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Good song but Debris and Independence Day are better imo.antifrank said:The best father and son song was written by a man who has just been given a lifetime achievement award for folk music by the BBC. I'm sure we can all applaud this overdue recognition of a supremely talented artist.
Though I can't help but think how Boyzone/Westlife or whoever it was ruined the Cat Stevens song.0 -
Peter Powell was so yummy.0
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That proves the point you are trying to disprove!Nemtynakht said:
I've never come across a shy kipper.weejonnie said:
Two polls have them on 17 and 18%. When you factor in 'shy kipper' syndrome then I confidently expect that 50.01% will vote for them in May. (TIC)AndyJS said:If UKIP are on 10% in London it seems very unlikely they're on just 13% overall as some pollsters are showing.
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Good point, what I mean is that sometimes after coaxing and pressing people will normally admit they voted for Clegg last time an if they have to make a choice this time it will be Labour or Tory or green.Anorak said:
Well, duh. They are shy.Nemtynakht said:
I've never come across a shy kipper.weejonnie said:
Two polls have them on 17 and 18%. When you factor in 'shy kipper' syndrome then I confidently expect that 50.01% will vote for them in May. (TIC)AndyJS said:If UKIP are on 10% in London it seems very unlikely they're on just 13% overall as some pollsters are showing.
Normally a kipper will volunteer early an loudly their admiration for farage and a combination of Ukip issues such as immigration, foreigners taking housing, foreigners taking jobs, foreigners taking school places or foreigners filling the m4 on a Friday preventing us getting to Cardiff for a meeting. They will then insist they are 100% likely to vote so they can stick it to Europe. They do not come across as the party of shy introspection, rather the party of shouts pub interjections.0 -
Someone was always going to take this too far. No surprises who it wasTheScreamingEagles said:
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Virtue signalling.... Was used recently to describe the lefty tactic of damning everything Ukip sayTGOHF said:Good piece on the migrants pre Mili speech
http://www.capx.co/why-europe-needs-to-look-to-australia-to-solve-the-migrant-crisis/
"Tweeting your outrage is a much easier way of doing this than, say, working in a refugee camp. The writer James Bartholomew has recently come up with an apt label for the phenomenon: “virtue signalling”. That phrase neatly encapsulates our generation’s elevation of the moralistic (holding the correct opinions) over the moral (doing the right thing). I hope it becomes a Twitter staple, a standard riposte to those who think they prove their compassion by hating the right people."
EDIT actually probably the article you were referring to
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9501282/hating-the-daily-mail-is-a-substitute-for-doing-good/
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Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).
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Last matched price for Labour minority government: 2.26.0
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Unlike all the otherstaffys said:With Populus, before allocation of don't knows, Labour are on 26% and the Conservatives 24%.
And so the poll is, therefore, in some senses, both subjective and arbitrary.0 -
I like the Urban Dictionary definition (don't panic, mods): something that has never happened anywhere, ever, to anyone, at allTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
To be fair to St Nicola, if she did rule out a second Indy referendum it would tear the SNP apart. Logically, though, you'd have thought she will not want another one until she can make a credible economic case - if the flip-flopping on FFA is anything to go be it does seem to be dawning on her that an independent Scotland would be a lot worse off then it is at the moment.0
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I'd have phrased it as "Tories attempting to assert that discussing the human consequences of politicians' policies is outside the permissible scope of political discourse" is the low point so far, though I'll free acknowledge that's less catchy.MarkHopkins said:
Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).
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I rather like Mike and The Mechanics' "In the Living Years" and Eric Clapton's "Father's Eyes". But Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" hits hardest for me.antifrank said:The best father and son song was written by a man who has just been given a lifetime achievement award for folk music by the BBC. I'm sure we can all applaud this overdue recognition of a supremely talented artist.
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I have met shy Tories and Labour. It normally takes a few drinks to get it out of them. The kipper normally runs the barisam said:
That proves the point you are trying to disprove!Nemtynakht said:
I've never come across a shy kipper.weejonnie said:
Two polls have them on 17 and 18%. When you factor in 'shy kipper' syndrome then I confidently expect that 50.01% will vote for them in May. (TIC)AndyJS said:If UKIP are on 10% in London it seems very unlikely they're on just 13% overall as some pollsters are showing.
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Our Lordship is still enjoying being a tease:
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 1m 1 minute ago
Been a bit busy today!! However should get some marginal seat polling out today including Rochester & Strood.0 -
I predict Con ahead in Rochester by 2-3%,0
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A bit busy? Shouldn't a billionaire have people to take care of these things for him? Likes to be hands on I guess.TheScreamingEagles said:
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*Innocent Face*Anorak said:0 -
I can't listen to In The Living Years, upsets me too much.MTimT said:
I rather like Mike and The Mechanics' "In the Living Years" and Eric Clapton's "Father's Eyes". But Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" hits hardest for me.antifrank said:The best father and son song was written by a man who has just been given a lifetime achievement award for folk music by the BBC. I'm sure we can all applaud this overdue recognition of a supremely talented artist.
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Other than Ashcroft, what else are we expecting out today?0
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Yeah, it's a bit like the angry pirate.Anorak said:
I like the Urban Dictionary definition (don't panic, mods): something that has never happened anywhere, ever, to anyone, at allTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
YouGovStereotomy said:Other than Ashcroft, what else are we expecting out today?
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Too much on Scotland ? For the Tories it is a one trick pony.
To suggest that they have no responsibility [ alongwith that great socialist, Hollande ] regarding the post- Gaddafi era is denying reality. These two countries were the most bomb happy.
Before anyone says what about Blair in Iraq - the answer is the s.o.b was just as responsible for not thinking about post-Saddam Iraq. But after Iraq we should have been doubly careful.
Thanks to Ed, we did not get embroiled in Syria. Otherwise IS would be sitting in Damascus today.
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Lastly, I can report that the Conservative attack on a Labour-SNP deal has indeed begun to "cut through" into the real world, although not always in the way the Tories might wish. "Yeah, I'm voting for you," a Labour candidate in the Midlands was recently told, "But only because Nicola Sturgeon will be there to hold your balls to the fire!"
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/04/naked-men-diminutive-voters-existential-questions-what-really-happens-doorstep0 -
Not an official Tory, but want them to win instead of Labour?
You can help here > team2015.co.uk/pledge?recruiter_id=761310 -
The Tories have led by 4%, 4%, 4%, 2%, -2%, -2%, -3%,-3%, with non Yougov polls. That surely gives them a small lead?Sunil_Prasannan said:Populus wipes out the Tory lead in the Non-YouGov part-ELBOW, now 0.1% Lab lead.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzTheScreamingEagles said:
YouGovStereotomy said:Other than Ashcroft, what else are we expecting out today?
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The only weapon that was used were bombs which killed people in Libya and it was none of our f***ing business. We are a small island of the mainland of Europe. We should get used to that and not strut our willy everywhere.MarkHopkins said:
Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).0 -
If Salmon failed to make a creditable economic argument for independence when oil was over $100 a barrel, then I fail to see how Sturgeon would do anything but struggle when oil is half that.SouthamObserver said:To be fair to St Nicola, if she did rule out a second Indy referendum it would tear the SNP apart. Logically, though, you'd have thought she will not want another one until she can make a credible economic case - if the flip-flopping on FFA is anything to go be it does seem to be dawning on her that an independent Scotland would be a lot worse off then it is at the moment.
Perhaps the only thing Eck got right during the entire indie campaign was that the next referendum would not be for another generation, or 18 years whichever is the sooner.
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not if the ones with Labour leads have bigger sample sizes.Sean_F said:
The Tories have led by 4%, 4%, 4%, 2%, -2%, -2%, -3%,-3%, with non Yougov polls. That surely gives them a small lead?Sunil_Prasannan said:Populus wipes out the Tory lead in the Non-YouGov part-ELBOW, now 0.1% Lab lead.
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Ah, okay. But that still means there would have to be a vote in the Commons to accept the new boundaries, just as there was in 2013, so the use of new boundaries at the next election is not automatic.Lennon said:
My understanding is that the Boundary Commission is (automatically) charged to start again to create 600 seats dependant on registration, and to report to the HoC in 2018 for approval. What Clegg kicked into touch was the Boundary Commission's 2013 report - but the rules instructing them on a 5 yearly basis to create new boundaries are still in place. (As I understand it)OblitusSumMe said:
I think the point made is that the new boundaries that would be brought in automatically in 2018 are the old boundaries that Clegg kicked in to touch after Lords Reform was abandoned - so it wouldn't take the electoral register increase in Scotland into effect.Pulpstar said:
Won't the SNP want to keep all their new fiefdoms though ?Tissue_Price said:Interesting from Nick Tyrone on the future boundaries. I was not aware that the new boundaries automatically come into effect as per:
However, this only amounted to a temporary delay: the new boundaries, equalising the constituency sizes and reducing the number of MPs to 600, a move that takes a lot of the current bias towards Labour out of the system, will automatically come into effect in 2018 unless some new piece of legislation gets passed to come up with either an alternate boundary review or stick with the current set of boundaries for yet another election in 2020.
http://nicktyrone.com/did-labour-just-forget-about-this-glaring-problem-for-them-when-they-wrote-their-manifesto/
Mind you electoral register increase in Scotland could be good for them...
I suspect that if Labour form the government they will quite quickly pass legislation giving the boundary commission a fresh mandate for a review of boundaries on terms that Labour believe are fair, thus finally burying the 600-seat boundaries, but whether that new set of boundaries will survive to see an election is less certain.
We are going to see some very unedifying wrangling over boundaries in the years ahead, which is something of a missed opportunity when they could be debating PR variants instead.0 -
Mark Hopkins
"Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far)"
The low point for me was seeing Bomber Cameron volunteer to send a boat to pick up desperate refugees and say he would drop them off in Italy.....
But the list is long
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Well quite. It looks more like an attempt to move the price than anything!Pong said:
Wow, someone's just bet £8.5k on it.antifrank said:Last matched price for Labour minority government: 2.26.
That's more than a fun bet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government0 -
I just got an email from Jack McConnell for Scottish Labour. Basically asking for cash for the final push.
bwahahahahaha.0 -
I still haven't worked out what I'd most like to see on May 7th/8th.
i) A Tory majority
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ii) Mark Reckless losing his seat0 -
Bob Sykes is Private Fraser.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sykes, it's a credible possibility, but not inevitable.
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surbiton said:
The only weapon that was used were bombs which killed people in Libya and it was none of our f***ing business. We are a small island of the mainland of Europe. We should get used to that and not strut our willy everywhere.MarkHopkins said:
Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).
The city of Benghazi would have been wiped out if we had not. No doubt Miliband would have been complaining about that as well.
Or we could have thousands of troops stationed over their, keeping the "peace". I'll give you one guess who would have been complaining about that.
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The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.0
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No doubt you'd have been moaning about our callousness if we'd let Gadaffi slaughter his people.surbiton said:
The only weapon that was used were bombs which killed people in Libya and it was none of our f***ing business. We are a small island of the mainland of Europe. We should get used to that and not strut our willy everywhere.MarkHopkins said:
Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).0 -
Tim Reid @TimReidBBC 2h2 hours ago
Sturgeon says SNP MPs will vote on any further privatisation of English health service because it protects Scotland's budget0 -
Surely that Populus chart showing whether or not an issue has been discussed too much is flawed as it was a simple binary choice. To make it truly reliable there should have been a column allowing respondents to say "about right." Failing that column it is seriously misleading in my view.0
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@nigel4england LOL Just seen a clip with Madness talking about their costumes [007 tuxes, 60s frilly shirts et al] and saying they ambushed The Clash wearing copper uniforms = and heard toilets flushing, not spoken to for 5 yrs afterwards.
Isn't that fab?0 -
Or the Dirty Sanchez (it's still tickles me that they managed to name a TV program that).TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, it's a bit like the angry pirate.Anorak said:
I like the Urban Dictionary definition (don't panic, mods): something that has never happened anywhere, ever, to anyone, at allTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
hmm. I suspect it's more about liquidity.Tissue_Price said:
Well quite. It looks more like an attempt to move the price than anything!Pong said:
Wow, someone's just bet £8.5k on it.antifrank said:Last matched price for Labour minority government: 2.26.
That's more than a fun bet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government
"hi is that Paddy Power? Yeah, I'd like £10k on a labour minority govt"
"you can have a £7.36."0 -
I know what you mean - however, Mike and the Mechanics 'over my shoulder' played at full volume in the car with the roof down is a CD must have.nigel4england said:
I can't listen to In The Living Years, upsets me too much.MTimT said:
I rather like Mike and The Mechanics' "In the Living Years" and Eric Clapton's "Father's Eyes". But Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" hits hardest for me.antifrank said:The best father and son song was written by a man who has just been given a lifetime achievement award for folk music by the BBC. I'm sure we can all applaud this overdue recognition of a supremely talented artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda1OAldxJY0 -
Indeed - All boundary changes have to be approved by the Commons, but they have normally always just gone through "on the nod" as it were... the lack of a majority makes that less certain so persistent hung parliaments mean that we could be using the 2010 boundaries for quite some considerable time...OblitusSumMe said:
Ah, okay. But that still means there would have to be a vote in the Commons to accept the new boundaries, just as there was in 2013, so the use of new boundaries at the next election is not automatic.Lennon said:
My understanding is that the Boundary Commission is (automatically) charged to start again to create 600 seats dependant on registration, and to report to the HoC in 2018 for approval. What Clegg kicked into touch was the Boundary Commission's 2013 report - but the rules instructing them on a 5 yearly basis to create new boundaries are still in place. (As I understand it)OblitusSumMe said:
I think the point made is that the new boundaries that would be brought in automatically in 2018 are the old boundaries that Clegg kicked in to touch after Lords Reform was abandoned - so it wouldn't take the electoral register increase in Scotland into effect.Pulpstar said:
Won't the SNP want to keep all their new fiefdoms though ?Tissue_Price said:Interesting from Nick Tyrone on the future boundaries. I was not aware that the new boundaries automatically come into effect as per:
However, this only amounted to a temporary delay: the new boundaries, equalising the constituency sizes and reducing the number of MPs to 600, a move that takes a lot of the current bias towards Labour out of the system, will automatically come into effect in 2018 unless some new piece of legislation gets passed to come up with either an alternate boundary review or stick with the current set of boundaries for yet another election in 2020.
http://nicktyrone.com/did-labour-just-forget-about-this-glaring-problem-for-them-when-they-wrote-their-manifesto/
Mind you electoral register increase in Scotland could be good for them...
I suspect that if Labour form the government they will quite quickly pass legislation giving the boundary commission a fresh mandate for a review of boundaries on terms that Labour believe are fair, thus finally burying the 600-seat boundaries, but whether that new set of boundaries will survive to see an election is less certain.
We are going to see some very unedifying wrangling over boundaries in the years ahead, which is something of a missed opportunity when they could be debating PR variants instead.0 -
Yes AS will be busy preparing to organise the hundreds of troops she will have at her behest this weekend.NickPalmer said:Interesting that the London poll shows the Labour lead slightly larger among ABC1 voters - same pattern as in Broxtowe (according to Ashcroft) but different to elsewhere.
We're now wrapping up our postal vote GOTV operation - about 80% of those reached have now voted. AS skipped a hustings event (Notts TV) for the third time running today, citing "constituency business".
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@TelePolitics: Ed Miliband rows back over Libya attack on David Cameron http://t.co/Eny2yZB9u9
Lucy scores another great set of headlines for her boss...0 -
I think a clean account would have been able to get £8.5k on at 6/4 or better across a few bookies. Might have had to take some 11/8. They've taken worse than 5/4. Not necessarily the actions of a shrewd punter.Pong said:
hmm. I suspect it's more about liquidity.Tissue_Price said:
Well quite. It looks more like an attempt to move the price than anything!Pong said:
Wow, someone's just bet £8.5k on it.antifrank said:Last matched price for Labour minority government: 2.26.
That's more than a fun bet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government
"hi is that Paddy Power? Yeah, I'd like £10k on a labour minority govt"
"you can have a £7.36."0 -
It could be argued that our failure to act in Syria (preventd by Milipede) resulted in thousands of displaced Syrians who are trying to cross the Med. But I am not an opportunistic jerk like Ed.MarkHopkins said:surbiton said:
The only weapon that was used were bombs which killed people in Libya and it was none of our f***ing business. We are a small island of the mainland of Europe. We should get used to that and not strut our willy everywhere.MarkHopkins said:
Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).
The city of Benghazi would have been wiped out if we had not. No doubt Miliband would have been complaining about that as well.
Or we could have thousands of troops stationed over their, keeping the "peace". I'll give you one guess who would have been complaining about that.
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Re Libya, from one of my friends: "Hey Libyans - we'll take 100,000 of you in return for one Russell Brand."0
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Brilliant!Plato said:@nigel4england LOL Just seen a clip with Madness talking about their costumes [007 tuxes, 60s frilly shirts et al] and saying they ambushed The Clash wearing copper uniforms = and heard toilets flushing, not spoken to for 5 yrs afterwards.
Isn't that fab?
I love Madness, breath of fresh air at the time. Great lyrics too though not as good as Squeeze.
Have a listen to Bruce's One Step Up, about the break up with his first wife.0 -
*cries*
I deleted 13 Horses for being too sad. Alexander Ryback [winner of Eurovision 2009 with Fairytale]. He's brilliant. The winning song with almost 64 MILLION plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiH4BFTELMESimonStClare said:
I know what you mean - however, Mike and the Mechanics 'over my shoulder' played at full volume in the car with the roof down is a CD must have.nigel4england said:
I can't listen to In The Living Years, upsets me too much.MTimT said:
I rather like Mike and The Mechanics' "In the Living Years" and Eric Clapton's "Father's Eyes". But Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" hits hardest for me.antifrank said:The best father and son song was written by a man who has just been given a lifetime achievement award for folk music by the BBC. I'm sure we can all applaud this overdue recognition of a supremely talented artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda1OAldxJY0 -
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
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Big move for Miliband to be PM after election on Betfair as well from 1.71 to 1.64 with high volumes showing on the chart.Tissue_Price said:
I think a clean account would have been able to get £8.5k on at 6/4 or better across a few bookies. Might have had to take some 11/8. They've taken worse than 5/4. Not necessarily the actions of a shrewd punter.Pong said:
hmm. I suspect it's more about liquidity.Tissue_Price said:
Well quite. It looks more like an attempt to move the price than anything!Pong said:
Wow, someone's just bet £8.5k on it.antifrank said:Last matched price for Labour minority government: 2.26.
That's more than a fun bet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government
"hi is that Paddy Power? Yeah, I'd like £10k on a labour minority govt"
"you can have a £7.36."
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Libya: No Deal.rcs1000 said:Re Libya, from one of my friends: "Hey Libyans - we'll take 100,000 of you in return for one Russell Brand."
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Yeah right. Considering options as too much regulation with Tories. All those floating voters will be opting for the regulation free Labour utopia then? If it's an issue for a voter they will not be voting labourSMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
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Ed had not intended to prevent all possible future action, even though he has said so since.perdix said:
It could be argued that our failure to act in Syria (preventd by Milipede) resulted in thousands of displaced Syrians who are trying to cross the Med. But I am not an opportunistic jerk like Ed.MarkHopkins said:surbiton said:
The only weapon that was used were bombs which killed people in Libya and it was none of our f***ing business. We are a small island of the mainland of Europe. We should get used to that and not strut our willy everywhere.MarkHopkins said:
Miliband weaponising migrants is definitely the low point of the campaign (so far).
The city of Benghazi would have been wiped out if we had not. No doubt Miliband would have been complaining about that as well.
Or we could have thousands of troops stationed over their, keeping the "peace". I'll give you one guess who would have been complaining about that.0 -
If you're having an argument that you can't win, change the subject loudly by "throwing a dead cat on to the table". Suddenly everyone's talking about the dead cat.Carnyx said:
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
see e.g. Fallon intervention on Ed after non-doms; Ed's speech today after SNP meme0 -
Apparently if you want to move the conversation on from an uncomfortable topic, if you throw a dead cat on the table, everyone will talk about the cat and forget about the original topic.Carnyx said:This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.
So, for example, if Ed Miliband wanted to stop talking about getting annihilated by the SNP he could accuse David Cameron of drowning migrants perhaps0 -
I am inclined to your view that there will be enough people opposed to changing the boundaries that they will be voted down.Lennon said:
Indeed - All boundary changes have to be approved by the Commons, but they have normally always just gone through "on the nod" as it were... the lack of a majority makes that less certain so persistent hung parliaments mean that we could be using the 2010 boundaries for quite some considerable time...OblitusSumMe said:
Ah, okay. But that still means there would have to be a vote in the Commons to accept the new boundaries, just as there was in 2013, so the use of new boundaries at the next election is not automatic.Lennon said:
My understanding is that the Boundary Commission is (automatically) charged to start again to create 600 seats dependant on registration, and to report to the HoC in 2018 for approval. What Clegg kicked into touch was the Boundary Commission's 2013 report - but the rules instructing them on a 5 yearly basis to create new boundaries are still in place. (As I understand it)OblitusSumMe said:
I think the point made is that the new boundaries that would be brought in automatically in 2018 are the old boundaries that Clegg kicked in to touch after Lords Reform was abandoned - so it wouldn't take the electoral register increase in Scotland into effect.Pulpstar said:
Won't the SNP want to keep all their new fiefdoms though ?Tissue_Price said:Interesting from Nick Tyrone on the future boundaries. I was not aware that the new boundaries automatically come into effect as per:
However, this only amounted to a temporary delay: the new boundaries, equalising the constituency sizes and reducing the number of MPs to 600, a move that takes a lot of the current bias towards Labour out of the system, will automatically come into effect in 2018 unless some new piece of legislation gets passed to come up with either an alternate boundary review or stick with the current set of boundaries for yet another election in 2020.
http://nicktyrone.com/did-labour-just-forget-about-this-glaring-problem-for-them-when-they-wrote-their-manifesto/
Mind you electoral register increase in Scotland could be good for them...
I suspect that if Labour form the government they will quite quickly pass legislation giving the boundary commission a fresh mandate for a review of boundaries on terms that Labour believe are fair, thus finally burying the 600-seat boundaries, but whether that new set of boundaries will survive to see an election is less certain.
We are going to see some very unedifying wrangling over boundaries in the years ahead, which is something of a missed opportunity when they could be debating PR variants instead.0 -
England 400/7 need at least another 50
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Labeled With Love is a killer.nigel4england said:
Brilliant!Plato said:@nigel4england LOL Just seen a clip with Madness talking about their costumes [007 tuxes, 60s frilly shirts et al] and saying they ambushed The Clash wearing copper uniforms = and heard toilets flushing, not spoken to for 5 yrs afterwards.
Isn't that fab?
I love Madness, breath of fresh air at the time. Great lyrics too though not as good as Squeeze.
Have a listen to Bruce's One Step Up, about the break up with his first wife.0 -
They're going to need six dead kittens on a skewer (sorry, Plato) to stop the SNP meme.Tissue_Price said:
If you're having an argument that you can't win, change the subject loudly by "throwing a dead cat on to the table". Suddenly everyone's talking about the dead cat.Carnyx said:
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
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It's quite an astonishing market. The odds were completely the wrong way around for weeks, yet barely anyone noticed. The assumption seemed to be that if dave got most seats, he'd be PM.indianhaven said:
Big move for Miliband to be PM after election on Betfair as well from 1.71 to 1.64 with high volumes showing on the chart.Tissue_Price said:
I think a clean account would have been able to get £8.5k on at 6/4 or better across a few bookies. Might have had to take some 11/8. They've taken worse than 5/4. Not necessarily the actions of a shrewd punter.Pong said:
hmm. I suspect it's more about liquidity.Tissue_Price said:
Well quite. It looks more like an attempt to move the price than anything!Pong said:
Wow, someone's just bet £8.5k on it.antifrank said:Last matched price for Labour minority government: 2.26.
That's more than a fun bet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government
"hi is that Paddy Power? Yeah, I'd like £10k on a labour minority govt"
"you can have a £7.36."
There was a large bet on Dave PM (IIRC ~£5k at 1.78) which anchored him as favourite, with the market trading below that price.
Shows how much money is sloshing around the betting markets at silly odds IMO.0 -
Scott_P said:
Apparently if you want to move the conversation on from an uncomfortable topic, if you throw a dead cat on the table, everyone will talk about the cat and forget about the original topic.Carnyx said:This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.
So, for example, if Ed Miliband wanted to stop talking about getting annihilated by the SNP he could accuse David Cameron of drowning migrants perhaps
Ah, thank you both: like a squirrel but much more in your face (and no doubt also nose).Tissue_Price said:
If you're having an argument that you can't win, change the subject loudly by "throwing a dead cat on to the table". Suddenly everyone's talking about the dead cat.Carnyx said:
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
see e.g. Fallon intervention on Ed after non-doms; Ed's speech today after SNP meme
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LOLMarkHopkins said:
Libya: No Deal.rcs1000 said:Re Libya, from one of my friends: "Hey Libyans - we'll take 100,000 of you in return for one Russell Brand."
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Bastard Billionaires! Working themselves up from humble origins, reviving famous British brands, setting up new factories, exporting all over the world, building homes. If only we could tax him to oblivion...0 -
I'd generally agree with dead cats - unless they're worse than the original - Labour have managed this feat.
Quite remarkable.Tissue_Price said:
If you're having an argument that you can't win, change the subject loudly by "throwing a dead cat on to the table". Suddenly everyone's talking about the dead cat.Carnyx said:
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
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Which will be pretty shocking. How old will the boundaries be in 2020 if they aren't approved?OblitusSumMe said:I am inclined to your view that there will be enough people opposed to changing the boundaries that they will be voted down.
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The alternative McVities advert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxXZ_uEVr9cAnorak said:
They're going to need six dead kittens on a skewer (sorry, Plato) to stop the SNP meme.Tissue_Price said:
If you're having an argument that you can't win, change the subject loudly by "throwing a dead cat on to the table". Suddenly everyone's talking about the dead cat.Carnyx said:
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
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It has been a brilliant campaign day for Labour...heheheheh0
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In terms of Scotland coverage, before the campaign started the SNP's biggest fear was probably that they would be pretty much ignored outside of Scotland and not get a fair amount of national media coverage. Suffice to say things have turned out very differently !!
Following the Tories blanket coverage of the SNP, the surge has probably been given a boost to the extent that on the day the SNP will achieve over 50% of the vote. As we now enter the last couple of weeks of the campaign Labour and the Tories will increasingly focus on destroying each other, based on todays shenanigans, this is going to be a very nasty campaign. The nastier the better from the SNP's perspective as this will limit tactical voting against them, they may even end up being net beneficiaries. Time for us NATS to crack open the popcorn and enjoy the show.
The Lib Dems in Scotland are becoming increasingly pathetic and don't seem to be able to recover from the damage done by entering the Coalition. If Cameron wanted to bang the last few nails into SLID's coffin, he could no doubt let the Cabinet Secretary publish the report into Frenchgate, which had Carmichael's and SLID fingerprints all over it.0 -
Nige, what are you doing, all those Red Kippers are now going to go back home
Nigel Farage has said the Tories as the biggest party with enough UKIP MPs to hold David Cameron's "feet to the fire" would be the best post-election outcome for his party.
The UKIP leader has previously expressed indifference towards which of the two main parties gained the largest number of seats, but has now revealed to Sky News he would prefer the Conservatives.
The UKIP leader said he did not trust the Tory Prime Minister to hold an EU referendum "on free and fair terms".
But he admitted he had been wrong in thinking Labour's Ed Miliband would promise an in/out public vote.
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I'm sure 1/28th of an angel on a pinhead will prove you wrong later.richardDodd said:
It has been a brilliant campaign day for Labour...heheheheh
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The giveaway was the opening coupletSmarmeron said:@nigel4england
"...probably the best father/son song ever, save maybe Springsteen's Independence Day."
I always thought "Independence Day" was about a divorce/breakup ?
Well Papa go to bed now
It's getting late
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Elliott Smith's Twilight is a very sad song, released after he committed suicide.
His song Between the Bars, about his alcoholism, is also brilliant.0 -
There is a really odd divergence in the polls with online firms using panels favouring Labour and phone based polls favouring the Tories. If this persists all the way to election day then one of these groups is going to be very embarrassed, my guess is the online pollsters. That YouGov poll post Paxo was very telling, 25% of their panel had watched all or part of the interviews while ratings showed just 10% of people had watched.0
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The overwhelming majority. Witness the imbecilic comments here on the subject.Nemtynakht said:Anecdote alert! I spoke to someone yesterday who was under the misguided opinion that UKIP would have lots of mps in the next parliament because they are on about 15% in the polls and I had to explain. It will probably be 5 maximum probably 2 or 3. This is someone who is degree educated who does not have a clue how FPTP works. Is this common?
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@calum - Dunno about your last paragraph, but it's hard to argue with your main point. The SNP were given a very good hand and have played it extremely well.
Looking back, I think the key moment was immediately after IndyRef when the SNP didn't allow themselves to become distracted, demoralised or disunited after failing to win the referendum. Since then, the Frenchgate gaffe apart, they haven't put a foot wrong.
SLAB, in contrast, don't seem to have put a foot right.
I was always expecting the SNP to do well in this election, even if they lost IndyRef - but not this well!0 -
Only people with Hodge tendencies still though red kippers were going to be significantTheScreamingEagles said:Nige, what are you doing, all those Red Kippers are now going to go back home
Nigel Farage has said the Tories as the biggest party with enough UKIP MPs to hold David Cameron's "feet to the fire" would be the best post-election outcome for his party.
The UKIP leader has previously expressed indifference towards which of the two main parties gained the largest number of seats, but has now revealed to Sky News he would prefer the Conservatives.
The UKIP leader said he did not trust the Tory Prime Minister to hold an EU referendum "on free and fair terms".
But he admitted he had been wrong in thinking Labour's Ed Miliband would promise an in/out public vote.
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Have a feeling the R&S Ashcroft will be bad for UKIP.. 2.62 to back on the fair and biggest price matched is 2.6...0
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He must look in the bathroom mirror some mornings, and think 'Yep, messed it up big time'.TheScreamingEagles said:
But he admitted he had been wrong in thinking Labour's Ed Miliband would promise an in/out public vote.
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I tweeted that to you a few months agoPlato said:The alternative McVities advert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxXZ_uEVr9cAnorak said:
They're going to need six dead kittens on a skewer (sorry, Plato) to stop the SNP meme.Tissue_Price said:
If you're having an argument that you can't win, change the subject loudly by "throwing a dead cat on to the table". Suddenly everyone's talking about the dead cat.Carnyx said:
This expired feline on the table expression - what does it mean, please? It seems to be used a lot today.SMukesh said:The real election issues is HSBC threatening to pull out of the UK.has the potential to shift CON-LAB votes.no wonder Crosby throwing another dead cat onto the table.
see e.g. Fallon intervention on Ed after non-doms; Ed's speech today after SNP meme
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Or not - cricinfo correcting themselves:Anorak said:
- Where does Joe Root reaching the 2,000 runs in Test cricket stack up matches-wise?
- Second quickest for England behind AN Cook
- But in terms of innings Cook reached his 2000 in 52 innings and his 28th Test. This is Root's 43rd innings and only his 24th test so surely Root is quicker to 2,000 Test runs?
- Er, yes. Cook is only quicker in number of days to reach 2,000 Test runs.
- Where does Joe Root reaching the 2,000 runs in Test cricket stack up matches-wise, then?
- Actually 8th fastest for England in terms of innings, his 43rd.
So now you know.0 -
There'll probably be a Survation R&S along to correct that!isam said:Have a feeling the R&S Ashcroft will be bad for UKIP.. 2.62 to back on the fair and biggest price matched is 2.6...
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Thnx for the recommend
Have you tried The White Buffalo and Darlin' What Have I Done? He features on Sons of Anarchy and excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48dQMECiv48Fenster said:Elliott Smith's Twilight is a very sad song, released after he committed suicide.
His song Between the Bars, about his alcoholism, is also brilliant.0
