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This week the Politicalbetting.com / Polling Matters podcast goes international and discusses the upcoming Canadian General Election that takes place on the 19th October. Is the Conservative PM Stephen Harper facing defeat to Liberal Justin Trudeau? How will the NDP do and how similar are Quebec and Scottish nationalism?
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FPT:
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A piece of anecdata: just had a pleasant lady from the council knock on our front door to check the voter registration data for this property.
South Cambs certainly seem proactive on voter registration.
When we apologised for not having filled out the form yet (because we, ahem, lost it), she smiled and said: "If everyone did it I wouldn't have a job."
Edit: and first, and off-topic. Oh well.0 -
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malcolmg said:
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Tax dodgers would not be Labour , much better option for them
What, following Sir Sean to the Bahamas?
He still pays all his due taxes in UK and runs his charity as well. Lot more than you do I bet smart ars*.0 -
FPT in reply to Casino Roylae
In a funny way it doesn't seem that different to my old school form tutor who voted Tory in '97 and became rapidly annoyed by the new Labour government announcing all kinds of changes which didn't seem to have been properly thought through. Politically minded people have a tendency to think that with public servants it's all about ideology. It isn't. It's more often than not about practicality. I don't see a great deal of difference between teachers moaning about Gove and employees complaining about their managers.
On Nick Palmer's point about Corbyn and the Greens, I have to say this 2015 Green voter has not yet been devoured by Corbynmania. I voted Green as a vaguely left of centre protest vote in a safe Labour seat. Miliband's refusal to embrace electoral reform and condemn phone hacking at the Mirror (over which he should have felt vindicated) was symbolic of a cultural malaise in the Labour party that I don't see Corbyn fixing at the moment.0 -
FPT bb63.. Someone can only buy a property if someone else is willing to sell..0
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Is it botgof - day? Buy one thread and get one free!0
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@DPJHodges: Staggering. MPS literally says they couldn't clear Brittan for fear of public criticism.
@DPJHodges: Genuinely cannot believe that MPS statement. Literally says they did not think they had a strong case but feared media criticism if dropped.0 -
As we've gone off-topic, the pub where we have a quiz is under new management. They used stock George Wright anyway, but from November, they'll be stocking three George Wright brews (Drunken Duck,Cheeky Pheasant at al) and six other real ales from a 50 mile radius.
All £2.50 a pint but CAMRA members get 50p a pint off the George Wright brews and 20p off the others. £2 a pint for good beer that eats Boddingtons for breakfast and defecates John Smith (courtsey the Big Bang Theory).
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Poor UKIP's time in the PB.com sun was very short-lived!0
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Fraser is spot on. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11934689/Tom-Watson-had-the-police-in-his-thrall-that-is-the-real-scandal.htmlScott_P said:
@DPJHodges: Staggering. MPS literally says they couldn't clear Brittan for fear of public criticism.
@DPJHodges: Genuinely cannot believe that MPS statement. Literally says they did not think they had a strong case but feared media criticism if dropped.0 -
I'm not convinced teachers as a whole are all that left wing. There was polling that suggested more voted Tory in 2010 than Labour. Neither do I think Cameron would have removed Gove if he felt the entire profession was irredeemably anti-tory.
A lot of people who think teachers are all very left wing seem to live in London. Perhaps there's a certain kind of mentality that's attracted to state secondaries in the capital? Not sure it's quite the same elsewhere.0 -
FPT, UKIP's performance in local by-elections has been a good deal better from September onwards than it was earlier in the Summer. They've averaged 15% in 20 contests. That's probably down to the EU and migrants being in the news.0
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There is some correlation between subject taught and how university lecturers' vote.FrankBooth said:I'm not convinced teachers as a whole are all that left wing. There was polling that suggested more voted Tory in 2010 than Labour. Neither do I think Cameron would have removed Gove if he felt the entire profession was irredeemably anti-tory.
A lot of people who think teachers are all very left wing seem to live in London. Perhaps there's a certain kind of mentality that's attracted to state secondaries in the capital? Not sure it's quite the same elsewhere.
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And I can only repeat my reply... Here in South Oxfordshire we had a similar visit. We are a two man job creation scheme.JosiasJessop said:FPT:
Off-topic
A piece of anecdata: just had a pleasant lady from the council knock on our front door to check the voter registration data for this property.
South Cambs certainly seem proactive on voter registration.
When we apologised for not having filled out the form yet (because we, ahem, lost it), she smiled and said: "If everyone did it I wouldn't have a job."
Edit: and first, and off-topic. Oh well.0 -
I also don't tell people their lives will be better under independence whilst sipping on a pina colada utterly shielded from any potential negative impact upon my lifestyle and well-being that the decision may have, including not even having to visit and look people in the eye.malcolmg said:FPT
malcolmg said:
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Tax dodgers would not be Labour , much better option for them
What, following Sir Sean to the Bahamas?
He still pays all his due taxes in UK and runs his charity as well. Lot more than you do I bet smart ars*.0 -
Never heard about that but I could guess. I'm guessing you'd get a few more Tories in science subjects and very few in sociology.chestnut said:
There is some correlation between subject taught and how university lecturers' vote.FrankBooth said:I'm not convinced teachers as a whole are all that left wing. There was polling that suggested more voted Tory in 2010 than Labour. Neither do I think Cameron would have removed Gove if he felt the entire profession was irredeemably anti-tory.
A lot of people who think teachers are all very left wing seem to live in London. Perhaps there's a certain kind of mentality that's attracted to state secondaries in the capital? Not sure it's quite the same elsewhere.0 -
Perhaps keeping a low profile (not that there's been much choice) is not a bad thing for the time being.Sean_F said:FPT, UKIP's performance in local by-elections has been a good deal better from September onwards than it was earlier in the Summer. They've averaged 15% in 20 contests. That's probably down to the EU and migrants being in the news.
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I blame OGH and TSELuckyguy1983 said:Poor UKIP's time in the PB.com sun was very short-lived!
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With two at least reasonably viable alternatives vs the Tories (as opposed to 1 in our election) and the longer period in government and thus chance of dissatisfaction to set in, surely even getting largest party status will be tough? Time to see what the canadian experts think I guess.0
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Good for you, defending a serial tax avoider.malcolmg said:FPT
malcolmg said:
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Tax dodgers would not be Labour , much better option for them
What, following Sir Sean to the Bahamas?
He still pays all his due taxes in UK and runs his charity as well. Lot more than you do I bet smart ars*.0 -
Funny how we are oh so British and constantly apologetic about being almost incessantly off-topic.
I'm guessing 'off-topic' is a vanilla forums thing that PB chooses to observe mainly in the breach, and I've never found quite how far into outer-space the limit is.
So, on the subject of Canadian politics, about which I know stuff all, I say:
Jackass penguins! Kiwis! Duck-billed platypusses!0 -
I have had something to do with electoral registration myself. There was a very poor response rate for the first set of forms sent out - less than half returned - with the manager bemoaning the money it was wasting us since the forms had to be sent out again. It's funny how you see things differently when you're on the other side.flightpath01 said:
And I can only repeat my reply... Here in South Oxfordshire we had a similar visit. We are a two man job creation scheme.JosiasJessop said:FPT:
Off-topic
A piece of anecdata: just had a pleasant lady from the council knock on our front door to check the voter registration data for this property.
South Cambs certainly seem proactive on voter registration.
When we apologised for not having filled out the form yet (because we, ahem, lost it), she smiled and said: "If everyone did it I wouldn't have a job."
Edit: and first, and off-topic. Oh well.0 -
Oi! One-man and one woman job creation scheme! I'm blaming Mrs J for losing the form.flightpath01 said:
And I can only repeat my reply... Here in South Oxfordshire we had a similar visit. We are a two man job creation scheme.JosiasJessop said:FPT:
Off-topic
A piece of anecdata: just had a pleasant lady from the council knock on our front door to check the voter registration data for this property.
South Cambs certainly seem proactive on voter registration.
When we apologised for not having filled out the form yet (because we, ahem, lost it), she smiled and said: "If everyone did it I wouldn't have a job."
Edit: and first, and off-topic. Oh well.
Chivalry? What's that?
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Luckyguy1983 said:
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Where do the kids from those areas who wouldn't get into the grammar schools go? (not a criticism, a genuine question)
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I guess to the better achieving comprehensives in the nicer areas? There would be places there vacated by those going to the grammar.. It would be in the same town so wouldn't affect them much
So the poor kids would either hi to a grammar or a better comp, and the richer kids would go to the existing good comp or a grammar... And the poor kids parents property would be worth more & the area would improve0 -
O/T Morris Dancer, have you seen the Luftwaffe overhead?
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/luftwaffe-over-yorkshire-again/?utm_source=FB&utm_medium=UKDJ+Facebook+Page&utm_campaign=SNAP0 -
Agreed Mr Dodd but as a free marketeer I don't want to see govt create imbalances with nonsense like help to buy. Right to buy has been here for decades, good or bad, but the govt deliberately inflates property prices to create a false feel good factor.richardDodd said:FPT bb63.. Someone can only buy a property if someone else is willing to sell..
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Sounds ok to me.isam said:FPT
Luckyguy1983 said:
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Where do the kids from those areas who wouldn't get into the grammar schools go? (not a criticism, a genuine question)
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I guess to the better achieving comprehensives in the nicer areas? There would be places there vacated by those going to the grammar.. It would be in the same town so wouldn't affect them much
So the poor kids would either hi to a grammar or a better comp, and the richer kids would go to the existing good comp or a grammar... And the poor kids parents property would be worth more & the area would improve0 -
The Met's side of the Brittan story. Might provide the start of a timeline, if it is to be believed:
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@DPJHodges: Just read Met statement again. Literally says "we knew Brittan was innocent. But we couldn't tell him because of negative headlines".0
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Mrs Gadfly is a Headteacher, and Master Gadfly and Miss Gadfly also teach. As Tories, they have all learned to avoid engaging in political discussion in the staff room, where it naturally assumed that everybody votes to the left.FrankBooth said:I'm not convinced teachers as a whole are all that left wing. There was polling that suggested more voted Tory in 2010 than Labour. Neither do I think Cameron would have removed Gove if he felt the entire profession was irredeemably anti-tory.
A lot of people who think teachers are all very left wing seem to live in London. Perhaps there's a certain kind of mentality that's attracted to state secondaries in the capital? Not sure it's quite the same elsewhere.0 -
@HTScotPol: .@AngusRobertson tells #SNP15 fringe Yes might have won Indyref if @NicolaSturgeon had been in charge, not Salmond. "Who knows?" he says0
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New polls today from Forum and Nanos both give the Liberals a 6 point lead on 37% to the Tories 31%. Final polls in the UK and Israel had it tied. It looks like Harper is done and Trudeau is the next PM of Canada but we shall see0
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What horse Sh** , the guy said once he would like to see an independent Scotland , a private individual. What difference did that make to the debate you halfwit.Luckyguy1983 said:
I also don't tell people their lives will be better under independence whilst sipping on a pina colada utterly shielded from any potential negative impact upon my lifestyle and well-being that the decision may have, including not even having to visit and look people in the eye.malcolmg said:FPT
malcolmg said:
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Tax dodgers would not be Labour , much better option for them
What, following Sir Sean to the Bahamas?
He still pays all his due taxes in UK and runs his charity as well. Lot more than you do I bet smart ars*.0 -
No still leads now 52 to 48 with yougov this week on any rerun voteScott_P said:@HTScotPol: .@AngusRobertson tells #SNP15 fringe Yes might have won Indyref if @NicolaSturgeon had been in charge, not Salmond. "Who knows?" he says
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Pretty much what I said yesterday. He was not interviewed, this was found to be at odds with usual procedure, therefore the case was reopened and he was interviewed.JosiasJessop said:The Met's side of the Brittan story. Might provide the start of a timeline, if it is to be believed:
http://news.met.police.uk/news/lady-brittan-apology-mps-publishes-key-findings-from-report-133664
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The new poll Nick Palmer linked to last night was much closer.HYUFD said:New polls today from Forum and Nanos both give the Liberals a 6 point lead on 37% to the Tories 31%. Final polls in the UK and Israel had it tied. It looks like Harper is done and Trudeau is the next PM of Canada but we shall see
Trudeau lags Harper quite a bit on Prime Ministerial attributes. Tories are also much more likely to vote - we shall see, but as the podcast says, they are not down and out.
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Mercifully, none at all.malcolmg said:
What horse Sh** , the guy said once he would like to see an independent Scotland , a private individual. What difference did that make to the debate you halfwit.Luckyguy1983 said:
I also don't tell people their lives will be better under independence whilst sipping on a pina colada utterly shielded from any potential negative impact upon my lifestyle and well-being that the decision may have, including not even having to visit and look people in the eye.malcolmg said:FPT
malcolmg said:
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Tax dodgers would not be Labour , much better option for them
What, following Sir Sean to the Bahamas?
He still pays all his due taxes in UK and runs his charity as well. Lot more than you do I bet smart ars*.0 -
I'm on most seats:
Liberals: - £25
NDP: +£100
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The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.0
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Which is a big shame and a disgrace really (not on their part, but that they have to). But I'm the same in my workplace, so there we are.Gadfly said:
Mrs Gadfly is a Headteacher, and Master Gadfly and Miss Gadfly also teach. As Tories, they have all learned to avoid engaging in political discussion in the staff room, where it naturally assumed that everybody votes to the left.FrankBooth said:I'm not convinced teachers as a whole are all that left wing. There was polling that suggested more voted Tory in 2010 than Labour. Neither do I think Cameron would have removed Gove if he felt the entire profession was irredeemably anti-tory.
A lot of people who think teachers are all very left wing seem to live in London. Perhaps there's a certain kind of mentality that's attracted to state secondaries in the capital? Not sure it's quite the same elsewhere.0 -
@JamieRoss7: An enormous rat has been inflated outside #snp15 by three constituents of Sturgeon who feel let down by her. http://t.co/KMvLTkGD5s0
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That poll was before these polls and still gave a Liberal lead. Turnout is up on early voting and Trudeau is generally rated as best PMCasino_Royale said:
The new poll Nick Palmer linked to last night was much closer.HYUFD said:New polls today from Forum and Nanos both give the Liberals a 6 point lead on 37% to the Tories 31%. Final polls in the UK and Israel had it tied. It looks like Harper is done and Trudeau is the next PM of Canada but we shall see
Trudeau lags Harper quite a bit on Prime Ministerial attributes. Tories are also much more likely to vote - we shall see, but as the podcast says, they are not down and out.0 -
What a mass of dissatisfaction! She had better watch out.Scott_P said:@JamieRoss7: An enormous rat has been inflated outside #snp15 by three constituents of Sturgeon who feel let down by her. http://t.co/KMvLTkGD5s
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Even Finland selects at 16 and why not have ballots to open new grammars as well as close themMikeSmithson said:The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.
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bb63 When I lived in the Lake District..where I was born..the locals were always complaining about the incomers buying up all the local houses..they went somewhat quiet when you asked them who were the sellers..they were.. a few locals got relatively wealthy when they sold grannies little picturesque cottage and moaned when strangers turned up at the pub.0
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Linking to Canada, Martin Kettle mentions it in the Guardian today, admittedly only in reference to the Scottish situation.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/15/scottish-independence-snp-pro-union
All perfectly fine from a Unionist point of view, but all he does is vaguely mention a new constitutional settlement (good luck with that!) and completely ignores the 'vow' and Smith commission.0 -
Brent Cross looks a right laugh... Embrace the diversity
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You have to congRATulate them on a very original protest.kle4 said:
What a mass of dissatisfaction! She had better watch out.Scott_P said:@JamieRoss7: An enormous rat has been inflated outside #snp15 by three constituents of Sturgeon who feel let down by her. http://t.co/KMvLTkGD5s
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Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??0 -
I was reading one of Thursday's threads, and I saw some of the conversation on here re. education. As someone on the left, I'm well aware that some schools will always be better than others; but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to close the gap between schools, and make sure that as many schools as possible can offer children equality of opportunity, and given kids the best chance at life. Those on the Left I know don't have an issue with parents wanting to do the best for their children; however governments cannot afford to look at society from the individualistic perspective of middle class parents who see private education as the best opportunity for their children. They have to make sure, that for those that cannot afford private education, a wealth of opportunities also exists so they can succeed as well. Someone's life chances should be be pre-determined before they are even born.
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I don't often watch QT but when I saw that I thought it was a youtube moment. Could she be a plant? Perhaps, parties have been known to play these kind of games.LadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
But she may well just be a parent angry at losing her tax credits. Nice to see Tories blaming the BBC as usual. Yep let's just shoot the messenger.0 -
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??0 -
Translation: I only listen to the polls that support my thesis.HYUFD said:
That poll was before these polls and still gave a Liberal lead. Turnout is up on early voting and Trudeau is generally rated as best PMCasino_Royale said:
The new poll Nick Palmer linked to last night was much closer.HYUFD said:New polls today from Forum and Nanos both give the Liberals a 6 point lead on 37% to the Tories 31%. Final polls in the UK and Israel had it tied. It looks like Harper is done and Trudeau is the next PM of Canada but we shall see
Trudeau lags Harper quite a bit on Prime Ministerial attributes. Tories are also much more likely to vote - we shall see, but as the podcast says, they are not down and out.
15-20% of voters have already voted and that was before the big Liberal leads.0 -
It's Philippa 'Us Blues' Roberts.LadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??0 -
That's true actually.MikeSmithson said:The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.
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Correct Mike, grammars were closed by the parents of children who failed the entranceMikeSmithson said:The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.
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That woman on the bus has not read the script... its supposed to be us whiteys who are racist..honestly... some people just feel free to steal our racism..is there no end to it...0
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This is AWESOME !!!
@alexmassie: Comically dreadful 1992 SNP election broadcast. But also revealingly honest: Scots are weak, blind, stupid etc. https://t.co/AEDj6LMo9c …0 -
And it very aptly makes the point about social mobility. We want upward mobility but never address the obvious corollary, downward mobility. Please make that acceptable to the middle classes.blackburn63 said:
Correct Mike, grammars were closed by the parents of children who failed the entranceMikeSmithson said:The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.
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@Casino_Royale - I think you're right that there's some value on the Conservatives in Canada, if you can get odds of (say) 7.0 or more on Most Seats. (Trudeau may of course end up as PM even if Harper does get most seats).0
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People from my sort of background needed Grammar schools to compete with children from privileged homes like Shirley Williams and Anthony Wedgwood Benn.MikeSmithson said:The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.
- M. H. Thatcher, speech to the Conservative Party Conference, 14 October, 1977.
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Prop kids - and jumpers, its brilliantly badScott_P said:
This is AWESOME !!!
@alexmassie: Comically dreadful 1992 SNP election broadcast. But also revealingly honest: Scots are weak, blind, stupid etc. https://t.co/AEDj6LMo9c …0 -
The High Court in London has ruled that the GPS-reliant ride-hailing app used by Uber does not break the law.
http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-news/company--news/high-court-rules-uber-app-does-not-break-the-law0 -
Don't doubt that Mr D, its market forces, its govt interference I object to.richardDodd said:bb63 When I lived in the Lake District..where I was born..the locals were always complaining about the incomers buying up all the local houses..they went somewhat quiet when you asked them who were the sellers..they were.. a few locals got relatively wealthy when they sold grannies little picturesque cottage and moaned when strangers turned up at the pub.
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Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??0 -
I have to say I'm a bit surprised at that decision. You could easily imagine it having gone the other way.Richard_Nabavi said:The High Court in London has ruled that the GPS-reliant ride-hailing app used by Uber does not break the law.
http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-news/company--news/high-court-rules-uber-app-does-not-break-the-law0 -
Correct me if I'm wrong Casino, but you could pretty much construct that position now, de novo, if you wanted to?Casino_Royale said:I'm on most seats:
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I thought it was left-wing public schoolboys and girls who were the ones who hated grammars so much and wanted to close every 'f***ing' one. Couldn't risk working class people getting ideas above their station and not voting Labour.0
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Canada is quite a good advertisement for First Past The Post. The various parties each have regional strength, so it works reasonably well as originally envisaged.0
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I'm not sure of your point tbh. I've never really got social mobility, its the modern expression for the rat race or keeping up with the Jones I suppose.FrankBooth said:
And it very aptly makes the point about social mobility. We want upward mobility but never address the obvious corollary, downward mobility. Please make that acceptable to the middle classes.blackburn63 said:
Correct Mike, grammars were closed by the parents of children who failed the entranceMikeSmithson said:The reason that the grammar schools were phased out was because middle-class parents of kids who failed to 11+ exam didn't like the secondary moderns. The move was politically popular in many areas. Maggie, when EdSec, oversaw much of the change.
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Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James0 -
It's a classic case of the law being out of date. Rather than arguing abstruse questions of definition in the High Court, we should be amending the legislation to take account of the new reality.antifrank said:
I have to say I'm a bit surprised at that decision. You could easily imagine it having gone the other way.Richard_Nabavi said:The High Court in London has ruled that the GPS-reliant ride-hailing app used by Uber does not break the law.
http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-news/company--news/high-court-rules-uber-app-does-not-break-the-law0 -
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
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It's not the children. Where would the teachers go?isam said:FPT
Luckyguy1983 said:
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Where do the kids from those areas who wouldn't get into the grammar schools go? (not a criticism, a genuine question)
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I guess to the better achieving comprehensives in the nicer areas? There would be places there vacated by those going to the grammar.. It would be in the same town so wouldn't affect them much
So the poor kids would either hi to a grammar or a better comp, and the richer kids would go to the existing good comp or a grammar... And the poor kids parents property would be worth more & the area would improve
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Non fee-paying Grammar schools = Evil!runnymede said:I thought it was left-wing public schoolboys and girls who were the ones who hated grammars so much and wanted to close every 'f***ing' one. Couldn't risk working class people getting ideas above their station and not voting Labour.
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Answered the same question above..JackW said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
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I see Cook is 263 not out ....Pro_Rata said:Funny how we are oh so British and constantly apologetic about being almost incessantly off-topic.
I'm guessing 'off-topic' is a vanilla forums thing that PB chooses to observe mainly in the breach, and I've never found quite how far into outer-space the limit is.
So, on the subject of Canadian politics, about which I know stuff all, I say:
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Captain Cook finally goes for 263.0
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !0
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I also thought she was a Labour supporter!isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James0 -
I think the maxim is innocent until proven Jezzbollah.isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
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isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Presume you think this guy isn;t a Tory eitherisam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Tory member Charlie Evans, a politics student at Exeter University, tweeted: "I actually feel sick to my stomach to be a member of the Conservative Party tonight over #taxcredits. That lady spoke for millions."0 -
It just struck me watching it they she might be a plant... Maybe she wasn't. No need to get your knickers in a twistbigjohnowls said:isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Presume you think this guy isn;t a Tory eitherisam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Tory member Charlie Evans, a politics student at Exeter University, tweeted: "I actually feel sick to my stomach to be a member of the Conservative Party tonight over #taxcredits. That lady spoke for millions."
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"Hang on... Looks like that might have been a no-ball by Malik. His foot was well over the line, though he then dragged it back. But this time they didn't check! "
Shocking dereliction of duty. Cook could have batted forever
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See how I put the hex on Cook ...!!!!0
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Very strange, the bowlers foot was miles past the crease then he kind of slid it back... Will be interesting to see what the experts sayPulpstar said:
It wasn't checked
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Just amusing people think this lady is fibbing about who she voted for when she rumbles The Tories lied about Tax Credit Cuts.isam said:
It just struck me watching it they she might be a plant... Maybe she wasn't. No need to get your knickers in a twistbigjohnowls said:isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Presume you think this guy isn;t a Tory eitherisam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Tory member Charlie Evans, a politics student at Exeter University, tweeted: "I actually feel sick to my stomach to be a member of the Conservative Party tonight over #taxcredits. That lady spoke for millions."
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I'm not saying it's the best position ever, just being honest. But offering the NDP at 40/1 for most seats and the Tories at 7/1 is good value IMHO even if it's a loser.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Correct me if I'm wrong Casino, but you could pretty much construct that position now, de novo, if you wanted to?Casino_Royale said:I'm on most seats:
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Don't get me started on no-balls. The use of technology is changing the game. Bowlers are bowling overs of no-balls that are going unpunished cos the umpires only check it if a wicket falls. its bonkers.0
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@GrayInGlasgow: Membership rebellion at #SNP15: party leadership loses on #LandReform as members call for more radical action. 570 for 440 against.0
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Hoots! That's entertaining.Scott_P said:This is AWESOME !!!
@alexmassie: Comically dreadful 1992 SNP election broadcast. But also revealingly honest: Scots are weak, blind, stupid etc. https://t.co/AEDj6LMo9c …
Even then they were peddling the line about escaping the evil clutches of England to join the other 'independent' nations desperate to join the EU.0 -
I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion from the document linked.Luckyguy1983 said:
Pretty much what I said yesterday. He was not interviewed, this was found to be at odds with usual procedure, therefore the case was reopened and he was interviewed.JosiasJessop said:The Met's side of the Brittan story. Might provide the start of a timeline, if it is to be believed:
http://news.met.police.uk/news/lady-brittan-apology-mps-publishes-key-findings-from-report-133664
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I liked this bit:Richard_Nabavi said:
It's a classic case of the law being out of date. Rather than arguing abstruse questions of definition in the High Court, we should be amending the legislation to take account of the new reality.antifrank said:
I have to say I'm a bit surprised at that decision. You could easily imagine it having gone the other way.Richard_Nabavi said:The High Court in London has ruled that the GPS-reliant ride-hailing app used by Uber does not break the law.
http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-news/company--news/high-court-rules-uber-app-does-not-break-the-lawTransport for London is currently investigating whether there should be a minimum five-minute wait between Uber passengers ordering a car and being picked up.
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Well I am neither a Tory or labour, just seemed a bit strange that's all, and all parties have plants on QTbigjohnowls said:
Just amusing people think this lady is fibbing about who she voted for when she rumbles The Tories lied about Tax Credit Cuts.isam said:
It just struck me watching it they she might be a plant... Maybe she wasn't. No need to get your knickers in a twistbigjohnowls said:isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Presume you think this guy isn;t a Tory eitherisam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Tory member Charlie Evans, a politics student at Exeter University, tweeted: "I actually feel sick to my stomach to be a member of the Conservative Party tonight over #taxcredits. That lady spoke for millions."
I am commando by the way0 -
The look on Amber Rudd's face0
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There are plenty of Tory MPs who are worried about the tax credit changes. As I said on the previous thread, there are so many changes coming down the pike, it's not clear to me what the actual impact will be in the round. I'd like more quantitative data, not just edge-case andecdota.bigjohnowls said:isam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Presume you think this guy isn;t a Tory eitherisam said:
Seemed like too obvious a set up...bigjohnowls said:
Why?isam said:
I doubt she voted ToryLadyBucket said:Daily Politics have just shown the clip from last night's Question Time re alleged Tory voter and tax credits. The BBC are going to chew over this, like a Jack Russell with a bone.
I see they are asking for anyone who knows who she is, to get in touch.
Why do I get the feeling I have seen her somewhere before??
Last knockings of the show and she just ranted about a different subject to the one being discussed without asking a question... Very similar to the labour plant in Ramsgate last year vs Diane James
Tory member Charlie Evans, a politics student at Exeter University, tweeted: "I actually feel sick to my stomach to be a member of the Conservative Party tonight over #taxcredits. That lady spoke for millions."0
