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I prefer Steven Seagal in out for justice: he's a chickenshitmotherfuckingpussyasshole.DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
Well saidCasino_Royale said:
I suspect that almost any attack on Khan by Zac will be labelled as "coded racist".TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It's this sort of nastiness - straight out of the Lutfur Rahman playbook - that makes him totally unsuitable to be Mayor of London, and a sign of things to come if he wins.
How bad will it be to have a Muslim mayor of a segregated City, with a severe Islamic terror threat, that wants ethnic quotas and accuses anyone who disagrees with him of racism
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Imploring 'twitter' to like you because you're slagging off a right-wing bogeyman is not wit, it's utterly cringeworthy.DavidL said:
Second place actually, they are fighting for second place and having a leader with wit is one of the main reasons.felix said:
You have to wonder why a person leading a party fighting for 3rd place in Scotland thinks it's useful to spend time on twitter hurling personal abuse at a potential presdient. Does she really think this will win over the SNP vote to the blue surge.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
Trump is a crass idiot and basically running to promote himself and his name.
However I think all the hysterics should remember what Obama pledged in a grand gesture. 'close Guantanamo prison within 12 months'.0 -
I suspect that almost any attack on Khan by Zac will be labelled as "coded racist".
Remember - a racist incident is 'any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person'0 -
SNP muslim muppet MP calling for Trump to be banned entry to UK as a "hate preacher"....
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It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
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Trust you to miss the point.Luckyguy1983 said:
Imploring 'twitter' to like you because you're slagging off a right-wing bogeyman is not wit, it's utterly cringeworthy.DavidL said:
Second place actually, they are fighting for second place and having a leader with wit is one of the main reasons.felix said:
You have to wonder why a person leading a party fighting for 3rd place in Scotland thinks it's useful to spend time on twitter hurling personal abuse at a potential presdient. Does she really think this will win over the SNP vote to the blue surge.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
But according to Jo Brand it can't be racist if directed at a white person...runnymede said:I suspect that almost any attack on Khan by Zac will be labelled as "coded racist".
Remember - a racist incident is 'any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person'0 -
Trump is a candidate to be POTUS. His views aren't mine but he has every right to articulate them. Or is democracy only for those with the correct views?
Disagreement is fine, but the bile from the shouty people will be more than that. It will be saying that our views are totally correct, because we are special and we know better than the plebs.
Seventeen-year-olds specialise in this.
I think Jezza is a nutter but if he's elected PM, so be it. I will be in the minority but the people will have spoken.0 -
@BigRich IIRC @AndreaParma_82 noted Notts, Derbys and Bedfords as vulnerable for Labour.0
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A comment from there, indicating why Trump is doing so well.Richard_Nabavi said:
Canyon Denizen
Imagine if King George lll had created a "no sail" list and placed Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington on it.
Then, what if the British decreed that if you couldn't sail, then you couldn't own a musket, either.
We'd all be eating eel pie, washed down with warm ale and watching 179 cable channels of Masterpiece Theater.
America's political elites aren't concerned with gun violence. Indeed, the U.S. now celebrates its lowest homicide rate since 1965.
But, with the U.S. nearly $20tr in debt, and with regional/political divides ruling the day (less North vs South than non-coastal west vs east. Wyoming, Montana, Utah, Idaho, Nebraska and the Dakotas are further to the "right" than Dixie) there's no telling when the largely homogeneous Mountain West and Great Plains could secede. My guess? A debt collapse involving Treasury securities is the future impetus.
If Scotland can leave the U.K. (younger Scots favor independence, future referendums will be dicey) if France could possibly leave the E.U., if Quebec could nearly leave Canada, then ANYTHING is possible.0 -
off topic-had to have a little ew on Jezza running in the 3.30 at Southwell-it is the outsider of the field at 25-1,is a previous course and distance winner,is weighted 4lbs in on previous win with apprentice's 5lb off and from a trainer who can get one ready after a break.Usually with this stable it will be a horse that seems to know if it's been backed.0
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Reverse TrumpismCasino_Royale said:
I suspect that almost any attack on Khan by Zac will be labelled as "coded racist".TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It's this sort of nastiness - straight out of the Lutfur Rahman playbook - that makes him totally unsuitable to be Mayor of London, and a sign of things to come if he wins.0 -
The Republican Abroad spokeswoman on the Today program this morning was appalled. She was backing Rubio with a fall back of Cruz as I suspect most of the sensible people in the Republican party are. Unfortunately sensible people are something short of a majority in the modern Republican party so the result remains highly uncertain.
She was hinting that the principal concern of the Republican Establishment was to prevent Trump running as an Independent. I think that they are right to be concerned. He could easily do a Ross Perot and let a Clinton into the White House.0 -
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
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“By the way, I have friends who are Muslims. " arf.0
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http://abc13.com/news/police-burglar-who-hid-from-police-eaten-by-gator/1113816/
Definitely a case of out of the frying pan, and into the fire. And, I think we have a winner for this year's Darwin Award.0 -
I would call Osborne many things, but socialist is not one of those things! I would say I am socially liberal, I think you may be as well.John_M said:
When I joined in c. 2006 it was at the zenith of Blairite triumphalism - right wing views were very much the minority. The site tends to go in cycles. Some more lefty regulars are in hiding after ramping Labours awesome ground campaign in May.The_Apocalypse said:Donald Trump saying this is so unsurprising. The only thing I'm shocked about is that this is a new statement from him, tbh.
FPT:
I don't see why not; when many PBers have mentioned the site's changes several times in recent months. I don't see why I should reject their views, but yet accept your assessment of PB.Plato_Says said:Don't claim to know what PBers have thought over the years or their abundance before you joined this forum. It's very simple.
The_Apocalypse said:@Plato_Says I know that 'many' have, that's why I mentioned it in my post to you. Just because it isn't an opinion which coincides with your own, doesn't mean it's not valid. It would be curious if all perspectives of the last 7 years of a political website were all the same.
You keep on mentioning 'stop digging'. I don't particularly agree with that assessment of my posts, much like you don't agree with other views of how PB was in the past.
Personally I'm finding the whole right/left thing increasingly clumsy. I think you and I are probably very similar in our attitudes to social issues though our language might differ.
I am, however, super-dry fiscally. I think Osborne is a raging socialist who is doing a great deal of lasting harm to our economy. It's tragic that I literally have no alternative. He is the best man for the job, which speaks volumes for the paucity of political talent in this country.
I suppose right/left is a simplification, but Politics right now is so polarised it doesn't feel wrong to use those terms.
I've been told there was once a time when this site was full of LDs! It's strange to think in the future if Labour actually win a GE there could be quite a few left wingers on this site!0 -
''She was hinting that the principal concern of the Republican Establishment was to prevent Trump running as an Independent. I think that they are right to be concerned. He could easily do a Ross Perot and let a Clinton into the White House.''
The Obama coalition was, essentially, blacks+hispanics+blue collar whites.
Trump's tactic is to frighten the blue collar whites0 -
I said 20%. The L&N model put it even higher.Pong said:
I had Con Maj as about a 5% chance in the last few days of the campaign and bet on it at over 20/1 (highest odds were 25/1 on the evening of May 6th), as posted here;Pulpstar said:Also @Pong What was your estimate of the probability of Tory Majority just before the GE - you're an excellent bettor (Very well done on Oldham !), but are you sure you haven't let your anti-Trump prejudices cloud your judgement here a touch ?
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/05/06/another-3-polls-have-it-neck-and-neck/
Given all the evidence we had, Con Maj WAS a very unlikely outcome.
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He won't reoffend.Sean_F said:http://abc13.com/news/police-burglar-who-hid-from-police-eaten-by-gator/1113816/
Definitely a case of out of the frying pan, and into the fire.0 -
I think that's true of the London Labour Party.MP_SE said:
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
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It's a very easy way of silencing criticism, coupled with the fact that most of the Labour membership will agree with him.MP_SE said:
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It risks mobilising those who are disgusted by such politics in opposition to him, but the demographic trends of London are on Khan's side.0 -
You may have a point, - although I’m against reptilian vigilantism in principle.Pulpstar said:
He won't reoffend.Sean_F said:http://abc13.com/news/police-burglar-who-hid-from-police-eaten-by-gator/1113816/
Definitely a case of out of the frying pan, and into the fire.0 -
@JournoStephen: Scottish Parliament tells IndyCamp Live to get the hell off their lawn. https://t.co/FIhJWHO8vc
@STVColin: Indycampers say they are staying put0 -
Or is democracy only for those with the correct views?
In Britain? absolutely.
Americans are protected by the first amendment.0 -
The loss of revenues are of course a problem for the wider UK. I imagine it will make it more difficult to meed deficit targets and there will be job losses as well I should think. Against this is the downward pressure in inflation and so more money for private spending (and VAT) elsewhere.CarlottaVance said:
Brent crude oil prices crash below $40 for the first time in seven yearsScott_P said:@Tigers2iron: Ive used The #SNP oil boom calculator to work out my projected earnings for 2016...It's £1.38million @annetteholliday will be delighted
http://www.cityam.com/230439/brent-crude-oil-prices-pull-away-from-nearly-seven-year-lows
And of course the wider broader stronger UK economy can better weather the shocks.0 -
It is very depressing that Khan is appearing to run on a demographic rather than democratic ticket.Casino_Royale said:
It's a very easy way of silencing criticism, coupled with the fact that most of the Labour membership will agree with him.MP_SE said:
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It risks mobilising those who are disgusted by such politics in opposition to him, but the demographic trends of London are on Khan's side.0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
F1: Ecclestone says F1's in trouble, with TV audiences down:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35037357
Now, why might that be?0 -
Rumours that the schizo knifeman from Leytonstone was an uber driver...0
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Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.The_Apocalypse said:
I would call Osborne many things, but socialist is not one of those things! I would say I am socially liberal, I think you may be as well.John_M said:
When I joined in c. 2006 it was at the zenith of Blairite triumphalism - right wing views were very much the minority. The site tends to go in cycles. Some more lefty regulars are in hiding after ramping Labours awesome ground campaign in May.The_Apocalypse said:Donald Trump saying this is so unsurprising. The only thing I'm shocked about is that this is a new statement from him, tbh.
FPT:
I don't see why not; when many PBers have mentioned the site's changes several times in recent months. I don't see why I should reject their views, but yet accept your assessment of PB.Plato_Says said:Don't claim to know what PBers have thought over the years or their abundance before you joined this forum. It's very simple.
The_Apocalypse said:@Plato_Says I know that 'many' have, that's why I mentioned it in my post to you. Just because it isn't an opinion which coincides with your own, doesn't mean it's not valid. It would be curious if all perspectives of the last 7 years of a political website were all the same.
You keep on mentioning 'stop digging'. I don't particularly agree with that assessment of my posts, much like you don't agree with other views of how PB was in the past.
Personally I'm finding the whole right/left thing increasingly clumsy. I think you and I are probably very similar in our attitudes to social issues though our language might differ.
I am, however, super-dry fiscally. I think Osborne is a raging socialist who is doing a great deal of lasting harm to our economy. It's tragic that I literally have no alternative. He is the best man for the job, which speaks volumes for the paucity of political talent in this country.
I suppose right/left is a simplification, but Politics right now is so polarised it doesn't feel wrong to use those terms.
I've been told there was once a time when this site was full of LDs! It's strange to think in the future if Labour actually win a GE there could be quite a few left wingers on this site!
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?0 -
Labour's approach to criticism of Khan reminds me of the Witchsmeller Pursuivant.
Witchsmeller: "My lord, will you listen to the pleadings of a man who may very well be a witch himself?"
Prince Harry: "You know, you're absolutely right. Well, that concludes the case for the defence."0 -
PCC Elections - In Durham it looks like Boss Hogg will be rubber stamped as the Labour candidate again without a contest, and then should be a shoo-in, since the force has just won best force, or whatever. No locals, so expect a poor turnout, unless we have a "non-binding referendum" on the elected mayor the same day, which might boost it above 20%.
The big question is what will happen to Durham police when the city-region stuff comes in, as the force area will be split between North East and Tees Valley. Likewise the Fire Brigade.0 -
Only one party has used the race/Islam card against Khan in this campaign and it ain't the Tories
Tessa Jowell apologises after volunteer claims Sadiq Khan would be 'liability' as Mayor because he's Muslim
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tessa-jowell-apologises-after-volunteer-claims-sadiq-khan-would-be-liability-as-mayor-because-hes-a2926446.html0 -
This is why I have no sympathy for Labour members and politicians who are now being abused. Too many people have turned a blind eye or even encouraged such behaviour. The UK will be an unpleasant place to live should any legitimate criticism be silenced with allegations of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.Casino_Royale said:
It's a very easy way of silencing criticism, coupled with the fact that most of the Labour membership will agree with him.MP_SE said:
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It risks mobilising those who are disgusted by such politics in opposition to him, but the demographic trends of London are on Khan's side.0 -
Good way of putting it.oxfordsimon said:
It is very depressing that Khan is appearing to run on a demographic rather than democratic ticket.Casino_Royale said:
It's a very easy way of silencing criticism, coupled with the fact that most of the Labour membership will agree with him.MP_SE said:
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It risks mobilising those who are disgusted by such politics in opposition to him, but the demographic trends of London are on Khan's side.
More broadly, if demographic trends continue as they currently are nationwide, politics could be mostly like this by 2050.0 -
@faisalislam: Understand Opposition Parties in Lords to start ping pong Monday with altered motion on 16/17 yo #euref votes, despite "financial privilege"
Lords turkeys determined to vote for Christmas...0 -
I will have shuffled off by then - but that doesn't get away from the fact that identity politics like this is utterly repugnant.Casino_Royale said:
Good way of putting it.oxfordsimon said:
It is very depressing that Khan is appearing to run on a demographic rather than democratic ticket.Casino_Royale said:
It's a very easy way of silencing criticism, coupled with the fact that most of the Labour membership will agree with him.MP_SE said:
That is incredible. Trying to smear Goldsmith when he hasn't done anything remotely wrong. It is clear what Labour are doing. Labour have morfed into a truly disgusting party.Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
It risks mobilising those who are disgusted by such politics in opposition to him, but the demographic trends of London are on Khan's side.
More broadly, if demographic trends continue as they currently are nationwide, politics could be mostly like this by 2050.0 -
Because Lewis has made F1 boring.Morris_Dancer said:Good afternoon, everyone.
F1: Ecclestone says F1's in trouble, with TV audiences down:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35037357
Now, why might that be?0 -
Guido's already on it:isam said:Rumours that the schizo knifeman from Leytonstone was an uber driver...
http://order-order.com/2015/12/08/taxi-union-weaponise-leytonstone-terror/0 -
Why would anyone want to ban Muslims from their country?
They're never any trouble, integrate very well and have a very high level of employment.0 -
She really isn't - vacuous virtue signalling about the US when her focus should be much closer to home. since when was a foul-mouthed tirade classified as 'wit'?DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
Couldn't agree more.
Heard the latest Trump tirade this morning - my first thought was I think he's got the nomination in the bag.
Has anyone seen the Tory attack ad on Sadiq Khan. It seems to me to be devastatingly effective:
https://www.facebook.com/conservatives/videos/10153554523749279/
I think CCHQ is gunning for the mayoralty AND his seat in Tooting in 2020.....0 -
Ecclestone is more responsible that LewisTheScreamingEagles said:
Because Lewis has made F1 boring.Morris_Dancer said:Good afternoon, everyone.
F1: Ecclestone says F1's in trouble, with TV audiences down:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35037357
Now, why might that be?
His constant rule manipulation and unpleasant business behaviour are at the core of the problems facing this activity.0 -
Try reading the whole thread before making silly comments.DavidL said:
Second place actually, they are fighting for second place and having a leader with wit is one of the main reasons.felix said:
You have to wonder why a person leading a party fighting for 3rd place in Scotland thinks it's useful to spend time on twitter hurling personal abuse at a potential presdient. Does she really think this will win over the SNP vote to the blue surge.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
For anybody who wants to make there own mind up the video is at the following link:Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
https://www.facebook.com/conservatives/videos/10153554523749279/
Its pretty hard hitting and it could be argued that some is slightly out of context (but not by a lot) but I cant see anything that would tern 'community's against one another' not a bit, and definitely not racist not even 'coded racist' If anybody think it is then please tell me why, I genuinely what to know?
I see its been watched 50,000 times, I wonder how many extra views this will bring?
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I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!BigRich said:Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?0 -
I read Ruthy's comment as ironic.felix said:
Try reading the whole thread before making silly comments.DavidL said:
Second place actually, they are fighting for second place and having a leader with wit is one of the main reasons.felix said:
You have to wonder why a person leading a party fighting for 3rd place in Scotland thinks it's useful to spend time on twitter hurling personal abuse at a potential presdient. Does she really think this will win over the SNP vote to the blue surge.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?
c.f. "You ok hun?"
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What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?0
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Just watched the video. Labour are just playing the race card.0
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Hi de hi, Indycampers!Scott_P said:@JournoStephen: Scottish Parliament tells IndyCamp Live to get the hell off their lawn. https://t.co/FIhJWHO8vc
@STVColin: Indycampers say they are staying put0 -
Since 1597felix said:
She really isn't - vacuous virtue signalling about the US when her focus should be much closer to home. since when was a foul-mouthed tirade classified as 'wit'?DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
Not a very good debating point from the Taximen if anyone remembers Mr Worboys.JosiasJessop said:
Guido's already on it:isam said:Rumours that the schizo knifeman from Leytonstone was an uber driver...
http://order-order.com/2015/12/08/taxi-union-weaponise-leytonstone-terror/0 -
It can only be expressed in Scientific Notation using large numbers.Sean_F said:What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?
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Damn, I'm ever so slightly left of centre!The_Apocalypse said:
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!BigRich said:Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?0 -
Agreed - it is a wonderful ad. Perfect flip-flop candidate vs principled Mr. Goldsmith.BigRich said:
For anybody who wants to make there own mind up the video is at the following link:Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
https://www.facebook.com/conservatives/videos/10153554523749279/
Its pretty hard hitting and it could be argued that some is slightly out of context (but not by a lot) but I cant see anything that would tern 'community's against one another' not a bit, and definitely not racist not even 'coded racist' If anybody think it is then please tell me why, I genuinely what to know?
I see its been watched 50,000 times, I wonder how many extra views this will bring?
And, as you say, more people will watch it because of the farcical rebuttal. What happened to all the grown ups in Labour's media operations team?
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Hosted at a summit in Downing Street by Prime Minister Corbyn in 2020 ?logical_song said:
It can only be expressed in Scientific Notation using large numbers.Sean_F said:What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?
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My favourite Steven Seagal film has to be "Under Siege".Casino_Royale said:
I prefer Steven Seagal in out for justice: he's a chickenshitmotherfuckingpussyasshole.DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
This is clearly right - Trump has to calculate that the number of people who voted Republican last time that he's frightening away, is significantly smaller than the white working class vote he's stripping away from the Dems. It assumes the vast majority of Republicans will vote for him while holding their nose because the alternative is Clinton.taffys said:''She was hinting that the principal concern of the Republican Establishment was to prevent Trump running as an Independent. I think that they are right to be concerned. He could easily do a Ross Perot and let a Clinton into the White House.''
The Obama coalition was, essentially, blacks+hispanics+blue collar whites.
Trump's tactic is to frighten the blue collar whites
The fact that Clinton is the Democratic candidate (as good as) helps Trump. Moderate republicans might choose some Democrats over Trump, but (and even though she's a centrist) not Hillary.0 -
Mr. Mortimer, it must be hell to be such a person in Labour now, akin to being a good man during the eunuch-infested later Han era, or when Byzantium was ruined by the Angeli.0
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@michaelsavage: Philadelphia Daily News not messing about on Donald Trump: 'The New Furor' (h/t @AaronBlakeWP) https://t.co/ZSY1ZxbcR20
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Re London Mayoral Election. Wonder if we will here more reports of misinformation being spread among certain communities like in Oldham?0
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Re-education....Mortimer said:
Agreed - it is a wonderful ad. Perfect flip-flop candidate vs principled Mr. Goldsmith.BigRich said:
For anybody who wants to make there own mind up the video is at the following link:Sean_F said:
It's pretty clear which campaign is "dog-whistling" and it's not Zac Goldmsith's.TheScreamingEagles said:Labour today stepped up its attack on Zac Goldsmith accusing him of running a “coded racist” mayoral campaign.
The party went on the offensive after a Tory “Who is Sadiq Khan?” video, criticising him over his Heathrow stance, union links and support for Jeremy Corbyn, led to a string of offensive comments on Facebook.
Labour also hit out at a Tory four-page newspaper that condemns Mr Khan as a “divisive and radical” politician.
Shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry said: “London is the most diverse and tolerant city in the world but Goldsmith and the Tories are running a divisive and dog-whistling campaign - trying to turn London’s communities against each other.”
A source close to Mr Khan branded the Tory campaign as “coded racist”.
http://bit.ly/1NTp47s
https://www.facebook.com/conservatives/videos/10153554523749279/
Its pretty hard hitting and it could be argued that some is slightly out of context (but not by a lot) but I cant see anything that would tern 'community's against one another' not a bit, and definitely not racist not even 'coded racist' If anybody think it is then please tell me why, I genuinely what to know?
I see its been watched 50,000 times, I wonder how many extra views this will bring?
And, as you say, more people will watch it because of the farcical rebuttal. What happened to all the grown ups in Labour's media operations team?0 -
Erika Eleniak exiting the cake, right?Sunil_Prasannan said:
My favourite Steven Seagal film has to be "Under Siege".Casino_Royale said:
I prefer Steven Seagal in out for justice: he's a chickenshitmotherfuckingpussyasshole.DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
As did I, very surprisinglyThe_Apocalypse said:
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!BigRich said:Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?
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Where did you hope to be?TwistedFireStopper said:
Damn, I'm ever so slightly left of centre!The_Apocalypse said:
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!BigRich said:Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?0 -
@Ankaman616: Editor: "I dare you to do it."
Picture Desk: "I can't, people will notice."
Editor: "Pay you $20?"
Picture Desk: https://t.co/VLrK2384Ba0 -
Not sure how that works out in his favour given the US system e.g. places like Florida are vital to win in order to become President. The Republicans have won there in the past due to a big support from the likes of the Cuban communities, Obama managed to win them over.DearPB said:
This is clearly right - Trump has to calculate that the number of people who voted Republican last time that he's frightening away, is significantly smaller than the white working class vote he's stripping away from the Dems. It assumes the vast majority of Republicans will vote for him while holding their nose because the alternative is Clinton.taffys said:''She was hinting that the principal concern of the Republican Establishment was to prevent Trump running as an Independent. I think that they are right to be concerned. He could easily do a Ross Perot and let a Clinton into the White House.''
The Obama coalition was, essentially, blacks+hispanics+blue collar whites.
Trump's tactic is to frighten the blue collar whites
The fact that Clinton is the Democratic candidate (as good as) helps Trump. Moderate republicans might choose some Democrats over Trump, but (and even though she's a centrist) not Hillary.
Not sure how Trump going big time anti-immigrant with endear him to the Cubans.0 -
The Left make the mistake that they will be detested more than they are.Sean_F said:What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?
The tables may be turning on that. None are my cup of tea, and they're clearly reactionary, but Nazis are they not and that's what you get when the mainstream don't deal with the issues of concern to people.0 -
That Trump cover is a disgrace.
It's Führer, not Furor.0 -
Funny how certain media outlets are all too happy to go with the Hitler style photos e.g the Farage "pixel error", but I bet we never see similar ones for Jahadi Jez / McMao.Casino_Royale said:
The Left make the mistake that they will be detested more than they are.Sean_F said:What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?
The tables may be turning on that. None are my cup of tea, and they're clearly reactionary, but Nazis are they not and that's what you get when the mainstream don't deal with the issues of concern to people.0 -
I was happily as libertarian as libertarian can be, but it's not the best of these tests I've seen, and clearly skewed toward encouraging a libertarian position. It's clear from the way the questions are put and by the identity of the organisation hosting it.John_M said:
As did I, very surprisinglyThe_Apocalypse said:
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!BigRich said:Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?.0 -
Trump is doing great by american standards:
https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/674208342592626688/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
https://twitter.com/jimtankersley/status/674238713875013632
And he loves it:
http://i.imgur.com/pkGuP8k.gif0 -
I got left Liberal too. We're all left Liberal today.
maybe I'm just a Jezzaphobe?0 -
Mr. Urquhart, wrong sort of dickheads.0
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No - USS Missouri stretching her sea-legsTwistedFireStopper said:
Erika Eleniak exiting the cake, right?Sunil_Prasannan said:
My favourite Steven Seagal film has to be "Under Siege".Casino_Royale said:
I prefer Steven Seagal in out for justice: he's a chickenshitmotherfuckingpussyasshole.DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?
(um, and the cake bit!)0 -
I think that all conventional thinking is subverted if he's the nominee. Normal US Presidential Elections (recently) are decided by those few swing states because the others have been solidly red or blue for the past 4 or 5 elections. Trump vs Clinton puts everything into play - States that have been Democrat since Clinton 1 will be in his sights; States that have been Republican for ever, he'll have written off.FrancisUrquhart said:
Not sure how that works out in his favour given the US system e.g. places like Florida are vital to win in order to become President. The Republicans have won there in the past due to a big support from the likes of the Cuban communities, Obama managed to win them over.DearPB said:
This is clearly right - Trump has to calculate that the number of people who voted Republican last time that he's frightening away, is significantly smaller than the white working class vote he's stripping away from the Dems. It assumes the vast majority of Republicans will vote for him while holding their nose because the alternative is Clinton.taffys said:''She was hinting that the principal concern of the Republican Establishment was to prevent Trump running as an Independent. I think that they are right to be concerned. He could easily do a Ross Perot and let a Clinton into the White House.''
The Obama coalition was, essentially, blacks+hispanics+blue collar whites.
Trump's tactic is to frighten the blue collar whites
The fact that Clinton is the Democratic candidate (as good as) helps Trump. Moderate republicans might choose some Democrats over Trump, but (and even though she's a centrist) not Hillary.
Not sure how Trump going big time anti-immigrant with endear him to the Cubans.0 -
Does seem to be the case.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, wrong sort of dickheads.
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Ha!!!MattW said:
Not a very good debating point from the Taximen if anyone remembers Mr Worboys.JosiasJessop said:
Guido's already on it:isam said:Rumours that the schizo knifeman from Leytonstone was an uber driver...
http://order-order.com/2015/12/08/taxi-union-weaponise-leytonstone-terror/
I typed "How long until a lefty digs and finds a white man driving a black cab who committed a crime" but deleted as I didn't think anyone would be so petty
Well done!0 -
I wonder if we'll be swamped by refugee Social Justice Warriors from the USA, France, and Holland, if it comes about.Casino_Royale said:
The Left make the mistake that they will be detested more than they are.Sean_F said:What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?
The tables may be turning on that. None are my cup of tea, and they're clearly reactionary, but Nazis are they not and that's what you get when the mainstream don't deal with the issues of concern to people.0 -
We have enough of those nutters of our own thankyouverymuchSean_F said:
I wonder if we'll be swamped by refugee Social Justice Warriors from the USA, France, and Holland, if it comes about.Casino_Royale said:
The Left make the mistake that they will be detested more than they are.Sean_F said:What are the odds on getting President Trump, Presidente Le Pen, and Prime Minister Wilders by 2018?
The tables may be turning on that. None are my cup of tea, and they're clearly reactionary, but Nazis are they not and that's what you get when the mainstream don't deal with the issues of concern to people.0 -
And the polling evidence behind Trump's call:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/10/americans-islam-poll_n_7036574.html
55% of americans have an unfavourable view of islam.
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/7/9868996/trump-islam-chart
56% of americans think islam is un-american.
And it's not down to party lines, 43% of democrats also think the same way.
Prepare for questions on US customs such as "are you, or you ever have been, a muslim ?".0 -
Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone0 -
I'm off to New York next month, I'll let you know customs are.Speedy said:And the polling evidence behind Trump's call:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/10/americans-islam-poll_n_7036574.html
55% of americans have an unfavourable view of islam.
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/7/9868996/trump-islam-chart
56% of americans think islam is un-american.
And it's not down to party lines, 43% of democrats also think the same way.
Prepare for questions on US customs such as "are you, or you ever have been, a muslim ?".
Must not be sarcastic to them again.
'Cause when they ask you 'do you have any weapons?' They get very upset when you reply with
'why, what do you need ?'0 -
The best scene by far.TwistedFireStopper said:
Erika Eleniak exiting the cake, right?Sunil_Prasannan said:
My favourite Steven Seagal film has to be "Under Siege".Casino_Royale said:
I prefer Steven Seagal in out for justice: he's a chickenshitmotherfuckingpussyasshole.DavidL said:
She's great. Is there a politician in the UK better at using twitter? I can't think of one. It needs brevity and wit. Very, very few politicians can manage either.TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite Tory nails it via the medium of Shakespeare.
@RuthDavidsonMSP: So, twitter, we're all agreed? Trump's a clay-brained guts, knotty-pated fool, whoreson obscene greasy tallow-catch, right?0 -
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views ^_~TheScreamingEagles said:Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone0 -
Mr. Eagles, failure?
Cameron surprised some to win the leadership, became PM and then won a shock General Election.
In policy terms, he's been weak on Defence (perhaps changing a little), foolish on Aid and disappointing over his baffling lack of understanding on the interweb. In broad economic terms, he's been fairly good, and given the only viable alternatives have been the continuation of the lunatic Brown, the premiership of Red Ed, or the Maoist madness of Corbyn, McDonnell et al., it's no contest that Cameron is, at least, the best of a bad bunch.0 -
Its the economy stupid....Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, failure?
Cameron surprised some to win the leadership, became PM and then won a shock General Election.
In policy terms, he's been weak on Defence (perhaps changing a little), foolish on Aid and disappointing over his baffling lack of understanding on the interweb. In broad economic terms, he's been fairly good, and given the only viable alternatives have been the continuation of the lunatic Brown, the premiership of Red Ed, or the Maoist madness of Corbyn, McDonnell et al., it's no contest that Cameron is, at least, the best of a bad bunch.0 -
Fair Point,DearPB said:
I was happily as libertarian as libertarian can be, but it's not the best of these tests I've seen, and clearly skewed toward encouraging a libertarian position. It's clear from the way the questions are put and by the identity of the organisation hosting it.John_M said:
As did I, very surprisinglyThe_Apocalypse said:
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!BigRich said:Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?.
But as an introduction to the concept, of seeing the political landscape as a 2 axis rather than one axis, it is succinct and effective.0 -
If we have a recession, 2020 will be like 1992 with knobs on.Pulpstar said:
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views.TheScreamingEagles said:Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone
Don't go laying Corbyn next PM at ~ 9-1 just yet...0 -
Jeremy Corbyn makes the case against Labour better than anyone.TheScreamingEagles said:Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone0 -
No one will know for sure until after the conferences in late 2019, still 4 years to go.Pulpstar said:
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views ^_~TheScreamingEagles said:Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone0 -
The Trump/Da'esh relationship reminds me a bit of Tories/SNP at the GE :P0
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It depends whether Labour replace Corbyn and McDonnell with people who are credible.TheScreamingEagles said:
If we have a recession, 2020 will be like 1992 with knobs on.Pulpstar said:
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views.TheScreamingEagles said:Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone
Don't go laying Corbyn next PM at ~ 9-1 just yet...
Otherwise, it doesn't matter what the economic circumstances are, what the government does, Labour won't win the next election.0
