The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to the slayer of that dragon
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
Richard Nabavi - Cameron's loyal toady on PB
Not while I'm around, sunshine.
Peerage?
Come on then JohnO, defend Dave's Heathrow manoeuvrings
Has all the hallmarks of Osborne.
As we know Osborne is a genius and master strategist.
In George we trust.
It's so amusingly transparent though. Or can the average man on the street not see out an open window ?
They don't care and they don't notice.
Only way they would notice it is if Cameron announced it whilst eating a bacon sandwich badly.
Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!
I got libertarian which is accurate, the state should have minimal interference in our lives
Yep I got Libertarian as well. 90% on both social and economic issues.
Some of my conservative acquaintances claim to be libertarian without any hint of irony.
David Cameron isn't obliged to announce policy decisions in a manner that causes his party maximum embarrassment. Given how long we've been waiting for a decision on a third runway, a few more months won't matter.
Personally I'm pretty sceptical about the need for a third runway. It smacks of the sort of high profile infrastructure investment that politicians love and which could fund about 50 less glamorous but more useful schemes.
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to their saviour
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
I always thought it was 2.. he hasn't done a lot of what he said he would, he has done a lot that he didn't say he would.. but the banner says "Conservative", and colours have been nailed to the mast
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views.
Don't go laying Corbyn next PM at ~ 9-1 just yet...
If we have a recession, 2020 will be like 1992 with knobs on.
As a pointed out a day or so ago - quoting Davis Smith Economics Editor of the Sunday Times - there is no long term prospect of interest rates rising much above 2% for at least 5 years. The long term downward pressure on interest rates (according to analysis by BoE and OBR) began before the bank crisis and recession. This analysis may be wrong, who knows, but it is by people who know better than anyone on here. I do not see interest rates hovering around 2% as indicative of a crisis or recession. The normal course is for the economy to overheat - interest rates rise to slow it down so spending falls, unemployment rises and the economy slows down. A slow down is not necessarily a contraction. Its called the economic cycle. If interest rates are going top stay at 2% max then policy leading to a contraction does not look likely. The closing comment was - Not so long ago 2% would have been a mere staging post for interest rates. Now it starts to look like the final destination.
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to their saviour
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
You should see it when Dave visits Tory associations. He rides in on a donkey whilst Tory activists lay Palm trees in front of him
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to the slayer of that dragon
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
I think it's a desire to belong. To belong to the party but also perhaps to the rather patrician club that Cameron seems to represent.
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to their saviour
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
You should see it when Dave visits Tory associations. He rides in on a donkey whilst Tory activists lay Palm trees in front of him
If that follows previous patterns, next week he'll be crucified.
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to their saviour
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
You should see it when Dave visits Tory associations. He rides in on a donkey whilst Tory activists lay Palm trees in front of him
If that follows previous patterns, next week he'll be crucified.
No doubt to rise again before ascending to Brussels.
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to their saviour
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
You should see it when Dave visits Tory associations. He rides in on a donkey whilst Tory activists lay Palm trees in front of him
If that follows previous patterns, next week he'll be crucified.
The question who will be Barabbas and who will be Peter?
Trump POTUS? beyond the wildest imaginings of the maddest satirist.
Well the prediction powers of PB or the media have not been very great on this (not mine, of course), remember Fiorina? She was supposed to be the frontrunner after she was declared by the media and most of PB (not me, of course) the winner of the second GOP debate, look what happened to her (as predicted by me, of course):
As someone who hasn't voted Conservative at either of the last two general elections, I can well understand David Cameron's appeal. He's undogmatic, pleasant, has that very English intelligence that doesn't require strong ideology, calm and loyal. He gives a restful tone to government that is rare in Prime Ministers.
''She was hinting that the principal concern of the Republican Establishment was to prevent Trump running as an Independent. I think that they are right to be concerned. He could easily do a Ross Perot and let a Clinton into the White House.''
The Obama coalition was, essentially, blacks+hispanics+blue collar whites.
Trump's tactic is to frighten the blue collar whites
This is clearly right - Trump has to calculate that the number of people who voted Republican last time that he's frightening away, is significantly smaller than the white working class vote he's stripping away from the Dems. It assumes the vast majority of Republicans will vote for him while holding their nose because the alternative is Clinton.
The fact that Clinton is the Democratic candidate (as good as) helps Trump. Moderate republicans might choose some Democrats over Trump, but (and even though she's a centrist) not Hillary.
Not sure how that works out in his favour given the US system e.g. places like Florida are vital to win in order to become President. The Republicans have won there in the past due to a big support from the likes of the Cuban communities, Obama managed to win them over.
Not sure how Trump going big time anti-immigrant with endear him to the Cubans.
Maybe the USA would be better governed if its politics were not so dominated by worrying about specific groups (e.g. Cubans, Hispanics etc etc). Maybe the UK would be wise to turn away from following the American example before it is too late.
A small example: TSE, gent of this parish, have different views on quite a lot of things and so will fall into different political camps. I think it quite legitimate for a political party to target their offering to us on the basis of our political views and how we may be persuaded to vote differently as a result. For a political party to target their message based on the fact that TSE likes red shoes and I prefer a more sober, but highly polished, black is as valid (but less offensive) than it should target on the fact that TSE and I have slightly different skin colours and come from different religious backgrounds.
Identity politics is as revolting as any other form of discrimination on the basis of involuntary characteristics.
Well said, Mr Llama!
Yes - very well said. And to John_M.
The Top Trumps Identity Competition which Labour indulges in is simply loathsome.
As someone who hasn't voted Conservative at either of the last two general elections, I can well understand David Cameron's appeal. He's undogmatic, pleasant, has that very English intelligence that doesn't require strong ideology, calm and loyal. He gives a restful tone to government that is rare in Prime Ministers.
The CBI have accused Cameron of "a lack of leadership" over Heathrow.
Amazing how the penny is starting to drop.
Yawn.
How old are you? Haven't you yet worked out that people pushing for specific policies always say things like that?
I expect you know that, but your bizarre obsession with Cameron - which seems to be the most dominant factor in everything you ever post here - blinds you to it when he's involved.
I can only think of two reasons for the messianic feelings towards Cameron by even the most level headed of posters.
1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to their saviour
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
You should see it when Dave visits Tory associations. He rides in on a donkey whilst Tory activists lay Palm trees in front of him
If that follows previous patterns, next week he'll be crucified.
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views.
Don't go laying Corbyn next PM at ~ 9-1 just yet...
If we have a recession, 2020 will be like 1992 with knobs on.
As a pointed out a day or so ago - quoting Davis Smith Economics Editor of the Sunday Times - there is no long term prospect of interest rates rising much above 2% for at least 5 years. The long term downward pressure on interest rates (according to analysis by BoE and OBR) began before the bank crisis and recession. This analysis may be wrong, who knows, but it is by people who know better than anyone on here. I do not see interest rates hovering around 2% as indicative of a crisis or recession. The normal course is for the economy to overheat - interest rates rise to slow it down so spending falls, unemployment rises and the economy slows down. A slow down is not necessarily a contraction. Its called the economic cycle. If interest rates are going top stay at 2% max then policy leading to a contraction does not look likely. The closing comment was - Not so long ago 2% would have been a mere staging post for interest rates. Now it starts to look like the final destination.
For those of use who subscribe to the Austrian Economics and the 'Austrian Business Cycle' Interest rates may already be to low, its impossible to say for certain. What can be sead will a high degree of confidence is that they will not rise as fast or as far as they should, which will lay the foundation of the next reception.
Central planning and setting prices of good didn't work for goods in the USSR or Venezuela and has never really worked successfully when it is tried, leading to too much of some things and shortages of others. Interest rates are a 'price' the price of money like all other goods should also be set at the interaction of supply of and demand (savers and borrowers) and not set by a committee, however talented we think the Monetary Policy Committee are, they fundamentally have the same problems that the central planers in the USSR.
If I have whetted anybody's appetite then see a simple explanation here:
Most political discussions, centred around the idea that positions is linear, operating around one Left right Axis. I thnk it is more complicated that that, but the best simple module is that of 2 axis, one for social attitudes and one for economic attitudes. crating a chess board square, or diamond shape, rather than I line.
I would recommend the 'Would smallest political quiz' where in 10 questions you can see where you stand on this square, link here: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#
It won't surprise anybody that I'm right in the Libertarian corner, Where are you?
I got Left Liberal (unsurprisingly)!
I got libertarian which is accurate, the state should have minimal interference in our lives
Yep I got Libertarian as well. 90% on both social and economic issues.
I got 100% libertarian and right in that corner. I wonder what we answered differently?
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1. There is something in Cameron's personality that inspires this extraordinary loyalty
2. Their relief at no longer having a Labour government requires giving thanks daily to the slayer of that dragon
As I've never thought of Cameron as an inspiring leader I would guess it's relief
Personally I'm pretty sceptical about the need for a third runway. It smacks of the sort of high profile infrastructure investment that politicians love and which could fund about 50 less glamorous but more useful schemes.
This analysis may be wrong, who knows, but it is by people who know better than anyone on here.
I do not see interest rates hovering around 2% as indicative of a crisis or recession. The normal course is for the economy to overheat - interest rates rise to slow it down so spending falls, unemployment rises and the economy slows down. A slow down is not necessarily a contraction. Its called the economic cycle.
If interest rates are going top stay at 2% max then policy leading to a contraction does not look likely.
The closing comment was - Not so long ago 2% would have been a mere staging post for interest rates. Now it starts to look like the final destination.
I seem to remember that being said of Ronald Reagan.
For years he was the bete noire of the left. It was Reagan who was the problem, not his counterpart in the Kremlin.
By the time he'd left the Eastern block was on its knees. It disintegrated soon after.
The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.
Also, his first name was Jesus. So, his full name means Saviour, Son of the Father.
Isn’t that normally referred to as a barricade?
She was supposed to be the frontrunner after she was declared by the media and most of PB (not me, of course) the winner of the second GOP debate, look what happened to her (as predicted by me, of course):
https://twitter.com/gabriellahope_/status/674020248660656128
The Top Trumps Identity Competition which Labour indulges in is simply loathsome.
Central planning and setting prices of good didn't work for goods in the USSR or Venezuela and has never really worked successfully when it is tried, leading to too much of some things and shortages of others. Interest rates are a 'price' the price of money like all other goods should also be set at the interaction of supply of and demand (savers and borrowers) and not set by a committee, however talented we think the Monetary Policy Committee are, they fundamentally have the same problems that the central planers in the USSR.
If I have whetted anybody's appetite then see a simple explanation here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrCMUBppDd4
Or if you what a more amusing video of Austrian economics V Keynes .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk