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I shot this footage. Thanks to Tissue Price for alerting me to the footage.

Ok which of you cyber nats is King Alex?? MalcolmG?

They clearly didn't listen to her advice...

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/669515044812664832

Dair, MalcG, Unniondivvie, DavidL and all the others from Scotland? No I am sure he is the much derided and absent 'chortle' Mickp0rk 'chortle'

Just woke up so trying to catch up, but have the tax credit cuts been reversed entirely? Wow.

Await an infestation of cybernats!

RobD said:

Just woke up so trying to catch up, but have the tax credit cuts been reversed entirely? Wow.

Will be absorbed by Universal credit in the (Not so) long run.

Still can't believe the Shadow Chancellor stood up in the Commons today and quoted from a book written by the biggest mass murderer in history.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

AndyJS said:

Still can't believe the Shadow Chancellor stood up in the Commons today and quoted from a book written by the biggest mass murderer in history.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

TBH with Laural and Hardy in charge nothing is becoming unbelievable. Last week, hug a Jahadi and send him to the naughty step, now quoting from a book by a mass murderer. Just another day in the weird world of the UK Labour Party circa 2015. It really makes Gordon Brown's time in charge, complete with all his PR disasters, pale into insignificance.

Since Alex Salmond reads this blog can I ask him to give his projection of the price of Brent Crude over the next 5 years and apologise to the House for his last one?

Danny565 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I remember the day when the likes of Hopi were in the "centre" of the Labour Party, now he must feel like the weird outsider in his own party.

Hopi Sen has always been on the extreme right of the party.

Ed Miliband is the centre of the party.

I didn't mean it in terms of left / right politically, i meant it when he was involved in the day to day stuff. Maybe I should have said "at the heart", in his role as press officer.

MarqueeMark said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

So he's clearly Malc then?

If Salmond had been on here under the guise of any of the well-known Nats, he'd have had three years warning of the issues that were going to trip up the YES campaign...

But he, like the nat posters, ignored them

flightpath01 said:

Since Alex Salmond reads this blog can I ask him to give his projection of the price of Brent Crude over the next 5 years and apologise to the House for his last one?

Are you going to ask for an apology from the Brent Crude Futures market as well?

Well done Mike and PB!

That McMao will now be forced into saying Mao Was Bad is just another part of the fall out from this clusterfuck

AndyJS said:

Still can't believe the Shadow Chancellor stood up in the Commons today and quoted from a book written by the biggest mass murderer in history.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

RobD said:

Just woke up so trying to catch up, but have the tax credit cuts been reversed entirely? Wow.

The real 'wow' might be that the projections are for quite a bit more in tax revenues.
This seems to have given a bit of leeway to delay the tax credit welfare issue.

flightpath01 said:

RobD said:

Just woke up so trying to catch up, but have the tax credit cuts been reversed entirely? Wow.

The real 'wow' might be that the projections are for quite a bit more in tax revenues.
This seems to have given a bit of leeway to delay the tax credit welfare issue.

Hopefully he used the extra money to reduce the deficit, not fund scrapping cuts or new spending!

Brilliant. By @Adamstoon1 https://t.co/TbRhspk0nH

@FrancisUrquhart

Given McDonnell's love of Mao's Red Book, I suppose that someone on The Labour benches might recall Mr Tucker. "If some cunt can fuck something up, that cunt will pick the worst possible time to fucking fuck it up cause that cunt's a cunt."

But it will be expressed in a more refined manner.

Plato_Says said:

That McMao will now be forced into saying Mao Was Bad is just another part of the fall out from this clusterfuck

AndyJS said:

Still can't believe the Shadow Chancellor stood up in the Commons today and quoted from a book written by the biggest mass murderer in history.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

What chance he comes up with a load of weasel words that manage to avoid saying that Mao was bad. So the journalist will ask the question a different way and he'll again avoid saying a bad word about Mao.

As Laurel and Hardy might once have said, that's another fine mess...

Malcolm Tucker’s response to the Chairman Moa stunt will be published after the watershed.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

SimonStClare said:

Malcolm Tucker’s response to the Chairman Moa stunt will be published after the watershed.

It was on the previous thread...

@rosschawkins: McDonnell to @BenBrownBBC on milions of deaths under Mao: of course I condemn all that

Tissue_Price said:

Pong said:

http://www.lbc.co.uk/the-disgraceful-autumn-statement-policy-that-will-hit-students-120393

Making an enemy out of Martin Lewis is not smart politics.

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/who-will-influence-the-eu-referendum-martin-lewis-not-june-sarpong/

Another unforced error from George.

I have been stuck in court all day and am somewhat bemused at the headlines. The WTC cuts cancelled or at least postponed to 2018? I really did not see that coming. And a lot more money for housing and some more money for the police (actually quite a small amount)? I am bemused that he thinks he has this amount to play with when the month on month figures for the deficit have not been great.

And McDonnell made a tit of himself? Well that at least was predictable.

flightpath01 said:

So everyone is talking about Chairman Mao and PBdotcom. Pretty disastrous autumn statement then.

In other news Hunt seems to have agreed to arbitration in the Junior doctors dispute.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/12016635/Junior-doctors-strike-Government-agrees-to-talks-at-Acas.html

Scott_P said:

@rosschawkins: McDonnell to @BenBrownBBC on milions of deaths under Mao: of course I condemn all that

Just badly advised and all the other stuff wasn't bad?

When in a hole, keep digging. It's hard to believe that they're not doing it deliberately to try to provoke resignations.

Alex Wickham ‏@WikiGuido
Amazing. McDonnell tweets out video of his speech but WIPES Mao section! http://order-order.com/2015/11/25/mcdonnell-wipes-mao-from-official-video-of-speech/

"John McDonnell says today is the day George Osborne promised that the deficit would be eliminated, but it is currently more than £70m. He's failed in his fiscal targets, he adds."

Just 70m, the boy wonder is doing much much better than I thought on the deficit reduction...

Aides to McDonnell are now complaining that they are reporting his stunt.

Umm...

The headlines just write themselves...

@robertshrimsley: "Osborne relaxed. Someone had taken a great leap backwards and somehow, miraculously, it turned out not to be him." https://t.co/Fd7ztDIYHS

@GdnPolitics: John McDonnell's great leap forward puts Osborne one step ahead https://t.co/bVjgBL8lwU

HurstLlama said:

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

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FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

South Georgia 1982? Though as it was tied up alongside at the time I am not sure that partially sunk is the correct term.

Yep. I think it was partly listing after the helicopter attack, so I call that 'partially sunk'.

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

I have been stuck in court all day and am somewhat bemused at the headlines. The WTC cuts cancelled or at least postponed to 2018? I really did not see that coming. And a lot more money for housing and some more money for the police (actually quite a small amount)? I am bemused that he thinks he has this amount to play with when the month on month figures for the deficit have not been great.

And McDonnell made a tit of himself? Well that at least was predictable.

Osborne suffers Brown's fear of a bad headline.

It certainly does seem that Cameron and Osborne are determined to govern in the same manner as Blair and Brown. One can only hope that their administration will not be quite as awful for the nation as was that of their seeming role models.

flightpath01 said:

So everyone is talking about Chairman Mao and PBdotcom. Pretty disastrous autumn statement then.

Some people will remember the Mao quote longer than the Autumn Statement.

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

Belgrano was the only ship sunk by a nuclear submarine.

AndyJS said:

flightpath01 said:

So everyone is talking about Chairman Mao and PBdotcom. Pretty disastrous autumn statement then.

Some people will remember the Mao quote longer than the Autumn Statement.

What Mao quote?
The thing I remember is a U-Turn on Tax Credits.

Roger said:

Salmond quotes Mike. McDonnel quotes Mao.

Cultural Devolution?

HurstLlama said:

I see the headline in the Telegraph is:

"Autumn statement ushers in the end of austerity"

Given that we still have a structural deficit of about £70bn per annum that may not actually be good news.

There has never been any 'austerity' as generally categorised. The government has always been quite cautious about cutting expenditure and expenditure will continue to cut at pretty much the same rate. I am not sure that many areas in the public sector are going to say that the era of cuts is over.
The OBR may be wrong but they have probably got a better handle on things than you or me and they continue to predict a fall in the deficit leading to a surplus as previously.

Sadly McDonnell seems arthritically incompetent.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

Belgrano was the only ship sunk by a nuclear submarine.

A couple of fishing boats off the west coast?

Sunil_Prasannan said:

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

Belgrano was the only ship sunk by a nuclear submarine.

I think several trawlers too. Not intentionally though.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

Belgrano was the only ship sunk by a nuclear submarine.

The Argie one in South Georgia? (Santa Fe?)

McDonnell is just hopeless. He just makes Osborne look like an economic genius in contrast to his daft ramblings. I suspect he pulled out the little red book to ensure that noone paid much attention to what else he said. I don't think he understands that wishful thinking isn't a very effective policy device.

Still our thoughts today should be with the 4.1 children that still live in absolute poverty.

Danny565 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

I remember the day when the likes of Hopi were in the "centre" of the Labour Party, now he must feel like the weird outsider in his own party.

Hopi Sen has always been on the extreme right of the party.

Ed Miliband is the centre of the party.

Then the party is doomed. Ed Miliband was deemed completely unelectable by the nation.

When is the last time someone you deem centre of Labour won a UK election?

RobD said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

Belgrano was the only ship sunk by a nuclear submarine.

I think several trawlers too. Not intentionally though.

I assume the sub was simply too high and hit the bottom of the trawler, rather than firing it's torpedos!

Several died in this one:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/submarine-crew-blamed-for-sinking-of-antares-1532324.html

Some of the other trawler losses are a bit more mysterious.

RobD said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

JosiasJessop said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Await an infestation of cybernats!

FPT


Air to air victories in that list, the one I posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_air-to-air_combat_losses

Here's a well-known one that's been discussed on here: when was the last time a submarine was partly sunk by an aircraft?

Belgrano was the only ship sunk by a nuclear submarine.

I think several trawlers too. Not intentionally though.

I assume the sub was simply too high and hit the bottom of the trawler, rather than firing it's torpedos!

Haven't some subs fouled a trawler's nets and tipped them over?

Well done Mike.

What was Osborne's response? The clip unfortunately doesn't include it!

HurstLlama said:

@Ominium

"... I don't think he understands that wishful thinking isn't a very effective policy device."

Osborne seems to get by on it .

That's not true though is it. Osborne has presided over a really quite substantial reduction in the deficit. Perhaps it's mostly luck, but he has delivered at least in part on the goals he set himself. Those goals were pretty vital for us as a nation too.

I don't like at all the way he allows the deadlines to slide, and I'm really disappointed that he hasn't found a way to kill off welfare as a pillar of society. (I'm all for mitigating the impact in the short term, but the long term ambition should have been retained.)

Osborne has overall done a fair job in difficult circumstances. Would you really want McDonnell in his place?

"Jeremy Corbyn is being kept away from campaigning ahead of next week’s Oldham West by-election because of concerns he is “toxic” among voters, according to a Labour MP."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12014388/Wheres-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-leader-hardly-seen-in-Oldham-West-and-Royton-by-election.html

surbiton said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Hopi Sen twitter feeds reads like somebody about to witness the most almighty of pile ups...

what's he doing,
he's pulled out a little red book,
no don't say, no don't say Let's quote from Mao,
oh god he has,
sadness in their eyes....
[RADIO SILENCE]

I remember the day when the likes of Hopi were in the "centre" of the Labour Party, now he must feel like the weird outsider in his own party.

Who is this Hopi Sen that PB Tories are so excited about ?

He's someone who called for Liz Kendall to be PM.