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Uniquely, pensioner benefits have been unaffected by the cuts, even though they account for the vast majority of welfare spending. Can't think why.flightpath01 said:
Pensions are not a benefit. They are strangely enough ... A pension.SouthamObserver said:
Entirely coincidentally, public spending on state pensions and other benefits for pensioners has been almost totally unaffected by the cuts imposed on other areas of the welfare budget. Whoever would have thought itflightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
Keep your fingers crossed... You will be old one day. Being old is not a lifestyle choice. You pay NI and taxes all your life for the privilege of becoming old and increasingly infirm and reliant on a fixed income. And on other people to look after you . Of course if you have been say a housewife all your life (as my own mother was) and therefor limited opportunity to save on your own bat, you are even more beholden. There may be many other reasons relating to illness and circumstances that put old people in to penury. It's possible of course that you are too dim to think of them but I had better not go further on pain of being banned.
Take care of yourself, it will all come your way one day. However you will have to wait until 68 thanks to this govt.
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LOL - he would be happier if it was us facing the hate of the world.SouthamObserver said:Existential problems for the Corbyn left today as the whole world lines up against ISIS.
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Has the same happened down south?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/scotland/article4620128.ece?CMP=Spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-thetimes-_-20151121-_-FoodandDrink-_-284494819-_-Imageandlink&linkId=18938492
Or is this one of the big differences between Scotland and England the nationalists like to talk about?0 -
What a good week Labour is having.Scrapheap_as_was said:
It went relatively well ....Scrapheap_as_was said:Popcorn alert...
Ken's been allowed out again - LBC this time...
http://www.lbc.co.uk/ken-in-raging-row-with-labour-colleague-john-mann-120160
Nick Cohen @NickCohen4
Christ Livingstone is sleazy.
https://www.politicshome.com/party-politics/articles/story/john-mann-calls-ken-livingstone-appalling-bigot …0 -
Mann was fair getting stuck into him. Good programme today.Scrapheap_as_was said:Popcorn alert...
Ken's been allowed out again - LBC this time...
http://www.lbc.co.uk/ken-in-raging-row-with-labour-colleague-john-mann-1201600 -
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Corbyn/McDonnell: "Get a UN resolution"
Cameron: "We got a UN resolution."
Corbyn/McDonnell: "Not that UN resolution."0 -
MODS - surely this rather nasty post is worth of him spending some time in the "time out bin" until he calms down / sobers up.malcolmg said:
TUD, I doubt it has a life , low life vermin. Cretins like this are a good reason for euthanasia.Theuniondivvie said:
You've led a sheltered life.Floater said:
Drunk by 9:30 - quite an achievement Malc.malcolmg said:
What an absolute idealistic stupid plank you are. Desperate for idiots to go and either murder other people or get themselves blown to bits. Unpleasant is to much of an accolade for someone like you , living your life vicariously through others deeds whilst you hide behind the sofa cheering.blackburn63 said:
What an unpleasant man you are.malcolmg said:
Then they come back in bits and whinge forever about people not fawning over them.blackburn63 said:
I was being serious, our lads will be itching to get out there. It's unfathomable to 99% of us but they love it.saddened said:
There's a great deal of truth in that. Young men are always keen to fight despite all the evidence showing it's a really shitty experience. Must be hard wired into the human brain.blackburn63 said:
Let's not disappoint our troops Mr Herdson, they didn't join up to spend their lives on Salisbury Plain.david_herdson said:
Doesn't necessarily have to be British boots, as long as those that are there are signed up to the same strategy.richardDodd said:SR..Air strikes first.. and lots of them.. weaken the opposition.. then boots
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What is with your pathetic obsession with the SNP. I am not and never have been connected with the SNP. I give my personal opinion, something you seem lacking in.flightpath01 said:malcolmg said:
You absolutely thick turnip, I am no more socialist than you are intelligent.flightpath01 said:
.JosiasJessop said:
MalcG is actually the Merry Automatic Language Caricature Generator, an ELIZA programmed by drunken first-year students at the University of the West of Scotland.blackburn63 said:malcolmg said:blackburn63 said:
Are you this obnoxious in "real life" or is this an Internet persona?malcolmg said:
Stick to comics, you are obviously not up to intelligent debate.blackburn63 said:
I see the Nats are rewriting history nowmalcolmg said:
Dresden was totally pointless and had no military purpose, just fanatics of carpet bombing trying to promote their failed strategy.blackburn63 said:SquareRoot said:
Dresden was not the end of the war.. and I don't think the we are going to drop atomic bombs on ISIS. Boots on the ground after degradation will be the only way.blackburn63 said:
DresdenRobD said:
The US won with two rather large air strikes in '45SquareRoot said:You cannot win a war with air strikes. History teaches us this.. you need boots on the ground .
I once read about inadequate young men, wearing tanktops in bed sits, alternating between youporn and message boards.
Just so you understand , if they want to join the army then get on with it , don't come back whinging when the big boys have thumped them yet again and expect Cameron and his millionaire chums to give a toss about the cannon fodder.
PS ... And as remarked up thread, the Nats certainly know nothing of history and Dresden.
My opinion is that if anyone joins the army thinking that politicians will care for them or look after them , then they are fools. If they still join then good luck to them but I don't think they are gallant and fighting for me, they have chosen a career and should get on with it, the days of fighting for King and country are well gone , just as stupid people like you are.0 -
Pensions are a benefit for the old, the same way that ESA for those who can't work for illness or disability reasons. There is not longer a significant contributory element: all it currently achieves is something like a residency test. You aren't paying into a pot and earning a return like a private pension.SouthamObserver said:
Uniquely, pensioner benefits have been unaffected by the cuts, even though they account for the vast majority of welfare spending. Can't think why.flightpath01 said:
Pensions are not a benefit. They are strangely enough ... A pension.SouthamObserver said:
Entirely coincidentally, public spending on state pensions and other benefits for pensioners has been almost totally unaffected by the cuts imposed on other areas of the welfare budget. Whoever would have thought itflightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
Keep your fingers crossed... You will be old one day. Being old is not a lifestyle choice. You pay NI and taxes all your life for the privilege of becoming old and increasingly infirm and reliant on a fixed income. And on other people to look after you . Of course if you have been say a housewife all your life (as my own mother was) and therefor limited opportunity to save on your own bat, you are even more beholden. There may be many other reasons relating to illness and circumstances that put old people in to penury. It's possible of course that you are too dim to think of them but I had better not go further on pain of being banned.
Take care of yourself, it will all come your way one day. However you will have to wait until 68 thanks to this govt.0 -
SO, that is pretty pathetic , given racism has always been significantly higher in England as I am sure you well know. It does not really deserve comment other than to say you are scraping the bottom of the barrel, I expect better from you.SouthamObserver said:Has the same happened down south?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/scotland/article4620128.ece?CMP=Spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-thetimes-_-20151121-_-FoodandDrink-_-284494819-_-Imageandlink&linkId=18938492
Or is this one of the big differences between Scotland and England the nationalists like to talk about?0 -
Have a word with yerself. Malc gets a lot of stick on here, with his sobriety questioned, and called names as a matter of course. I like his robust responses.Floater said:
MODS - surely this rather nasty post is worth of him spending some time in the "time out bin" until he calms down / sobers up.malcolmg said:
TUD, I doubt it has a life , low life vermin. Cretins like this are a good reason for euthanasia.Theuniondivvie said:
You've led a sheltered life.Floater said:
Drunk by 9:30 - quite an achievement Malc.malcolmg said:
What an absolute idealistic stupid plank you are. Desperate for idiots to go and either murder other people or get themselves blown to bits. Unpleasant is to much of an accolade for someone like you , living your life vicariously through others deeds whilst you hide behind the sofa cheering.blackburn63 said:
What an unpleasant man you are.malcolmg said:
Then they come back in bits and whinge forever about people not fawning over them.blackburn63 said:
I was being serious, our lads will be itching to get out there. It's unfathomable to 99% of us but they love it.saddened said:
There's a great deal of truth in that. Young men are always keen to fight despite all the evidence showing it's a really shitty experience. Must be hard wired into the human brain.blackburn63 said:
Let's not disappoint our troops Mr Herdson, they didn't join up to spend their lives on Salisbury Plain.david_herdson said:
Doesn't necessarily have to be British boots, as long as those that are there are signed up to the same strategy.richardDodd said:SR..Air strikes first.. and lots of them.. weaken the opposition.. then boots
Ban the banners, I say!
Damn, have I just banned myself?0 -
These are trucks OKC - we have known about this for several days at least.OldKingCole said:I’ve just seen this posted on a Facebook site. Anyone know a) if it’s true and b) where did ISIS get it’s tankers from.
"The United States is now taking out your oil tankers without regard for collateral damage; there goes your only revenue."0 -
Pity we don't have the tools or enough cannon fodder to win on military action.SouthamObserver said:
Yep - I agree with all of that. The way to victory is entirely within our control. This is not Autumn 1938. We are not dependent on others, on enemy mistakes or even on the weather (see D Day). We hold all the keys to victory. It is a question of resolve - to take meaningful military action, to crackdown on militancy at home, to carry on as normal as far as is possible - nothing more.SeanT said:
I'm far from defeatist, I'm manic depressive. And, also, sometimes, just occasionally, quite prescient.SouthamObserver said:@SeanT - I agree that if 600 million cannot defeat 2 million then we are fucked. But those numbers alone demonstrate why this is not Autumn 1938. Self-loathing lefties have been a major issue and problem up to now. What we don't need in addition are apocalyptic, defeatist righties. We will win.
I've also proposed a sensible way of vanquishing Islamism in the West: we slowly make life intolerable for hardcore, extreme Islam - close Wahhabist mosques, ban burqas, prohibit sharia, shutter madrassas, expel hate preachers, ferociously prosecute FGM/forced marriage/cousin marriage/terror apologetics, and so forth.
In the end the nastier and more dangerous Muslims will simply leave, as they will be unable to practise their faith as they would like.
Indeed I predict that in the end something like this must, eventually, happen across Europe. There is no alternative - unless we are ready to surrender our freedoms and lifestyles as we know them.0 -
Ah; so it's road tankers. To where is the oil taken, then, and is the US bombing there?Alistair said:
It's not quite true: the US is trying to minimise collateral damage - an hour before bombing and strafing the heck out of a tanker park they dropped leaflets to tell the drivers to stay away.OldKingCole said:I’ve just seen this posted on a Facebook site. Anyone know a) if it’s true and b) where did ISIS get it’s tankers from.
"The United States is now taking out your oil tankers without regard for collateral damage; there goes your only revenue."0 -
ISIS gets revenue by extracting taxes on businesses in areas it controls, by ransoming hostages, by raiding banks etc. When it took Mosul it stole a big bank's money.Alistair said:
It's not quite true: the US is trying to minimise collateral damage - an hour before bombing and strafing the heck out of a tanker park they dropped leaflets to tell the drivers to stay away.OldKingCole said:I’ve just seen this posted on a Facebook site. Anyone know a) if it’s true and b) where did ISIS get it’s tankers from.
"The United States is now taking out your oil tankers without regard for collateral damage; there goes your only revenue."
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TFS, thanks, it is a pity a few of these absolute cretins ruin the site. This character is one of the worst , absolutey nothing to add to debate whatsoever. They are brave from behind their keyboards.TwistedFireStopper said:
Have a word with yerself. Malc gets a lot of stick on here, with his sobriety questioned, and called names as a matter of course. I like his robust responses.Floater said:
MODS - surely this rather nasty post is worth of him spending some time in the "time out bin" until he calms down / sobers up.malcolmg said:
TUD, I doubt it has a life , low life vermin. Cretins like this are a good reason for euthanasia.Theuniondivvie said:
You've led a sheltered life.Floater said:
Drunk by 9:30 - quite an achievement Malc.malcolmg said:
What an absolute idealistic stupid plank you are. Desperate for idiots to go and either murder other people or get themselves blown to bits. Unpleasant is to much of an accolade for someone like you , living your life vicariously through others deeds whilst you hide behind the sofa cheering.blackburn63 said:
What an unpleasant man you are.malcolmg said:
Then they come back in bits and whinge forever about people not fawning over them.blackburn63 said:
I was being serious, our lads will be itching to get out there. It's unfathomable to 99% of us but they love it.saddened said:
There's a great deal of truth in that. Young men are always keen to fight despite all the evidence showing it's a really shitty experience. Must be hard wired into the human brain.blackburn63 said:
Let's not disappoint our troops Mr Herdson, they didn't join up to spend their lives on Salisbury Plain.david_herdson said:
Doesn't necessarily have to be British boots, as long as those that are there are signed up to the same strategy.richardDodd said:SR..Air strikes first.. and lots of them.. weaken the opposition.. then boots
Ban the banners, I say!
Damn, have I just banned myself?
Then like the cowards they are they run crying to the MODs. Luckily the site is moderated sensibly.0 -
LOL - happy to give you my address malcmalcolmg said:
TFS, thanks, it is a pity a few of these absolute cretins ruin the site. This character is one of the worst , absolutey nothing to add to debate whatsoever. They are brave from behind their keyboards.TwistedFireStopper said:
Have a word with yerself. Malc gets a lot of stick on here, with his sobriety questioned, and called names as a matter of course. I like his robust responses.Floater said:
MODS - surely this rather nasty post is worth of him spending some time in the "time out bin" until he calms down / sobers up.malcolmg said:
TUD, I doubt it has a life , low life vermin. Cretins like this are a good reason for euthanasia.Theuniondivvie said:
You've led a sheltered life.Floater said:
Drunk by 9:30 - quite an achievement Malc.malcolmg said:
What an absolute idealistic stupid plank you are. Desperate for idiots to go and either murder other people or get themselves blown to bits. Unpleasant is to much of an accolade for someone like you , living your life vicariously through others deeds whilst you hide behind the sofa cheering.blackburn63 said:
What an unpleasant man you are.malcolmg said:
Then they come back in bits and whinge forever about people not fawning over them.blackburn63 said:
I was being serious, our lads will be itching to get out there. It's unfathomable to 99% of us but they love it.saddened said:
There's a great deal of truth in that. Young men are always keen to fight despite all the evidence showing it's a really shitty experience. Must be hard wired into the human brain.blackburn63 said:
Let's not disappoint our troops Mr Herdson, they didn't join up to spend their lives on Salisbury Plain.david_herdson said:
Doesn't necessarily have to be British boots, as long as those that are there are signed up to the same strategy.richardDodd said:SR..Air strikes first.. and lots of them.. weaken the opposition.. then boots
Ban the banners, I say!
Damn, have I just banned myself?
Then like the cowards they are they run crying to the MODs. Luckily the site is moderated sensibly.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3327912/Police-probe-Tatler-Tory-scandal-Conservative-party-war-sex-drugs-blackmail-claims-spiral.htmlMP_SE said:I was right about the Mark Clarke story having legs. The police have been called in and there are emails proving Tory staff received allegations of his behaviour. There are person(s) who were leaking the allegations to Clarke and it is important that they are rooted out and expelled.
Yesterday the Mail told how the whistleblower said she sent a 2,000-word email spelling out the allegations of sex, drugs and the blackmailing of MPs to Lord Feldman on Monday and also passed it on to the Prime Minister’s office.
But she said last night: ‘The following day a friend of mine received an anonymous call from a man who quoted part of my letter to her, so it had clearly gone straight back to Clarke or one of his henchman. Then he warned: “If you don’t shut her up, we will.” It was a direct threat aimed at silencing me for speaking out.
What does Tatler Tory mean? Is it a nickname for this one individual, or something wider?0 -
Labour leads the world.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Corbyn/McDonnell: "Get a UN resolution"
Cameron: "We got a UN resolution."
Corbyn/McDonnell: "Not that UN resolution."
No really.
George Eaton ✔ @georgeeaton
Corbyn on Syria: "We welcome the involvement of the United Nations in this crisis, for which Labour has consistently argued."0 -
Your post defines you perfectly, I need add nothing to your eloquent description of your mentality.Floater said:
LOL - happy to give you my address malcmalcolmg said:
TFS, thanks, it is a pity a few of these absolute cretins ruin the site. This character is one of the worst , absolutey nothing to add to debate whatsoever. They are brave from behind their keyboards.TwistedFireStopper said:
Have a word with yerself. Malc gets a lot of stick on here, with his sobriety questioned, and called names as a matter of course. I like his robust responses.Floater said:
MODS - surely this rather nasty post is worth of him spending some time in the "time out bin" until he calms down / sobers up.malcolmg said:
TUD, I doubt it has a life , low life vermin. Cretins like this are a good reason for euthanasia.Theuniondivvie said:
You've led a sheltered life.Floater said:
Drunk by 9:30 - quite an achievement Malc.malcolmg said:
What an absolute idealistic stupid plank you are. Desperate for idiots to go and either murder other people or get themselves blown to bits. Unpleasant is to much of an accolade for someone like you , living your life vicariously through others deeds whilst you hide behind the sofa cheering.blackburn63 said:
What an unpleasant man you are.malcolmg said:
Then they come back in bits and whinge forever about people not fawning over them.blackburn63 said:
I was being serious, our lads will be itching to get out there. It's unfathomable to 99% of us but they love it.saddened said:
There's a great deal of truth in that. Young men are always keen to fight despite all the evidence showing it's a really shitty experience. Must be hard wired into the human brain.blackburn63 said:
Let's not disappoint our troops Mr Herdson, they didn't join up to spend their lives on Salisbury Plain.david_herdson said:
Doesn't necessarily have to be British boots, as long as those that are there are signed up to the same strategy.richardDodd said:SR..Air strikes first.. and lots of them.. weaken the opposition.. then boots
Ban the banners, I say!
Damn, have I just banned myself?
Then like the cowards they are they run crying to the MODs. Luckily the site is moderated sensibly.
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Lolz
Asap Bennett
As expected, socialism with an owl is storming ahead of its iPad alternative among Twitter. https://t.co/3nDQrFkVLO0 -
I noticed the other night that there was a complaint that a local (Labour?) party election was being decided by a coin toss. Just to let you know the same happens this side of the pond too - well, not a coin toss but drawing of straws:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/us/mississippi-house-race-comes-down-to-one-deciding-straw.html?_r=00 -
What does Tatler Tory mean? Is it a nickname for this one individual, or something wider?DecrepitJohnL said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3327912/Police-probe-Tatler-Tory-scandal-Conservative-party-war-sex-drugs-blackmail-claims-spiral.htmlMP_SE said:I was right about the Mark Clarke story having legs. The police have been called in and there are emails proving Tory staff received allegations of his behaviour. There are person(s) who were leaking the allegations to Clarke and it is important that they are rooted out and expelled.
Yesterday the Mail told how the whistleblower said she sent a 2,000-word email spelling out the allegations of sex, drugs and the blackmailing of MPs to Lord Feldman on Monday and also passed it on to the Prime Minister’s office.
But she said last night: ‘The following day a friend of mine received an anonymous call from a man who quoted part of my letter to her, so it had clearly gone straight back to Clarke or one of his henchman. Then he warned: “If you don’t shut her up, we will.” It was a direct threat aimed at silencing me for speaking out.
Clarke was tipped by Tatler magazine as a future minister so was given the nickname Tatler Tory.0 -
Clarke was tipped by Tatler magazine as a future minister so was given the nickname Tatler Tory.MP_SE said:
What does Tatler Tory mean? Is it a nickname for this one individual, or something wider?DecrepitJohnL said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3327912/Police-probe-Tatler-Tory-scandal-Conservative-party-war-sex-drugs-blackmail-claims-spiral.htmlMP_SE said:I was right about the Mark Clarke story having legs. The police have been called in and there are emails proving Tory staff received allegations of his behaviour. There are person(s) who were leaking the allegations to Clarke and it is important that they are rooted out and expelled.
Yesterday the Mail told how the whistleblower said she sent a 2,000-word email spelling out the allegations of sex, drugs and the blackmailing of MPs to Lord Feldman on Monday and also passed it on to the Prime Minister’s office.
But she said last night: ‘The following day a friend of mine received an anonymous call from a man who quoted part of my letter to her, so it had clearly gone straight back to Clarke or one of his henchman. Then he warned: “If you don’t shut her up, we will.” It was a direct threat aimed at silencing me for speaking out.
So meaningless then.0 -
QuiteFloater said:
LOL - he would be happier if it was us facing the hate of the world.SouthamObserver said:Existential problems for the Corbyn left today as the whole world lines up against ISIS.
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You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.0 -
I think MG is extremely funny..very very funny..0
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Except it isn't. The new state pension will require 10 years "contributions" rather than 35.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
An a year's contributions include:
Being on JSA or otherwise seeking work
ESA or similar unemployment benefit
Statutory sick pay
Maternity allowance, or statutory maternity/paternity/parental or similar leave
You're a carer, including a foster parent
In receipt of working tax credits
In education or qualifying training
etc. etc.
We've got to wake up and smell the coffee on this one.
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i do wonder if current events are, unintentionally, leading to a significant realignment of the institutions of Europe. Schengen is crumbling around the EUs heads, the Euro (despite sustained treatment) is still on life support and a step away from failure, free movement is coming under the microscope in European capitals far more than ever before...
Could we be seeing the start of a move to a different kind of EU (probably post-Merkel, if we are being honest here). Might the UK renegotiation be a catalyst for the start of something bigger?
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To neighbouring countries, including Turkey and Iran.OldKingCole said:
Ah; so it's road tankers. To where is the oil taken, then, and is the US bombing there?Alistair said:
It's not quite true: the US is trying to minimise collateral damage - an hour before bombing and strafing the heck out of a tanker park they dropped leaflets to tell the drivers to stay away.OldKingCole said:I’ve just seen this posted on a Facebook site. Anyone know a) if it’s true and b) where did ISIS get it’s tankers from.
"The United States is now taking out your oil tankers without regard for collateral damage; there goes your only revenue."
The networks were built up (actually added to) when the sanctions against Saddam started to bite. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the people who are dealing with IS also dealt with Saddam.
But it's more than just oil extraction: it's refinery as well. The Russians hit tankers taking oil from IS-controlled Syria to IS-controlled Iraq for refining.
There's a lot of money in it, in an area where a lot of money can go a long way. Note it is alleged that even the Syrian regime have been buying oil from IS.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/15203
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/history-of-oil-smuggling-in-iraq.html0 -
So you will still only be able to get it if you have made sufficient contributions. You cannot get contributory JSA if you have only received income based JSA although they are both paid at the same rate, full entitlement to the state pension also requires contributions of a sufficiently high levelTheWhiteRabbit said:
Except it isn't. The new state pension will require 10 years "contributions" rather than 35.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
An a year's contributions include:
Being on JSA or otherwise seeking work
ESA or similar unemployment benefit
Statutory sick pay
Maternity allowance, or statutory maternity/paternity/parental or similar leave
You're a carer, including a foster parent
In receipt of working tax credits
In education or qualifying training
etc. etc.
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Nope. Not Turkey and certainly not Iran. Iran can't even sell it's own oil at the moment.JosiasJessop said:
To neighbouring countries, including Turkey and Iran.OldKingCole said:
Ah; so it's road tankers. To where is the oil taken, then, and is the US bombing there?Alistair said:
It's not quite true: the US is trying to minimise collateral damage - an hour before bombing and strafing the heck out of a tanker park they dropped leaflets to tell the drivers to stay away.OldKingCole said:I’ve just seen this posted on a Facebook site. Anyone know a) if it’s true and b) where did ISIS get it’s tankers from.
"The United States is now taking out your oil tankers without regard for collateral damage; there goes your only revenue."
The networks were built up (actually added to) when the sanctions against Saddam started to bite. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the people who are dealing with IS also dealt with Saddam.
But it's more than just oil extraction: it's refinery as well. The Russians hit tankers taking oil from IS-controlled Syria to IS-controlled Iraq for refining.
There's a lot of money in it, in an area where a lot of money can go a long way. Note it is alleged that even the Syrian regime have been buying oil from IS.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/15203
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/history-of-oil-smuggling-in-iraq.html0 -
This is WTF stuff
All Brussels shopping centres will be closed this afternoon. City2, Westland, Woluwe shopping, Galerie Toison d’or...
11:14 AM - 21 Nov 20150 -
Urrm, why not Turkey? We're talking about illegal dealers in those countries, not the governments.Richard_Tyndall said:
Nope. Not Turkey and certainly not Iran. Iran can't even sell it's own oil at the moment.JosiasJessop said:
To neighbouring countries, including Turkey and Iran.OldKingCole said:
Ah; so it's road tankers. To where is the oil taken, then, and is the US bombing there?Alistair said:
It's not quite true: the US is trying to minimise collateral damage - an hour before bombing and strafing the heck out of a tanker park they dropped leaflets to tell the drivers to stay away.OldKingCole said:I’ve just seen this posted on a Facebook site. Anyone know a) if it’s true and b) where did ISIS get it’s tankers from.
"The United States is now taking out your oil tankers without regard for collateral damage; there goes your only revenue."
The networks were built up (actually added to) when the sanctions against Saddam started to bite. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the people who are dealing with IS also dealt with Saddam.
But it's more than just oil extraction: it's refinery as well. The Russians hit tankers taking oil from IS-controlled Syria to IS-controlled Iraq for refining.
There's a lot of money in it, in an area where a lot of money can go a long way. Note it is alleged that even the Syrian regime have been buying oil from IS.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/15203
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/history-of-oil-smuggling-in-iraq.html
http://ig.ft.com/sites/2015/isis-oil/0 -
My mother-in-law never worked or paid NI, but she gets the state pension.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
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I am off to Brussels on 1st December. Sounds like it'll be a lot of relaxing fun!Plato_Says said:This is WTF stuff
All Brussels shopping centres will be closed this afternoon. City2, Westland, Woluwe shopping, Galerie Toison d’or...
11:14 AM - 21 Nov 2015
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Keep calm and carry on, SO. (I'm sure you will, you seem like a straight up kind of guy. not in the Blair sense)SouthamObserver said:
I am off to Brussels on 1st December. Sounds like it'll be a lot of relaxing fun!Plato_Says said:This is WTF stuff
All Brussels shopping centres will be closed this afternoon. City2, Westland, Woluwe shopping, Galerie Toison d’or...
11:14 AM - 21 Nov 20150 -
Wrong.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
If you are unemployed you receive NHI credits as if you are employed. So you can never work and receive a basic state pension...0 -
would you wish it otherwise?madasafish said:
Wrong.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
If you are unemployed you receive NHI credits as if you are employed. So you can never work and receive a basic state pension...0 -
She might get pensioner credit unless she got NI credits through claiming child support for 30 years or JSA for 30 yearsSouthamObserver said:
My mother-in-law never worked or paid NI, but she gets the state pension.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.0 -
Funny ha-ha, or funny peculiar?richardDodd said:I think MG is extremely funny..very very funny..
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You have to have claimed it for 30 years and be actively looking for work throughout that time. The biggest problem in terms of pensioners is non contributory benefits like free bus passes and TV licenses and winter fuel payments especially when it is not means testedmadasafish said:
Wrong.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
If you are unemployed you receive NHI credits as if you are employed. So you can never work and receive a basic state pension...0 -
The comparison is I suppose the slow grinding of tectonic plates which eventually cannot take the strain any more and suddenly shift. Things were allowed to grind slowly in Belgium and now they have shifted.Plato_Says said:This is WTF stuff
All Brussels shopping centres will be closed this afternoon. City2, Westland, Woluwe shopping, Galerie Toison d’or...
11:14 AM - 21 Nov 20150 -
Yep, no alternative but to carry on. And calmly, of course!dugarbandier said:
Keep calm and carry on, SO. (I'm sure you will, you seem like a straight up kind of guy. not in the Blair sense)SouthamObserver said:
I am off to Brussels on 1st December. Sounds like it'll be a lot of relaxing fun!Plato_Says said:This is WTF stuff
All Brussels shopping centres will be closed this afternoon. City2, Westland, Woluwe shopping, Galerie Toison d’or...
11:14 AM - 21 Nov 2015
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As an OAP who is reasonably, although not very, well off .....finances went badly wrong in my forties ...... I wouldn’t mind if my Christmas Bonus (still £10) and Winter Fuel Allowance were taxed, nor the val;ue of my TV licence. I also wouldn’t mind paying a contribution .... say £10 pa ... for my bus pass. Pensioners using bus passes do at least help to keep routes open!HYUFD said:
You have to have claimed it for 30 years and be actively looking for work throughout that time. The biggest problem in terms of pensioners is non contributory benefits like free bus passes and TV licenses and winter fuel payments especially when it is not means testedmadasafish said:
Wrong.HYUFD said:
You can only get the state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions. You can also only get contributory JSA, which is paid regardless of savings for 6 months, if you have made sufficient NI contributions tooAlistair said:
Yes, they are paid out of contributions from non-pensioners and go to pensioners. Just like how unemployment benefit goes from working people to non-working people.flightpath01 said:
Pathetic and bigoted comment. Pensions are paid out of contributions as they come in. They do not affect the deficit.SouthamObserver said:
The welfare state is being slashed. Except in one area. We all know what that is and why the Tories will not slash it.taffys said:''Let others do the bombing? Allow our allies to shoulder all the burden? So we can avoid spending blood and treasure? This position at least has a logic, although it is also spineless, selfish and cowardly.''
This, I sense, is the growing frustration with Osborne. Many tories feel that we should be in a position now to throw the full might of police and armed forces behind a defeat of ISIS.
Instead we are cutting back on both because Osborne does not have the guts to slash the welfare state and tell the howling liberal elite to go f8ck itself.
The pension age is going up...by 7 years for women. This govt has tackled pension issues that labour ran away from.
We spend a massive amount of money on our armed forces.
If you are unemployed you receive NHI credits as if you are employed. So you can never work and receive a basic state pension...0
