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Kinson South (Two Conservative defences) on Bournemouth
Result of council at last election (2015): Conservatives 49, Independent 1, United Kingdom Indepdence Party 1 (Conservative majority of 48)
Result of ward at last election (2015):
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Cheers; get well soon.0
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They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?0 -
Thanks Harry. Hope you feel better soon.0
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As many times as Labour's chaos allows them to get away with it ...Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?0 -
FPT: (I normally don't bother, but I'd looked up numbers and everything)
The NHS has been in crisis for at least forty of my fifty five years. The nature of the crisis varies, but it's always in a crisis.
NHS employees seem to have trouble understanding that a public service that has literally infinite demand is always going to be in crisis, irrespective of funding levels (which this year amounts to £116 billion, rising to £133 billion in 2020). We're spending about 15.5% of our entire budget on health.
PS Get well soon Harry!0 -
Bollocks. This govt has had plenty of time to make up its mind. It just kicks the can beyond the next electoral horizon. Pathetic really.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
I suppose blaming Labour is the next logical step in not taking responsibility.
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Embarrassingly seeing this thread has reminded me that I need to vote in one of these contests - had completely forgotten up until now.0
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Yep, we can argue about Labour but Cameron's been in power for the thick end of six years.Jonathan said:
Bollocks. This govt has had plenty of time to make up its mind. It just kicks the can beyond the next electoral horizon. Pathetic really.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
I suppose blaming Labour is the next logical step in not taking responsibility.0 -
I don't think it is just Labour. This government are just as useless. They should have just bloody gone for it in 2012 and got building before the election. If it meant 2 or three more seats for Labour then so be it.Jonathan said:
Bollocks. This govt has had plenty of time to make up its mind. It just kicks the can beyond the next electoral horizon. Pathetic really.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
I suppose blaming Labour is the next logical step in not taking responsibility.0 -
And blame them for the disaster that would have followed.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
Expanding Heathrow even further is an economic, transport, and political disaster.
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Well quite, if Tories are still blaming labour for anything they're scraping the barrel.John_M said:
Yep, we can argue about Labour but Cameron's been in power for the thick end of six years.Jonathan said:
Bollocks. This govt has had plenty of time to make up its mind. It just kicks the can beyond the next electoral horizon. Pathetic really.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
I suppose blaming Labour is the next logical step in not taking responsibility.
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Political yes, but it would be an economic and transport success. It gives us capacity where we need it to open up routes to provincial Chinese cities, new direct routes to India, new direct routes to SE-Asia and new routes to Latin America. Gatwick won't deliver even a quarter of these new routes.Speedy said:
And blame them for the disaster that would have followed.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
Expanding Heathrow even further is an economic, transport, and political disaster.0 -
Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.0 -
I see tonight many interesting local council by-elections.
Kinson South, Coal Aston, Market Harborough and Blantyre will be nice to see.0 -
Whatever your view on the correct decision about airport expansion the whole sorry saga has to be a good argument against excessive government power/ planned economies etc.0
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The congregation won't take any notice of sense.John_M said:FPT: (I normally don't bother, but I'd looked up numbers and everything)
The NHS has been in crisis for at least forty of my fifty five years. The nature of the crisis varies, but it's always in a crisis.
NHS employees seem to have trouble understanding that a public service that has literally infinite demand is always going to be in crisis, irrespective of funding levels (which this year amounts to £116 billion, rising to £133 billion in 2020). We're spending about 15.5% of our entire budget on health.
PS Get well soon Harry!
They are adamant it is the envy of the world.
I believe the phrase is ROFLMAO.0 -
Does Cameron want to encourage airlines to land in the UK or would he prefer long haul flights to go to Paris or Amsterdam?
What is the delay blamed on trying to conform to the Paris 2015 conference on climate change, trying to blame motorists driving VW diesel cars on the M25. Or is it just that Cameron wants to pretend that Goldsmith still has a chance of winning an election as Mayor of London? There comes a point when the infrastructure failings can't be shifted onto Labour's shoulders.
We are the builders, but only if when the electoral cycle allows.0 -
What capacity?MaxPB said:
Political yes, but it would be an economic and transport success. It gives us capacity where we need it to open up routes to provincial Chinese cities, new direct routes to India, new direct routes to SE-Asia and new routes to Latin America. Gatwick won't deliver even a quarter of these new routes.Speedy said:
And blame them for the disaster that would have followed.MaxPB said:
Labour have a lot to answer for as well, they had a massive majority and should have just rammed it through in 2003.Jonathan said:They say that to govern is to choose.
How many times can this administration flunk the airport decision?
Expanding Heathrow even further is an economic, transport, and political disaster.
Heathrow is already bloated beyond workability, and the biggest problem with air travel is getting on and off the plane, getting on the plane often takes hours. Heathrow is a monument as to why you should never concentrate all transport in one single point, it leads to a huge mess with everyone being displeased and late.
Just imagine the numbers of people already trying to get to Heathrow and pass through the terminals to get to their flight, with an expansion the already big transport problem is going to get even bigger, it will need bigger motorways, bigger car parks, even bigger terminals, in the end most of west London and it's suburbs will need to be demolished to make way for Heathrow.
Imagine if the whole of the country was serviced by a single airport? It would be a disaster.
It reminds me of a communist joke about making giant products.0 -
JJ, FPT
"Did I? I can't remember.
I'm surprised I wasn't in favour of seeing Borehamwood demolished.
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Yes, you did.
It was a few years ago to be fair (late 2012 iirc).
The flattening of Borehamwood was all part of my cunning plan.
To summarize.
It was to place the new airport to the south of the M25 and between the M1 and A1.
Rail spurs off to the fast lines to Kings X at Potters Bar and Euston at Watford.0 -
Dave said no to Heathrow to win seats in London and for Green vote. Didn't work. Then in power, George said change position. Nick was against. Now Dave is cornered by Boris and Zac.
He should ignore commission and say yes to Gatwick, without public funding. Then say Heathrow can follow but not until air quality in London obeys law. Heathrow is a monopoly and we Tories don't do monopolies.0 -
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Generally safe-looking except for the Lanark seat (where the wide differentials suggest personal votes in play - presumably an SNP gain on the cards) and the Logan Harborough duel, where the LibDems could hope for tactical Labour help.
While OGH frolics with his honeytrap at the Russian Embassy, I'm just back from Sleeping Beauty at the Michaelovsky Theatre in St Petersburg. Ballet isn't really my scene but it was fun to experience it in context. The house was entirely sold out, seemingly with ordinary Russians mostly dressed as though they'd come from work for a pleasant evening out. On to Moscow tomorrow. (I'm here for some animal welfare meetings but taking the opportunity to do a bit of cultural stuff.)
Russia is quite remarkably cheap at the moment, suggesting an abnormally depressed currency - my hotel (Ibis - pleasant, modern and fairly central) is £23/night, the taxi from the airport was £8 for a 45 minute drive, a good two-course lunch was £3. Presumably this is a side-effect of the collapse of the oil price.0 -
Ah. I think I've got maps somewhere where I placed the footprint of a three-runway airport over various localities people recommended. I honestly I can't remember that one.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:JJ, FPT
"Did I? I can't remember.
I'm surprised I wasn't in favour of seeing Borehamwood demolished."
Yes, you did.
It was a few years ago to be fair (late 2012 iirc).
The flattening of Borehamwood was all part of my cunning plan.
To summarize.
It was to place the new airport to the south of the M25 and between the M1 and A1.
Rail spurs off to the fast lines to Kings X at Potters Bar and Euston at Watford.0 -
Hah I was being... semi factetious.John_M said:
How many people are visiting their GP with cold or flu at this time of year though ?!0 -
The real value of the Rubble when accounting for inflation should be at around 150 to the dollar, not 70 it is now. Though less overvalued than in 2013, when it was 25, it's still about 50% overvalued, so it has a long way to fall.NickPalmer said:Generally safe-looking except for the Lanark seat (where the wide differentials suggest personal votes in play - presumably an SNP gain on the cards) and the Logan Harborough duel, where the LibDems could hope for tactical Labour help.
While OGH frolics with his honeytrap at the Russian Embassy, I'm just back from Sleeping Beauty at the Michaelovsky Theatre in St Petersburg. Ballet isn't really my scene but it was fun to experience it in context. The house was entirely sold out, seemingly with ordinary Russians mostly dressed as though they'd come from work for a pleasant evening out. On to Moscow tomorrow. (I'm here for some animal welfare meetings but taking the opportunity to do a bit of cultural stuff.)
Russia is quite remarkably cheap at the moment, suggesting an abnormally depressed currency - my hotel (Ibis - pleasant, modern and fairly central) is £23/night, the taxi from the airport was £8 for a 45 minute drive, a good two-course lunch was £3. Presumably this is a side-effect of the collapse of the oil price.0 -
Really? It's undervalued as far as touristy things go - it's nuts that it's cheaper to stay in a modern hotel in St P than a B&B in Skegness or a three-star hotel in a provincial city in China, or that a good restaurant lunch should cost less than a microwave curry from Sainsbury.Speedy said:
The real value of the Rubble when accounting for inflation should be at around 150 to the dollar, not 70 it is now. Though less overvalued than in 2013, when it was 25, it's still about 50% overvalued, so it has a long way to fall.
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Gatwick is in the wrong place. You need a flight from London to get there.0
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Has nobody noticed Socrates's return? It's on the previous thread at 8:28 with a very meaty contribution on the US election.
Welcome back Socrates!0 -
Indeed, I've always said Gatwick's the one-legged black lesbian Muslim single-mother of airports.Pulpstar said:
On the radio today I heard Gatwick "ticked all the boxes".Jonathan said:Gatwick is in the wrong place. You need a flight from London to get there.
Difficult to work out the "correct" choice, everyone has a dog in the game.0 -
Just back from voting, and have a question. There were several tellers in the polling station (significantly outnumbering voters!) including from a party who weren't close last time. They asked for my polling card number, but given that (AFAIK) there has been no canvassing, what are they going to do with that information?0
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If they know that you voted at a council by-election then they can be pretty sure that you will vote at any other election thereby making you worthwhile to canvas in the future.Gasman said:Just back from voting, and have a question. There were several tellers in the polling station (significantly outnumbering voters!) including from a party who weren't close last time. They asked for my polling card number, but given that (AFAIK) there has been no canvassing, what are they going to do with that information?
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You seem to be missing the most important of the evening. UKIP defending Huntingdon East, a ward that had a UKipper, a Tory and a Lib Dem.0
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Harry has inadvertently missed out the most interesting by election of today .
Huntingdonshire DC Huntingdon East ward
UKIP defence ( resigned before his disqualification for non attendance )
Ward won by Conservatives in 2011 and in May this year
won by Lib Dems in 2012
won by UKIP in 2014
2011 Con 1424 LD 989 Lab 492
2012 LD 823 Con 789 UKIP 336 Lab 282
2014 UKIP 882 LD 848 Con 702 Lab 282
2015 Con 1595 LD 1264 UKIP 1065 Lab 566 TUSC 520 -
I notice BBC doing a very good job of burying Corbyn's letter. You have to read the page very carefully and pretty much all the way to the end up find that Corbyn is happy to support Granny robbers...and no mention of the terrorist connection of course.0
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A low bar he's setting for himself I see.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.0 -
Ian Brady ....Well I wasn't as bad as Harold Shipman...kle4 said:
A low bar he's setting for himself I see.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.0 -
He probably wishes he'd run for Mayor now lolkle4 said:
A low bar he's setting for himself I see.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.0 -
Not this nonsense. When you see a bowl of free tasters at a supermarket how many do you take?John_M said:
And on the funding point, we spend a lower % of GDP on health than many similar countries.
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Yep, the shine has been taken relentlessly off Coe for the last few weeks. Can't quite work out if he's part of the problem or just constantly behind the curve.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.0 -
Thing is, he has played it so badly.Theuniondivvie said:
Yep, the shine has been taken relentlessly off Coe for the last few weeks. Can't quite work out if he's part of the problem or just constantly behind the curve.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.
He has been grumpy, accusing, defensive, sulky.
Even if everything he says is as it has been, he has proven himself inadequate for the role. A real case of when the tide goes out...0 -
Heh, nonsense yourself. Really? Food samples in a supermarket is your analogy for a modern health system? Every delivery system in the NHS is rationed, if you don't believe that, you're not worth debating.Freggles said:
Not this nonsense. When you see a bowl of free tasters at a supermarket how many do you take?John_M said:
And on the funding point, we spend a lower % of GDP on health than many similar countries.0 -
Influenza vaccine - being not being a live vaccine - can not cause a cold but if you feel that you had an adverse reaction then the Yellow Card site is here https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/yellowcards/reportmediator/
Hope you're feeling better now.0 -
The new Polling Matters podcast is up - can Trump really win?
http://kpedley.podbean.com/e/polling-matters-ep-36-can-trump-really-win-w-ariel-edwards-levy/0 -
Kings Cross to Gatwick South Terminal - Victoria Line and Gatwick Express 42 minutes (including the walk)Jonathan said:Gatwick is in the wrong place. You need a flight from London to get there.
Kings Cross to Heathrow Terminal 2 - Piccadilly Line 68 minutes (including the walk).
And, to declare an interest, my least favourite sister-in-law lives in Horley.
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About 5 pieces normally.Freggles said:0 -
Al-Beeb is in full blown NHS Crisis, benefit sanctions, mode at the moment.FrancisUrquhart said:I notice BBC doing a very good job of burying Corbyn's letter. You have to read the page very carefully and pretty much all the way to the end up find that Corbyn is happy to support Granny robbers...and no mention of the terrorist connection of course.
If the Tories achieve just one thing between now and 2020 it should be the gross diminution of the televisual arm of the Guardian.0 -
Why do you count the Gatwick Express but not the Heathrow Express?Blofelds_Cat said:
Kings Cross to Gatwick South Terminal - Victoria Line and Gatwick Express 42 minutes (including the walk)Jonathan said:Gatwick is in the wrong place. You need a flight from London to get there.
Kings Cross to Heathrow Terminal 2 - Piccadilly Line 68 minutes (including the walk).
And, to declare an interest, my least favourite sister-in-law lives in Horley.
Edit: 42 minutes sounds very optimistic too. GEX alone is 30.0 -
Caroline Flint on Question Time...my favourite "Blairite"0
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The big question in Blantyre is can the LIberals get more than 10. Not 10%, 10 votes.0
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You forget the Tory Bullying Scandal. They are doing the classic, new article every day. Speaking of which...chestnut said:
Al-Beeb is in full blown NHS Crisis, benefit sanctions, mode at the moment.FrancisUrquhart said:I notice BBC doing a very good job of burying Corbyn's letter. You have to read the page very carefully and pretty much all the way to the end up find that Corbyn is happy to support Granny robbers...and no mention of the terrorist connection of course.
If the Tories achieve just one thing between now and 2020 it should be the gross diminution of the televisual arm of the Guardian.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-350671260 -
It would be impressive, since the Liberals don't have a candidate...Dair said:The big question in Blantyre is can the LIberals get more than 10. Not 10%, 10 votes.
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Are they as bad as Blatter? Just as a matter of interest. This is the IAAF isnt it? And the issue is drug testing.kle4 said:
A low bar he's setting for himself I see.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.
For myself I have no time for Olympics or World Cups. The graft is there for all to see and has been for years and Athletics which is the major part of Olympics is just a contest between chemists these days.
Why pay it any attention?
The reason is money and a ready supply of that comes from the TV companies who hype the banal to ludicrous heights.
And even cricket which is riddled with betting scams is becoming pointless as 'proper' cricket is taken over by 50 and 20 over games.
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Market Logan (Harborough) vote result:
LDEM: 402
CON: 303
LAB: 82
GRN: 56
UKIP: 470 -
Lib Dem hold Harborough
LD 402 Con303 Lab 82 Green 56 UKIP 47
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FPT I think that what Tyson meant to say was that he finds something very attractive about ideological right wing women, who are, in all likelihood, strict disciplinarians.0
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But I thought CCHQ could not find any record of complaints being made about Mark Clarke...FrancisUrquhart said:
You forget the Tory Bullying Scandal. They are doing the classic, new article every day. Speaking of which...chestnut said:
Al-Beeb is in full blown NHS Crisis, benefit sanctions, mode at the moment.FrancisUrquhart said:I notice BBC doing a very good job of burying Corbyn's letter. You have to read the page very carefully and pretty much all the way to the end up find that Corbyn is happy to support Granny robbers...and no mention of the terrorist connection of course.
If the Tories achieve just one thing between now and 2020 it should be the gross diminution of the televisual arm of the Guardian.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35067126A CCHQ spokesperson on Thursday night confirmed that Mr Jackson had made a complaint, and said all historic complaints against Mr Clarke were properly dealt with.
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In terms of drugs, I suspect that Swimming is a huge can of worms waiting to be pried open.flightpath01 said:
Are they as bad as Blatter? Just as a matter of interest. This is the IAAF isnt it? And the issue is drug testing.kle4 said:
A low bar he's setting for himself I see.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.
For myself I have no time for Olympics or World Cups. The graft is there for all to see and has been for years and Athletics which is the major part of Olympics is just a contest between chemists these days.
Why pay it any attention?
The reason is money and a ready supply of that comes from the TV companies who hype the banal to ludicrous heights.
And even cricket which is riddled with betting scams is becoming pointless as 'proper' cricket is taken over by 50 and 20 over games.
There is absolutely nothing believable about the physiques of top level swimmers.0 -
Why go from King's Cross when St Pancras is next door?! Direct trains to GatwickBlofelds_Cat said:
Kings Cross to Gatwick South Terminal - Victoria Line and Gatwick Express 42 minutes (including the walk)Jonathan said:Gatwick is in the wrong place. You need a flight from London to get there.
Kings Cross to Heathrow Terminal 2 - Piccadilly Line 68 minutes (including the walk).
And, to declare an interest, my least favourite sister-in-law lives in Horley.0 -
People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/6741379154511421440 -
I agree about monopolies. I would also build another runway at Gatwick. But Heathrow is not a monopoly. It is a place. Its a convenient place for some. The supply of that convenient place is limited, but willingly so by Heathrow itself.Dixie said:Dave said no to Heathrow to win seats in London and for Green vote. Didn't work. Then in power, George said change position. Nick was against. Now Dave is cornered by Boris and Zac.
He should ignore commission and say yes to Gatwick, without public funding. Then say Heathrow can follow but not until air quality in London obeys law. Heathrow is a monopoly and we Tories don't do monopolies.
The main reason I would delay a decision is that Heathrow, although convenient for some now, has not evolved into in a suitable place for the future. Just how to move on from this position is quite an intractable one and would repay a second look.0 -
And it's been a helluva blawy DecemberDair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/6741379154511421440 -
I'll stop hating them the day the taxpayer and user stop subsidising them. Until that point they are an extremely poor investment and I, for one, don't believe that day will ever arrive.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/6741379154511421440 -
From what I see we are spending 134 billion now and 138 billion next year. I think this is about 9% of our spending.John_M said:FPT: (I normally don't bother, but I'd looked up numbers and everything)
The NHS has been in crisis for at least forty of my fifty five years. The nature of the crisis varies, but it's always in a crisis.
NHS employees seem to have trouble understanding that a public service that has literally infinite demand is always going to be in crisis, irrespective of funding levels (which this year amounts to £116 billion, rising to £133 billion in 2020). We're spending about 15.5% of our entire budget on health.
PS Get well soon Harry!0 -
Malcolm could beat that on his ownDair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/6741379154511421440 -
Every single piece of electricity generation infrastructure which exists in the United Kingdom has been built at taxpayers expense. No exceptions.DavidL said:
I'll stop hating them the day the taxpayer and user stop subsidising them. Until that point they are an extremely poor investment and I, for one, don't believe that day will ever arrive.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
twitter.com/LangBanks/status/674137915451142144
WIndmills have a marginal cost of nearly zero. Meanwhile the Westminster morons are building a new Nuclear Plant. It will be subsidised by your bills. Just not separately - it will be subsidised by increasing your unit cost. Massively.
Windmills are simply a no brainer. Whether ACC is real or not, the economics are simply better for windmills, the long term unit cost massively better.0 -
Con hold Coal Ashton NE Derbyshire
Con 606 Lab 3040 -
Con hold Fylde Clifton
Con 576 UKIP 128 Ind 122 Lab 84 LD 530 -
Huntingdon East is a LD gain from UKIP
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And it has fecked tourism to Scotland in the process. They have killed the scenery.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/6741379154511421440 -
LD 884 Con 596 UKIP 293 Lab 141MarkSenior said:Huntingdon East is a LD gain from UKIP
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Windfarms look gorgeous, any great piece of engineering usually has great aesthetic qualities. Tourism continues to grow in Scotland and windfarms don't have much of a footprint despite all that free power.MarqueeMark said:
And it has fecked tourism to Scotland in the process. They have killed the scenery.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/674137915451142144
The largest farm at Whitelee is built on an uninspiring, bleak moorland already crossed by a major motorway. It is not a place tourists used to go - although I understand it now gets some tourism. To see the big windmills.0 -
I quite like wind turbines. Certainly less ominous than nuclear reactors.0
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Could someone clarify how long Caroline Flint has been in the Labour Party?0
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Shock in South Lanarks Labour hold Blantyre SNP Teflon fades0
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They are an economic calamity for Scotland, an incredible waste of scarce resources in search of an unsustainable level of subsidy. When the subsidy is stopped most of these windmills will stop turning as the maintenance and grid connection charges are prohibitive.Dair said:
Every single piece of electricity generation infrastructure which exists in the United Kingdom has been built at taxpayers expense. No exceptions.DavidL said:
I'll stop hating them the day the taxpayer and user stop subsidising them. Until that point they are an extremely poor investment and I, for one, don't believe that day will ever arrive.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
twitter.com/LangBanks/status/674137915451142144
WIndmills have a marginal cost of nearly zero. Meanwhile the Westminster morons are building a new Nuclear Plant. It will be subsidised by your bills. Just not separately - it will be subsidised by increasing your unit cost. Massively.
Windmills are simply a no brainer. Whether ACC is real or not, the economics are simply better for windmills, the long term unit cost massively better.0 -
Sleazy Nats on the slide? Labour HOLD Blantyre (South Lanarkshire).
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For an educated man, you do cling to some ridiculous ideas but surely this is the absolute peak. Again, the marginal cost of windmills is close to zero. The cost of maintenance is very low per MW/h and the artificial interconnect charges are not a genuine part of the picture.DavidL said:
They are an economic calamity for Scotland, an incredible waste of scarce resources in search of an unsustainable level of subsidy. When the subsidy is stopped most of these windmills will stop turning as the maintenance and grid connection charges are prohibitive.Dair said:
Every single piece of electricity generation infrastructure which exists in the United Kingdom has been built at taxpayers expense. No exceptions.DavidL said:
I'll stop hating them the day the taxpayer and user stop subsidising them. Until that point they are an extremely poor investment and I, for one, don't believe that day will ever arrive.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
twitter.com/LangBanks/status/674137915451142144
WIndmills have a marginal cost of nearly zero. Meanwhile the Westminster morons are building a new Nuclear Plant. It will be subsidised by your bills. Just not separately - it will be subsidised by increasing your unit cost. Massively.
Windmills are simply a no brainer. Whether ACC is real or not, the economics are simply better for windmills, the long term unit cost massively better.0 -
Nice to see @Socrates back.0
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Looks like Loylists have stirred up a hornets nest. By spending the last 18 months stirring up a nonsense claim about NHS Scotland based on lies about waiting times, they have probably cemented this into the Key measure for NHS performance in the minds of the public.
https://twitter.com/FreeThinker2040/status/6750971208363622400 -
Like Harborough: dirty sleazy kippers on the slide!MarkSenior said:Huntingdon East is a LD gain from UKIP
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"You see, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve!"Theuniondivvie said:
Yep, the shine has been taken relentlessly off Coe for the last few weeks. Can't quite work out if he's part of the problem or just constantly behind the curve.Pulpstar said:Lord Coe plays the "Not as bad as Blatter" card
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35060510
FFsake.0 -
Honestly? I don't care about the scenery. The earth is a shopfloor to be put to work, not a garden to be viewed.MarqueeMark said:
And it has fecked tourism to Scotland in the process. They have killed the scenery.Dair said:People really need to stop hating on windmills.
https://twitter.com/LangBanks/status/6741379154511421440 -
What a hoot. 8% swing Labour to SNP. UKIP face the embarrassment of finishing behind the Liberals. Both UKIP and Liberals face the humiliation of finishing behind the SSP.
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On airports. Heathrow is such a pain that I prefer to fly from Bham or Manchester. Bham has 4 klm flights a day to Schipol that connect well to longhaul destinations. Excellent connections to the East with Turkish airlines or Emirates too.
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This QT panel has actually been pretty good. I thought Flint, Letts, and Beard were all very good in particular. Interesting answers from the panel on the Tyson Fury incident - will no doubt go down badly on PB as they all seem to not be enamored with Fury as a personality....
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Do you think Miss SNP bad Eleanor Bradford will be rushing to the Good Morning Scotland studioDair said:Looks like Loylists have stirred up a hornets nest. By spending the last 18 months stirring up a nonsense claim about NHS Scotland based on lies about waiting times, they have probably cemented this into the Key measure for NHS performance in the minds of the public.
https://twitter.com/FreeThinker2040/status/675097120836362240
tomorrow to deliver the figures?
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BBC Scotland will not report it on TV.Eh_ehm_a_eh said:
Do you think Miss SNP bad Eleanor Bradford will be rushing to the Good Morning Scotland studioDair said:Looks like Loylists have stirred up a hornets nest. By spending the last 18 months stirring up a nonsense claim about NHS Scotland based on lies about waiting times, they have probably cemented this into the Key measure for NHS performance in the minds of the public.
https://twitter.com/FreeThinker2040/status/675097120836362240
tomorrow to deliver the figures?
They will report "SNP Health Service misses targets on waiting lists". They won't compare to rest of the UK. They might mention comparison to last year.0 -
Portillo compares Trump's rise to the rise of Hitler...0
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Clearly it's lefties like Michael Portillo that are reason people like Trump have come about in the first place!Danny565 said:Portillo compares Trump's rise to the rise of Hitler...
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Socrates is back? Dude!Tykejohnno said:Nice to see @Socrates back.
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Jess Phillips is good tv, the scottish MP is a pain in the arse0
