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  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2015
    Deleted!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,915

    Make Boris minister for Women

    Make him minister for HS2 and Heathrow expansion.

    http://www.gatwickobviously.com
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,723
    OT Much appreciation for Edmundintokyo's Greasemonkey widget thing to deal with the recent vexing issue of stacked quotes; much more readable now.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    DavidL There is every chance the Tories will need to protect their rightflank following the referendum, especially if it is a narrow In producing a risk Out Tory voters will go to UKIP to keep fighting the fight
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    edited May 2015
    davidherdson Wasn't Heath also just about the favourite against Macleod in 1965?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2015
    Another spreadsheet for PBers — LD vote share retention, 2015 vs 2010, lowest to highest:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9D1CqtjKAjfeXKp0TznN8_cJUiuWHafIB67sV1kFqo/edit#gid=0

    In just 34 seats did the LDs retain more than two-thirds of their 2010 vote share.
  • FlightpathlFlightpathl Posts: 1,243
    HYUFD said:

    davidherdson Wasn't Heath also just about the favourite against Macleod in 1965?

    Wasn't that Regie Maudling? Enoch told the tale of Macleod ducking it against Home in the last magic circle 'election'.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,307
    edited May 2015

    HYUFD said:

    davidherdson Wasn't Heath also just about the favourite against Macleod in 1965?

    Wasn't that Regie Maudling? Enoch told the tale of Macleod ducking it against Home in the last magic circle 'election'.
    It was Maudling in 1965. Not sure what you mean by 'ducking it' but Iain Macleod refused to serve under Home in 1963 (as did Enoch) and as editor of the Spectactor authored that excoriating attack on the 'magic circle' (his phrase) that had propelled Home to the Premiership.

    PS It was RAB Butler who, indecisive and gutless as ever, refused to fire the gun. Had he too declined office under Home, he himself would have become PM.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323

    Scott_P said:

    @amolrajan: Word-perfect @guardian leader on Labour's flawed selection process for leader. Superb job, whoever wrote it: http://t.co/hGMONjn46Z

    Word-perfect, possibly, but (in the true Guardian tradition) completely impractical.

    Labour should put its thinking head on before it is too late. It should have agreed on an experienced interim leader who commands general confidence to take the party past the Scottish elections and the European referendum and into 2017, while preparing Labour – and its electoral system – for a proper contest between its next generation of leadership candidates in time for 2020. Ideally it should still do this.

    Fine - except that there is no mechanism to do so.
    Is there anything stopping you launching your campaign for interim leader? Get your nominations on that basis?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    FlightPathL Yes, Maudling you are right, but I don't think he was favourite against Heath
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    Edit: Actually the favourite won the 2003 Tory leadership election, granted, he was the only one who ran.

    IIRC Davis was the early favourite before the details of the coronation emerged.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,110


    IIRC Davis was the early favourite before the details of the coronation emerged.

    I thought Davis backed Howard from the start.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3225127.stm

    "The vote sparks the fourth Tory leadership election in eight years, with former home secretary Michael Howard emerging as the strong favourite.

    One possible rival, David Davis, has already said he is backing Mr Howard in the leadership contest, saying he had decided to turn down requests to run himself."
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039


    IIRC Davis was the early favourite before the details of the coronation emerged.

    I thought Davis backed Howard from the start.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3225127.stm

    "The vote sparks the fourth Tory leadership election in eight years, with former home secretary Michael Howard emerging as the strong favourite.

    One possible rival, David Davis, has already said he is backing Mr Howard in the leadership contest, saying he had decided to turn down requests to run himself."
    Yes, sorry what I meant was that he was favourite whilst IDS was under siege.

    But sensibly Davis realised that leading the party to defeat in 2005 would not be a good look so decided he would claim the crown later. Ahem.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    FPT:
    "It is astounding that Labour still doesn't get this simple point. Brown's coronation makes him, AFAIK, the only PM in the last 100-odd years who did not have to face any sort of contested election to attain that office"

    Eden, McMillan ?
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    edited May 2015
    It looks like a bomb attack has really messed up the Iranian embassy in Damascus Wednesday late afternoon UK time. The explosion was rather large.

    It will be interesting who the casualties were as its a key co-ordination point for the Iranian effort inside Syria. Insurgents are obviously suspected but it should be noted plenty in the Assad camp are concerned about the Iranians and how much power they have including a lot of officials and militias that really answer to them not Bashar Assad.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    WG Yes, Howard was always the favourite then and the favourite of Tory voters
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Scott_P said:

    @maitlis: Alex salmond confirms how crucial it is to be on the " yes" side of any referendum question. Power of positivity #Newsnight

    @Samuelsdale: @maitlis really? Both Scot & AV referendums both won by No campaigns in last parliament.

    What an idiot Maitlis is
    Why ? I don't think it is her opinion. She is simply quoting Salmond.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    Yokel Well if it means the Iranians getting more involved that will be interesting, it is already Iran who are providing much of the muscle behind both Assad and the Iraqi government in terms of hardware, military officers, special forces and Shia militias
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Election facts:

    Labour polled more votes than the LDs in 561 constituencies. The LDs polled more votes than Labour in 70 seats.

    In just 23 seats did the LDs outpoll Labour by more than 10,000 votes:

    Dorset Mid & Poole North, Fife North East, Sutton & Cheam, St Ives, Devon North, Chippenham, Edinburgh West, Kingston & Surbiton, Torbay, Cornwall North,
    Ross Skye & Lochaber, Lewes, Dunbartonshire East, Inverness Nairn Badenoch & Strathspey, Norfolk North, Cheltenham, Thornbury & Yate, Yeovil, Wells, Gordon,
    Eastbourne, Twickenham, Westmorland & Lonsdale.

    Labour outpolled the LDs by more than 10,000 votes in 368 divisions; by more than 20,000 votes in 93 constituencies.

    UKIP polled more votes than the LDs in 490 constituencies. The LDs more than UKIP in 123.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    HYUFD said:

    Yokel Well if it means the Iranians getting more involved that will be interesting, it is already Iran who are providing much of the muscle behind both Assad and the Iraqi government in terms of hardware, military officers, special forces and Shia militias

    They pretty much cant get any more involved in Syria than they already are other than a) sending in airstrikes (logistically they are not well geared for strikes over that range and have an IFF problem with non-friendly hardware up the air in the region) and/or b) landing mainline forces. Exactly how they bring those in in any numbers is a problem in itself. When Palmyra airbase falls they've lost one of their main air transit points.

    Given that, the actual bodies they can bring are already largely in place, there isn't a major injection even from Hizbollah, they can short term boost but to some extent are just replacing the dead. The insurgents don't seem to have as much of a line fighting resources problem.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    UKIP polled more votes than the LDs in 490 constituencies. The LDs more than UKIP in 123. UKIP polled more votes than Labour in 106 seats out of 613 where they both stood. UKIP polled more votes than the Conservatives in 61 constituencies out of 623 where both stood.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    AndyJS said:

    UKIP polled more votes than the LDs in 490 constituencies. The LDs more than UKIP in 123. UKIP polled more votes than Labour in 106 seats out of 613 where they both stood. UKIP polled more votes than the Conservatives in 61 constituencies out of 623 where both stood.

    Figures which show how inefficient the UKIP vote was. The LDs won eight times as many seats.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    Yokel Iran has an army of over 500,000 and over 1 million in reserves it also has a larger population than Iraq and Syria combined, if it wished to mobilise really wipe out ISIS it probably could do so, though it would be a bloody and long conflict
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    surbiton said:

    Scott_P said:

    @maitlis: Alex salmond confirms how crucial it is to be on the " yes" side of any referendum question. Power of positivity #Newsnight

    @Samuelsdale: @maitlis really? Both Scot & AV referendums both won by No campaigns in last parliament.

    What an idiot Maitlis is
    Why ? I don't think it is her opinion. She is simply quoting Salmond.
    Arguably it might not have been as close then if it was phrased differently. Winning isn't the sole metric.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    UKIP polled more votes than the LDs in 490 constituencies. The LDs more than UKIP in 123. UKIP polled more votes than Labour in 106 seats out of 613 where they both stood. UKIP polled more votes than the Conservatives in 61 constituencies out of 623 where both stood.

    Figures which show how inefficient the UKIP vote was. The LDs won eight times as many seats.

    Precisely.
  • MetatronMetatron Posts: 193
    7/4 on an Eu Refrendum in 2016 might be a viable bet but surely the 100/1 on a 2015 refendum has to be worth a few quid on
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