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(Semi-serious question.)
It's a clear target for Leave to attack. Remain will want to do the same to the Leave position, but I think Leave will deliberately keep it broad brush to avoid offering targets.
http://www.nature.com/news/biological-research-rethink-biosafety-1.18747
The funniest part is, its the very same media editors going after Corbyn for his supposed disrespect to QE, who will be tearing Charles to pieces within months of his coronation.
Corbyn's behaviour will be his own downfall.
I hope it meets with a favourable & positive response.
With Remain arguing every spoilt ballot paper with the message "Farage is a cock" written on them is a clear intent by the voter for Remain.
Whilst Leave will argue every spoilt ballot paper with the message "Cameron is a Quisling" written on them is a clear intent by the voter for Leave.
As opposed to an inexact tie?
@GerardAraud: #Brexit. Yes we want Britain in the EU but it is a crisis by the British for the British, that no other EU member considers as necessary.
Gerard Araud est de l'Ambassadeur de France aux Etats-Unis
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/king-charles-majority-of-australians-support-a-republic-instead-of-queen-elizabeths-successor-20151110-gkvwqy.html
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/republican-cause-takes-heavy-knock-in-poll-20140201-31u1a.html
Have we really got to suffer 8 months of this garbage clogging up Twitter and Facebook?
Best only follow funny cat pictures.
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/with_replies.
This is my favourite tweet, on the evening that Cameron pig story broke
@Number10cat: Never been so grateful to be a cat...
Are there regular meetings of experts, not to discuss the latest bio technology and uses, but to discuss best practice for safety in the industry - as there are in computer security? Where experts can get together formally in conference and informally in the bars afterwards and say things like: "You may want to look at the way you filter air: we narrowly avoided a problem because the UV lights lost efficiency before their lifespan" (invented and ridiculous example).
Or does military and industrial secrecy in the industry, along with embarrassment at disclosing issues, preclude them?
IMO any good organisation can learn a great deal from near misses that are carefully analysed and acted upon, at less cost than a real incident. Even better if you can learn from other peoples' near misses.
https://jeb2016.com/bob-dole-endorses-jeb/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=bobdole_twitter_social_20151111_e_v1
This number rises to 30 per cent on the more abstract future, “within their lifetime” – including only 57 per cent of the traditionally nationalist Catholic community.
This number rises to 32 per cent if it meant lower taxes – although only 11 per cent of it involved tax rises.
It also found rising support for direct rule – the end of devolution in the province – amongst the unionist community, although more Catholics supported it (14 per cent) than did Protestants support unification (three per cent).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-34725746
On the question of the date, how seriously does Cameron have to take the Electoral Commissions view that there should be at least 9 months between the passing of the referendum bill and the vote itself?
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/664565063773061120
(Was about Dave saying there'll be only one referendum if we vote to leave, there won't be a rerun)
I really don't see this as a strong argument for "Remain", unless you're a preisoner who depserately wants to vote
The Leave side has unfortunately left it extremely late, probably too late, to establish a plausible alternative scenario. That, therefore, gives the Remain side a free hand to sow Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
When there are two competing groups throwing bogus statistics around, people won't believe either.
But they will stick with nurse for fear of something worse.
This is such an obvious point that I'm just amazed that the Leave side don't seem to get it.
The above is worth a huge sum of money and something that the government nor unis have the ability to do anything about at the moment.
Remain are going for "the status quo but better" while Leave need to prevent a serious alternative.
I'm certainly getting a bit fed up of all the dead cats being thrown around on PB.
It's an astounding number as FBN is not yet universally available.
I doubt the queen cares tuppence about any genuflecting or not by Corbyn, or that some Labour source sees it important enough to leak it.
The Leave side do have one potentially winning (albeit completely bogus) argument, which is of course immigration. If they play that card with sufficient skill and dishonesty, they might pull off a victory. (Of course it would be a bit awkward later).
1) I'm quite certain I don't want to leave if the alternative is an EEA-style deal, which is unambiguously the worst of all worlds.
2) If we're going to Remain, I want as much reform of the EU as possible, along the lines Cameron has proposed. More would be nice, but may not be attainable.
3) I'm still waiting to hear what the third option - Leave but not EEA - is supposed to be. Once I've heard, I'll consider first whether it is plausible, and secondly what the risk/reward balance looks like.
The status quo is on offer for remain though as much as others want to pretend it isn't.
"Regardless of which outcome you support, which outcome do you expect in the EU referendum?"
UK will remain - 77%
UK will leave - 23%
Totally overwhelming. Deep down, everyone knows the UK won't actually leave.
Carbon copy of the Scottish referendum and the GE - in the sense that people who may want to vote one way (and indeed who will walk to the polling station planning to vote that way) will then bottle it at the last minute.
And everyone knows it - as illustrated by that landslide Wisdom Index result.