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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,611
    Pulpstar said:

    Apparently Chris Martin (Coldplay) was the chief choreographer for the show

    Viva la Dweeba
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,490
    Taz said:

    ...

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    I suspect it is true, but the difficulty predates this Government. My anecdote is my son graduated with a 2:1 in Computer Programming in 2023. He's been working 12 hour shifts (including night shifts) at Sony. Young people may be lazy but I have never in my life never had to start work at 6.20am and alternative weeks finish at 6.20 am.

    But your USP is that economic turmoil is entirely the work of this government and of course you could be right. Crack on.
    What I am seeing is that the IT employment market is broken - skilled people can't get jobs and the employers can't find skilled people.

    Everywhere I know (Finance IT) is short staffed.
    Seems, on the face of it, a simple solution.

    So what is the issue ? Wrong skill set or jobs not where people are or the recruitment is flawed.
    Recruitment consultants are both drowning in and creating slop - fake candidates and jobs abound.

    The companies don’t help by trying all kinds of weirding testing methods to try and beat AI.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,680
    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,276

    Scott_xP said:

    @MichaelLCrick

    Maidstone & Malling Conservative MP Helen Grant says she will stand down at next election - first MP of any party in this parliament to announce their retirement.

    Took over Ann Widdecombe seat.
    Helen Grant will be collecting her state pension by a 2029 election, and is already about the same age as Ann Widdecombe when she retired from the Commons.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,519
    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    'Crap' I think was his considered opinion.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,693
    carnforth said:

    Romesh, the BBC has made you rich, sweetie.

    I wasn't expecting that old nonsense either. We paid for that!
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,917

    How is Ronaldino allowed in the US, he is a committed felon on numerous serious counts.

    I assume because the Emperor of the United States Donald Trump let him in (Like Tommy Robinson).
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999
    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    I thought he said it was crap first . I thought kudos !
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,472
    edited July 19
    I wonder how many new tv licence signs-up they got from the constant "you need a tv licence" before the start of every second half. I will go on the under 1.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,598
    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    I'm with him. Added nothing, detracted quite a lot.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 6,157
    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    Crap I think was the one word summary.

    Best punditry of the whole WC.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,693

    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    I thought he said it was crap first . I thought kudos !
    First bit of Rooney summarising that I have agreed with.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578
    Ratters said:

    Ugh, Burnham is going to be an absolute disaster as PM.

    [Burnham] does not plan, for example, to wear a shirt and tie when he becomes prime minister on Monday — except in the chamber or for exceptional events.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/how-andy-burnham-will-start-digital-id-axed-cabinet-post-for-ai-g8vr2d89s

    He's going to be a bigger scruff than Jeremy Corbyn.

    Ties are a great example of an item of clothing that, if they weren't so ingrained into society, everyone would think bizarre and never consider inventing.

    The sooner they are banished into the history books the better.
    I am a tie fan. I wouldn't wear a suit without.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,472
    edited July 19
    CatMan said:

    How is Ronaldino allowed in the US, he is a committed felon on numerous serious counts.

    I assume because the Emperor of the United States Donald Trump let him in (Like Tommy Robinson).
    How Robinson gets in, I have no idea. Regardless of what the Federal government might say, the TSA agents are absolutle fuckers and law unto themselves if there is anything not above board or they just don't like the cut of your jib.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,680
    CatMan said:

    How is Ronaldino allowed in the US, he is a committed felon on numerous serious counts.

    I assume because the Emperor of the United States Donald Trump let him in (Like Tommy Robinson).
    Gift from one convicted felon to another
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843
    Ratters said:

    Ugh, Burnham is going to be an absolute disaster as PM.

    [Burnham] does not plan, for example, to wear a shirt and tie when he becomes prime minister on Monday — except in the chamber or for exceptional events.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/how-andy-burnham-will-start-digital-id-axed-cabinet-post-for-ai-g8vr2d89s

    He's going to be a bigger scruff than Jeremy Corbyn.

    Ties are a great example of an item of clothing that, if they weren't so ingrained into society, everyone would think bizarre and never consider inventing.

    The sooner they are banished into the history books the better.
    No, just no.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,472
    £800k on Rooney, and Joe Hart is infinitely better and probably doing the gig for a twirl and a can of coke.
  • UnpopularUnpopular Posts: 1,008

    SandraMc said:

    Ugh, Burnham is going to be an absolute disaster as PM.

    [Burnham] does not plan, for example, to wear a shirt and tie when he becomes prime minister on Monday — except in the chamber or for exceptional events.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/how-andy-burnham-will-start-digital-id-axed-cabinet-post-for-ai-g8vr2d89s

    He's going to be a bigger scruff than Jeremy Corbyn.

    Good! Ties are the clothes of the devil.
    The three football pundits on the BBC are wearing ties and look smart. Burnham makes Rooney look classy.
    If he does not respect the office of PM by dressing accordingly how does he expect others to ?
    The country has gone to the dogs ever since politicians stopped wearing morning suits.

    If I ever became PM i would insist on morning suits for all male ministers.
    And how would you go about becoming PM?
    At the current rate of attrition, I presume he'll just wait his turn like the rest of us?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,561
    Tragic . Madonna is beginning to look like Jackie Stallone !
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,866

    They've got the muppets but no sign of Statler and Waldorf in the stand saying this is the worst show they have ever seen.


    This show isn't half bad.

    No, it's all bad !!
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999

    HYUFD said:

    Wayne Rooney says half time show was too flat

    Crap I think was the one word summary.

    Best punditry of the whole WC.
    He should have covered his mouth to get a big laugh imho
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,598
    MelonB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Apparently Chris Martin (Coldplay) was the chief choreographer for the show

    Nobody said it was easy.
    I wrote a song for you
    And all the things you do
    And it was called "Yellow"
    So then I took my turn
    Oh, what a thing to have done
    And it was all yellow
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843

    I wonder how many new tv licence signs-up they got from the constant "you need a tv licence" before the start of every second half. I will go on the under 1.

    I did read somewhere it is relatively high.

    Apparently there's an entire generation who don't realise they need to pay the TV Licence.

    Kids these days...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,905
    Ratters said:

    Ugh, Burnham is going to be an absolute disaster as PM.

    [Burnham] does not plan, for example, to wear a shirt and tie when he becomes prime minister on Monday — except in the chamber or for exceptional events.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/how-andy-burnham-will-start-digital-id-axed-cabinet-post-for-ai-g8vr2d89s

    He's going to be a bigger scruff than Jeremy Corbyn.

    Ties are a great example of an item of clothing that, if they weren't so ingrained into society, everyone would think bizarre and never consider inventing.

    The sooner they are banished into the history books the better.
    I officiate at Uni graduation - I'm officially the University Marshal.* Male students are expected to wear business attire I.e. suit and tie etc. But arguably business attire has changed. Politicos have gone tieless on occasion and no one died. We allowed people to opt out of jackets this week as it was hot (although no more so than many other years). Would society collapse if ties were quietly forgotten?

    And that's before the double standards of allowing women to wear lightweight dresses while the men suffer.

    * Really. I have a badge to prove.**

    ** Ok the badge is a joke one, but I really am the University Marshal.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,353

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    So far the half time show of Madonna, the Muppets and BTS and now Justin Bieber has been more interesting and engaging than the first half of the actual match

    God no.

    Bring back Pavarotti.
    If the Big O can tour as a Hologram why not Pavarotti
    Anything would be better than this.

    I know it is all a circus but I can't imagine the players are enjoying the long break.

    Please let this not set a precedent

    Though I bet Madonna couldn't do it on a wet night in Stoke.
    Is Madonna still able to make Stoke wet?
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999

    I wonder how many new tv licence signs-up they got from the constant "you need a tv licence" before the start of every second half. I will go on the under 1.

    I did read somewhere it is relatively high.

    Apparently there's an entire generation who don't realise they need to pay the TV Licence.

    Kids these days...
    There is a whole generation of bbc staff who think they don’t need to earn it
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843
    Sir Alf Ramsey was right, the Argentinians are animals.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    So far the half time show of Madonna, the Muppets and BTS and now Justin Bieber has been more interesting and engaging than the first half of the actual match

    God no.

    Bring back Pavarotti.
    If the Big O can tour as a Hologram why not Pavarotti
    Anything would be better than this.

    I know it is all a circus but I can't imagine the players are enjoying the long break.

    Please let this not set a precedent

    Though I bet Madonna couldn't do it on a wet night in Stoke.
    Is Madonna still able to make Stoke wet?
    I know she is old, but no reason to believe she is incontinent...
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,353
    DavidL said:

    MelonB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Apparently Chris Martin (Coldplay) was the chief choreographer for the show

    Nobody said it was easy.
    I wrote a song for you
    And all the things you do
    And it was called "Yellow"
    So then I took my turn
    Oh, what a thing to have done
    And it was all yellow
    Or, for Trump,

    wrote a song for you
    And all the things you do
    And it was called "Orange”
    So then I took my turn
    Oh, what a thing to have done
    And it was all orange
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,276

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    Sounds like bullshit. Also we are just at the end of the academic cycle, many students do take a bit of time to gain the right job. At Bath we have large numbers of computer based courses and have extremely good employment after 15 months.
    Whether the Exeter stats refer to employment in computing or jobs generally...

    Posted here in January:-

    Computer science used to be a golden ticket to a lucrative career. Now graduates can’t get a job
    Tech students find even a first-class degree can’t secure an entry-level role

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/schools-universities/computer-science-graduates-cant-get-job/
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,131

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,705

    Sir Alf Ramsey was right, the Argentinians are animals.

    Do they do this to each other in their national league?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 5,019
    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843
    carnforth said:

    Sir Alf Ramsey was right, the Argentinians are animals.

    Do they do this to each other in their national league?
    Yah, it's Diego Simeone/Mikel Arteta levels of haramball and shithousery.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,968

    They've got the muppets but no sign of Statler and Waldorf in the stand saying this is the worst show they have ever seen.


    Trump and Infantino?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578
    carnforth said:

    Sir Alf Ramsey was right, the Argentinians are animals.

    Do they do this to each other in their national league?
    Only one of the Argentines plays in their own league, most play in England, followed by Spain...
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,444
    Pulpstar said:

    Apparently Chris Martin (Coldplay) was the chief choreographer for the show

    They normally know how to put on a show. That was shite.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578

    Watching the final, and comparing it with last night’s match, last night should be awarded final status, and this borefest relegated to 3rd place final.

    Finals are often very cagey and cautious, at least until one team scores.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,917

    I wonder how many new tv licence signs-up they got from the constant "you need a tv licence" before the start of every second half. I will go on the under 1.

    I did read somewhere it is relatively high.

    Apparently there's an entire generation who don't realise they need to pay the TV Licence.

    Kids these days...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20yjjm7n87o

    "Asked how many people had used a QR code shown on screens during the World Cup to buy a TV licence, Brittin said he "can't give you the precise numbers", but there has "been a lift in licence fee payment" during the tournament."
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578
    dixiedean said:

    They've got the muppets but no sign of Statler and Waldorf in the stand saying this is the worst show they have ever seen.


    Trump and Infantino?
    Is Trump asleep yet?
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 1,076
    Foxy said:

    carnforth said:

    Sir Alf Ramsey was right, the Argentinians are animals.

    Do they do this to each other in their national league?
    Only one of the Argentines plays in their own league, most play in England, followed by Spain...
    See Simone at Athletico Madrid for where you see this in domestic football
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,917

    CatMan said:

    How is Ronaldino allowed in the US, he is a committed felon on numerous serious counts.

    I assume because the Emperor of the United States Donald Trump let him in (Like Tommy Robinson).
    How Robinson gets in, I have no idea. Regardless of what the Federal government might say, the TSA agents are absolutle fuckers and law unto themselves if there is anything not above board or they just don't like the cut of your jib.
    I'm sure you're right, but a TSA agent isn't going to go against the explicit instructions of Donald Trump.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,353
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    They've got the muppets but no sign of Statler and Waldorf in the stand saying this is the worst show they have ever seen.


    Trump and Infantino?
    Is Trump asleep yet?
    If he is he won’t be the only one.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,598

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843
    CatMan said:

    CatMan said:

    How is Ronaldino allowed in the US, he is a committed felon on numerous serious counts.

    I assume because the Emperor of the United States Donald Trump let him in (Like Tommy Robinson).
    How Robinson gets in, I have no idea. Regardless of what the Federal government might say, the TSA agents are absolutle fuckers and law unto themselves if there is anything not above board or they just don't like the cut of your jib.
    I'm sure you're right, but a TSA agent isn't going to go against the explicit instructions of Donald Trump.
    Pro tip.

    When the TSA agent asks you 'Do you have any weapons?'

    do not reply with 'Why, what do you need?'
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,968

    DavidL said:

    MelonB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Apparently Chris Martin (Coldplay) was the chief choreographer for the show

    Nobody said it was easy.
    I wrote a song for you
    And all the things you do
    And it was called "Yellow"
    So then I took my turn
    Oh, what a thing to have done
    And it was all yellow
    Or, for Trump,

    wrote a song for you
    And all the things you do
    And it was called "Orange”
    So then I took my turn
    Oh, what a thing to have done
    And it was all orange
    Your skin. Oh yeah your skin and bone.
    Ooh Turn in to something blubbery
    Your face. Somewhat rubbery.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,444

    CatMan said:

    CatMan said:

    How is Ronaldino allowed in the US, he is a committed felon on numerous serious counts.

    I assume because the Emperor of the United States Donald Trump let him in (Like Tommy Robinson).
    How Robinson gets in, I have no idea. Regardless of what the Federal government might say, the TSA agents are absolutle fuckers and law unto themselves if there is anything not above board or they just don't like the cut of your jib.
    I'm sure you're right, but a TSA agent isn't going to go against the explicit instructions of Donald Trump.
    Pro tip.

    When the TSA agent asks you 'Do you have any weapons?'

    do not reply with 'Why, what do you need?'
    "No, I was planning on getting mine from Walmart".
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,611
    stodge said:

    They've got the muppets but no sign of Statler and Waldorf in the stand saying this is the worst show they have ever seen.


    This show isn't half bad.

    No, it's all bad !!
    Warburton's advert!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843
    Fuck the stewards with their blatant hatred of Sir Lewis Hamilton.


  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    They've got the muppets but no sign of Statler and Waldorf in the stand saying this is the worst show they have ever seen.


    Trump and Infantino?
    Is Trump asleep yet?
    If he is he won’t be the only one.
    Mrs Foxy has turned in. The Muppets were too much.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,422
    edited July 19
    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,276
    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999
    QR codes should be left in cringe work conferences imho where you have to vote for which corporate buzz phrase is the best kpi
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999
    Roll on the 4th play!
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 5,019

    QR codes should be left in cringe work conferences imho where you have to vote for which corporate buzz phrase is the best kpi

    I thought the main purpose of QR codes was to scam people trying to pay in car parks.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 67,264
    I want Argentina to get their arses kicked so hard they actually cry.

    Please God. Please.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578

    I want Argentina to get their arses kicked so hard they actually cry.

    Please God. Please.

    4th quarter is when VARgentina score.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,971
    Foxy said:

    Watching the final, and comparing it with last night’s match, last night should be awarded final status, and this borefest relegated to 3rd place final.

    Finals are often very cagey and cautious, at least until one team scores.
    Do you mean crap ?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Watching the final, and comparing it with last night’s match, last night should be awarded final status, and this borefest relegated to 3rd place final.

    Finals are often very cagey and cautious, at least until one team scores.
    Do you mean crap ?
    Often!
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,131

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578
    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
    A lot of our medical secretaries are being made redundant, replaced by AI.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,971

    Fuck the stewards with their blatant hatred of Sir Lewis Hamilton.


    Yes, that was a bullshit decision, especially on the opening lap.
    Russell himself called it a racing incident.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,685
    Argy-bargy par excellence
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,519
    When are Argentina going to bring Messi on?
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,427
    Foxy said:

    Ratters said:

    Ugh, Burnham is going to be an absolute disaster as PM.

    [Burnham] does not plan, for example, to wear a shirt and tie when he becomes prime minister on Monday — except in the chamber or for exceptional events.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/how-andy-burnham-will-start-digital-id-axed-cabinet-post-for-ai-g8vr2d89s

    He's going to be a bigger scruff than Jeremy Corbyn.

    Ties are a great example of an item of clothing that, if they weren't so ingrained into society, everyone would think bizarre and never consider inventing.

    The sooner they are banished into the history books the better.
    I am a tie fan. I wouldn't wear a suit without.
    If you have a bit of a Dad bod then a well secured tie can hide a bit of a stomach bulge. Not speaking from personal experience of course.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 67,264
    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,843
    Andy Burnham: We’re not in the right place as a country. People can feel that

    On the eve of entering No 10, the prime minister-to-be promises a break with Westminster’s old ways and says he will lead by persuasion, not diktat


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/andy-burnham-prime-minister-interview-labour-mbn0g0w6l
  • eekeek Posts: 34,594

    Andy Burnham: We’re not in the right place as a country. People can feel that

    On the eve of entering No 10, the prime minister-to-be promises a break with Westminster’s old ways and says he will lead by persuasion, not diktat


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/andy-burnham-prime-minister-interview-labour-mbn0g0w6l

    The thing is he can't do any worse than the last 7...
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,685

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.
    But tomorrow never comes ..

  • TazTaz Posts: 29,737
    Off !
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,611
    Fernandez sent off - two yellows!
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999

    Fernandez sent off - two yellows!

    Yessss
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,598
    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.
    But tomorrow never comes ..

    I'm sure Andy has been singing tomorrow belongs to me.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 5,019

    Andy Burnham: We’re not in the right place as a country. People can feel that

    On the eve of entering No 10, the prime minister-to-be promises a break with Westminster’s old ways and says he will lead by persuasion, not diktat


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/andy-burnham-prime-minister-interview-labour-mbn0g0w6l

    What does that even mean?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,519
    Should have been a straight red
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,561
    I have a horrible feeling Argentina are going to win on penalties .
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,131
    Foxy said:

    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
    A lot of our medical secretaries are being made redundant, replaced by AI.
    Jeez. Much though I keep thinking "I'd much rather talk to an AI" when I try and get through to my GP's surgery - I can't imagine how any of the current models could handle the gibberish they have to deal with.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,977
    If it were up to me, if you have a player sent off, you lose a penalty in any shoot-out....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,977
    Time for a worldy....
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,685
    nico67 said:

    I have a horrible feeling Argentina are going to win on penalties .

    They've already won on fouls

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999
    Foxy said:

    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
    A lot of our medical secretaries are being made redundant, replaced by AI.
    Hopefully they can find work on Uk border force
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,611
    EXTRA TIME!!
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,999
    Get ready for the 5th play
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,727
    Another 30 minutes of this crap.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,353

    Foxy said:

    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
    A lot of our medical secretaries are being made redundant, replaced by AI.
    Hopefully they can find work on Uk border force
    One of ours would be a shoo in for ICE.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,858
    More messy than messi
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,685
    Are there in-play markets for the number of yellow/red cards in extra time?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,369
    ohnotnow said:

    Foxy said:

    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
    A lot of our medical secretaries are being made redundant, replaced by AI.
    Jeez. Much though I keep thinking "I'd much rather talk to an AI" when I try and get through to my GP's surgery - I can't imagine how any of the current models could handle the gibberish they have to deal with.
    I dunno. Just repeating 'have you tried 111' isn't beyond AI surely?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,276
    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.

    DavidL said:

    Fishing said:

    DavidL said:

    0-0 AET, Argentina win on penalties, feels like the script.

    A goal for Spain would open things up a bit and force Argentina to at least try to attack.
    So who do patriotic Englishmen want to win tonight?

    Western Falkands or Gibraltar Norte?
    For once I agree with our now former PM. I wish both teams well, especially Spain.
    He is still PM until tomorrow.
    But tomorrow never comes ..

    Tomorrow will see a lot of subtle and modest after-timing on PB as bets on new PM, FS, HS and CoE are settled.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,803
    over 200 minutes of world cup finals held in USA and no goals.

    never again
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,578
    Tres said:

    over 200 minutes of world cup finals held in USA and no goals.

    never again

    Argies yet to have a shot on target.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,490
    ohnotnow said:

    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    I’m told that of the 80 students who graduated at Exeter university in computer science just two have found jobs as Labour tax policies and AI have killed the market. Feel desperate for the grads who have given 3 years of their life and £60K to discover they’re unwanted.

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/2078893948966207507?s=20

    Putting aside his political rant, I would be interested to know if this is really true. Exeter is quite a highly ranked university. And those numbers feel so apocalyptic not to be believed.

    80 responded to the survey and 2 reported having found a job, or 10 responded and 2 reported?

    And department ranking and university ranking are different things.
    I mean we should start with the person tweeting, has known once or twice to get the facts wrong or it could be my mate's son goes there and he says only 2 people he knows have a job (and he doesn't actually attend any lectures and knows f##k all people on the course but not going to admit to his parents he spent 3 years in his room playing FIFA). Universities are pretty hot these days on pestering students about their employment status as they want all the data, but it could be a dodgy survey.
    From someone who did quite a few hiring rounds over the past couple of years - compsci students are a glut.

    Every single one seems to have done the same course and acquired the same skills and been told to write their CV and cover letter the same way. At one point last year I was getting around 80 compsci masters students applying for each post we had open.

    And you couldn't tell them apart. Totally generic "I gave institution N-thousand pounds and now I can say I did django, some jquery and can talk about microservices without really understanding them as that's what my lecturer said".

    Once in a while I get an application from a somewhat self-taught kid who's done an HNC and fiddled about with raspberry pi's and some random tech sh*t and I couldn't hire them quick enough.

    Anecdotally, there are a lot of unemployed graduates doubling down by doing their Masters. The jobs market is perhaps worse than post GFC when a lot of graduates were given offers to start a year from now. Many junior computing jobs have been passed to AI, and even mid-level jobs. As I may have mentioned, the young woman who serves my fish and chips has a degree.
    I've still not come across any sign of the AI stuff affecting hiring. Aside from the fever dreams of middle-management (who are more at risk than the actual junior IT staff). I've seen a few people not having their contracts renewed - but it's been more in the (again) management and product/project management roles and 'technical documentation' side. But 'actual' on-the-ground IT staff still seem to be in demand - junior, mid or senior.
    Where I am, the head of IT has taken the view that AI means every developer has a bunch of assistants. Assistants who are a very inexperienced, but have read a lot.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,858
    edited July 19
    ..
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,611
    Offside against Spain!
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