestyle a bit and should be fine.
"The power of the pussy is immense"
Does that mean we cant go for burgers though?
Joaquin Garcia's absence was only noticed when he became eligible to collect a long-service award.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35557725
Bit racist for the BBC liking no?
http://www.channel5.com/show/inside-the-worlds-toughest-prisons
The second one where he's spending 5 days in a Polish prison is excellent. He does strip searched and solitary.
Though this teacher only got 18 months for some reason. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/female-pe-teacher-jailed-six-7271457
I'm expecting him to get a 4 year sentence.
We had to mek do we a string a conkers that we had to walk 52 miles to get b4 we ad a bat
Were the media companies (and I include the press in this) keeping half an eye on the potential disruption this could cause them?
Mr. Owls, a string of conkers? Luxury!
We had a damp, rolled-up copy of the Independent. If we were lucky!
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/02/labour-tensions-over-pro-eu-campaign-grow
No Yorkshiremen on show though
We wud ave killed for a 7 day week
What they were asking for was the equivalent of a content feed like twitter not pushing tweets at you, or even hosting them for your to go and look at, but sending a request for each tweet back to the originating media company, every time someone viewed it, so they could serve you what section of the page in their own house style and according to their own rules.... can you imagine how long it would have taken build a page and how bad it would have looked!
New NEVADA poll, conducted mostly before N.H:
Sanders 45
Hillary 45
http://freebeacon.com/politics/free-beacon-poll-clinton-and-sanders-tied-in-nevada/
The internals are even worse for Hillary:
"47 percent plurality of undecideds say that Sanders is the more trustworthy candidate. Just 10 percent say the same about Clinton."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35561845
The world ceasefire clearly means something different in Arabic.
Really? You could have fooled me - I never see it mentioned on PB.com or referred to elsewhere, but then again I'm not a great reader of leftie journals.
Mike's certainly right about one thing though - most newspapers will cease to print hard copy over the coming years. IIRC it was SeanT who forecast that before too long we would be down to 2 or 3 national daily newspapers and perhaps one or at most two Sundays.
It's a classic example of the law of diminishing returns - as circulation numbers tumble, so the cover price soars, leading to further falls in circulation etc, etc.
Mr. Urquhart, to be fair, the ceasefire agreement appears to have been written by the wishful thinking department. It's about as impressive as Cameron's negotiating skill.
Now Sanders 45
Hillary 45
Massive lead for Hilary just disappeared into thin air.
Nevada before South Carolina for the Democrats.
I slept with 20yrs olds when I was 15 going on 16 and looked/acted 18. They couldn't be held responsible for me deliberately misleading them. And I would be horrified if they were.
Being 28 was too far out for me - that was OLD.
Anyway, good to see that some in Labour are realising that been Brussels bag-carriers isn't universally popular with our voters.