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  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    rottenborough said:

    Scott_P said:

    @michaelsavage: Jon Cruddas resigns from shadow Cabinet to begin inquest into Labour's defeat. An initial report will be prepared for Labour conference.

    Implies he's not standing for leadership.
    Is it the same inquest as he had 5 years ago?
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Oh my. That's a corker of one eyedness
    BannedInParis said:

    "Shabana Mahmood - Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury"

    Horrible woman. At Oxford with me and always one eye on, well, this.

    I liked her most for protesting the kosher food aisle in my local tescos, though.

  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Scott_P said:

    @wallaceme: Sorry, Chris Leslie - CHRIS LESLIE - is Shadow Chancellor?? This isn't a different Chris Leslie, right? #reshuffle

    There are lightweights and then there is Chris leslie.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,802
    Tissue_Price said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm backing Simon and Stella

    https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/597710129337921536

    How the hell does the ovaries criteria get met? If a man wins the leadership all male candidacies for Deputy Leader are effectively void?
    Karen Danczuk gets it in that case
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Shadow Scotland.....Ian Murray....

    Thats a shocker.... ;)
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Scott_P said:

    @GuidoFawkes: New shadow chancellor Chris Leslie has never had a job in the private sector. Was Gordon Brown's leadership campaign manager. #SameOldLabour

    He gained a BA in Politics & Parliamentary Studies in 1994 and an MA in Industrial and Labour Studies in 1996 from the University of Leeds. From 1994 to 1996 he was an office administrator, going on to become a political research assistant in Bradford from 1996-97. He was elected to Parliament a month before his 25th birthday.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,859
    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Hilary Benn confirmed as shadow foreign secretary as predicted in FT: http://t.co/32F9vs3MYV

    @GuidoFawkes: Big diss for Liz Kendall from Harman. She's not given a proper Shad Cab job: http://t.co/8aukLEhqHz

    Lucy Powell keeps her job. Some PBers will be choking on their lunch at this very moment.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    On the shadow cabinet - haven't they all got their old jobs back, apart from Balls and Alexander?
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Did Ivan Dog Licences keep his seat?
    Pulpstar said:

    Scott_P said:

    @wallaceme: Sorry, Chris Leslie - CHRIS LESLIE - is Shadow Chancellor?? This isn't a different Chris Leslie, right? #reshuffle

    There are lightweights and then there is Chris leslie.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Hilary Benn confirmed as shadow foreign secretary as predicted in FT: http://t.co/32F9vs3MYV

    @GuidoFawkes: Big diss for Liz Kendall from Harman. She's not given a proper Shad Cab job: http://t.co/8aukLEhqHz

    Is 100/1 on Hilary Benn of interest?
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    That's self-harming that needs professional help
    rottenborough said:

    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Hilary Benn confirmed as shadow foreign secretary as predicted in FT: http://t.co/32F9vs3MYV

    @GuidoFawkes: Big diss for Liz Kendall from Harman. She's not given a proper Shad Cab job: http://t.co/8aukLEhqHz

    Lucy Powell keeps her job. Some PBers will be choking on their lunch at this very moment.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Scott_P said:

    @GuidoFawkes: New shadow chancellor Chris Leslie has never had a job in the private sector. Was Gordon Brown's leadership campaign manager. #SameOldLabour

    Kind of like the actual Chancellor then.

  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,859
    Slackbladder said:

    rottenborough said:

    Scott_P said:

    @michaelsavage: Jon Cruddas resigns from shadow Cabinet to begin inquest into Labour's defeat. An initial report will be prepared for Labour conference.

    Implies he's not standing for leadership.
    Is it the same inquest as he had 5 years ago?
    LOL. The inquest has been reopened, due to new evidence coming to light!
  • JohnLilburne
    JohnLilburne Posts: 6,879
    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Ivan Lewis?

    He increased his majority to 10.4%
    Plato said:

    Did Ivan Dog Licences keep his seat?

    Pulpstar said:

    Scott_P said:

    @wallaceme: Sorry, Chris Leslie - CHRIS LESLIE - is Shadow Chancellor?? This isn't a different Chris Leslie, right? #reshuffle

    There are lightweights and then there is Chris leslie.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @PickardJE: Labour membership has risen by 20,000 since last Thursday, party says.

    @Mr_Eugenides: Why do people join political parties the day *after* elections? That’s like phoning up the Monday after a party offering to do the dishes.
  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    SouthamObserver said:

    I am not Lord Sugar's biggest fan, by a long chalk, but he has behaved very honourably over his resignation from Labour.

    Very. The danger is that as a result its significance will be overlooked by too many. This is a quietly devastating vote of no confidence in Labour by one of their most public business supporters.
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Benn moved to replace Dougie. Reynolds gets Benn's old post
    Leslie moved to replace Balls. Mahmood got Leslie's old post.
    Bryants replaces Harriet at Culture.

    Khan is out, I guess to launch his mayoral bid.
    Lord Faulkner replaces him
    SouthamObserver said:

    On the shadow cabinet - haven't they all got their old jobs back, apart from Balls and Alexander?

  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    David Lammy is NOT standing for leader
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664
    rottenborough said:

    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Hilary Benn confirmed as shadow foreign secretary as predicted in FT: http://t.co/32F9vs3MYV

    @GuidoFawkes: Big diss for Liz Kendall from Harman. She's not given a proper Shad Cab job: http://t.co/8aukLEhqHz

    Lucy Powell keeps her job. Some PBers will be choking on their lunch at this very moment.
    She knows where the EdStone is buried.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited May 2015
    AllyPally No, to win Obama obviously had to win areas like Ohio and Iowa which are basically the equivalent of the Midlands. He could not just win the Electoral College by racking up huge majorities in New York and Chicago. The Democrats did manage to win majorities in the House in 2006 and 2008.

    Of course Gloucester and Worcester (both populations 100,000 or more) are key marginal seats in the UK and in the US would be classed as mid-sized cities which Obama did manage to win.

    Turnout at UK general elections is actually higher than US general elections and almost double that of the US midterms which are the equivalent of UK local elections
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    Re: Delay in announcing appointment of Chief Secretary to the Treasury.

    *Cough* I wonder if the delay may have been caused by Danny Alexander's possible elevation to the Lords, thereby enabling to continue in this capacity?

    Somehow, I feel he may have burnt his boats in this regard.
  • MonikerDiCanio
    MonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    SouthamObserver said:

    I am not Lord Sugar's biggest fan, by a long chalk, but he has behaved very honourably over his resignation from Labour.

    Lol.
    I'm sure Lord Sugar would have resigned if EdM had won.
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited May 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Wasn't he supposed to run for London mayoral selection?

    I think considering running for the leadership somehow undermines his mayoral bid. Decide what you want to run for!
    Scott_P said:

    David Lammy is NOT standing for leader

  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    That's him. Many thanks and glad it's not just me who recalls that conference speech :smiley:
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Ivan Lewis?

    He increased his majority to 10.4%

    Plato said:

    Did Ivan Dog Licences keep his seat?

    Pulpstar said:

    Scott_P said:

    @wallaceme: Sorry, Chris Leslie - CHRIS LESLIE - is Shadow Chancellor?? This isn't a different Chris Leslie, right? #reshuffle

    There are lightweights and then there is Chris leslie.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    edited May 2015
    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?

    It must have been deleted. I just checked the BBC press office Twitter and it is not there. Strange there was no screen grab of the retweet provided.

    https://twitter.com/bbcpress

    Not on the News twitter either:

    https://twitter.com/bbcnews

  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Interesting point from Tom Newton-Dunn on DP.

    This is a "win-win" reshuffle; Cameron can only promote people, he doesn't have to sack anyone
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited May 2015
    SouthamObserver said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?

    It must have been deleted. I just checked the BBC press office Twitter and it is not there. Strange there was no screen grab of the retweet provided.

    Has now been deleted...but here you go...next..

    https://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/press-office.jpg?w=900
  • ThomasNashe
    ThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Labour membership has risen by 20,000 since last Thursday, party says.

    @Mr_Eugenides: Why do people join political parties the day *after* elections? That’s like phoning up the Monday after a party offering to do the dishes.

    That might have something to do with EdM's resignation. I'm considering re-joining, having let my membership lapse after his election (fwiw, I voted for David). Will wait to see who gets the leadership before making my final decision - i.e. I won't be re-joining if it's Cooper or Burnham.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Wasn't he supposed to run for London mayoral selection?

    I think considering running for the leadership somehow undermines his mayoral bid. Decide what you want to run for!

    Yes, he wants to be Mayor instead
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Douglas Fraser ‏@BBCDouglasF 2 mins2 minutes ago

    John Whittingdale, new culture/media secretary, in charge of BBC charter renewal. Has described licence fee as "worse than the poll tax" 1/3

    Beeboids need to be careful....
  • Charles
    Charles Posts: 35,758
    HYUFD said:

    The sheer complacency of Alanbrooke and Charles on Chuka is rather ridiculous, many commentators believed Obama could never win Middle America, but he did

    Obama is in a different league to Chuka, he had the most effective Democratic machine politicians behind him delivering him control of the party & he managed to massively increase turnout among previous DNVs. He still lost the WWC.

    If Chuka does as well as Obama he will deserve to win. But I don't think he will.

    It's not complacency: it's judgement. That's what I do for a living (and why, for example, I won all but one of the bets I made on the election - and maintain that @Pulpstar was lucky...)
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Are you suggesting I lied? I do hope not.
    SouthamObserver said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?

    It must have been deleted. I just checked the BBC press office Twitter and it is not there. Strange there was no screen grab of the retweet provided.

    https://twitter.com/bbcpress

  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,683
    peter_from_putney said:

    Re: Delay in announcing appointment of Chief Secretary to the Treasury.

    *Cough* I wonder if the delay may have been caused by Danny Alexander's possible elevation to the Lords, thereby enabling to continue in this capacity?

    Somehow, I feel he may have burnt his boats in this regard.

    Could it be their first choice has declined?
  • JohnLilburne
    JohnLilburne Posts: 6,879
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    I have heard positive things about my new MP Ranil Jayawardena, including from people not particularly committed. Mind you, Arbuthnot was widely considered to be an arse, presumably to be Lord Arse shortly.

  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Slackbladder said:

    Douglas Fraser ‏@BBCDouglasF 2 mins2 minutes ago

    John Whittingdale, new culture/media secretary, in charge of BBC charter renewal. Has described licence fee as "worse than the poll tax" 1/3

    Beeboids need to be careful....

    Personal tweets...views my own...not my employer :-)
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Glad they got it.
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?

    It must have been deleted. I just checked the BBC press office Twitter and it is not there. Strange there was no screen grab of the retweet provided.

    Has now been deleted...but here you go...next..

    https://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/press-office.jpg?w=900
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Plato said:

    Are you suggesting I lied? I do hope not.

    SouthamObserver said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?

    It must have been deleted. I just checked the BBC press office Twitter and it is not there. Strange there was no screen grab of the retweet provided.

    https://twitter.com/bbcpress

    I am just saying it's not there. It must have been deleted. Or maybe you got it wrong. That is not the same as lying.

  • OblitusSumMe
    OblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Scott_P said:

    Interesting point from Tom Newton-Dunn on DP.

    This is a "win-win" reshuffle; Cameron can only promote people, he doesn't have to sack anyone

    I think some people are being cleared out though. Guardian live-blog had this:

    "Desmond Swayne thinks his career his over as international development minister.

    @DesmondSwayne: No calls. Arrived DFID: Pass didn't work; All my stuff packed in boxes. The End?"
  • JohnLilburne
    JohnLilburne Posts: 6,879
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Slackbladder said:

    Douglas Fraser ‏@BBCDouglasF 2 mins2 minutes ago

    John Whittingdale, new culture/media secretary, in charge of BBC charter renewal. Has described licence fee as "worse than the poll tax" 1/3

    Beeboids need to be careful....

    Personal tweets...views my own...not my employer :-)
    It's hardly a personal tweet when your handle starts @BBC...
  • acf2310
    acf2310 Posts: 141
    peter_from_putney said:

    Re: Delay in announcing appointment of Chief Secretary to the Treasury.

    *Cough* I wonder if the delay may have been caused by Danny Alexander's possible elevation to the Lords, thereby enabling to continue in this capacity?

    Somehow, I feel he may have burnt his boats in this regard.

    Matt Hancock, I suspect.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,859
    ThomasNashe said:

    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Labour membership has risen by 20,000 since last Thursday, party says.

    @Mr_Eugenides: Why do people join political parties the day *after* elections? That’s like phoning up the Monday after a party offering to do the dishes.

    That might have something to do with EdM's resignation. I'm considering re-joining, having let my membership lapse after his election (fwiw, I voted for David). Will wait to see who gets the leadership before making my final decision - i.e. I won't be re-joining if it's Cooper or Burnham.
    If you re-join you get a vote. That's why 1000s have rejoined both LibDems and Lab over weekend I'd guess.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    ThomasNashe said:

    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Labour membership has risen by 20,000 since last Thursday, party says.

    @Mr_Eugenides: Why do people join political parties the day *after* elections? That’s like phoning up the Monday after a party offering to do the dishes.

    That might have something to do with EdM's resignation. I'm considering re-joining, having let my membership lapse after his election (fwiw, I voted for David). Will wait to see who gets the leadership before making my final decision - i.e. I won't be re-joining if it's Cooper or Burnham.

    Snap. I was going to join straight away, but have decided to see who gets the job. There's not much point in getting involved with something led by someone you have no faith in.

  • acf2310
    acf2310 Posts: 141
    Any news on health? Is Jeremy Hunt staying?
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    I know still lots of more minor roles to go, but doesn't seem to be anything for all those 2010 intake that lots of people had high hopes for e.g. Rory The Tory, Kwasi Kwarteng
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Lord Oahsh*tt's geld wasted. Only 6 of 46 seats chosen won. The curse of Oaksh&tt?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2015-32675279?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=[Oakeshott%20Scorecard%26]&ns_fee=0#post_55508c104c00004c004770da
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Oh I must check the batteries in my eyes. Yup. They're working fine.
    SouthamObserver said:

    Plato said:

    Are you suggesting I lied? I do hope not.

    SouthamObserver said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?

    It must have been deleted. I just checked the BBC press office Twitter and it is not there. Strange there was no screen grab of the retweet provided.

    https://twitter.com/bbcpress

    I am just saying it's not there. It must have been deleted. Or maybe you got it wrong. That is not the same as lying.

  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited May 2015
    Charles If anyone had said to a US political commentator in November 2004 just after George W Bush had beaten John Kerry that Chicago Community Organiser Barack Hussein Obama would have been the next US president they would have laughed in your face. The prospect of the first UK ethnic minority PM could well increase turnout amongst UK ethnic minorities, who knows, of course Chuka could lose, but he could win too, who knows what will happen in 5 years time
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,683
    acf2310 said:

    peter_from_putney said:

    Re: Delay in announcing appointment of Chief Secretary to the Treasury.

    *Cough* I wonder if the delay may have been caused by Danny Alexander's possible elevation to the Lords, thereby enabling to continue in this capacity?

    Somehow, I feel he may have burnt his boats in this regard.

    Matt Hancock, I suspect.
    Justine Greening?
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited May 2015
    JohnLilburne said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Slackbladder said:

    Douglas Fraser ‏@BBCDouglasF 2 mins2 minutes ago

    John Whittingdale, new culture/media secretary, in charge of BBC charter renewal. Has described licence fee as "worse than the poll tax" 1/3

    Beeboids need to be careful....

    Personal tweets...views my own...not my employer :-)
    It's hardly a personal tweet when your handle starts @BBC...
    Am joking...it is the ridiculous get out so many of them try to use.
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Re: BBC PR posting that retweet about Whittingdale. Carry on digging their grave.
    One other change for the BBC to come?
    Brought under OFCOM.
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    SouthamObserver said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Labour membership has risen by 20,000 since last Thursday, party says.

    @Mr_Eugenides: Why do people join political parties the day *after* elections? That’s like phoning up the Monday after a party offering to do the dishes.

    That might have something to do with EdM's resignation. I'm considering re-joining, having let my membership lapse after his election (fwiw, I voted for David). Will wait to see who gets the leadership before making my final decision - i.e. I won't be re-joining if it's Cooper or Burnham.

    Snap. I was going to join straight away, but have decided to see who gets the job. There's not much point in getting involved with something led by someone you have no faith in.

    Join now and you get to vote.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Slackbladder said:

    Douglas Fraser ‏@BBCDouglasF 2 mins2 minutes ago

    John Whittingdale, new culture/media secretary, in charge of BBC charter renewal. Has described licence fee as "worse than the poll tax" 1/3

    Beeboids need to be careful....

    What a bizarre post.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,683
    edited May 2015
    JohnLilburne said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    I have heard positive things about my new MP Ranil Jayawardena, including from people not particularly committed. Mind you, Arbuthnot was widely considered to be an arse, presumably to be Lord Arse shortly.

    You live in NE Hants? Me too.

    I liked James Arbuthnot. His work as chair of the Defence select committee, over a prolonged period, was excellent.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039 
    Betting Post

    Next Mayor Of London: Zac Goldsmith @ 22/1
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Interesting view on why Labour lost on CH - Labours attacks just didn't resonate.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2015/05/guy-opperman-mp-how-camerons-mainstream-moderate-middle-ground-politics-delivered-us-a-famous-victory.html


    "In Carlisle, Labour told voters that John didn’t care about opportunities for young people – just as John was organising his third Skills Fair in the town.

    In Stockton South, Labour told people that James Wharton, the local Conservative MP, didn’t care about the NHS. Yet, it was James who was leading the campaign for £50 million to be invested in his local NHS hospital.

    In my own patch, Labour put out a leaflet on polling day telling voters I was opposed to the Minimum Wage. Not only do I wholeheartedly support the Minimum Wage, but I have been a passionate advocate of the Living Wage for the past two years.

    Nationally, Labour once again told voters there was just 24 hours to save the NHS from the Tories. It seems lost on them, if not on the country, that there have been eight Conservative Prime ministers since the NHS was founded in 1948 – and it remains rated as one of the best healthcare services in the world.

    This wasn’t just a few cases of political mischief. Nationally, and in the marginals, Labour were shadow-boxing an enemy that only existed in their memories and the echo chamber of Twitter."
  • ThomasNashe
    ThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    rottenborough said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Labour membership has risen by 20,000 since last Thursday, party says.

    @Mr_Eugenides: Why do people join political parties the day *after* elections? That’s like phoning up the Monday after a party offering to do the dishes.

    That might have something to do with EdM's resignation. I'm considering re-joining, having let my membership lapse after his election (fwiw, I voted for David). Will wait to see who gets the leadership before making my final decision - i.e. I won't be re-joining if it's Cooper or Burnham.
    If you re-join you get a vote. That's why 1000s have rejoined both LibDems and Lab over weekend I'd guess.
    Unless they've changed the rules on this, you have to be a member for 12 months before you get a vote.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Tired of being ignored ?

    Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 1m1 minute ago Camberwell, London
    Jon Cruddas has resigned from shadow cabinet to start own review of reasons behind Labours defea
  • JohnLilburne
    JohnLilburne Posts: 6,879
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Slackbladder said:

    Douglas Fraser ‏@BBCDouglasF 2 mins2 minutes ago

    John Whittingdale, new culture/media secretary, in charge of BBC charter renewal. Has described licence fee as "worse than the poll tax" 1/3

    Beeboids need to be careful....

    Personal tweets...views my own...not my employer :-)
    It's hardly a personal tweet when your handle starts @BBC...
    Am joking...it is the ridiculous get out so many of them try to use.
    As a Civil Servant I am always very careful about making political statements on Facebook (I rarely tweet as I haven't really worked out what Twitter is for). I have ventured a bit of trolling on bitter threads started by my lefty friends, but nothing that my Department would be involved with, and I don't identify my employer on my profile and don't talk about work.

    Beeboids should follow the same rules, IMO.

  • JEO
    JEO Posts: 3,656
    Lord Alan Sugar has resigned from the Labour party, citing the anti-business direction it has taken, but said he didn't want to interfere with the election campaign.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    What struck me is how incredibly stupid it was. I follow press office accounts as a relic of my professional career.

    I just saw this in passing and was WTF. Apart from the obvious conflict with neutrality, it went to every journalist who follows the BBC Press Office account.
    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    Re: BBC PR posting that retweet about Whittingdale. Carry on digging their grave.
    One other change for the BBC to come?
    Brought under OFCOM.

  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,859
    OblitusSumMe said:

    Scott_P said:

    Interesting point from Tom Newton-Dunn on DP.

    This is a "win-win" reshuffle; Cameron can only promote people, he doesn't have to sack anyone

    I think some people are being cleared out though. Guardian live-blog had this:

    "Desmond Swayne thinks his career his over as international development minister.

    @DesmondSwayne: No calls. Arrived DFID: Pass didn't work; All my stuff packed in boxes. The End?"
    Surely Ben Swain?
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    If Burnham becomes Labour leader...will we have to talk about the NHS for the next 5 years every day?
  • Hertsmere_Pubgoer
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm backing Simon and Stella

    https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/597710129337921536

    How the hell does the ovaries criteria get met? If a man wins the leadership all male candidacies for Deputy Leader are effectively void?
    Karen Danczuk gets it in that case
    Good call TSE.

  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,859
    Tissue_Price said:

    Betting Post

    Next Mayor Of London: Zac Goldsmith @ 22/1
    Interesting. I'm tempted but a bit fed up of political bets at the moment.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    If Burnham becomes Labour leader...will we have to talk about the NHS for the next 5 years every day?

    Yes - unless you live in Stafford.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,802
    Eurovision is in less than two weeks time.

    Do you want another Eurovision thread ?
  • JohnLilburne
    JohnLilburne Posts: 6,879
    Casino_Royale said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    I have heard positive things about my new MP Ranil Jayawardena, including from people not particularly committed. Mind you, Arbuthnot was widely considered to be an arse, presumably to be Lord Arse shortly.

    You live in NE Hants? Me too.

    I liked James Arbuthnot. His work as chair of the Defence select committee, over a prolonged period, was excellent.
    He has been fairly non-existent since deciding to step down, and he didn't do well out of the expenses scandal, using taxpayers money to fund his pile in the country when he lives in a constituency where many people commute to London every day and spend their own money to do so.

    I'm in Fleet, where are you?

  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    I reckon Farage will be leader of Ukip at the end of the year... Any betting?

  • felix
    felix Posts: 15,180
    JohnLilburne said:

    Plato said:

    The BBC Press Office just retweeted this

    Take a look at @TerrorizerMir's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/597708881314390017?s=09

    Hmm, can see they're not happy about having someone who has criticised the licence fee as their Secretary of State. Getting their retaliation in first. Did I understand incorrectly that the BBC was supposed to be politically neutral?
    Although apparently now deleted this and other Beeb tweets strike me as incredibly stupid and childish - as daft as the Oxford prof yesterday who publicly unfriended people on FB for having 'Conservative' views.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    rottenborough said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    Betting Post

    Next Mayor Of London: Zac Goldsmith @ 22/1
    Interesting. I'm tempted but a bit fed up of political bets at the moment.
    This is when all the best value is - when most firms haven't adjusted to the new realities and are focused on other markets (e.g. Next Labour Leader).

    See also: Sajid Javid.
  • Hertsmere_Pubgoer
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    On the subject of Oliver Dowden. I owe Richard N an apology.
    Having dismissed him as only getting the plum seat of Hertsmere because he was one of Dave's mates. He was actually canvassing in Potters Bar, and called on one of my mates from the pub. He was very impressed and more so as having lived in PB since the 60's had never been canvassed by anyone.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Eurovision is in less than two weeks time.

    Do you want another Eurovision thread ?

    Hell Yes!
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    @TGOHF


    Surely everyone will want to talk about Stafford for the next 5 years ?
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    edited May 2015
    isam said:

    I reckon Farage will be leader of Ukip at the end of the year... Any betting?

    Skybet biggest at 4/6.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Yup
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Eurovision is in less than two weeks time.

    Do you want another Eurovision thread ?

  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    JohnLilburne said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    I have heard positive things about my new MP Ranil Jayawardena, including from people not particularly committed. Mind you, Arbuthnot was widely considered to be an arse, presumably to be Lord Arse shortly.

    You live in NE Hants? Me too.

    I liked James Arbuthnot. His work as chair of the Defence select committee, over a prolonged period, was excellent.
    He has been fairly non-existent since deciding to step down, and he didn't do well out of the expenses scandal, using taxpayers money to fund his pile in the country when he lives in a constituency where many people commute to London every day and spend their own money to do so.

    I'm in Fleet, where are you?

    I'm in East Hampshire, but work in Farnborough.
  • OblitusSumMe
    OblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    edited May 2015
    rottenborough said:

    OblitusSumMe said:

    Scott_P said:

    Interesting point from Tom Newton-Dunn on DP.

    This is a "win-win" reshuffle; Cameron can only promote people, he doesn't have to sack anyone

    I think some people are being cleared out though. Guardian live-blog had this:

    "Desmond Swayne thinks his career his over as international development minister.

    @DesmondSwayne: No calls. Arrived DFID: Pass didn't work; All my stuff packed in boxes. The End?"
    Surely Ben Swain?
    Seems to be this guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Swayne

    EDIT: Oh, a Thick Of It reference. Haven't seen that yet.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    isam said:

    I reckon Farage will be leader of Ukip at the end of the year... Any betting?

    I think you're right, so no bet there.

    What "line" would you currently put on how many seats you expect UKIP to have after the next election?
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    isam said:

    I reckon Farage will be leader of Ukip at the end of the year... Any betting?

    He wont have the backing of any Kipper MP then..

    Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 7m7 minutes ago
    Douglas Carswell names 5 candidates for the Ukip leadership. None of them is called Nigel Farage...
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    Tissue_Price said:

    isam said:

    I reckon Farage will be leader of Ukip at the end of the year... Any betting?

    Skybet biggest at 4/6.
    Oh dear!

    Wouldn't matter if they were 66/1 I can't get on w them

  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Casino_Royale said:

    acf2310 said:

    peter_from_putney said:

    Re: Delay in announcing appointment of Chief Secretary to the Treasury.

    *Cough* I wonder if the delay may have been caused by Danny Alexander's possible elevation to the Lords, thereby enabling to continue in this capacity?

    Somehow, I feel he may have burnt his boats in this regard.

    Matt Hancock, I suspect.
    Justine Greening?
    Will she be leaving?
  • Creidekki
    Creidekki Posts: 18
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    Another Wealden resident. Howdy neighbour.!
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    On the subject of Oliver Dowden. I owe Richard N an apology.
    Having dismissed him as only getting the plum seat of Hertsmere because he was one of Dave's mates. He was actually canvassing in Potters Bar, and called on one of my mates from the pub. He was very impressed and more so as having lived in PB since the 60's had never been canvassed by anyone.

    Thank H-P. I fear I might have jumped down your throat on that - apologies if I did.
  • TimGeo
    TimGeo Posts: 27
    To be fair to James Arbuthnot he had done some high profile work exposing the injustices of the Royal Mail's dealings with sub post masters ( criminal records given due to problems with the new IT system) towards the end of the last Parliament
  • ThomasNashe
    ThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    rottenborough said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    Betting Post

    Next Mayor Of London: Zac Goldsmith @ 22/1
    Interesting. I'm tempted but a bit fed up of political bets at the moment.
    No chance. Would do well in Richmond and Twickenham, but that'd be about it.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,802
    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Eurovision is in less than two weeks time.

    Do you want another Eurovision thread ?

    Hell Yes!
    I'm quietly confident about our entry this year.

    Our best entry since Gina G
  • BannedInParis
    BannedInParis Posts: 2,191
    TGOHF said:

    Interesting view on why Labour lost on CH - Labours attacks just didn't resonate.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2015/05/guy-opperman-mp-how-camerons-mainstream-moderate-middle-ground-politics-delivered-us-a-famous-victory.html


    "In Carlisle, Labour told voters that John didn’t care about opportunities for young people – just as John was organising his third Skills Fair in the town.

    In Stockton South, Labour told people that James Wharton, the local Conservative MP, didn’t care about the NHS. Yet, it was James who was leading the campaign for £50 million to be invested in his local NHS hospital.

    In my own patch, Labour put out a leaflet on polling day telling voters I was opposed to the Minimum Wage. Not only do I wholeheartedly support the Minimum Wage, but I have been a passionate advocate of the Living Wage for the past two years.

    Nationally, Labour once again told voters there was just 24 hours to save the NHS from the Tories. It seems lost on them, if not on the country, that there have been eight Conservative Prime ministers since the NHS was founded in 1948 – and it remains rated as one of the best healthcare services in the world.

    This wasn’t just a few cases of political mischief. Nationally, and in the marginals, Labour were shadow-boxing an enemy that only existed in their memories and the echo chamber of Twitter."

    Yeah

    "This wasn’t just a few cases of political mischief. Nationally, and in the marginals, Labour were shadow-boxing an enemy that only existed in their memories and the echo chamber of Twitter. As they did so, David Cameron and Conservative candidates were articulating our vision for an aspirational economy, which would secure our public services and help Britain fulfil its promise in the 21st Century. The Labour Party, like a poorly directed amateur dramatics society, continued re-enacting battles from the 1970s and 1980s, whilst the Conservative cavalry quietly conquered the marginals."

    Don't forget this Cameron and beyond.
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited May 2015
    Plato said:

    Yup

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Eurovision is in less than two weeks time.

    Do you want another Eurovision thread ?

    Only if it discusses the detail of replacing the present system of voting based on how much we hate the country concerned with a fairer system based around AV......


    What....? .... WHAT ?? *innocent face*


    I guess with points system they have that already I suppose
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited May 2015
    Tissue_Price said:

    rottenborough said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    Betting Post

    Next Mayor Of London: Zac Goldsmith @ 22/1
    Interesting. I'm tempted but a bit fed up of political bets at the moment.
    This is when all the best value is - when most firms haven't adjusted to the new realities and are focused on other markets (e.g. Next Labour Leader).

    See also: Sajid Javid.
    Precisely. The Next Con Leader market is still largely based on prices which assumed Cameron would have resigned last Friday.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    On the subject of Oliver Dowden. I owe Richard N an apology.
    Having dismissed him as only getting the plum seat of Hertsmere because he was one of Dave's mates. He was actually canvassing in Potters Bar, and called on one of my mates from the pub. He was very impressed and more so as having lived in PB since the 60's had never been canvassed by anyone.

    I did quite a bit of canvassing when I was councillor for Oakmere. Which is your ward?
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,802
    What a fine principled patriotic lion

    @BarryHartness: Tories take overall control of Portsmouth council thanks to deferction from Dep Leader of Ukip!!
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    ThomasNashe said:

    rottenborough said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    Betting Post

    Next Mayor Of London: Zac Goldsmith @ 22/1
    Interesting. I'm tempted but a bit fed up of political bets at the moment.
    No chance. Would do well in Richmond and Twickenham, but that'd be about it.
    In the same way that there was no way Londoners would elect Boris?

    Clearly Labour are favourites, but unless the Tories can get Seb or Karren to stand, Zac looks by far the best candidate, and I suspect his moderation and environmentalism etc. will go down well.
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Creidekki said:

    Another Wealden resident. Howdy neighbour.!

    Howdy!
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    I see Mr Sugar has resigned from the Labour Party. Any inference to rats deserting proverbial ships is simply coincidental.


  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,683
    JohnLilburne said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    I have heard positive things about my new MP Ranil Jayawardena, including from people not particularly committed. Mind you, Arbuthnot was widely considered to be an arse, presumably to be Lord Arse shortly.

    You live in NE Hants? Me too.

    I liked James Arbuthnot. His work as chair of the Defence select committee, over a prolonged period, was excellent.
    He has been fairly non-existent since deciding to step down, and he didn't do well out of the expenses scandal, using taxpayers money to fund his pile in the country when he lives in a constituency where many people commute to London every day and spend their own money to do so.

    I'm in Fleet, where are you?

    Odiham.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Eurovision is in less than two weeks time.

    Do you want another Eurovision thread ?

    Hell Yes!
    I'm quietly confident about our entry this year.

    Our best entry since Gina G
    You forget Daz Sampson.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Moses_ said:

    I see Mr Sugar has resigned from the Labour Party. Any inference to rats deserting proverbial ships is simply coincidental.

    Lord Sugar has behaved with a huge amount of decency in deferring his resignation until after the GE.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Damn! I was one too for 15yrs until last summer.
    Creidekki said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Cameron chooses to pose next to MPs who beat Ed Balls, Mark Reckless and Vince Cable... Says a lot! http://t.co/7SxlZbTLGv

    And immediately behind him, (next to Boris!), is my new MP Nus Ghani. I think we'll see quite a lot of her on the media.

    Other names to watch out for: Chris Philp (cabinet material for sure, in due course), Suella Fernandes, Oliver Dowden. No doubt several more. Oh, and Boris Johnson!

    There's a useful list here:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/05/generation-2015-introducing-the-74-new-conservative-mps.html

    Another Wealden resident. Howdy neighbour.!
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