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Was it? Fair go then, I never watch television so I wouldn't know.TudorRose said:
It was highlighted on the BBC news at 10 last night.HurstLlama said:
Well Tom Watson on TV yesterday publicly disagreed with his leader on defence issues and nobody made a fuss. Possibly that was because too many people were too busy pissing themselves laughing to notice, but even so having a deputy leader say he thought the leader was wrong on a major issue ought to have created a little stir.taffys said:I'm expecting a shadow Shadow Cabinet to operate from the back benches
Trouble is, its difficult for good labour MPs to scrutinise the government when they can be discredited with a simple
'and would you agree with your own leader Jeremy Corbyn that...''0 -
Isn't Communities and Local Govt Questions in the Commons in about an hour? Who's going to be taking that? Just no showing to questions would be *courageous* I guess.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?
Edit: Correction - 2 hours time (2:30pm)0 -
@jennirsl: Strong rumour Chris Bryant @RhonddaBryant turned down Shadow Defence - (if true means Corbyn wanted chap first)0
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Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN
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"Never stop your enemy when he is making a mistake" - I forget who said it originally, probably Sun Tzu or Caesar or Napoleon.SouthamObserver said:
Corbyn is busily messing things up after just a couple of days. He's best left to get on with that.TCPoliticalBetting said:Steve Richards waffling on and on and on, on DP BBC2 today adding no insight and of very limited value. Talking about the GE being years away and lots of time.... re Blairites/Progress "I think they are going to keep their heads down and say nothing".
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Looks like Team Corybn have just chucked out the notion of the 'Great Offices of the State'.0
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Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.0
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Has the shadow minister for Jews, Muslims and other assorted non-Christians been announced yet?0
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I've always found Steve Richards to be very well informed and astute to be honest. So we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.TCPoliticalBetting said:Steve Richards waffling on and on and on, on DP BBC2 today adding no insight and of very limited value. Talking about the GE being years away and lots of time.... re Blairites/Progress "I think they are going to keep their heads down and say nothing".
Really?
He's right. If Corbyn is going to fail spectacularly, then he has to be left to get on with it. In meantime Blairites need to go away and quietly reinvent the Third Way for the 2020s.0 -
Hey, you have Anglea Eagle...SimonStClare said:Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.
Oh..wait.
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Various comments have I think already pointed out it takes 8 years to get German citizenship.JEO said:Germany has upped its estimate of how many migrants will arrive this year from 800,000 to 1,000,000.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/one-million-refugees-could-come-to-germany-this-year-vice-chancellor-sigmar-gabriel/articleshow/48955788.cms
So if we get one in five once passports are given out, we'll get about 200,000 extra on top of the 300,000 net migration we already get.0 -
http://www.gianteagle.com/ProductImages/PRODUCT_NODE_1270/75042553104.jpgLennon said:
Isn't Communities and Local Govt Questions in the Commons in about an hour? Who's going to be taking that?
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That really shouldn't be reported as a rumour. Bryant has been interviewed about it this morning and confirmed that he turned it down.Scott_P said:@jennirsl: Strong rumour Chris Bryant @RhonddaBryant turned down Shadow Defence - (if true means Corbyn wanted chap first)
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Given that Health went to someone with zip experience and no TV abilty- one can only assume that the number of MPs simply refusing to play is very considerable.
The Sky report is hilarious reading - talk about desperately trying to get bums on seats.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?0 -
From a PR perspective, Corbyn has to be seen to be the first one to say something nasty. Which he will at some point. The PM then has licence to respond.TOPPING said:
It has to be.Plato_Says said:Jim Waterson @jimwaterson
Understand Tories spending £££ buying YouTube/Facebook ads for this Corbyn attack vid across UK & not just marginals
Clearly going in brutal is the name of the game.
Jezza is far from cuddly, far from someone that anyone sane can do business with, and deserves no quarter given. EdM I get as a human being. Jezza? Nope.
I would rejoice if Cam on Weds started with a cold-eyed insult and firmed up from there.
This, of course, assumes that Corbyn will indeed do PMQs this week.0 -
Shudder, I wouldn't touch her with yours.Slackbladder said:
Hey, you have Anglea Eagle... Oh..wait.SimonStClare said:Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.
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I dunno, think of Adonis.LucyJones said:
Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN0 -
@PCollinsTimes: We are heading for previously unseen incompetence. IDS was never viable but the people around him were professional. This is something else.0
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Oh ok, best not to worry about it til thenflightpath01 said:
Various comments have I think already pointed out it takes 8 years to get German citizenship.JEO said:Germany has upped its estimate of how many migrants will arrive this year from 800,000 to 1,000,000.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/one-million-refugees-could-come-to-germany-this-year-vice-chancellor-sigmar-gabriel/articleshow/48955788.cms
So if we get one in five once passports are given out, we'll get about 200,000 extra on top of the 300,000 net migration we already get.0 -
You will be praising her photographs next and then we will have to name and shame youSimonStClare said:Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.
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Do we have a Shadow Europe Minister yet? Might be an interesting sign of Corbyn's thinking on the subject.0
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I don't think she'd be interested in anything of mineSimonStClare said:
Shudder, I wouldn't touch her with yours.Slackbladder said:
Hey, you have Anglea Eagle... Oh..wait.SimonStClare said:Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.
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Karen Danczuk promoted to the Lords and in Cabinet? ;-)SimonStClare said:Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.
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TrickettBeverley_C said:
http://www.gianteagle.com/ProductImages/PRODUCT_NODE_1270/75042553104.jpgLennon said:
Isn't Communities and Local Govt Questions in the Commons in about an hour? Who's going to be taking that?0 -
Kelvin Hopkins is a eurosceptic - will be shocked if he doesn't get a role.
EDIT: Unless he's as smart as I expect and he refuses.0 -
But that is why the 'membership' voted for Corbyn. Corbyn signed up all these £3ers to vote for him and they all want to leave Nato and want to abolish trident and want to surrender to Putin and want to abolish the army. It's Watson (who may well turn out to be vastly overrated) who is out of step with the 'Party'.TudorRose said:
It was highlighted on the BBC news at 10 last night.HurstLlama said:
Well Tom Watson on TV yesterday publicly disagreed with his leader on defence issues and nobody made a fuss. Possibly that was because too many people were too busy pissing themselves laughing to notice, but even so having a deputy leader say he thought the leader was wrong on a major issue ought to have created a little stir.taffys said:I'm expecting a shadow Shadow Cabinet to operate from the back benches
Trouble is, its difficult for good labour MPs to scrutinise the government when they can be discredited with a simple
'and would you agree with your own leader Jeremy Corbyn that...''0 -
Yes, I know. It'll be eight years for the Germans and four years for the Swedes.flightpath01 said:
Various comments have I think already pointed out it takes 8 years to get German citizenship.JEO said:Germany has upped its estimate of how many migrants will arrive this year from 800,000 to 1,000,000.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/one-million-refugees-could-come-to-germany-this-year-vice-chancellor-sigmar-gabriel/articleshow/48955788.cms
So if we get one in five once passports are given out, we'll get about 200,000 extra on top of the 300,000 net migration we already get.0 -
Superb article by Henry G Manson. Well said.0
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A Libertarian Rebel @A_Liberty_Rebel
Livingstone drowning in his own contradictions. “The people” don’t want austerity, so they voted for the party offering some. #bbcdp0 -
Just watched the 'Walk of Silence'. I'm still not 100% that I'm not in a Back To The Future 2 type dark alternate timeline. Has this really happened?
Scotland's left won't be Coming Back To Labour (who needs a crappier, less-proven English version of what you've already got?). There are dozens of English and Welsh swing seats - Corby, Winchester, Bolton West, Rossendale etc., you know the drill - which will remain/become Tory. Some trad Lab seats may just even go UKIP, with a decent enough candidate and barring implosions.
That's before even going into the boundary changes which will reduce the remaining inner-city Labour strongholds still further. And the off-putting fact that a Labour government would necessarily be at least in some kind of arrangement with the SNP bloc.
But hey, they're won back the Green vote, so that's fine.0 -
Corbyn's quite fortunate that Ian Murray's staying on as Shadow Scottish Secretary. Had he gone, Labour would be reduced to shadowing Mundell with (presumably) a Scot representing an English seat - though I don't know how many of those there are.rottenborough said:
What's the rush. I think Wales will do ok without a shadow for a few more hours.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?0 -
Trouble is, Corbyn may fail so spectacularly that there might not be a party left the the "Blairites" to take back in the 2020's.rottenborough said:
I've always found Steve Richards to be very well informed and astute to be honest. So we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.TCPoliticalBetting said:Steve Richards waffling on and on and on, on DP BBC2 today adding no insight and of very limited value. Talking about the GE being years away and lots of time.... re Blairites/Progress "I think they are going to keep their heads down and say nothing".
Really?
He's right. If Corbyn is going to fail spectacularly, then he has to be left to get on with it. In meantime Blairites need to go away and quietly reinvent the Third Way for the 2020s.
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'Promising not to get involved with wars' (which to my knowledge Corbyn hasn't done) is one thing. Being considerably more circumspect about sending our troops into whatever flea pit the US has decided to destabilise this month is quite another. The former would be to considerably reduce the role and capability of the armed services on a long term basis, and naturally armed service personnel would be very much against this. I can only imagine the latter would be privately welcomed, though the admirable loyalty of our armed service personnal would preclude comment.HurstLlama said:
Quite, and to think otherwise is to totally misunderstand the people in our armed forces.taffys said:You think a leader promising not to get involved with wars will go down badly with the British Armed forces after the last 15 years or so?
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RIP Brian Close
The most obdurate Yorkshireman ever. And that is saying something.0 -
Apparently she also said she didn't have enough experience to do DECC... but Education Sec is okay???
It's bizarre.LucyJones said:
Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN0 -
Does it matter? The damage to labour is done and the crackpot lefty genie is out of the bottle.Cromwell said:The Corbyn meltdown is so just predictable ; he never intended to be leader and was never remotely qualified but he got caught up by the messianic gullibility of the Leftist voters ; now he must pay the price ...public humiliation and forced resignation ...Furthermore , I suspect it going to come much sooner than any of us ever imagined
I think however you may be wrong. The New Socialist Labour membership will keep Corbyn in power. I can however foresee civil war within this party in the meantime.0 -
I rather suspect that some would. Paging Sunil ...Plato_Says said:
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?X said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN0 -
Permanent EC residence which allows you to move around and settle in other parts of the EU is 5 years in Germany.flightpath01 said:
Various comments have I think already pointed out it takes 8 years to get German citizenship.JEO said:Germany has upped its estimate of how many migrants will arrive this year from 800,000 to 1,000,000.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/one-million-refugees-could-come-to-germany-this-year-vice-chancellor-sigmar-gabriel/articleshow/48955788.cms
So if we get one in five once passports are given out, we'll get about 200,000 extra on top of the 300,000 net migration we already get.0 -
Has Armando Iannucci taken over the running of the Labour party?
I only ask as so far it looks like an episode of Veep.0 -
I think I'm able to see eight years ahead; it's a shame others can't. Germany has behaved disgracefully. That's assuming people use legal means to move to their country of choice, which is not guaranteed.JEO said:
Yes, I know. It'll be eight years for the Germans and four years for the Swedes.flightpath01 said:
Various comments have I think already pointed out it takes 8 years to get German citizenship.JEO said:Germany has upped its estimate of how many migrants will arrive this year from 800,000 to 1,000,000.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/one-million-refugees-could-come-to-germany-this-year-vice-chancellor-sigmar-gabriel/articleshow/48955788.cms
So if we get one in five once passports are given out, we'll get about 200,000 extra on top of the 300,000 net migration we already get.0 -
According to reports - he's been saying different things to different people.Richard_Tyndall said:
Do we have a Shadow Europe Minister yet? Might be an interesting sign of Corbyn's thinking on the subject.
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There's some complex maths in working out the solar energy feed in tariffs.Plato_Says said:Apparently she also said she didn't have enough experience to do DECC... but Education Sec is okay???
It's bizarre.LucyJones said:
Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN0 -
I'm pretty sure there's a spreadsheet the civil service can give you that does it for you...rottenborough said:
There's some complex maths in working out the solar energy feed in tariffs.Plato_Says said:Apparently she also said she didn't have enough experience to do DECC... but Education Sec is okay???
It's bizarre.LucyJones said:
Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN
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Corbyn has been invited to join the Privy Council.
Wonder whether he will accept....0 -
What a shambles.
That, incidentally, is far more deadly to electoral chances than any policy position.0 -
EdM is looking like Nelson effing Mandela in comparison.TOPPING said:
It has to be.Plato_Says said:Jim Waterson @jimwaterson
Understand Tories spending £££ buying YouTube/Facebook ads for this Corbyn attack vid across UK & not just marginals
Clearly going in brutal is the name of the game.
Jezza is far from cuddly, far from someone that anyone sane can do business with, and deserves no quarter given. EdM I get as a human being. Jezza? Nope.
I would rejoice if Cam on Weds started with a cold-eyed insult and firmed up from there.
And he's an absolute gift in terms of bite-sized bonkersness (a lot which, to be fair, will be taken massively out of context) that could've been designed for a well-orchestrated social media campaign.
And the thing is - previously, the right-wing press always had to keep bits and bobs of dirt in reserve for deployment at the right moment. Now they can go hog wild, there's a bottomless pit of material for attack ads here.
If it comes to an election, Labour will be outgunned cash-wise. And the tiresome Twitter Jezbollah will actively put people off. What a disaster.
(And - to be clear - I quite like Jeremy Corbyn!)0 -
As Lennon has pointed out there is 'Communities & Local Govt' Qs in the HoC in a couple of hours....not that long to master a brief......rottenborough said:
What's the rush. I think Wales will do ok without a shadow for a few more hours.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?0 -
Says it all about Labour's view of education - that it's just about childcare.Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN
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Has the Shadow Minister for Silly Walks been announced yet?
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Just loving this.. all as predicted..getting a little bored with so much popcorn tho.. might have to get an alternative..0
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Sky are smarting because Corbyn is ignoring them. It's war vs their paymaster Murdoch.Plato_Says said:Given that Health went to someone with zip experience and no TV abilty- one can only assume that the number of MPs simply refusing to play is very considerable.
The Sky report is hilarious reading - talk about desperately trying to get bums on seats.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?
Some of you should take a step back and watch and listen. This is a massive political event. No, it's not the end of Labour. It's a huge battle underway. I don't actually think Corbyn will win it, but he's re-setting the political agenda. One example: would Cameron be in Lebanon today were it not for Corbyn? No.0 -
Lucy does have a Chemistry degree from Oxford.rottenborough said:
There's some complex maths in working out the solar energy feed in tariffs.Plato_Says said:Apparently she also said she didn't have enough experience to do DECC... but Education Sec is okay???
It's bizarre.LucyJones said:
Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN
Lucy -- if she had accepted -- would have been the first politician with a science degree to run DECC.
(I would have thought a science degree should be a prerequisite for DECC).
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Apparently Hilary Benn spent a month backpacking round South America, and also is really good at accents.LucyJones said:
Winning 60% in the leadership conts&MarkHopkins said:dugarbandier said:
I saw the walk, just can't fathom what it has to do with North KoreaTheScreamingEagles said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/labour-leader-corbyns-long-walk-of-silencedugarbandier said:
?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Am just watching the Corbyn long walk to silence video.
Blimey.
Eventually, Mr Corbyn said to a staffer: "There are people bothering me."
It's very North Korean.
Corbyn has never faced real challenge to his beliefs and has therefore built-up a false ego of his own superiority.
Now, when facing legitimate questions, his response is to attempt to "eliminate" the questioners rather answer the questions.
Very authoritarian; like N Korea.
How can women expect to be taken seriously in politics when they come out with stuff like this? Do men ask to be transport minister "because they like trains"?Plato_Says said:
Toby Young @toadmeister
Lucy Powell turned down DECC, saying "she wanted something to do with childcare”. So made Shadow Education Secretary bit.ly/1NrobQN
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@Floater Just seen that DT headline - what a corker.
On Trickett
Jon Trickett, Labour’s shadow minister without portfolio and deputy party chair, is expected to be named shadow communities secretary and given a role looking at constitutional reform, reports Ben Riley-Smith.
However the Hemsworth MP is still yet to be unofficially named – with less than two hours to go before whoever takes the communities role needs to answer questions in Parliament.
He has been giving advice to Mr Corbyn’s team throughout the campaign.0 -
Sure. Cameron decided to visit Lebanon on Monday after mid-day on Saturday.....no security prep to worry about there......Estobar said:
One example: would Cameron be in Lebanon today were it not for Corbyn? No.Plato_Says said:Given that Health went to someone with zip experience and no TV abilty- one can only assume that the number of MPs simply refusing to play is very considerable.
The Sky report is hilarious reading - talk about desperately trying to get bums on seats.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?
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Is that why he's ignoring Channel 4's Michael Crick too?Estobar said:
Sky are smarting because Corbyn is ignoring them. It's war vs their paymaster Murdoch.Plato_Says said:Given that Health went to someone with zip experience and no TV abilty- one can only assume that the number of MPs simply refusing to play is very considerable.
The Sky report is hilarious reading - talk about desperately trying to get bums on seats.CarlottaVance said:We still don't have:
Shadow Defence Secretary ?
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary ?
Shadow Energy Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment ?
Shadow Communities Secretary ?
Shadow Culture Secretary ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Wales ?0 -
Estobar.. Do you think the PM just orders up a jet to take him to the Lebanon in order to score some political point over what has turned out to be a total cretin.. You obviously have no idea about the security effort involved and the planning ahead for such a trip..Stick to waving your little red banner... much easier0
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Again?rottenborough said:Flint out
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but on balance I am relieved to be spared her pontifications.0 -
get to specsaversSimonStClare said:Ahh, Caroline Flint has gone – shadow cabinet getting very low on talent and totty now.
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Sound response. Unfortunately you are dealing with someone who is clearly one skittle short of a juggling act.Cyclefree said:
The point you are missing is that you are not comparing different types of representation. Someone who strikes is breaching their contract. Anyone who breaches a contract is normally liable for damages. That is the law which applies to all. We accept that people should have a right to strike but it is important to have clear rules which ensure that this right to strike - to break one's contract, one's legally binding promise - should be entered into after a fair ballot of the majority because harm is being caused to the employer and others and they are not able to recover damages, unlike other parties to a contract where the other party breaches it.NickPalmer said:
I've always supported PR, since I think that FPTP delivering governments on 35-40% of the vote is a recipe for permanent trouble. But my point was that it's hypocritical for a government elected on less than 40% of the vote, allowing them to send us to war or do pretty much anything else it likes, to play the "unrepresentative" card against people who want to take industrial action for a couple of days on the same basis.richardDodd said:wow Suddenly NNXMPX2 has woken up now he doesn't care for the system that worked so well for his buddies Tone and Gordy ... who,d a thunk it
I am affected when the tube workers go on on strike. I don't get a vote. I don't get compensation for the time and money spent. I don't get back the time I was not able to have with my family.
Unions forget that others are affected and that those others are often much worse off than the strikers or less able to mitigate the damage suffered.
Unions are not on a par with national government though some of the union leaders seem to think they should be.
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Err, hello. The biggest minority faith in Britain is Catholicism. We're not going to be lumped in with CoE types, thank you very much. We want - DEMAND - our own Minister to make sure that our particular views on transubstantiation, original sin, the Nicene creed and the price of fish are properly taken into account in government policy. Plus we want a special law saying that we mustn't be offended and a special monitoring team to make sure that rude things said about us are recorded and people told off for being Catholicophobic.JEO said:Has the shadow minister for Jews, Muslims and other assorted non-Christians been announced yet?
Oh and the price of incense should be lowered and we need to have lots of money given to us for all the babies we have. Lots of money. Lots and lots. Because if you don't you are being "authoritarian" (copyright: H Manson, the Labour Party (currently in receivership)).
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I'll give you a clue then - its north of the 38th Parallel.kle4 said:
A sure sign of how degenerate our political classes have become, that they would stoop to such low behaviours. I love it.TheScreamingEagles said:Justine Greening for next Prime Minister, she's got my vote.
She put in 80s pop song titles into a conversation with Nick Clegg
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Corbyn's Abba tribute act suggestion, shows he is the right man for the country, no question. I'm not sure which country...
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Don't forget the clenched fist and do keep reminding him to wash that Che T-shirt every now and again.richardDodd said:Estobar.. Do you think the PM just orders up a jet to take him to the Lebanon in order to score some political point over what has turned out to be a total cretin.. You obviously have no idea about the security effort involved and the planning ahead for such a trip..Stick to waving your little red banner... much easier
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Haven't we already had the Minister for Silly Walks?MarkHopkins said:
Has the Shadow Minister for Silly Walks been announced yet?
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Wasn't match.com one of the principle means of communication in organizing the uprising in Libya? Why on earth are detainees given access to the internet, if this is not indeed a joke article?Plato_Says said:And in more sensible news than the Labour Shad Cab http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/11862475/Guantanamo-Bay-detainee-has-online-dating-profile-is-detained-but-ready-to-mingle.html
A detainee at Guantanamo Bay has an online dating profile and is "detained but ready to mingle", according to his lawyer.
Muhammad Rahim al-Afghani, an Afghan who has been held by the CIA since 2007 and is classified as a "high-value" detainee, appears to have an account on the dating site Match.com. In a letter to Carlos Warner, his lawyer, the man described by the US government as a "close associate" of Osama bin Laden also expresses concern over the hack of adultery website Ashley Madison.
"This is terrible news about Ashley Madison, please remove my profile immediately!!!" al-Afghani wrote in a letter dated 21 July. "I'll stick with Match.com even though you say it is for old people. There is no way I can do Tinder in here."0 -
Not one of their usual good efforts. Rather relies on taking the words absolutely literally, when one can accept the man is electable in a constituency or party sense, but still think, right or wrong, that he is unelectable to the wider public. Perfectly straightforward and understandable, not the sort of inadvertent but real hypocrisy or idiocy they normally point out.rottenborough said:0 -
I'm unbanned, as well as nearly unmanned by all of Corbyn's/Labours antics.0
