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I’ve no information whatsoever but I just wonder whether we might see a high level defection from the red team to the blues. Osbo speaks tomorrow and he’s the sort of guy who could well be behind such a move.

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  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Mandelson
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Dan Hodges? Had he rejoined Labour after leaving the last time?
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    My guess is it will just be someone who donated money to Labour once upon a time.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739
    Surallen
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Blond has tweeted since that it is a Lord
  • isamisam Posts: 42,239
    Southam Observer?
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    EPG said:

    Surallen

    He's already left hasn't he?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    edited October 2015
    SeanT said:

    It better be someone big or I will feel cheated. But I bet it's not REALLY big.

    Kate Hoey?

    Jesus I'm such a geek. I am part of the 0.001% of the population who actually knows who Kate Hoey IS. And cares.

    I agree... Patrick Hennessy anyone?

    That's even if it *is* a defection rather than a resignation...
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    edited October 2015
    Alan Sugar would seem most likely (or maybe not, having seen what Sean has posted)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,253
    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Danny565 said:

    My guess is it will just be someone who donated money to Labour once upon a time.

    Yes, probably. What MP, Lord or MEP would jump ship so soon when there's a chance of reversing Corbyn's influence later on, not to mention all that tribal loyalty to overcome. But 'person who gave money to party x now gives to party y' is notable enough to mention, without being too much a leap for anyone to to make in such a span of time.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739
    flightpath01 said:

    EPG said:

    Surallen

    He's already left hasn't he?
    Pity because he is indeed a Lord.
  • Hertsmere_PubgoerHertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    My wild stab in the dark is that no one will defect.
    It will be a story put out by Labour sources to put off a potential defectee.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    It's a resignation rather than a defection.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Why would anyone defect when the Corbyn problem is only short-term. Even if he clings on to the 2020 General Election, which Labour will more than likely lose, he will be replaced shortly after. If Corbyn was replaced by an equally loony candidate then it may be worth defecting.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,315
    edited October 2015
    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    One of the few really competent ministers in Brown's government.

    Edit: and he was once a SDP and Lib Dem councillor.

    Quite a back story: his mother left the household when he was young, and he ended up living in care.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Adonis,_Baron_Adonis
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,253
    John Woodcock MP for Barrow ????
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    JosiasJessop said:

    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    One of the few really competent ministers in Brown's government.
    Could be.

    Myners isn't a Labour peer I see.
  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    I really hope a blairite mp defects to the Tories - it would really damage the blairite cause in fending off their disempowerment, and they'd either be pretty nailed on to lose a by-election or be made to make the Tories look even more undemocratic than all the other stuff they are doing if they didn't trigger one. Either way, Blairites leaving would be handy.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    oxfordsimon said:

    Blond has tweeted since that it is a Lord

    Boring unless it is a) a true defection and b) a Lord of note, ie not merely an old doner given a seat in the Lords.

    Cameron's already seen the trouble that lot can make.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
    Lab would win Rochdale in a by election IMO
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Isn't he an evil Tory since helping the Coalition?.
    JosiasJessop said:

    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    One of the few really competent ministers in Brown's government.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It's a resignation rather than a defection.

    Yeah. I call this the Fourth of July principle. It is like hearing that three of the first five US presidents died on the Fourth of July. You can be pretty confident that if it were three of the first four presidents, that more grandiose claim would be made instead.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    My wild stab in the dark is that no one will defect.
    It will be a story put out by Labour sources to put off a potential defectee.

    Well the story is only about a resignation anyway - it's just hope for something interesting that makes us hope otherwise, probably.
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Some asian.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    Can't be Lord Hutton?
  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    A LORD? Well colour me ruined in horror.
  • paul110590paul110590 Posts: 2
    It will only be a Peer resigning the whip to become a cross-bencher.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It's a resignation rather than a defection.

    Have you been tipped off?
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Ed Balls
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Welcome aboard, Mr Paul
    paul110590 said:

    It will only be a Peer resigning the whip to become a cross-bencher.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    edited October 2015
    Danny565 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It's a resignation rather than a defection.

    Have you been tipped off?
    Just the rumours doing the rounds in Manchester.

    That they are leaving Labour for as long as Corbyn is leader
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Eh_ehm_a_eh said:

    Some asian.

    Odering takeout and wrote in the wrong window?
    paul110590 said:

    It will only be a Peer resigning the whip to become a cross-bencher.

    I hope the Tories don't make too big a deal of it then, such dullness.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,728
    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739
    kle4 said:

    oxfordsimon said:

    Blond has tweeted since that it is a Lord

    Boring unless it is a) a true defection and b) a Lord of note, ie not merely an old doner given a seat in the Lords.

    Cameron's already seen the trouble that lot can make.
    Has the Lord been promised a job? Innocent face.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,253
    bigjohnowls said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
    Lab would win Rochdale in a by election IMO
    Not against Danczuk - also Gillian Duffy (Bigot gate) is reported as saying she will never vote labour again
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,180
    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    Lord Sewell?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,315
    Plato_Says said:

    Isn't he an evil Tory since helping the Coalition?.

    JosiasJessop said:

    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    One of the few really competent ministers in Brown's government.
    How did he help the Coalition? According to Wiki he became chair of Progress in 2012.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Ed Balls

    Well, the party had already rejected both him and his wife for the top job, some bitterness might be there...
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Like you and Lord Lawson? :wink:
    NickPalmer said:

    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.

  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    Tony Blair!
  • isamisam Posts: 42,239
    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    Good evening, how can I help?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    edited October 2015
    Bear in mind a few conferences ago it was being rumoured as a 100% certainty that Jeremy Browne was defecting from the Lib Dems to The Tories.

    That turned out to be hooey, most defections are surprises, they aren't usually hyped before they've happened
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can't be Lord Hutton?

    As per convention, already a crossbencher.

    Although I suspect that you weren't being entirely serious...
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    Party resignation or shad cab?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,033
    Lord Falconer, off to spend more time with his clients and his money? Yawn
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can't be Lord Hutton?

    As per convention, already a crossbencher.

    Although I suspect that you weren't being entirely serious...
    Not Lord Brian Hutton the judge, but Lord John Hutton former Labour defence secretary
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    NickPalmer said:

    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.

    People stretch the definition of 'high profile' for such things I expect, it need not mean 'someone people will have heard of', more 'someone who can be sort of claimed to be or have been important once'.

    Like how any backbencher causing a ruckus automatically becomes a 'senior' or 'leading' backbencher.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    I thought he did some advisory stuff for them re developing Blairite ideas
    JosiasJessop said:

    Plato_Says said:

    Isn't he an evil Tory since helping the Coalition?.

    JosiasJessop said:

    SeanT said:

    Adonis?

    One of the few really competent ministers in Brown's government.
    How did he help the Coalition? According to Wiki he became chair of Progress in 2012.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can't be Lord Hutton?

    As per convention, already a crossbencher.

    Although I suspect that you weren't being entirely serious...
    Not Lord Brian Hutton the judge, but Lord John Hutton former Labour defence secretary
    Too many Lords Huttons. Where's Sunil's Upper Chamber vs Lower Chamber percentage chart?
  • isamisam Posts: 42,239
    SeanT said:

    Eh_ehm_a_eh said:

    Some asian.

    Tsk.
    In the early 21st Century, when predictive text was a new thing, my mate text a bloke from our football team on Sat night to see if he wanted a lift to the game in the morning, so he typed

    "Alright Brian, want picking up in the morning?

    The blokes name was Brian and he was Asian....


  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Bear in mind a few conferences ago it was being rumoured as a 100% certainty that Jeremy Browne was defecting from the Lib Dems to The Tories.

    That turned out to be hooey, most defections are surprises, they aren't usually hyped before they've happened

    And this is hyping a resignation rather than a defection...therefore it must be a defection as that would be a surprise!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,391
    Just to test the high profile component to destruction, Sean Woodward.

    Nothing like a re-rat.

  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited October 2015
    Whomever it is you can be sure the current labour lot will smear him or her irrespective of what they ha v e achieved.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can't be Lord Hutton?

    As per convention, already a crossbencher.

    Although I suspect that you weren't being entirely serious...
    Not Lord Brian Hutton the judge, but Lord John Hutton former Labour defence secretary
    Too many Lords Huttons. Where's Sunil's Upper Chamber vs Lower Chamber percentage chart?
    Didn't realise John Hutton had been raised to the peerage. Possible.

    Isn't idle speculation fun?

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can't be Lord Hutton?

    As per convention, already a crossbencher.

    Although I suspect that you weren't being entirely serious...
    Not Lord Brian Hutton the judge, but Lord John Hutton former Labour defence secretary
    Too many Lords Huttons. Where's Sunil's Upper Chamber vs Lower Chamber percentage chart?
    Isn't idle speculation fun?

    Indeed, particular now if we are to follow antifrank's advice we cannot take note of subsamples and be or pretend to be excited about them anymore.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,955
    kle4 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.

    People stretch the definition of 'high profile' for such things I expect, it need not mean 'someone people will have heard of', more 'someone who can be sort of claimed to be or have been important once'.

    Like how any backbencher causing a ruckus automatically becomes a 'senior' or 'leading' backbencher.
    Or any lawyer caught with his pants down becomes "top". Its my only hope really.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,965
    Curse the new thread - I actually have a question about the last one. What I don't understand is, if the parties actually knew what was going on and therefore campaigned accordingly, then why did Ed not have a concession speech ready? I can't believe he campaigned in North Warwickshire without thinking 'what the hell am I doing here?'.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    :smiley:
    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.

    People stretch the definition of 'high profile' for such things I expect, it need not mean 'someone people will have heard of', more 'someone who can be sort of claimed to be or have been important once'.

    Like how any backbencher causing a ruckus automatically becomes a 'senior' or 'leading' backbencher.
    Or any lawyer caught with his pants down becomes "top". Its my only hope really.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Surely the bigger rumour would be which PBer could next appear in cameo styling in a Knox/Tremayne outing- I feel there could be a place for a know it all who is always foolishly trying to take the middle ground who gets brutally murdered as a result, to take an entirely random example.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    SquareRoot said:

    Whomever it is you can be sure the current labour lot will smear him or her irrespective of what they ha v e achieved.

    quite right too.

    we'd never do the same about such a TPD.
  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
    Lab would win Rochdale in a by election IMO
    Not against Danczuk - also Gillian Duffy (Bigot gate) is reported as saying she will never vote labour again
    Well if one woman says they won't vote labour that seals it.
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    edited October 2015
    Well according to times, a leading donor has called in a£2m loan.
    In any event Labour do not exist as such any more. What we have is the Stop the War Party whose initials conveniently marry with the Socialist Workers Party. It's the membership which have defected.
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    SquareRoot said:

    Whomever it is you can be sure the current labour lot will smear him or her irrespective of what they ha v e achieved.

    Certainly nothing like the easy ride that Reckless or Carsewell were given.
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.

    People stretch the definition of 'high profile' for such things I expect, it need not mean 'someone people will have heard of', more 'someone who can be sort of claimed to be or have been important once'.

    Like how any backbencher causing a ruckus automatically becomes a 'senior' or 'leading' backbencher.
    Or any lawyer caught with his pants down becomes "top". Its my only hope really.
    Birkhills best known.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
    Lab would win Rochdale in a by election IMO
    Not against Danczuk - also Gillian Duffy (Bigot gate) is reported as saying she will never vote labour again
    Well if it is Danczuk you have a bet will PM you if its him.

    No chance of Tories winning Rochdale.
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Can't be Lord Hutton?

    As per convention, already a crossbencher.

    Although I suspect that you weren't being entirely serious...
    Not Lord Brian Hutton the judge, but Lord John Hutton former Labour defence secretary
    Too many Lords Huttons. Where's Sunil's Upper Chamber vs Lower Chamber percentage chart?
    Didn't realise John Hutton had been raised to the peerage. Possible.

    Isn't idle speculation fun?

    Resignation Bingo.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    David Quantic
    Venn diagram of people who appeared on Morecambe and Wise and people who met Stalin: Denis Healey.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    SquareRoot said:

    Whomever it is you can be sure the current labour lot will smear him or her irrespective of what they ha v e achieved.

    quite right too.

    we'd never do the same about such a TPD.
    Indeed. It pained me so much having to do a thread which featured this observation on Reckless

    "I can't say the word c**t but he's a f**king c**t who deserves a hot poker up his arse"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    bigjohnowls said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
    Lab would win Rochdale in a by election IMO
    Not against Danczuk - also Gillian Duffy (Bigot gate) is reported as saying she will never vote labour again
    Well if it is Danczuk you have a bet will PM you if its him.

    No chance of Tories winning Rochdale.
    Not that I think he will defect, and noting that I think people should have a by-election if they defect, but nothing to say the Tories would have him force one if he did defect. Woodward didn't when he went to Labour, blemishing a rural Oxfordshire seat with two years of Labour representation, they just found him a winnable seat elsewhere come the next GE.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,253
    JWisemann said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Danczuk or Mann please.

    If so and there is a by election good news for Jezza

    Not in Rochdale
    Lab would win Rochdale in a by election IMO
    Not against Danczuk - also Gillian Duffy (Bigot gate) is reported as saying she will never vote labour again
    Well if one woman says they won't vote labour that seals it.
    Gordon Brown dismissed her as well - and see where that got him
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Phillip Blond ‏@Phillip_Blond 27m27 minutes ago
    .@election_data no but I hear it is a lord who is leaving

    Can we change the title yet.
    Major Labour figure and Lord is a contradiction unless it's Mandelson and then it's no surprise or a major impact to Labour, if it was New Labour yes but not this Labour party.
  • paul110590paul110590 Posts: 2
    Resigning from the Labour party is such an easy and obvious thing for a peer to do. They can sit out the bad times as a crossbencher without having to worry about repercussions from Corbyn supporters, and come back into the Labour fold when things improve. There must be numerous Labour Lords who are tempted to do this. Could the first set off a wave?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,158
    Is Ken Follet a Lord?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,756
    edited October 2015
    Mr. 110590, are you suggesting we could see 11 Lords a'leaping?
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Robert Peston ?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,070
    Plato_Says said:

    Like you and Lord Lawson? :wink:

    NickPalmer said:

    The number of high-profile Labour Lords is distinctly limited. Everyone's heard of Mandy, but otherwise I think most people would struggle.

    LOL
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Robbie Travers
    Just got a text for a Conservative Party staffer: "We are logging off early at the Press Team, Labour activists have done our work for us."
  • acf2310acf2310 Posts: 141
    Adonis is a very influential figure.

    No Corbynite, hasn't said a word about Labour on Twitter for weeks, has already done some work with the Government, and is thought to be friendly with Osborne.

    Maybe a resignation now and a move over to the Tories later.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,225
    Tony Blair? He has the vanity and (genuinely) was something of a wettish Tory
  • isamisam Posts: 42,239
    Funny, these scummy activists got a fair hearing on here when they were chasing the Farage's out of a pub in the Spring?

    Anyone got a link to the thread that day so we can compare comments?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    SeanT said:

    More footage of the Newer, Kinder Politics.

    https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/650728050661982209

    The Tories have a conference in a constituency where Labour have a majority of over 21000 and look what happens.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,939
    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Speedy said:

    Phillip Blond ‏@Phillip_Blond 27m27 minutes ago
    .@election_data no but I hear it is a lord who is leaving

    Can we change the title yet.
    Major Labour figure and Lord is a contradiction unless it's Mandelson and then it's no surprise or a major impact to Labour, if it was New Labour yes but not this Labour party.

    Hutton, Byers, Milburn, Bliar: They should all defect.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    GIN1138 said:

    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...

    Blair isn't a Lord.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    isam said:

    Funny, these scummy activists got a fair hearing on here when they were chasing the Farage's out of a pub in the Spring?

    Anyone got a link to the thread that day so we can compare comments?

    If so, I will be very disappointed in us.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,756
    Mr. Isam, more than happy for that,

    The treatment of Farage (and his family) was despicable.
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    Plato_Says said:

    David Quantic
    Venn diagram of people who appeared on Morecambe and Wise and people who met Stalin: Denis Healey.

    A Venn diagram of politicians who had appeared on Morecambe and Wise and who have bared their pussy would be interesting.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,130
    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    More footage of the Newer, Kinder Politics.

    https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/650728050661982209

    The Tories have a conference in a constituency where Labour have a majority of over 21000 and look what happens.
    Yes. How dare they try to demonstrate, albeit in lame fashion (and varying sincerity depending on who you ask), that they intend to govern for all the nation. Bastards.

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,070
    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    More footage of the Newer, Kinder Politics.

    https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/650728050661982209

    The Tories have a conference in a constituency where Labour have a majority of over 21000 and look what happens.
    yep and if any of the female ones are wearing short skirts, well they only have themselves...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,939
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...

    Blair isn't a Lord.
    No... But Mandy is?

    Mandelson was always the "brains" behind New Labour so you'd expect him to be first one out of Corbyns Labour Party...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,496
    GIN1138 said:

    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...

    They'd have to pledge to close Britain's borders first. That ain't going to happen...
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    GIN1138 said:

    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...

    Down their trousers yes it would be, in the ballot box it would be more of a bomb than dynamite.

    Goodnight.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Lord West is my bet given Trident
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    More footage of the Newer, Kinder Politics.

    https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/650728050661982209

    The Tories have a conference in a constituency where Labour have a majority of over 21000 and look what happens.
    No excuse though TBF
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,874
    GIN1138 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...

    Blair isn't a Lord.
    No... But Mandy is?

    Mandelson was always the "brains" behind New Labour so you'd expect him to be first one out of Corbyns Labour Party...
    He's Labour through and through.

    His family are Labour royalty.

    He'll stay and wait for Corbyn to balls things up then topple him.

    Mandelson is the second finest political operator of the last thirty years. He won't defect
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    tlg86 said:

    Curse the new thread - I actually have a question about the last one. What I don't understand is, if the parties actually knew what was going on and therefore campaigned accordingly, then why did Ed not have a concession speech ready? I can't believe he campaigned in North Warwickshire without thinking 'what the hell am I doing here?'.

    I wondered about that. perhaps he was companying their in the expectation it would be a labour win, that he could quote later, as having been a part of? or perhaps it just made geographic sense in that it was mid point between 2 other stops. or perhaps his campaign team know from the poling that, that seat would be marginal, but could not bring themselves to fully explain it to the leader?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Blair and Mandy/Campbell going off to create a new center left party like "The British Democrats" would be dynamite...

    Blair isn't a Lord.
    No... But Mandy is?

    Mandelson was always the "brains" behind New Labour so you'd expect him to be first one out of Corbyns Labour Party...
    He's Labour through and through.

    His family are Labour royalty.

    He'll stay and wait for Corbyn to balls things up then topple him.

    Mandelson is the second finest political operator of the last thirty years. He won't defect
    Presume you are number one?
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    TOPPING said:

    Speedy said:

    SeanT said:

    More footage of the Newer, Kinder Politics.

    https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/650728050661982209

    The Tories have a conference in a constituency where Labour have a majority of over 21000 and look what happens.
    yep and if any of the female ones are wearing short skirts, well they only have themselves...
    Labour's Brownshirts.
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